Re: Interesting Aside

2002-04-28 Thread J.Pietschmann

Rhett Aultman wrote:
 Hear hear!  XSLT and XSL-FO have been, in my line of work, the killer apps of XML.

Exactly. Half a year ago I started to use XML+XSLT+FOP for
a variety of formal letters, after I found it too hard to
get Word auotmated for simple tasks. Surprisingly, I'm
faster to type XML (using Emacs+PSGML) then to fiddle with
the various Word positioning and paper format stuff (there's
*always* something wrong). Paper and envelope measurements
(unscrupolously lifted from
   http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html)
are stored in a separate XML file, together with folding
marks, address placement boxes and sensible margin settings,
and are selected via an XSLT parameter. Now i can concentrate
on content rather than guessing where Word thinks it should
put addresses, subjects and headers.

J.Pietschmann





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RE: Interesting Aside

2002-04-25 Thread Alistair Hopkins
Title: Interesting Aside



Fop 
has also provided the 'icing on the cake' in my job which has let me justify a 
lot of ground-up redesign
It is 
also the most popular bit with the admin staff, who no longer handtype invoices 
:-)

Alistair

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  Hear hear! XSLT and XSL-FO have been, in my line of work, the 
  "killer apps" of XML. Both have been invaluable to me in the management 
  of document formats, and at two separate jobs now, each of them has eventually 
  given me a "niche"- XSLT in maintaining documents in different "flat text" 
  formats and XSL-FO in "on paper" formats.
  
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Interesting Aside

2002-04-24 Thread Arved Sandstrom

I thought this was rather interesting. There is an article on XML.COM
entitled Government and Finance Industry Urge Caution on XML
(http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/04/24/gaonacha.html). Lest we start thinking
of XSL as a second-best W3C Recommendation that is viewed slightly askance
by many in the XML community (which I think it is :-)), consider the fact
that the US government, in the report cited in the article, clearly mentions
XSL 1.0 in its discussion of core XML standards (pages 18  34 in the PDF
document).

I think this is encouraging. Probably for all developers _and_ users. A lot
of the other XML technologies out there are getting the limelight, but when
it comes right down to it XSL-FO is a solid spec for a solid requirement -
producing good-looking paper from XML. Let the other people have fun with
Web Services and RDF and schemas - I am perfectly happy with a relatively
stable spec that _definitely_ has a strong business case. :-)

If you read the report, incidentally, the GAO is not urging caution with
respect to XML, per se - it has to do with how the technology is being
adopted.

Regards,
AHS
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Arved Sandstrom
Sr Software Developer
Platform Products Group
Halifax RD Office
Hummingbird Ltd


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RE: Interesting Aside

2002-04-24 Thread Rhett Aultman

Hear hear!  XSLT and XSL-FO have been, in my line of work, the killer apps of XML.  
Both have been invaluable to me in the management of document formats, and at two 
separate jobs now, each of them has eventually given me a niche- XSLT in maintaining 
documents in different flat text formats and XSL-FO in on paper formats.

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I thought this was rather interesting. There is an article on XML.COM
entitled Government and Finance Industry Urge Caution on XML
(http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/04/24/gaonacha.html). Lest we start thinking
of XSL as a second-best W3C Recommendation that is viewed slightly askance
by many in the XML community (which I think it is :-)), consider the fact
that the US government, in the report cited in the article, clearly mentions
XSL 1.0 in its discussion of core XML standards (pages 18  34 in the PDF
document).

I think this is encouraging. Probably for all developers _and_ users. A lot
of the other XML technologies out there are getting the limelight, but when
it comes right down to it XSL-FO is a solid spec for a solid requirement -
producing good-looking paper from XML. Let the other people have fun with
Web Services and RDF and schemas - I am perfectly happy with a relatively
stable spec that _definitely_ has a strong business case. :-)

If you read the report, incidentally, the GAO is not urging caution with
respect to XML, per se - it has to do with how the technology is being
adopted.

Regards,
AHS
__
Arved Sandstrom
Sr Software Developer
Platform Products Group
Halifax RD Office
Hummingbird Ltd


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