Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove ant.jar and build.bat/sh

2003-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Following a problem on fop-user I'd like to propose the removal of ant.jar and the build.bar/sh pair. I've heard that best practice is not to bundle Ant with a project, though I can't point you to a web page. It's reasonable to expect that everybody who wants to compile a Jav

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove ant.jar and build.bat/sh

2003-12-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I can do that but someone will have to test the unix script for me. On 11.12.2003 10:33:34 Peter B. West wrote: > Removing ant, fair enough, but why the build scripts? Shouldn't they be > extended a little to check for the presence of an ant installation and > make appropriate noises if one isn

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove ant.jar and build.bat/sh

2003-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias Maerki wrote: I can do that but someone will have to test the unix script for me. On 11.12.2003 10:33:34 Peter B. West wrote: Removing ant, fair enough, but why the build scripts? Shouldn't they be extended a little to check for the presence of an ant installation and make appropriate

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove ant.jar and build.bat/sh

2003-12-11 Thread Glen Mazza
I disagree on this point, if we're removing ant.jar, I don't see a need for continuing to maintain a build.sh and build.bat. Given that they must install Ant, it isn't too traumatic to next navigate to the fop working directory and type "ant" to make the build. (I'm not being sarcastic--the way

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove ant.jar and build.bat/sh

2003-12-11 Thread J.Pietschmann
Glen Mazza wrote: I disagree on this point, if we're removing ant.jar, I don't see a need for continuing to maintain a build.sh and build.bat. Given that they must install Ant, it isn't too traumatic to next navigate to the fop working directory and type "ant" to make the build. (I'm not being

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove ant.jar and build.bat/sh

2003-12-11 Thread Clay Leeds
I don't think ant should be removed from the maintenance branch. Granted, users of HEAD should be adept enough to install and configure ANT, but I think it is more important to make at least the "maintenance" branch of FOP easy to use, than it is to encourage them to install and configure ant.

RE: [PROPOSAL] Remove ant.jar and build.bat/sh

2003-12-11 Thread Victor Mote
Peter B. West wrote: > Removing ant, fair enough, but why the build scripts? Shouldn't they be > extended a little to check for the presence of an ant installation and > make appropriate noises if one isn't found? I agree. Victor Mote

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove ant.jar and build.bat/sh

2003-12-11 Thread Michael Reiche
On tor, 2003-12-11 at 16:42, Clay Leeds wrote: > I don't think ant should be removed from the maintenance branch. > Granted, users of HEAD should be adept enough to install and configure > ANT, but I think it is more important to make at least the > "maintenance" branch of FOP easy to use, than

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove ant.jar and build.bat/sh

2003-12-11 Thread Glen Mazza
--- Clay Leeds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Web Maestro Clay > > p.s. I guess this means I get to add ant to my list > of tools in my > toolbox... :-) > Yes, highly transportable skills in CVS and Ant may be the two biggest up-front goodies you get by working on FOP. Instructions: 1.) Downl

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove ant.jar and build.bat/sh

2003-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
J.Pietschmann wrote: Hmhm. The unix version (build.sh) added *all* jars in the lib directory to the classpath, which made the "drop into lib and call build.dh" much easier. If this has to be done in build.xml, there's trouble ahead with jars containing release identifiers and such ugly stuff. Well,