RE: line layout commit

2002-04-29 Thread Rhett Aultman
l 26, 2002 9:19 PM To: fop-dev Subject: Re: line layout commit K, K, A and other developers, Regular chat sessions would probably have been useful here, and I think that they might still be useful. Probably every interested party but me is in the time zone spanned by Keiron and Arved. Anyone

Re: line layout commit

2002-04-29 Thread Keiron Liddle
I agree. That's why I want to get through this stage so that it is possible to concentrate on smaller self contained parts. For now I think these are the parts: - come up with our "best" line layout manager process - create a block/pagination process - document possible difficult cases, this wi

Re: line layout commit (coments on Keiron's commit)

2002-04-29 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Karen, Its seems that there are gotcha's no matter what direction we take. I will try to present the reasons behind the approach I am taking. I welcome your input and I will look at the code to see how your code works. It seems we need a set of "tough cases" that we need to be able to handle

Re: line layout commit

2002-04-28 Thread Peter B. West
Arved, See comments below. Arved Sandstrom wrote: >1. I can see a place for structured (that is, planned) communication: >conference calls, scheduled meetings on a system like Peter describes, use >of something like MSN Messenger, setting up an IRC channel and everyone >getting together there.

Re: line layout commit

2002-04-28 Thread J.Pietschmann
Arved Sandstrom wrote: > What we lack is ownership. We could even combine this > with BugZilla ownership, possibly. Creating an assigned bugzilla entry (ENH) works for other projects. I still think it's not quite sufficient for broad-scoped changes like the current redesign, but it might work

Re: line layout commit (coments on Keiron's commit)

2002-04-28 Thread Karen Lease
Hi Keiron, Here are a few comments on your new layoutmgr stuff (which is definitely more advanced than mine in most ways) : 1. I can't figure out how/where you manage space-start, space-end, border, padding, background etc (ie, any non-inherited properties) for non leaf node inline FO, ie: fo:in

Re: line layout commit (part 2)

2002-04-28 Thread Karen Lease
Hi Foppers, I've gone ahead and committed the major part of the Break Possibility approach to layout managers which I have developped. It leaves Keiron's new code intact (except for a couple of changes I needed to make to be able to subclass his LineLayoutManager). It's also not activated; to do

Re: line layout commit

2002-04-28 Thread Karen Lease
you are the POC for work being done > in that package. You are the arbiter of disputes. We could even combine this > with BugZilla ownership, possibly. > > Comments? If folks are agreed or at least not against it I can set up what > needs to be setup. > > Arved > > >

RE: line layout commit

2002-04-27 Thread Arved Sandstrom
Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Karen Lease > Sent: April 27, 2002 12:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: line layout commit > [ SNIP ] > > At any rate, I'm certainly not averse to having some more structured > ki

Re: line layout commit

2002-04-27 Thread Karen Lease
Hi Peter, Well, it certainly is due to some kind of communication problem, and I think it's largely my "fault" if fault there is. I have a really hard time committing havf-finished bits of code, so no one's heard a peep from me in a while. And I think the long BreakPoss design doc I submitted in

Re: line layout commit

2002-04-26 Thread Peter B. West
K, K, A and other developers, Regular chat sessions would probably have been useful here, and I think that they might still be useful. Probably every interested party but me is in the time zone spanned by Keiron and Arved. Anyone in the US? It should be possible for you to arrange some times

Re: line layout commit

2002-04-26 Thread Karen Lease
Hi Keiron, On the one hand, I'm happy to see new work in the LayoutManagers. On the other hand, it turns out, I have been plugging (unfortunately really slowly) away at the Break Possibility ideas I mentioned a while back and just this very evening I had gotten the Line and Text LayoutManagers t

RE: line layout commit

2002-04-26 Thread Arved Sandstrom
Very cool. I will try to pry away from my other project and also doing my income taxes and put in some quality time checking this out this weekend. Sounds like we are basically at the point where a bunch of us can usefully pitch in. :-) As far as the Unicode bidi algorithm is concerned, yup, no k