RE: RE : Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed)
Hi there, Sorry, My goal is to post these files, however there are some work I have to do on them in order to make them look nice and clean, I really want to do that before anyone looks at them, to really get them representative, but I have had a lot of other work lately, so I havent been able to finish them up yet. For us it has really been what the transform produces that was critical. I never took the time to develop nice and efficient XSLT transforms. One example is the graphs in those PDFs, I generate those graphs with an intermediate tool that I wrote which generates SVG graphs from data and layout input in XML format. This SVG graphs is first generated as separate files, then copied into the final FO document at FO compile time, using XSLT document() function. This is a rather odd approach which I do not know how I can best present to the FOP users/developers who might be interested in seeing the solution, I am therefore thinking of moving these solutions to EXSLT instead, and use _javascript_ to compute layout and render the graph to SVG. XSLT itself is unfortunately not enough to generate these graphs. I was glad to see there where actually FOP people that was a bit interested in the work I have done with FOP, now i do not want to disappoint people by sending these XSLT transforms that is just not clean enough as of today. Regards, Dennis JD Myrén Developer Oslo Kodebureau Tel: (+47) 98 00 11 92 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.oslokb.no From: David Gagnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24. februar 2005 22:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE : Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed) Hi all, I was looking for a good example as well those pdf are impressive. I was wondering if the .fo and .xml regarding those examples have been posted somewhere? I looked into the bug database and haven`t found them are they available? Thanks for your help!! /David -Message d'origine- De: Dennis Myrén [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé: February 9, 2005 03:48 À: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet: RE: Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed) Unfortunately, I get an error when I try to view those links: HTTP Error 403.6 - Forbidden: IP address of the client has been rejected. Internet Information Services (IIS) That was really awkward, and not what I intended. The URLs should work by now. Sorry about that. Here they are again: http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample1.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample2.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample3.pdf BTW I have a couple of questions: - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post this example PDF? - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post the input files (XSL-FO, XML, XSLT, etc.)? Of course you are free to do that. Perhaps after you've participated in the FOP community for some time, and your name becomes familiar to us (and hopefully made some contributions to the code! :-p) you may be invited to become a committer for Apache FOP! I will do my best to get there! Maybe I could implement support for CMYK and Spot colors to get started, if this is of interest to you. Wouldnt this be cool?: fo:block color=spot(PANTONE 1205 C, 1.0)Hello FOP/fo:block Regards, Dennis JD Myrén Developer Oslo Kodebureau Tel: (+47) 98 00 11 92 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.oslokb.no From: The Web Maestro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8. februar 2005 17:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed) Dennis, On Feb 8, 2005, at 7:54 AM, Dennis Myrén wrote: I should say a few words as well. I work as a computer programmer for a small software firm. We have thought for a long time that it is time to give something back to FOP, in form of development contribution. I have been programming PDF components for a long time and know the PDF file format, as well as XSL-FO. Therefore, i think i might be able to help out. However, we havent really taken the time for that. Now i think we can do that, so i hereby also let you know that i am interested in starting to contribute. Thanks for the kind words, and we look forward to receiving PATCHes from you. Here's a link to help you get started. http://xml.apache.org/fop/dev/#patches 3 examples of documents that we have generated(targeting mass printing for broschure production) you can find here: http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample1.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample2.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample3.pdf BTW I have a couple of questions: - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post this example PDF? - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post the input files (XSL-FO, XML, XSLT, etc
Re: RE : Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed)
On Feb 25, 2005, at 12:59 AM, Dennis Myrn wrote: x-tad-biggerHi there,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSorry,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerMy goal is to post these files, however there are some work I have to do on them in order to make them look nice and clean,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI really want to do that before anyone looks at them, to really get them representative, but I have had a lot of other work lately,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerso I havent been able to finish them up yet./x-tad-bigger I would say, 'take your time! While we'd love to have those files, I can understand your wanting to clean them up a bit before you submit them to something 'permanent'! x-tad-biggerFor us it has really been what the transform produces that was critical./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI never took the time to develop nice and efficient XSLT transforms./x-tad-bigger If you get stuck, you could ask for a little help on the Mulberry xsl-list (which you can find on the FOP Resources page[1]... plug! plug!) x-tad-biggerOne example is the graphs in those PDFs, I generate those graphs with an intermediate tool that I wrote which generates SVG graphs/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerfrom data and layout input in XML format. This SVG graphs is first generated as separate files, then copied into the final FO document at/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFO compile time, using XSLT document() function. This is a rather odd approach which I do not know how I can best present to the FOP/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerusers/developers who might be interested in seeing the solution, I am therefore thinking of moving these solutions to EXSLT instead, and/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggeruse javascript to compute layout and render the graph to SVG./x-tad-bigger If the files are in SVG format (and referenced locally), you could just ZIP up all of the files that are required, and post the ZIP archive... That may make the most sense, as the SVG files will be easy to look at and take apart in their own right. x-tad-biggerXSLT itself is unfortunately not enough to generate these graphs./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI was glad to see there where actually FOP people that was a bit interested in the work I have done with FOP,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggernow i do not want to/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerdisappoint people by sending these XSLT transforms that is just not clean enough as of today./x-tad-bigger Like I said, take your time, and if you want some help, either ask here or on the Mulberry XSL-List... Cheers! [1] http://xml.apache.org/fop/resources.html Web Maestro Clay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/> My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
RE : Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed)
Hi all, I was looking for a good example as well those pdf are impressive. I was wondering if the .fo and .xml regarding those examples have been posted somewhere? I looked into the bug database and haven`t found them are they available? Thanks for your help!! /David -Message d'origine- De: Dennis Myrén [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé: February 9, 2005 03:48 À: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet: RE: Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed) Unfortunately, I get an error when I try to view those links: HTTP Error 403.6 - Forbidden: IP address of the client has been rejected. Internet Information Services (IIS) That was really awkward, and not what I intended. The URLs should work by now. Sorry about that. Here they are again: http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample1.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample2.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample3.pdf BTW I have a couple of questions: - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post this example PDF? - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post the input files (XSL-FO, XML, XSLT, etc.)? Of course you are free to do that. Perhaps after you've participated in the FOP community for some time, and your name becomes familiar to us (and hopefully made some contributions to the code! :-p) you may be invited to become a committer for Apache FOP! I will do my best to get there! Maybe I could implement support for CMYK and Spot colors to get started, if this is of interest to you. Wouldnt this be cool?: fo:block color=spot(PANTONE 1205 C, 1.0)Hello FOP/fo:block Regards, Dennis JD Myrén Developer Oslo Kodebureau Tel: (+47) 98 00 11 92 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.oslokb.no From: The Web Maestro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8. februar 2005 17:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed) Dennis, On Feb 8, 2005, at 7:54 AM, Dennis Myrén wrote: I should say a few words as well. I work as a computer programmer for a small software firm. We have thought for a long time that it is time to give something back to FOP, in form of development contribution. I have been programming PDF components for a long time and know the PDF file format, as well as XSL-FO. Therefore, i think i might be able to help out. However, we havent really taken the time for that. Now i think we can do that, so i hereby also let you know that i am interested in starting to contribute. Thanks for the kind words, and we look forward to receiving PATCHes from you. Here's a link to help you get started. http://xml.apache.org/fop/dev/#patches 3 examples of documents that we have generated(targeting mass printing for broschure production) you can find here: http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample1.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample2.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample3.pdf BTW I have a couple of questions: - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post this example PDF? - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post the input files (XSL-FO, XML, XSLT, etc.)? Unfortunately, I get an error when I try to view those links: HTTP Error 403.6 - Forbidden: IP address of the client has been rejected. Internet Information Services (IIS) Perhaps after you've participated in the FOP community for some time, and your name becomes familiar to us (and hopefully made some contributions to the code! :-p) you may be invited to become a committer for Apache FOP! Cheers! Web Maestro Clay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/ My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
RE: Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed)
Hi again and thank you for your response. I will post the files as of our agreement as soon as possible. Just going to take the time to tidy the XSLT transform up and translate comments and such to English. I will let you know as I have posted the files. Regards, Dennis JD Myrén Developer Oslo Kodebureau Tel: (+47) 98 00 11 92 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.oslokb.no From: The Web Maestro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9. februar 2005 17:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed) On Feb 9, 2005, at 12:47 AM, Dennis Myrén wrote: Unfortunately, I get an error when I try to view those links: HTTP Error 403.6 - Forbidden: IP address of the client has been rejected. Internet Information Services (IIS) That was really awkward, and not what I intended. The URLs should work by now. Sorry about that. Here they are again: http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample1.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample2.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample3.pdf I got them, and they downloaded and opened fine on my machine. BTW I have a couple of questions: - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post this example PDF? - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post the input files (XSL-FO, XML, XSLT, etc.)? Of course you are free to do that. Excellent, please do me/us a favor (I hope it's not too much to ask!): 1. ZIP the input files*.xml, *.xsl, *.fo, *.jpg, *.tif, etc. (whatever files used to create these) and Sample1.pdf, Sample2.pdf Sample3.pdf files. 2. Create a new BUG in bugzilla and attach these the ZIP file containing all of the files. Of course, it would help to have the information in there translated to English, since (I suspect) that is the most 'common' language used for FOP development. Perhaps after you've participated in the FOP community for some time, and your name becomes familiar to us (and hopefully made some contributions to the code! :-p) you may be invited to become a committer for Apache FOP! I will do my best to get there! We look forward to 'seeing' you around... Maybe I could implement support for CMYK and Spot colors to get started, if this is of interest to you. Wouldnt this be cool?: fo:block color=spot(PANTONE 1205 C, 1.0)Hello FOP/fo:block That would be cool, and help many, many people! Thanks! Web Maestro Clay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/ My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Re: Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed)
On Feb 10, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Dennis Myrén wrote: x-tad-biggerHi again and thank you for your response./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI will post the files as of our agreement as soon as possible./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerJust going to take the time to tidy the XSLT transform up and translate comments and such to English./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI will let you know as I have posted the files./x-tad-bigger Thanks! That'll be of great help! You shouldn't need to 'tell' us it's posted to bugzilla, as bugzilla automatically alerts us to new 'bugs'... Cheers! Web Maestro Clay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/> My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
RE: Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed)
Unfortunately, I get an error when I try to view those links: HTTP Error 403.6 - Forbidden: IP address of the client has been rejected. Internet Information Services (IIS) That was really awkward, and not what I intended. The URLs should work by now. Sorry about that. Here they are again: http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample1.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample2.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample3.pdf BTW I have a couple of questions: - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post this example PDF? - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post the input files (XSL-FO, XML, XSLT, etc.)? Of course you are free to do that. Perhaps after you've participated in the FOP community for some time, and your name becomes familiar to us (and hopefully made some contributions to the code! :-p) you may be invited to become a committer for Apache FOP! I will do my best to get there! Maybe I could implement support for CMYK and Spot colors to get started, if this is of interest to you. Wouldnt this be cool?: fo:block color=spot(PANTONE 1205 C, 1.0)Hello FOP/fo:block Regards, Dennis JD Myrén Developer Oslo Kodebureau Tel: (+47) 98 00 11 92 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.oslokb.no From: The Web Maestro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8. februar 2005 17:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed) Dennis, On Feb 8, 2005, at 7:54 AM, Dennis Myrén wrote: I should say a few words as well. I work as a computer programmer for a small software firm. We have thought for a long time that it is time to give something back to FOP, in form of development contribution. I have been programming PDF components for a long time and know the PDF file format, as well as XSL-FO. Therefore, i think i might be able to help out. However, we havent really taken the time for that. Now i think we can do that, so i hereby also let you know that i am interested in starting to contribute. Thanks for the kind words, and we look forward to receiving PATCHes from you. Here's a link to help you get started. http://xml.apache.org/fop/dev/#patches 3 examples of documents that we have generated(targeting mass printing for broschure production) you can find here: http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample1.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample2.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample3.pdf BTW I have a couple of questions: - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post this example PDF? - if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post the input files (XSL-FO, XML, XSLT, etc.)? Unfortunately, I get an error when I try to view those links: HTTP Error 403.6 - Forbidden: IP address of the client has been rejected. Internet Information Services (IIS) Perhaps after you've participated in the FOP community for some time, and your name becomes familiar to us (and hopefully made some contributions to the code! :-p) you may be invited to become a committer for Apache FOP! Cheers! Web Maestro Clay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/ My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
Re: Contributing to FOP (Re: representative example needed)
On Feb 9, 2005, at 12:47 AM, Dennis Myrn wrote: >Unfortunately, I get an error when I try to view those links: >HTTP Error 403.6 - Forbidden: IP address of the client has been rejected. >Internet Information Services (IIS) x-tad-biggerThat was really awkward, and not what I intended./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerThe /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger should work by now. Sorry about that./x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerHere they are again:/x-tad-bigger http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample1.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample2.pdf http://dev.oslokb.no:8080/dennis/Sample3.pdf I got them, and they downloaded and opened fine on my machine. >BTW I have a couple of questions: >- if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post this example PDF? >- if we like what we see (I get an error--see below), can we post the input files (XSL-FO, XML, XSLT, etc.)? Of course you are free to do that. Excellent, please do me/us a favor (I hope it's not too much to ask!): 1. ZIP the input files*.xml, *.xsl, *.fo, *.jpg, *.tif, etc. (whatever files used to create these) and Sample1.pdf, Sample2.pdf Sample3.pdf files. 2. Create a new BUG in bugzilla and attach these the ZIP file containing all of the files. Of course, it would help to have the information in there translated to English, since (I suspect) that is the most 'common' language used for FOP development. >Perhaps after you've participated in the FOP community for some time, and your name becomes familiar to us (and hopefully >made some contributions to the code! :-p) you may be invited to become a committer for Apache FOP! I will do my best to get there! We look forward to 'seeing' you around... Maybe I could implement support for CMYK and Spot colors to get started, if this is of interest to you. Wouldnt this be cool?: fo:block color=spot(PANTONE 1205 C, 1.0)>Hello FOP/fo:block> That would be cool, and help many, many people! Thanks! Web Maestro Clay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/> My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
