Re: Re: RTF-Output with FOP 0.93 looks terrible

2007-07-11 Thread leeloo5e79-devel
Hi Vincent,

great :-) But the Stylesheet for generating an OpenOffice- or better 
OpenDocument has not finished at all. That's a pitty :-(
Have you tried to open an OpenDocument-file in Microsoft Word? Most users are 
using word (a terrible application) and want to have a modifiable document 
which can be opened in Microsoft Word. So the only way is RTF at the moment :-(
I have to find another way to make it looks better in word.

Thanks for the link to the docbook2odf-project.
Best Regards,
Kerstin

Vincent Hennebert schrieb:
Hi, 
 
leeloo5e79-devel yahoo de a écrit : 
 Hi Jeremias, 
  
 you are correct: RTF is a terrible format. But seems to be the only way to 
 get a modifiable document.  There are also tools like which convert PDF to 
 Word-Documents. But these tools also had the problem in correct converting 
 PDF. 
 In this case I'm using DocBook to create complex documentations. With the 
 DocBook-Stylesheets I want to generate e.g. HTML, PDF and also an for 
 Microsoft Word applicable Document. 
 
If you want to generate a modifiable format from DocBook you will 
probably have much more success with the docbook2odf [1] or the 
roundtrip part of the DocBook stylesheets. 
 
I haven't looked at either of those. The link below might be 
interesting. The DocBook stylesheets allow to convert DocBook to WordML 
(and also ODF now, I believe) and vice-versa. Have a look at the 
docbook-apps@ archives and the DocBook website. 
 
Anyway, if I had to produce modifiable documents from DocBook sources I 
would certainly invest my time on such solutions rather than dealing 
with RTF. 
 
[1] http://open.comsultia.com/docbook2odf/ 
 
HTH, 
Vincent 

   
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Re: Re: RTF-Output with FOP 0.93 looks terrible

2007-07-10 Thread Kerstin Buchholz
Hi Adrian,

sorry for my late reply. Seems my email-provider are sorting out some messages. 
I just find the list on nabbles.com.

I used Microsoft Word to display the generated RTF-Output. So I assumed 
Microsoft Word would display the RTF in the correct way. But seems it didn't. 
Because of your question, which application I'm using, I just used OpenOffice 
and hey it looks good - relatively ;-)
Page breaks doesn't work.There are no page numbers in the TOC, but links to the 
chapters are fine :-) In every case tables have a width of 3,53cm. But 
shouldn't they display on the whole available width of the page?!

I'm using processing-instructions at my xml file to set e.g. the last page 
number or background-colors. These settings are displayed correctly in the 
PDF-Output, so the FO seems to be correctly. It supposed to be missing features 
for generating RTF with FOP.

Thanks,
Best Regards,
Kerstin


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Hi Kerstin, 
 
Sorry but could you be a little more descriptive of the problem you are  
having?  Providing some FO source examples would be of great help in  
examining any problems you are experiencing with the RTF output.  
Incidentally which RTF viewing application are you using to display/test  
the RTF output? 
 
Cheers, 
 
Adrian. 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I'm using FOP 0.93 to generate e.g. PDF from DocBook-XML with  
 DocBook-XSL. Everything looks fine in PDF. 71 sites are generated in PDF  
 :-))) 
 But the RTF-Output just looks terrible and has about 1900 !!! sites.  
 Seems on every page is one line or one table row printed out. The  
 content (e.g. lines) should be keep together or something else. Is still  
 working on this feature or has i just configure something to make it  
 work better? 
  
 Thanks, 
 Kerstin 
  
  
  
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Re: RTF-Output with FOP 0.93 looks terrible

2007-07-10 Thread leeloo5e79-devel
Hi Jeremias,

you are correct: RTF is a terrible format. But seems to be the only way to get 
a modifiable document.  There are also tools like which convert PDF to 
Word-Documents. But these tools also had the problem in correct converting PDF.
In this case I'm using DocBook to create complex documentations. With the 
DocBook-Stylesheets I want to generate e.g. HTML, PDF and also an for Microsoft 
Word applicable Document. 

Because of Adrian's question of what RTF viewing application I'm using (I used 
Microsoft Word), I used OpenOffice and hey it looks good - relativley. Only 
some XSL-FO-Features are missing (I described them in my answer of Adrians 
answer).

I will create a small DocBook-Document with some XSL-FO-Features which shows 
the occured problems. So maybe we find a solution ;-)

Thanks a lot.
Best Regards,
Kerstin

###
Let me start by stating that RTF is a terrible format to begin with 
(well, that's a personal opinion). Generally, it's not possible to map 
every feature in XSL-FO into RTF. But then, RTF is probably also the 
weakest output format in Apache FOP. I would only recommend RTF output 
for relatively simple business letters where people have to do some 
modifications before they are sent to the client. 
 
I'd be interested in the use case you have to convert DocBook to RTF. 
 
Please note that the RTF output is optimized for Microsoft Word. It will 
definitely look terrible in OpenOffice. 
 
On 28.06.2007 14:04:32 leeloo5e79-devel wrote: 
 I'm using FOP 0.93 to generate e.g. PDF from DocBook-XML with 
 DocBook-XSL. Everything looks fine in PDF. 71 sites are generated in 
 PDF :-)))  
 But the RTF-Output just looks terrible and has about 1900 !!! sites. 
 Seems on every page is one line or one table row printed out. The 
 content (e.g. lines) should be keep together or something else. Is 
 still working on this feature or has i just configure something to make it 
 work better? 
  
 Thanks, 
 Kerstin 
 
 
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Re: RTF-Output with FOP 0.93 looks terrible

2007-07-10 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Hi,

leeloo5e79-devel yahoo de a écrit :
 Hi Jeremias,
 
 you are correct: RTF is a terrible format. But seems to be the only way to 
 get a modifiable document.  There are also tools like which convert PDF to 
 Word-Documents. But these tools also had the problem in correct converting 
 PDF.
 In this case I'm using DocBook to create complex documentations. With the 
 DocBook-Stylesheets I want to generate e.g. HTML, PDF and also an for 
 Microsoft Word applicable Document. 

If you want to generate a modifiable format from DocBook you will
probably have much more success with the docbook2odf [1] or the
roundtrip part of the DocBook stylesheets.

I haven't looked at either of those. The link below might be
interesting. The DocBook stylesheets allow to convert DocBook to WordML
(and also ODF now, I believe) and vice-versa. Have a look at the
docbook-apps@ archives and the DocBook website.

Anyway, if I had to produce modifiable documents from DocBook sources I
would certainly invest my time on such solutions rather than dealing
with RTF.

[1] http://open.comsultia.com/docbook2odf/

HTH,
Vincent



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Re: RTF-Output with FOP 0.93 looks terrible

2007-06-28 Thread Adrian Cumiskey

Hi Kerstin,

Sorry but could you be a little more descriptive of the problem you are 
having?  Providing some FO source examples would be of great help in 
examining any problems you are experiencing with the RTF output. 
Incidentally which RTF viewing application are you using to display/test 
the RTF output?


Cheers,

Adrian.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm using FOP 0.93 to generate e.g. PDF from DocBook-XML with 
DocBook-XSL. Everything looks fine in PDF. 71 sites are generated in PDF 
:-)))
But the RTF-Output just looks terrible and has about 1900 !!! sites. 
Seems on every page is one line or one table row printed out. The 
content (e.g. lines) should be keep together or something else. Is still 
working on this feature or has i just configure something to make it 
work better?


Thanks,
Kerstin



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