Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ?
Thank a lot Alexios. That's work. Still 2 questions... 1/ With Type Transformer, do I select icon 3 - Characters filters or not ? 2/ With my AFP sample file produced by Fop, - Compart Viewer display 'HELLO' correctly (Aladen font) - BTB display nothing - AFPviewer display 'HELLO' incorrectly (in raster Times). Why theses differences ? maybe BTB or AFPviewer are not able to display emebeded outline font ? Thank for your reply. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Alexios Giotis Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 10:44 PM To: Christian Pestel Cc: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Hi Christian, The code page file is indeed required. Attached you will find T1U01253 which I used and corresponds to encoding=cp1253 (modern Greek). I got it along with some other code page files when I asked to convert some TrueType fonts to AFP fonts. As far as I know, the code page files are standard and you will need a different code page for French. If I remember well, the Type 1 font I used did not contain any Greek glyphs, it works because the XSL:FO just prints HELLO. Other ways of getting code page files are: - Directly downloading from a mainframe. - Generating with a commercial tool. - Extracting from the resource group of an AFP file that contains them. You will need a basic understanding of the AFP structure and about 200 lines of Java code. MO:DCA (The Mixed Object Document Content Architecture Reference) [1] will be your friend. Finally, you will need to remove the .OLN extension from CZA585.OLN. HTH, Alexios Giotis [1] http://www.afpcinc.org/publications/categories/publications/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ?
On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Christian Pestel wrote: Thank a lot Alexios. That's work. Still 2 questions... 1/ With Type Transformer, do I select icon 3 - Characters filters or not ? I left the 'character filters' empty but this might not always be correct. For example, when Type Transformer needs to select a subset for creating single byte coded fonts (SBCS), the character filters or the code page could help. 2/ With my AFP sample file produced by Fop, - Compart Viewer display 'HELLO' correctly (Aladen font) - BTB display nothing - AFPviewer display 'HELLO' incorrectly (in raster Times). Why theses differences ? maybe BTB or AFPviewer are not able to display emebeded outline font ? I also noticed this when I created the AFP. My experience is that Compart has the most reliable viewer. I can't give a definite answer without investigating but at the end, it does not worth it. It is a common knowledge and at the same time annoying, that every AFP system, including viewers printers is different, renders differently and has limitations. In a few cases this is due to a not well defined spec (GOCA), in some other cases this is due to the implementations. It's a niche area. The general advise is to try to open the AFP files with all available viewers. If you see what you expect, then it *could* be OK. But unfortunately, you will finally need to print it to ensure it's OK. Keep in mind that depending on your use case and volumes, you might need to do some performance tests too. For example, can a continuous feed printer sustain a speed of 100 meters per minute ? Finally, there are printer specific, commercial tools which you could buy to reliably view the AFP. The idea is that they execute the same code as the printer, an example is OCE TrueProof. I don't think I can help you much more, I wish you good luck :) Alexios Giotis Thank for your reply. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Alexios Giotis Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 10:44 PM To: Christian Pestel Cc: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Hi Christian, The code page file is indeed required. Attached you will find T1U01253 which I used and corresponds to encoding=cp1253 (modern Greek). I got it along with some other code page files when I asked to convert some TrueType fonts to AFP fonts. As far as I know, the code page files are standard and you will need a different code page for French. If I remember well, the Type 1 font I used did not contain any Greek glyphs, it works because the XSL:FO just prints HELLO. Other ways of getting code page files are: - Directly downloading from a mainframe. - Generating with a commercial tool. - Extracting from the resource group of an AFP file that contains them. You will need a basic understanding of the AFP structure and about 200 lines of Java code. MO:DCA (The Mixed Object Document Content Architecture Reference) [1] will be your friend. Finally, you will need to remove the .OLN extension from CZA585.OLN. HTH, Alexios Giotis [1] http://www.afpcinc.org/publications/categories/publications/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ?
Hi Alexios, Thank a lot for the time you spent for me; your explanations are really clear. I try to convert with TypeTransformer 3.3, your Type 1 font (Alanden_.pfb) to an Afp Outline font (CZA585.OLN). I have not selected code page file in Step3-Character Filters. and thus, I have this error during Fop process : GRAVE: The code page for an AFP font cannot be found. Reason: java.io.FileNotFoundException: Resource not found: T1U01253 How to create codepage file T1U01253 ? Is it possible you send me your file ? Thank in advance. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Alexios Giotis Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:18 PM To: fop-users Subject: Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Hi Christian, I tried to execute FOP using the attached input configuration file from Java IDE (embedded, see [1]) but it was throwing an exception because the code page file T1V10500 is missing. I changed the configuration to use another code page file that I had and an AFP file was produced. The font and the codepage were embedded in the AFP file. I used the free afpexplorer to verify this, [2]. Still, I could not open it with any AFP viewer. It seems that there was a problem with the embedded AFP font that IBM Type Transformer created. Additionally raster fonts are quite old and AFP experts recommend the usage of AFP outline fonts. Type Transformer seems to give the option to create AFP outline fonts, only from Type 1 fonts. So, I downloaded the first freely available Type 1 font that google found [3], changed the FOP config to font afp-font type=outline codepage=T1U01253 encoding=cp1253 path=/Users/alex/Workspace/desk/afpVerdanaTest characterset=CZA282 /afp-font font-triplet name=Verdana style=normal weight=normal / font-triplet name=any style=normal weight=normal / /font and created the attached AFP file. The name Verdana is now misleading but I did not want to touch the input XSL:FO. In this AFP file, the outline font is embedded and I can successfully view it with Compart's DocBridge View - I noticed the file name test.Compart.afp in your zip and I guess you might have this viewer. To conclude, TypeTransformer seems to me useful for converting Type 1 fonts to AFP outline fonts. If you have a TTF input file, you may transform it to Type 1 first (e.g. see [4]) and then to AFP outline. Alternatively, you can buy one of the commercial (and expensive) applications (isis-papyrus is one example). In that case, there are some less expensive options like buying an older and unsupported second hand license of such a tool or outsourcing the font conversion to a company or AFP consultant that has a license for such tools. Note that I am not an AFP consultant and I don't own such tools. For me, the Type 1 format is not far away from the AFP outline format and although I have only barely touched this area, it could be an interesting open source project. [1] http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/1.0/embedding.html [2] http://www.compulsivecode.com/Project_AFPexplorer.aspx [3] http://www.sketchpad.net/fonts/alanden-t1.zip [4] http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/ Alexios Giotis On Jun 29, 2012, at 6:18 PM, Alexios Giotis wrote: Hi Christian, Don't worry about the zip attachment, it exists and contains the information needed. If you are sending this directly to my email, then maybe gmail is filtering it. I don't have time to look at this today, but in the past I have successfully created AFP files with embedded both raster outline AFP fonts. IBM type transformer has some limitations and is not working for all TrueType fonts. In the meanwhile, somebody else might have a look. Alexios On Jun 29, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Christian Pestel wrote: Hi Alexios, still pb with Symantec Mail Security detected prohibited content in a message sent from your address I rename it Fo2AFP_Verdana.bat = Fo2AFP_Verdana_CommandFile.txt and C0A484B0 = C0A484B0.txt Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Christian Pestel Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 3:04 PM To: fop-users Subject: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Hi Alexios, may be some pb to send you a zip file with .bat file inside. I rename it Fo2AFP_Verdana_bat.txt Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Christian Pestel Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:40 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Hi Alexios, The file name is correct but this doesn't work. send you the zip file. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Alexios Giotis Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:50 AM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Hi Christian, If the file name is C0A484B0.240, try renaming
Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ?
Hi Christian, If the file name is C0A484B0.240, try renaming this to C0A484B0. If this does not work, post a small, self contained example (XSL:FO, raster font, fop config). Alexios On Jun 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Christian Pestel wrote: Thank you Alexios for your help, I download TypeTransformer [ http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=psd1P4000840 ] on my Windows7 workstation, no problem to install and run it. I try to create Verdana Afp font from Verdana windows TTF First, I want to select Windows font directory to browse ttf files. TypeTransformer exclude Windows\Fonts directory from directories selection !? I copy the 4 Verdana ttf files in another directory , and thats's work. Second, I select in TypeTransformer icon 1 - TypeFaces icon 2 - Point sizes icon 3 - Characters filters Button codepage : nothing to select. Button character list : I select LATIN.CLS icon 4 - Start job Some character are not I selected YES 28/06/2012 16:17:59 DUV0018: Transformation of job JOB1 has started. 28/06/2012 16:17:59 DUV0001: Transformation of font Verdana (font character set C0A484B0, point size 12.0, resolution 240) has started. 28/06/2012 16:17:59 DUV0015: Transformation of font character set C0A484B0 has ended. 28/06/2012 16:17:59 DUV0458: The record length for this character set is: 10536. 28/06/2012 16:17:59 DUV0122: Transformation of 122 job JOB1 has successfully completed. I obtain a raster Afp file C0A484B0.240 (46 Ko) for Verdana raster Normal 12 pt In my fop.conf USERCONFIG.xml I add : !-- Verdana Normal (raster) -- font afp-font type=raster codepage=T1V10500 encoding=Cp500 base-uri=D:/__Projets/NewProjets/BdocSuite_510/FopAFP/VerdanaFont/AfpFont afp-raster-font size=12 characterset=C0A484B0 / /afp-font font-triplet name=Verdana style=normal weight=normal/ /font I run fop an I obtain the same Afp file without embeded font. What's wrong ? Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Alexios Giotis Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 3:16 PM To: Christian Pestel Cc: fop-users Subject: Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Try to use the free IBM Type Transformer for Windows [1] to transform a TrueType font to an AFP raster or outline font. You might find some other AFP tools at [2]. [1] http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=psd1P4000840 [2] http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/AFPResources Alexios Giotis On Jun 28, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Christian Pestel wrote: Hi, I would like to embed Verdana font in my AFP file. How to do that ? I have Windows Verdana TrueType font installed on my workstation. Is there a Fop tool to convert Verdana TrueType to Verdana AFP raster or outline ? or do you know an openSource converter ? or do I need to sell AFP Verdana raster font or AFP Verdana outline font from IBM or Terrapin or else ? Thank for your help. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org C0A484B0JOB1.sumUSERCONFIG.XMLtestVerdana.fotestVerdana.afp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ?
Hi Christian, Don't worry about the zip attachment, it exists and contains the information needed. If you are sending this directly to my email, then maybe gmail is filtering it. I don't have time to look at this today, but in the past I have successfully created AFP files with embedded both raster outline AFP fonts. IBM type transformer has some limitations and is not working for all TrueType fonts. In the meanwhile, somebody else might have a look. Alexios On Jun 29, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Christian Pestel wrote: Hi Alexios, still pb with Symantec Mail Security detected prohibited content in a message sent from your address I rename it Fo2AFP_Verdana.bat = Fo2AFP_Verdana_CommandFile.txt and C0A484B0 = C0A484B0.txt Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Christian Pestel Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 3:04 PM To: fop-users Subject: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Hi Alexios, may be some pb to send you a zip file with .bat file inside. I rename it Fo2AFP_Verdana_bat.txt Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Christian Pestel Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:40 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Hi Alexios, The file name is correct but this doesn't work. send you the zip file. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Alexios Giotis Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:50 AM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Hi Christian, If the file name is C0A484B0.240, try renaming this to C0A484B0. If this does not work, post a small, self contained example (XSL:FO, raster font, fop config). Alexios On Jun 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Christian Pestel wrote: Thank you Alexios for your help, I download TypeTransformer [ http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=psd1P4000840 ] on my Windows7 workstation, no problem to install and run it. I try to create Verdana Afp font from Verdana windows TTF First, I want to select Windows font directory to browse ttf files. TypeTransformer exclude Windows\Fonts directory from directories selection !? I copy the 4 Verdana ttf files in another directory , and thats's work. Second, I select in TypeTransformer icon 1 - TypeFaces icon 2 - Point sizes icon 3 - Characters filters Button codepage : nothing to select. Button character list : I select LATIN.CLS icon 4 - Start job Some character are not I selected YES 28/06/2012 16:17:59 DUV0018: Transformation of job JOB1 has started. 28/06/2012 16:17:59 DUV0001: Transformation of font Verdana (font character set C0A484B0, point size 12.0, resolution 240) has started. 28/06/2012 16:17:59 DUV0015: Transformation of font character set C0A484B0 has ended. 28/06/2012 16:17:59 DUV0458: The record length for this character set is: 10536. 28/06/2012 16:17:59 DUV0122: Transformation of 122 job JOB1 has successfully completed. I obtain a raster Afp file C0A484B0.240 (46 Ko) for Verdana raster Normal 12 pt In my fop.conf USERCONFIG.xml I add : !-- Verdana Normal (raster) -- font afp-font type=raster codepage=T1V10500 encoding=Cp500 base-uri=D:/__Projets/NewProjets/BdocSuite_510/FopAFP/VerdanaFont/AfpFont afp-raster-font size=12 characterset=C0A484B0 / /afp-font font-triplet name=Verdana style=normal weight=normal/ /font I run fop an I obtain the same Afp file without embeded font. What's wrong ? Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr -Message d'origine- From: Alexios Giotis Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 3:16 PM To: Christian Pestel Cc: fop-users Subject: Re: Fop AFP / How to embed Verdana font in afp file ? Try to use the free IBM Type Transformer for Windows [1] to transform a TrueType font to an AFP raster or outline font. You might find some other AFP tools at [2]. [1] http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=psd1P4000840 [2] http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/AFPResources Alexios Giotis On Jun 28, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Christian Pestel wrote: Hi, I would like to embed Verdana font in my AFP file. How to do that ? I have Windows Verdana TrueType font installed on my workstation. Is there a Fop tool to convert Verdana TrueType to Verdana AFP raster or outline ? or do you know an openSource converter ? or do I need to sell AFP Verdana raster font or AFP Verdana outline font from IBM or Terrapin or else ? Thank for your help. Christian Pestel christian.pes...@orange.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org C0A484B0JOB1.sumUSERCONFIG.XMLtestVerdana.fotestVerdana.afp
