Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-12 Thread Andy Goth
On 6/11/2015 3:42 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote: > After a few minutes, I think it was quite comfortable. Maybe more than > using the far ESC. I don't use any ctrl-3 when I have an ESC key though. For the sake of Vim, I've swapped ~ and Esc before. That worked pretty well, actually. Take an o

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-12 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > I don’t even remap control to caps lock. stupid key. no one should ever > need caps lock. > i used to have a boss who typed with 2 fingers. When typing caps he would tap caps-lock, letter, caps-lock. i've got my ctrl/capslock swapped now..

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-12 Thread Scott Robison
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > And if you’re on a Mac, just “System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Modifier > Keys” and set Caps Lock to Control. > I don’t even remap control to caps lock. stupid key. no one should ever > need caps lock. If I were still writing Fortran 77 c

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-12 Thread Steve Bennett
> On 12 Jun 2015, at 5:23 am, Richard Hipp wrote: > > On 6/11/15, Stephan Beal wrote: >> >>> "A" - in other words swap the CapsLock and Ctrl keys - otherwise your >>> pinky is a goner. >>> >> >> >> That's a great idea. i'll take a look at that (will help with bash, in any >> case). >> > >

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Ross Berteig
On 6/11/2015 12:09 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 6/11/15, Jan Danielsson wrote: On 11/06/15 14:37, Stephan Beal wrote: [---] As part of that, as much as i hate it, i am going to have to drop emacs. That said - you'll never get me to change away from emacs key bindings :-) For a number

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Scott Robison
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 6/11/15, Stephan Beal wrote: > > > >> "A" - in other words swap the CapsLock and Ctrl keys - otherwise your > >> pinky is a goner. > >> > > > > > > That's a great idea. i'll take a look at that (will help with bash, in > any > > case). >

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 03:09:46PM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 6/11/15, Jan Danielsson wrote: > Emacs key bindings are very hard on the left pinky. Proper wrist > posture is essential to avoid repetitive stress injury. Also, use > xmodmap to ensure that the Ctrl key is the key directly to th

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/11/15, Stephan Beal wrote: > >> "A" - in other words swap the CapsLock and Ctrl keys - otherwise your >> pinky is a goner. >> > > > That's a great idea. i'll take a look at that (will help with bash, in any > case). > Just an historical note for all you younglings: In days of yore, the Ctrl

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 6/11/15, Jan Danielsson wrote: > >Interesting. I used to work with a colleague who said he couldn't > > use emacs because it made his hand hurt. He said it in a serious tone, > > but until now I figured it was just a form of dry hum

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/11/15, Jan Danielsson wrote: > On 11/06/15 14:37, Stephan Beal wrote: > [---] >> As part of that, as much as i hate it, i am going to have to drop emacs. >> My >> symptoms have been 95% restricted to my 2 left-most fingers, namely those >> which operate Shift and Ctrl (emacs being very ctrl-c

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 11/06/15 14:37, Stephan Beal wrote: [---] > As part of that, as much as i hate it, i am going to have to drop emacs. My > symptoms have been 95% restricted to my 2 left-most fingers, namely those > which operate Shift and Ctrl (emacs being very ctrl-centric and programming > making heavy use of

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Stephen, On 11 June 2015 at 05:37, Stephan Beal wrote: > Hi, all, > > management summary/TL;DR: what (non-emacs) programming editor do you *nix > users use for hacking on fossil? Good to hear that you're improving! Cross platform and open source: http://komodoide.com/komodo-edit/ You could e

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Scott Robison
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: > Hi, all, > > management summary/TL;DR: what (non-emacs) programming editor do you *nix > users use for hacking on fossil? > I've recently started using Sublime Text. It is not open source, but a good editor is worth investing in (IMO, anyway

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Ramon Ribó
Try RamDebugger: http://www2.compassis.com/c/ramdebugger/index * It is developed in TCL-TK and is open source * Is is version controlled by fossil * It has a module to commit and update fossil projects * It is suitable to develop TCL-TK, c++, XML and others * It can use Makefile, gcc and gdb

Re: [fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:37:29 +0200 Stephan Beal wrote: > management summary/TL;DR: what (non-emacs) programming editor do you > *nix users use for hacking on fossil? > > Details... > > as of tomorrow it will be 6 months since my medical leave started for > an inflamed elbow nerve (caused by too

[fossil-dev] OT: non-editor wars

2015-06-11 Thread Stephan Beal
Hi, all, management summary/TL;DR: what (non-emacs) programming editor do you *nix users use for hacking on fossil? Details... as of tomorrow it will be 6 months since my medical leave started for an inflamed elbow nerve (caused by too much typing), and i will finally be returning to work and FO