Re: [fossil-users] SVN -- Fossil Chiselapp hosting

2014-10-16 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: But that's just the executive summary. The details will require much research, planning and design. After doing some research, I was reminded that SVN branches (and tags) are implemented as copy-by-reference. This means

Re: [fossil-users] http --enforce-remote-user

2014-10-15 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said David Mason on Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:27:38 -0400: If I had my ideal, it would be to have a setting like ssh-clone-id that could be set (in the remote repo) to -local-, -remote-, or anything else,

Re: [fossil-users] SVN -- Fossil Chiselapp hosting

2014-10-15 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: As you know, migrating the project to new (D)VCS is never straightforward procedure without opposition from other camps mixed with politics. :-) However, natural step would be to provide Fossil mirror in order to show its

Re: [fossil-users] SVN -- Fossil Chiselapp hosting

2014-10-15 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Sean Woods s...@seanwoods.com wrote: I wish the gitmarks feature was better supported in Fossil to have a true incremental import without scripting multiple version control systems. But, development efforts are probably better placed elsewhere. Fossil

Re: [fossil-users] push fails with complaint about manifest syntax error

2014-10-15 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: FYI: i committed one on top of that. The advantage is that it's centralized, the disadvantage is that it hashes every manifest before parsing (to get the UUID, since parsing modifies it). Might be considered too

Re: [fossil-users] SVN -- Fossil Chiselapp hosting

2014-10-15 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: Well, I believe that Fossil could be interested for many SVN projects. The project which I converted has Git mirror which works with svn2git and every project users can see how does it feel using new (D)VCS. In that way, by not

Re: [fossil-users] SVN -- Fossil Chiselapp hosting

2014-10-15 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: Or I could try using libfossil to create a Fossil repo directly. [stephan@host:~/tmp]$ f-new ron.fsl -m 'initial chicken.' I mean that as my

Re: [fossil-users] auto-sync before merge?

2014-10-13 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: Auto sync before merge and after tagging would have saved me a few support calls from confused users over the past few years :) The after tagging: part I agree with. *Maybe* in the case of bringing in the latest from

Re: [fossil-users] http --enforce-remote-user

2014-10-13 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 9:58 PM, David Mason dma...@ryerson.ca wrote: Yeah shunning is a really big stick. Probably better to quarantine than to auto-shun Any content flagged as quarantined could be reviewed, then any that's truly spam shunned. (Any illegal (or otherwise illegitimate) may be

Re: [fossil-users] auto-sync before merge?

2014-10-10 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: i agree it's a mildly annoying thing to have happen (and an 'undo' fixes it, doesn't it?), but i'd find any pulling done by merge to be quite surprising. i want to be guaranteed that if i run fossil merge X two times

Re: [fossil-users] http --enforce-remote-user

2014-10-10 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:27 AM, David Mason dma...@ryerson.ca wrote: So the student would do: fossil clone -A student1 ssh://x...@re.mote/student1.fossil srepo.fossil Using a wrapper around Fossil, this form of the clone command could be automated: fsl clone URL becomes fossil close -A

Re: [fossil-users] auto-sync before merge?

2014-10-10 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said =?UTF-8?Q?Ramon_Rib=C3=B3?= on Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:01:47 +0200: If autosync is activated, of course it should do it. In fact, I see it as an error not doing it. Does not 'autosync' means: do all the

Re: [fossil-users] http --enforce-remote-user

2014-10-10 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:42 PM, David Mason dma...@ryerson.ca wrote: Yes, but the client side is on their own laptop or whatever, so no opportunity to wrap. So, you aren't providing a zip file of standardized tools for the class? That's what has happened for every class I've taken that

Re: [fossil-users] TH1 Hooks.

2014-10-07 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Joe Mistachkin sql...@mistachkin.com wrote: Then, you would normally need a th1-setup script, set via the settings command or a .fossil-settings file. There would need to be a procedure defined named command_hook (and/or command_notify), e.g.: proc

Re: [fossil-users] Quiet mode for update and sync

2014-10-06 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 11:05 AM, David Mason dma...@ryerson.ca wrote: (I do updates via ssh) If you are only doing updates via ssh, why run a cron job every 5 minutes? You could make a wrapper script for Fossil that runs Fossil to perform the sync, then backgrounds itself so the ssh session

Re: [fossil-users] Captcha and blind and visually impaired users

2014-10-06 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Rob robjo...@gmail.com wrote: Legend has it that on 05/10/2014 18:55, the fair wind whisper'd the words of Stephan Beal: i.e. what i'm afraid of is that once you start hosting a repo with such an option for the registration page, some bot is going to come

Re: [fossil-users] Tip: abusing autosync to abort a commit

2014-10-06 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com wrote: I have that functionality without auto sync. I don't use the -m comment option so I get a text editor showing me what has changed before I

Re: [fossil-users] Tip: abusing autosync to abort a commit

2014-10-06 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: But seriously, though, your argument is a good reason not to use -m and rely on $EDITOR instead. i think my problem is that i regularly use 2 (sometimes 3) SCMs, namely fossil, svn, and (sometimes) git, often over a

Re: [fossil-users] Captcha and blind and visually impaired users

2014-10-06 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Rob robjo...@gmail.com wrote: Do youthink it would be possible to implement a very simple textual captcha that randomizes a few numbers and a few operations and asks for the result? I think that should be fairly secure, especially if we output numbers as

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: OK, no problem. I, somehow, thought that teaching Fossil to just render using JS in the browser should not be so hard... It can do so already, but...

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: Note that wiki links are generated in many places, most notably the timeline, and if those links also have to work or the solution is only a partial one. I think an example of what I mean would be helpful. If I go to

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 14:43:50 +0200 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: That said... If you have suggestions for a generic api for arbitrary wiki parsers/filters for libfossil, i am all ears. :) As I wrote above, no

Re: [fossil-users] Quiet mode for update and sync

2014-10-02 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:35 AM, David Mason dma...@ryerson.ca wrote: While I'm on fossil sync, is there a way to reset the sync source value? For whatever reason (actually because it was easier to update privileges on my laptop than my headless server) I copied a client fossil to the server

Re: [fossil-users] Limiting public access

2014-10-02 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:03 AM, David Mason dma...@ryerson.ca wrote: I want to expose the wiki and ticket system to the public, but not anything to do with the checkins or private wiki pages.. ... Two problems: 1) the timeline is visible. This could expose information that we ... 2) the

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: As for supporting in-browser wiki rendering, how about adding an option on the New Wiki Page and Edit Wiki Page pages to choose in-browser rendering

Re: [fossil-users] I have two trunks?

2014-10-02 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:33 PM, dave d...@ziggurat29.com wrote: * Its big, so chisel can't import it, but they have a feature where you explicitly supply the project id, and then you can sync your big repo into it. So I did that. When I did have a repo on Chisel, I didn't notice this

Re: [fossil-users] Tab stop width

2014-09-30 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Zoltán Kócsi zol...@bendor.com.au wrote: When Fossil displays a file in the repository, is it possible to tell it the width of the tab characters in the file? I could not find any setting to do that. Tab stops are hard-coded to every 8th

Re: [fossil-users] Tab stop width

2014-09-30 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Zoltán Kócsi zol...@bendor.com.au wrote: When Fossil displays a file in the repository, is it possible to tell it the width of the tab characters in the file? I could not find any setting

Re: [fossil-users] Tab stop width

2014-09-30 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On the command line, I typically pipe command (including fossil) output to less, which has its own settings for filtering tabs. Which highlights

Re: [fossil-users] ticket that depends on another ticket

2014-09-30 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Paolo Bolzoni paolo.bolzoni.br...@gmail.com wrote: I am using fossil for bug tracking in a project where (not my decision) we use git for revision control. I was wondering if there

Re: [fossil-users] new ticket script changes

2014-09-30 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Andreas Kupries andre...@activestate.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Gaurav M. Bhandarkar gaurav.a...@gmail.com wrote: I get following error while creating new ticket

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-29 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.eu wrote: as you might already know, I'm the primary author of libsoldout and its integration into fossil to perform markdown-to-html conversion. If you followed recent news, you might have heard of CommonMark[1], ...

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-29 Thread Ron W
A PS to my previous post: Maybe could call the mark up implemented by libsoldout SoldOut, a safe subset of MarkDown / CommonMark. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org

Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inheritedprivilegessubscripts.

2014-09-29 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com wrote: On Sep 28, 2014 12:49 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: Sidenote: i'm curious why most people prefer postscript addition, when prefix is never slower and sometimes faster. (Not that it matters one

Re: [fossil-users] versioning system suggestions for a musician?

2014-09-29 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Andy Goth andrew.m.g...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/29/2014 11:04 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: In such a case Fossil would record both commits but store the file's contents in a single artifact (because it recognizes them by SHA1 hash, and the hash would be the same).

Re: [fossil-users] UI diff issue

2014-09-22 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 2:45 PM, to...@acm.org wrote: When someone selects a ‘from’ box, the script should update the links for older/newer options to include the selected ‘from’ parameter. [Perhaps the URL (for

Re: [fossil-users] UI diff issue

2014-09-22 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: Another possibility with one minor, extremely pedantic, _potential_ problem: in the EU (maybe other places), cookie-using sites are (since recently) required(???) to show visitors a popup explaining that cookies are

Re: [fossil-users] UI diff issue

2014-09-22 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: Seems to me that only the Older/Newer links would have to be updated by the Javascript because when one of Older/Newer is clicked, the value

Re: [fossil-users] [PATCH] Tag table in HTML generated from Markdown

2014-09-22 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Joe Mistachkin sql...@mistachkin.com wrote: I'm not an expert on CSS; however, would it be better to wrap the markdown HTML output in a div of the markdown class so that the look-and-feel of all elements within it could be customized? This makes a lot of

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-13 Thread Ron W
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: That's where my problem (per se) is: handling new/update with arbitrary/d field names is a huge pain in the butt in C. i'm completely open to assisting someone else in doing it, but this particular problem is not one

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-13 Thread Ron W
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 5:25 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: Well then, it'll have to be SQL via either Fossil CLI or libfossil (or DBD::SQLite). it's just tedious, which means that in order to get me to do

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-13 Thread Ron W
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: Was never asking you to do it. No, i know - sorry if i implied otherwise. i did feel like you were trying to talk me into thinking about it, though

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-13 Thread Ron W
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Joseph R. Justice jayare...@gmail.com wrote: From some Google searching, it looks as if libawk *might* have been a part of the Gnu Arch (a.k.a. tla) version ... Ah, and I've found another source for GNU Arch, and libawk, at http://tla.sourcearchive.com/ .

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-11 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: Is it not possible to define an open-ended list of name-value pairs? Sure we can, but then we've got a data format nobody can predict, which doesn't

Re: [fossil-users] How to do branching with new major versions

2014-09-11 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org

Re: [fossil-users] how to use git to lose data

2014-09-11 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: (Unless you can mount a pre-image attack against SHA1 - let's assume that is impossible.) FYI, FWIW, SHA1 seems to be deprecated. There was a summary on slashdot.org about Google planning to change Chrome's default setting

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-11 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: As best I can determine, Fossil already demands that whomever adds custom fields take responsibility for the customized New Ticket, View Tick and Edit

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-10 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Eric Rubin-Smith eas@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any experience with hooking up fossil to JIRA? Do you mean automatic ticket sync between Fossil and an external issue tracking system? Or using an external issue tracking system instead of Fossil's? My

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-10 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: That said: ticket integration with the JSON API turned out to be a lot more work than anticipated (and thus it is quite castrated) because of the customizability of the ticket subsystem and its close relationship to

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-10 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Eric Rubin-Smith eas@gmail.com wrote: Ron W wrote: Do you mean automatic ticket sync between Fossil and an external issue tracking system? Or using an external issue tracking system instead of Fossil's? I guess I meant the former, though the latter

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-10 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Eric Rubin-Smith eas@gmail.com wrote: If we assume for a moment that the user is willing to customize the Fossil ticket system to exactly match whatever is needed to integrate with JIRA, does the problem become easy overall? As I understand it, Jira is

Re: [fossil-users] fossil - JIRA hooks

2014-09-10 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: In principal, plain old transport is not the problem. The problem (as i recall it, though it's been a while and i've got the memory of a goldfish) was that i could not define a concrete structure for JSON/Ticket I/O

Re: [fossil-users] Comma separated lists

2014-09-09 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Tomek Kott tkott.onl...@outlook.com wrote: As per my previous email about checkboxes, I realized that its much easier to work with comma delimited lists for what I needed. Here are some possibly useful TH1 scripts for checkboxes and comma delimited lists.

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: Sometimes one of my commit messages actually stretches to the point of needing paragraphs, either because the problem it fixes is particularly complex or because the solution/feature is. On the problem description side,

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: In my experience a ticket number is the longest-lasting/maintainable approach (though _all_ of my colleagues complain when i do it, What don't they like about putting ticket IDs in the code comments?

Re: [fossil-users] Tags in comment document

2014-09-08 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: The answer, invariably (and correctly), is go look up that ticket number in Jira. RIGHT! But they still don't like seeing it. Seems to be just a force of habit. I think perhaps your experimental subjects are

Re: [fossil-users] fossil for web site maintenance [was how to use git to lose data]

2014-09-07 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Yes, but what I'd really like is an embedded wiki, that operates like a wiki - but with distributed editing, merges, updates, etc. Seems like the fossil embedded wiki provides half of that, embedded documentation

Re: [fossil-users] late-night Fossil hacks for competition with Git: arranging an active feed of commits and tickets to a remote HTTP API

2014-09-06 Thread Ron W
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Eric Rubin-Smith eas@gmail.com wrote: This post is a testament to Fossil's design and the ease of reading its implementation. I've also added a Fossil patch [...] It requires a little hacking of the Fossil source to expose some data to the TH1 Transfer

Re: [fossil-users] fossil for web site maintenance [was how to use git to lose data]

2014-09-06 Thread Ron W
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Thanks Richard. I do really like that feature - though if the branching/merging features worked for documentation that would be even better, and even better if the embedded wiki supported branching/merging

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: My summary: Some people get it and understand why Fossil is an interesting idea. Others (perhaps due to different backgrounds or work styles or expectations) cannot seem to grasp why anyone would ever consider using Fossil.

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 10:48:11 -0400 Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: The intermediate to advanced git users I've talked with seem to take the position that version control is not a backup means that history is in the back ups

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: I use lto-2 tapes, but the point is that Fossil keeps project's history since the very beginning. :-) Still need to keep the Fossil repo backed up. But yes, I like that Fossil is designed to preserve the history instead of being

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like support for moving nodes around a branch - but I want it to produce new branches. I.e. it is an additive process, not a lossy one. I had one really horrible merge where 100's of lines of code were conflicting. By

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: I use lto-2 tapes, but the point is that Fossil keeps project's history since the very

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil not updating to the true latest commit in branch

2014-09-03 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: What i do remember, though, is this coming up as a potentially workaround: fossil pull --verily Hast someone been reading Shakespeare's Star Wars? ___ fossil-users mailing

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil not updating to the true latest commit in branch

2014-09-03 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Will Parsons varro@nodomain.invalid wrote: Ha! Thou speakest well! (And get the grammar right!) I do have to admit that verily is more characteristic of the KJV Bible than Shakespeare,though... I recently read Shakespeare's Star Wars: Verily, A New Hope,

Re: [fossil-users] Off-topic faith declarations (was Re: how to use git to lose data)

2014-09-02 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:18 AM, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote: Can Fossil offer 2 solutions? SQLite based and PostgreSQL(insert big RDB here)? I think that the only way this will happen would be to fork Fossil into a new project. This would be because of the overall underlying goals of the Fossil

Re: [fossil-users] how to use git to lose data

2014-09-02 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com wrote: It certainly wouldn't work in the same way git is used by the linux kernel team. Git was originally created by the Linux Kernel team, including Linus. It's hardly surprising that git would be a better fir for them

Re: [fossil-users] Scalability (WAS: something else)

2014-09-02 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: but by very large source control i envision something akin to git's octopus model, reaching fractally out into the universe Fossil uses the octopus model as well. I just don't know of any projects using Fossil that

Re: [fossil-users] Off-topic faith declarations (was Re: how to use git to lose data)

2014-09-02 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:35 PM, David Given d...@cowlark.com wrote: Perforce handles very, very large repositories very well. (Repositories too large for git.) e.g.: One of my clients uses Perforce. Yes, it can handle huge repositories very well. The company has a few projects that benefit

Re: [fossil-users] how to use git to lose data

2014-09-02 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: If you have more than one computer connected to a VCS and at least one is mobile, you should be using a DVCS. Fossil vs Git is a side issue, when it comes to that. I do and I use Fossil (no surprise there, right?)

Re: [fossil-users] how to use git to lose data

2014-09-02 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: I've been running an open source project for a decade now, so I can tell you from experience that a lot of patches come in that do multiple things. Apparently, the projects I've submitted patches to have stricter rules.

Re: [fossil-users] Pull requests

2014-09-02 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM, David Given d...@cowlark.com wrote: I rather like the pull request workflow from github and Bazaar, and it's something that I rather miss from Fossil. Last time I actualy used github (as opposed to simply getting the latest sources for one thing or another), a

Re: [fossil-users] symlinks

2014-08-28 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com wrote: That was my idea (unless mentioning it motivated a dev to do it and commit in 15 minutes or less, as often seems to happen around here). :) It would be nice. I used to be one of the people, here, trying to

Re: [fossil-users] (no subject)

2014-08-28 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Todd Niec tn...@tornadosoft.com wrote: It seems to fit the bill almost perfectly, but I cannot enter formatted descriptions in the tickets. I am losing my whitespace formatting, for example. I see there is a drop-down list with choices like wiki, and HTML

Re: [fossil-users] symlinks

2014-08-28 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: While Windows Vista+ technically can make symlinks on NTFS, it has restrictions that make it unworkable for Fossil: 1. If you aren't running as a member of the Administrators group, you cannot create symlinks, at all,

Re: [fossil-users] symlinks

2014-08-28 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: On 8/28/2014 14:32, Ron W wrote: I wonder if it would make sense for Fossil to spawn a separate program to create symlinks. You'd need a Windows equivalent of setuid root. I imagine if such a thing exists

Re: [fossil-users] (no subject)

2014-08-28 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Paul Higham pa...@janmedical.com wrote: With the developer permissions set the attachments can be downloaded (a .pdf will open directly in the browser, but an Excel document is actually downloaded) but with all the permissions that I gave below even the .pdf is

Re: [fossil-users] Stupid Fossil Tricks #3329 of N: file line numbers

2014-08-27 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: My pleasure - i'm loving it already (in a chat-coding session) and should have done it months ago. chat-coding session reminds me that an old, long out of production, IDE had a collaborative editing feature.

Re: [fossil-users] Stupid Fossil Tricks #3329 of N: file line numbers

2014-08-27 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thanks for the new button---it is certainly more convenient than adding ?ln to the URL. An enhancement to this would be to make the numbers click-able for designating ranges to highlight. Something like click the

Re: [fossil-users] Stupid Fossil Tricks #3329 of N: file line numbers

2014-08-27 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: An enhancement to this would be to make the numbers click-able for designating ranges to highlight. Something Already on the list, just not sure how

Re: [fossil-users] Stupid Fossil Tricks #3329 of N: file line numbers

2014-08-27 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: Okay, i looked. The numbered outpput is one big PRE block, which means the impl would be relatively invasive, adding a DIV wrapper (or table row) around each line, visually similar to SBS diffs are done (though they're

Re: [fossil-users] UTF-8 and Binary Files

2014-08-25 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:52 PM, David Botham dbot...@infoblox.com wrote: I have been using Fossil for a little over a month and I am really liking. Welcome. Glad to hear you like it. Two things confuse me a bit, and I am hoping the users here can give me some insight (or point me to the

Re: [fossil-users] TH1: expr (-1)+1

2014-08-24 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Sergei Gavrikov sergei.gavri...@gmail.com wrote: Examples % fossil test-th-eval 'expr (-1)+1' fossil: ../src/th.c:2161: exprMakeTree: Assertion `!apToken[jj] || !apToken[0]' failed. I think this is a quota/grouping issue. TH1 syntax is more-or-less a

Re: [fossil-users] Public docs

2014-08-22 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Abilio Marques amarq...@smartappsla.com wrote: The file is only downloadable without login if checkout is set to nobody, and not downloadable if set to the reader. Since embedded documents are handled like other project files, this makes sense to me - even

Re: [fossil-users] available topologies for syncing and other misc questions

2014-08-20 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Charles Curtit charles.cur...@pgs.com wrote: This thread is sort of complete from my POV so I wanted to say thanks. It’s not that often I get so much good natured and usefull feedback on a mailing list. I think some of us here can thank you, too. Your

Re: [fossil-users] Asciidoc(tor) Fossil

2014-08-18 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:49:01 -0400 Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: And it could be even easier than it is, now, per my suggested enhancement to Fossil. Where can one read about it? In my message in this thread on Thu, 14

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil on a Chromebook

2014-08-18 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: Sounds like it's more trouble than it's worth for that. Use ChromeOs == GDocs or ChromeOS == remote CGI repo. I have considered getting a Chrome book as a way to get a very inexpensive laptop, but this makes it sound

Re: [fossil-users] Inconsistency with DIFF/GDIFF and --brief option

2014-08-17 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:19 AM, to...@acm.org wrote: FOSSIL DIFF --BRIEF shows a list of files that changed. FOSSIL GDIFF --BRIEF seems to ignore the brief option. Other than having gdiff to revert to diff behavior when --brief is used, I'm not sure how --brief should apply to gdiff.

Re: [fossil-users] Asciidoc(tor) Fossil

2014-08-17 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: My intention was not to suggest using AsciiDoc as 'alternative' to the Fossil's Nor mine. wiki (I had enough in the past when asking for markdown support), but only if there is some simple way to make it render AsciiDoc

Re: [fossil-users] available topologies for syncing and other misc questions

2014-08-15 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Charles Curtit charles.cur...@pgs.com wrote: Hello folks, I've been looking for a DVCS and ticket system for a while now, to make my job easier at work and I find Fossil looks really enticing. I've read the docs about fossil for 3-4 hours now, and I think

Re: [fossil-users] Asciidoc(tor) Fossil

2014-08-14 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: the topic of the markup in Fossil is quite an old one and in the past there was a thread about using AsciiDoc markup which can be rendered with I looked at AsciiDoc. In theory, it's nice, but it appears to have gathered a huge

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-07 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: This is beginning to sound like my outside contributions feature request, a.k.a. uber-patch: http://goo.gl/4lLAuY My idea was to allow untrusted outsiders to be able to send a richer patch file than patch(1) allows, but

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: I'm not aware of any evidence that an approve-up-front development process gives better end results than a fix-in-place process. Just to play

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: On 7/26/2014 08:53, Eric Rubin-Smith wrote: * Code review! Your talk of state machines suggests that you're instead envisioning a system where you can't get a checkin into the trunk -- maybe not even into a

Re: [fossil-users] Suggestion for cloning

2014-07-29 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Baruch Burstein on Sun, 27 Jul 2014 23:31:17 +0300: Maybe this should be the default always, even if I have write permission, in order to prevent accidental pushes? I believe changing the

Re: [fossil-users] Suggestion for cloning

2014-07-29 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: the push (assuming autosunc isn't pull-only AND the local repo is not no-push). i didn't know about that option (it's called dont-push, though

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-07-27 Thread Ron W
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Eric Rubin-Smith eas@gmail.com wrote: By 'code review' here I mean a web-based tool that has a formalized state machine for (a) uploading code deltas (b) filing and fixing defects against the uploaded code and (c) having the right set of people sign off.

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is now 7 years old

2014-07-25 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Michai Ramakers m.ramak...@gmail.com wrote: (one CVSTrac thing which I still miss in some more fancypants issue-trackers is the concept of ticket-groups). You could probably do that in Fossil by adding additional ticket fields and customizing the TH1 ticket

Re: [fossil-users] 'open --nested', quick poll

2014-07-22 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Michai Ramakers m.ramak...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I was wondering how many of you use 'open --nested' to have nested workdirs? I have used it on MS Windows on a few occasions where I might otherwise have used symbolic links (Yes, I know that modern

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