Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-25 Thread Sergei Gavrikov
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Stephan Beal wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: So it seems like having dates on the download would be more meaningful than having a made-up version number.  No?  With a date, at least you know about how old the

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-25 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:03 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: For my day job, version numbers in ANY capacity are out of the equation (NOT my choice). The project in question either in trunk/head or its in some branch. It pretty much means filing bug reports are useless since

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-25 Thread jungle Boogie
On 25 February 2015 at 11:03, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:03 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: For my day job, version numbers in ANY capacity are out of the equation (NOT my choice). The project in question either in trunk/head or its in some

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-25 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 2/24/15, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: [Managers] associate dates with deadlines, so version numbers remove a source of panic. Fair enough. I'll migrate from dates to version numbers in the next release. I was

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-25 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:13:22PM +0300, Sergei Gavrikov wrote: If we all were paleontologists, we could use the names of fossil animals for significant milestones of Fossil SCM What fossil are of interested other than Trilobites?! Joerg ___

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-25 Thread Andreas Kupries
Archeopteryx (proto-bird) On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:13:22PM +0300, Sergei Gavrikov wrote: If we all were paleontologists, we could use the names of fossil animals for significant milestones of Fossil SCM What

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Andy Goth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/24/2015 3:21 PM, Ron W wrote: Took a quick look at Fossil commits tagged release, I see tags like version-1.31, version-1.30, etc. I also see references to SQLite versions in the form x.y.z as opposed to a date string. Seems like x.y or

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread robotanarchy
Am Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:04:06 -0500 schrieb Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com: But, in any case, Mr robotanarchy seems to be requesting that the official release tar file be created with, for example: fossil tarball version-1.31 fossil-src-1_31.tar.gz --name fossil-src-1_31 to make it

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Joe, On 24 February 2015 at 12:38, Joe Prostko joe.pros...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is mostly handy for packagers, where it's easier to write a packaging script knowing the downloaded file will be somepieceofsoftware-1.2.3.tar.gz, which then extracts out to somepieceofsoftware-1.2.3.

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: Took a quick look at Fossil commits tagged release, I see tags like version-1.31, version-1.30, etc. I also see references to SQLite versions in the form x.y.z as opposed to a date string. BTW, would be useful to have an entry

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Ron, On 24 February 2015 at 13:24, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, would be useful to have an entry in the search type pull-down for tags (there were a lot of occurrences of release in the comments). Although not exposed as a menu option there is this link:

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:59 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: How have you been updating packages in the past? All releases are like this: 20150223162734 20150119112900 20140612172556 20140127173344 2013094349 Took a quick look at Fossil commits tagged release, I see

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Joe Prostko
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 2/24/15, robotanarchy robotanar...@bingo-ev.de wrote: I'd replace the underscore with a dot, so it becomes fossil-1.31.tar.gz ..but other than that, that's my point. Can you guys do that? We can call things

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Richard Hipp
On 2/24/15, robotanarchy robotanar...@bingo-ev.de wrote: Hello Fossil developers, I was building the fossil binary yesterday and I've noticed that the names of the tarballs aren't very userfriendly. As I see it, there are two tarballs that one could use, one is from the downloads page [1]

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread robotanarchy
Am Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:33:42 +0100 schrieb Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Providing a date on the filename seems (to me) a lot more useful than a random SHA1 hash. +1, if only because they retain their release

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Oliver Friedrich
Just to throw my thought on this into the discussion. I'd really appreciate having a static url to get the latest stable/testing sources from. So to be able to download from https://www.fossil-scm.org/download/fossil-src-stable.tar.gz the latest stable sources. Maybe that even makes it

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Richard Hipp
On 2/24/15, Oliver Friedrich redtalonof+mailingl...@gmail.com wrote: Just to throw my thought on this into the discussion. I'd really appreciate having a static url to get the latest stable/testing sources from. https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/tarball/fossil-src-stable.tar.gz?uuid=release

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 2/24/15, Oliver Friedrich redtalonof+mailingl...@gmail.com wrote: I'd really appreciate having a static url to get the latest stable/testing sources from.

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Martin Gagnon
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 03:52:56PM +, Oliver Friedrich wrote: Just to throw my thought on this into the discussion. I'd really appreciate having a static url to get the latest stable/testing sources from. So to be able to download from https://www.fossil-scm.org/download/

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
2015-02-24 15:30 GMT+01:00 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org: On 2/24/15, robotanarchy robotanar...@bingo-ev.de wrote: Hello Fossil developers, I was building the fossil binary yesterday and I've noticed that the names of the tarballs aren't very userfriendly. As I see it, there are two tarballs

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Baptiste Daroussin baptiste.darous...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-24 15:30 GMT+01:00 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org: On 2/24/15, robotanarchy robotanar...@bingo-ev.de wrote: When downloading file [1], you'll get an archive that has a different file name than

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Joe Prostko
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:59 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, How have you been updating packages in the past? All releases are like this: 20150223162734 20150119112900 20140612172556 20140127173344 2013094349 I just used those as they were without issue.

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Richard Hipp
On 2/24/15, Andy Goth andrew.m.g...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/24/2015 3:21 PM, Ron W wrote: Took a quick look at Fossil commits tagged release, I see tags like version-1.31, version-1.30, etc. I also see references to SQLite versions in the form

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Richard Hipp
On 2/24/15, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: [Managers] associate dates with deadlines, so version numbers remove a source of panic. Fair enough. I'll migrate from dates to version numbers in the next release. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: So it seems like having dates on the download would be more meaningful than having a made-up version number. No? With a date, at least you know

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread jungle Boogie
On 24 February 2015 at 16:50, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: So it seems like having dates on the download would be more meaningful than having a

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: So it seems like having dates on the download would be more meaningful than having a made-up version number. No? With a date, at least you know about how old the code is. What information does a made-up version number

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Andy Goth andrew.m.g...@gmail.com wrote: So just grab the file at this URL: https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/tarball/fossil-1.31.tar.gz?uuid=version-1.31 and be happy. The file will have the name you want. Or replace 1.31 with whichever tagged release

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil source download naming scheme

2015-02-24 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: It's going to be more complicated than that. The people who want ... Since this is a major change, I propose that it be deferred until Fossil 2.0 (which will likely be the next release). Honestly, it doesn't matter to me.