2009/8/21 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
My God. If a few dozen people couldn't easily determine to a relatively
high degree of certainty what portion of a mere 0.03% of Wikipedia's
articles are *vandalized*, how useless is Wikipedia?
I never said they couldn't. I said they couldn't do it by
2009/8/21 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
Is this article vandalized? is a yes/no question...
True, but that isn't actually the question that this research tried to
answer. It tried to answer How much time has this article spent in a
vandalised state?. If we are only interested in whether the most
2009/8/19 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net:
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Nathannawr...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
certainly see why it would be frustrating for him: he's much more reasonable
in voice chat than over text, and if the audio were widely circulated it's
2009/8/19 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com:
I hope that some Foundation staff or board member will comment on what has
happened here. Wikimedia Foundation server resources were used to
coordinate a discussion of issues by no less than eight candidates for the
Board of Trustees.
What WMF
Congratulations to the victors and thank you to all the candidates and
thank you to the departing Domas!
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2009/8/11 Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org:
FUNDRAISING, GRANTS, PARTNERSHIPS
During April, the Wikimedia Foundation received 922 donations, with a
combined total value of USD 78,453. Year-to-date, the Wikimedia
Foundation has raised USD 5,491415 in donations from individuals, 37%
above
2009/8/12 Veronique Kessler vkess...@wikimedia.org:
Your comment is very timely. We are, and have been, thinking about the
best solution regarding extra money. First, we want to consider an
appropriate reserve amount, i.e. this can range from 3 months of
expenses for some organizations to 2
2009/8/12 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
It is my understanding that the parties incorrectly stricken
previously were not contacted. I believe that an attempt should be
made to contact stricken parties, even if it means delaying the
results.
Really? That amazes me. Surely everyone that
2009/8/12 Sue Gardner susanpgard...@gmail.com:
I definitely sympathize with people wanting to be connected and aware of
what's going on with the staff. I'd be curious to know what kinds of
information people find most useful of what we publish today, and what you'd
like to see more of --
2009/8/12 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
I too agree that there is an obligation to contact, hopefully with
enough time to respond and point out an error, but I don't believe
that the the contact must be absolutely immediate.
I agree that there is no real need for it to be immediate, but
2009/8/9 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net:
Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Although I had already voted, I was not bothered by one tiny email reminding
me that I was eligible to vote. Thanks guys, hopefully this will get people
to the polls.
It didn't bother me either even though it came after
2009/8/10 stevertigo o...@spaz.org:
2009/8/8 Stevertjgo o...@spaz.org:
I think those high level discussion can take place either on-wiki or
on existing mailing lists without a problem.
I generally agree. But existing mailing lists generally means wikien-l -
once highly purposed toward
2009/8/8 Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
I have just received an email telling me I am eligible to vote in the
board elections when I have already voted. Please don't send
untargetted mass emails - they are spam.
2009/8/8 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com:
Although I had already voted, I was not bothered by one tiny email reminding
me that I was eligible to vote. Thanks guys, hopefully this will get people
to the polls.
If it was difficult to avoid emailing people that have already voted,
I
I think this is a fantastic idea. I think the biggest problem the tech
side of the WMF has had over the last year or two has been
prioritisation and splitting the job like this should help that no
end.
I'm curious - would the Senior Software Architect report to the CTO?
If so, that means Brion
2009/8/7 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
So you're suggesting we should join in the rampant title inflation of
corporate America, where everyone is a Sr. Executive Vice-President of
something? Anyway, your assessment of Brion's ongoing significance to
our operations is perceptive, and I
2009/8/7 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
2009/8/7 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
It's not bad to have an internal pattern, but I think it's more
important to match the practices in industry.
By containing the magic words senior and architect the proposed
Senior Software Architect is, in
2009/8/7 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
Well, we can still informally call him the lead developer.
We can informally call him Brion. It's worked up until now!
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disputes that involve the mailing lists. It would be better than
having the lists themselves filled with complaints.
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2009/8/8 Stevertjgo o...@spaz.org:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com said:
Perhaps we do need a dispute resolution mailing list for resolving
disputes that involve the mailing lists. It would be better than
having the lists themselves filled with complaints.
I'm
I have just received an email telling me I am eligible to vote in the
board elections when I have already voted. Please don't send
untargetted mass emails - they are spam.
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2009/7/31 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com:
For me, the analogy is simple: just because you get a driver's license once
doesn't entitle you to drive for the rest of your life.
Unless you actively do something wrong and get disqualified, yes it
does. The analogy works for not letting
http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=866109
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2009/7/28 Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=866109
I am getting timeouts on this server. Does any have copy of their
statement for me?
Works for me.
2009/7/28 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Mathias Schindler
mathias.schind...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=866109
I am getting timeouts
2009/7/28 Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org:
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Al Tallymajorly.w...@googlemail.com wrote:
I notice, for example, that the enwiki
based ombudsman, Sam Korn, has made just one edit this month. I think for a
role like this, it is necessary to be more active than
2009/7/24 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/16060
Basically, if you cut'n'paste text, it appends a CC credit line to the
pasted text. Obviously the paster can remove it, but it does remind
them this is licensed, not PD.
Worth using for our stuff? A bit
2009/7/24 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
In that case they can highlight the attribution and press backspace!
Sure, but we shouldn't make it unnecessarily difficult for people to
reuse our content and tidying up after our crude attempt to force
attribution would qualify as unnecessarily
2009/7/24 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
Eh, backspace isn't much of a difficulty. It could probably also be
made to only trigger for text over some particular size. You're not
likely to have a legal obligation for a couple of words, but if you
copy several paragraphs you'll have both a
Thomas Dalton) was fairly easy to deal with.
I filed bug report requesting the list's creation on June 27, which
was assigned to C.Bass
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19414 . I also emailed
C.Bass directly.
Responses were rather mixed - there were different proposals being
2009/7/23 stevertigo stv...@gmail.com:
That actually wasn't my proposal to resolve disputes there. On the
other hand, if a report to ANI or RFC receives attention that solves
certain problems, then does that mean you would object to the usage of
ANI or RFC to resolve disputes?
ANI and RFC
2009/7/22 Marco Chiesa chiesa.ma...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Teofiloteofilow...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody;
This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at :
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_?
2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com:
... At some point we will probably want to set
up our own server(s) and then the confusion will be eliminated.
I don't get it why elimination depends on hosting.
I'm not sure how the WMF servers are set up, it might be possible to
direct our
2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com:
There should not be any real problem to link wikimedia.org.uk directly
to Wikimedia UK chapter wiki (wherever it's hosted).
It depends on how the WMF has everything set up. They have a
complicated setup for hosting multiple wikis, it may well be
2009/7/17 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/7/17 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
So: what would everyone here like to see in a compromise, that
addresses the concerns of all sides? What makes the NPG happier and
more secure, and will fly with WMF and with the Wikimedia community?
Nothing.
2009/7/11 Sue Gardner susanpgard...@gmail.com:
Point of clarification -- the Wikimedia Foundation sends out press releases
to international media, not just US media. We have no plans to send out a
press release on this issue.
Of course, what I meant was that only the WMF sends press
2009/7/11 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com:
Lets finish up the press releases and drop this thread. NPG can read it too.
Has a US press release been sent out?
I doubt it. The WMF handles US press releases and they aren't stupid
enough to talk to the press until they know what they're
2009/7/11 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no:
Local chapters can say something about whats going on, they can't make
claims on behalf of others, but they can interpret written statements
like any other blogger or news outlet. Just remember that wmf sends
press releases on behalf of wmf, nobody
2009/7/11 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/7/11 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/7/11 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no:
I sent out a press release earlier today to newspapers in Norway. It was
sent to around 200 recipients. Perhaps others could do the same thing.
Please, nobody else
2009/7/11 geni geni...@gmail.com:
The case is under English and welsh law. For solid legal reasons the
NPG will be willing to make a reasonable settlement.
Since we know that the NPG are not completely stupid and English law
in any case lacks statutory damages it would seem to be somewhat
2009/7/11 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net:
If he didn't want public comments he would not have made the letter
public; he might have chosen more private WMF channels.
Do you know that he sought legal advice before publishing the letter?
If he didn't, then is may not have been an informed
2009/7/11 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/7/11 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
You can't know that and it's not your place to guess. Just stay out of
it unless Derrick asks for your help.
I think we can safely assume that the NPG it is not going to follow a
legal strategy that gives them
2009/7/11 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net:
ROTFL. He published it; that's a fact. It would be very rare indeed for
anyone to have sought legal advice before making online comments. The
NPG site, like many others, has a link to its terms of service. How
often does *anyone* who uses such
2009/7/11 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net:
I've restored the comments that I was replying to since you deleted them
to wilfully mischaracterize my ROTFL as applying to the general issue
rather than your silly comments.
I've yet to see any evidence that you know what you are talking about.
2009/7/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
2009/7/11 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
Would I be right in assuming that you are American? You certainly have
Oh, and Ray is Canadian ;-p
He should know better, then.
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2009/7/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
2009/7/11 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
Would I be right in assuming that you are American? You certainly have
that religious view of free speech that is typical of Americans...
This has nothing to do with suppression of free speech, it has
2009/7/10 stevertigo stv...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Milos Rancicmill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
I remember reading in Isaac Asimov's autobiography how, as a chemist
in the 1940s, he had to learn French and
2009/7/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
... the National Portrait Gallery appear to be sending legal threats
to individual uploaders, after the Foundation ignored their claims as
utterly, utterly specious.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat
The editor in
2009/7/11 George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com:
Technically, the user could just ignore this - a lawsuit in a UK court
without relevant jurisdiction, under US law as applies, can be
ignored. A default judgement against him might be entered, however,
and that might make future travel to
The UK Intellectual Property Office (http://www.ipo.gov.uk) says:
A work can only be original if it is the result of independent
creative effort. It will not be original if it has been copied from
something that already exists. If it is similar to something that
already exists but there has been
2009/7/11 Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com:
Yes, and the letter from NPG seems to assert that:
...we can confirm that every one of the images that you have copied
is the product of a painstaking exercise on the part of the
photographer that created the image in which significant time, skill,
2009/7/11 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
This is where in the US, Bridgeman v Corel established that a
slavish reproduction of a PD work does not constitute a new work
that can be protected by copyright.
We know that isn't the case under UK law, the question is whether the
photographs
2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com:
The issue here is that, in the Catalan case for example, the effort is
already beyond just a working group. You have a group of people who
are more than mature to have their own organisation and make it
succesful. What they lack is legitimity under
2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com:
I think a formal Association of Catalan Wikimedians, recognised by
the WMF as an affiliated organisation and with something quite
similar to the chapters agreement would work well. Calling it a
chapter will cause problems, since it overlaps with
2009/7/8 Thomas de Souza Buckup thomasdesouzabuc...@gmail.com:
Ilario,
you said:
without an organization it's impossible to found
a point of contact (for example there is no legal representatives).
I understand your concern, but in reality, there are many ways to determine
a point of
2009/7/8 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com:
I have researched a bit, while looking at the catalan case and my
conclusion is that such interest groups might be able to fundraise
where national chapters and the Foundation can't. It is impossible
(and in any case not desirable) for Wikimedia
2009/7/8 Tris Thomas t...@waterhay.co.uk:
Dear All,
I don't know whether this has been discussed before, apologies if it has.
I'm interested in people's thoughts on a new Wikimedia project-maybe
WikiWeather, which basically would do what it says on the tin. Along
with importing national
2009/7/8 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com:
Exactly. One (the Welsh) is integrated into the geographic region of
one chapter, the other (the Catalan) spreads across geographic regions
taken care of by several chapters.
On the case of the Welsh, I see no problem of having a Wikimedia
Wales
I agree that this is a discussion worth having. Chapters fulfil one
very specific purpose (furthering the goals of the movement within a
certain geographical area), there are all kinds of other useful things
to do which need appropriate tools.
Several people have talked about informal groups
2009/7/6 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
I just want to quickly catch everyone up on some of the board's work in
June. In addition to the 2009-10 Annual Plan, which we approved after an
IRC meeting with Sue and Veronique, the board passed resolutions
recognizing three new local Wikimedia
2009/7/3 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
H264 already plays in, IIRC, 98% of browsers through flash.
Flash isn't generally available out of the box, though, is it?
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2009/7/1 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
Editors clearly need a better system for declaring facts about
articles and then using them in advanced template programming. One can
imagine an alternate system where his birthday is only declared once,
like so, in the article text: born on
2009/6/30 Aude aude.w...@gmail.com:
Henrik's Wikipedia article traffic statistics tool does not indicate
copyright or license status, so it's not clear if I can include a chart on a
Wikipedia page. Does anyone know the license status for the charts?
http://stats.grok.se/
Facts aren't
2009/6/28 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com:
Wikipedia does not take an article, nor does Wikimedia.
As far as I'm concerned Wikimedia doesn't exist as a proper noun.
It's just an adjective: the Wikimedia Foundation, the Wikimedia
movement, the Wikimedia projects, the Wikimedia community etc.
2009/6/27 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
Ziko van Dijk wrote:
Hello,
Could someone explain to me why Wikipedia is without definite
article? In English you say the Britannica, so why not the
Wikipedia? I am wondering that also in German Wikipedians and
non-Wikipedians tend to drop the
2009/6/27 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Gray
andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote:
(Perhaps Britannica gets it because Encyclopedia is a common word -
we'd feel silly with the sentence I looked it up in Encyclopedia
Britannica, because I looked it up in
2009/6/24 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
Pedro Sanchez wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.comwrote:
Of course, there are and always have been a wide range of free content
licenses used for images on Commons, not just GFDL and CC.
Thanks,
Pharos
2009/6/18 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org:
2009/6/18 Walter Vermeir wal...@wikipedia.be:
When I look at the updated en.wikipedia.org and [[meta:Licensing
update/Implementation]] page I see that site footer only states that the
text is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike
2009/6/18 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org:
2009/6/18 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
That seems reasonable to me, but I would say alternative terms
rather than additional terms. Additional terms suggests you have to
follow them in addition to the CC ones, which isn't the case
2009/6/18 Stephen Bain stephen.b...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Erik Moellere...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Because the GFDL is only of interest to a minority of
re-users,
...
If this is the Foundation's view, why did it opt to push for (hobbled)
dual-licencing going forward,
2009/6/18 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
It's more than a concession isn't it? The GFDL has the or any later
version clause. The CC-BY-SA is not a later version of the GFDL. I think we
have to keep it forever and ever.
Existing content will always be available under the GFDL regardless of
2009/6/18 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
What do you consider to be new content ? Newly started articles, or new
edits?
Either.
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2009/6/11 geni geni...@gmail.com:
The current English wikipedia copyright terms are You irrevocably
agree to release your contributions under the GFDL which clocks in at
ten words. There are another 13 words of editing guidance.
Your version clocks in at 112 words or a 380% increase. When
2009/6/8 Moushira Elamrawy moushi...@gmail.com:
University website: http://www.uopeople.org
Currently providing two academic programs; computer science track and
business admin. Enrollment deadline for fall semester hasn't yet
passed!!
[T]he University of the People does not presently confer
2009/6/8 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
I presume the WMF has a large amount of free disk space. How much?
Hard drives are cheap, the WMF can just buy more if that is all that is needed.
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2009/6/4 Jon scr...@nonvocalscream.com:
Has apache/proxy level filtering been considered?
Filtering for what? Javascript is executed client-side, ie. after the
page has gone through the apache servers/proxies.
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2009/6/1 mike.wikipe...@gmail.com mike.wikipe...@gmail.com:
You also found any statistics on what prices for internet access through
mobile networks are? What proportion of the world's people can afford a
internet connection in the first place, and how many can afford a
connection which is
2009/6/1 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se:
Thomas Dalton wrote:
2009/5/31 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se:
The idea of showing diffs since the user last viewed the same
wave, is very similar to Flagged revisions.
How is it in any way like Flagged revisions?
From the video, the user
2009/6/1 Yann Forget y...@forget-me.net:
Last I asked, broadband Internet access in India was about INR 1500 (32
US$), which is at least a week day salary for an Indian worker.
True, in theory, there are Internet cafes, but last I tried (in 2007)
they can be really used for looking at
2009/6/2 Yann Forget y...@forget-me.net:
Thomas Dalton wrote:
2009/6/1 Yann Forget y...@forget-me.net:
Last I asked, broadband Internet access in India was about INR 1500 (32
US$), which is at least a week day salary for an Indian worker.
True, in theory, there are Internet cafes, but last I
2009/5/31 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com:
For sure. I was just burying the point that telegrams
are not the best comparison. Courier mail did the
thing much slower, but it got the thing done.
Telegrams were for when you needed the
immediacy that E-mail now gives for free.(spam
2009/5/31 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
I propose a cheap cellphone-sized device (OWPP) whose only purpose is to
read Wikipedia.
That's probably both the wrong form (too small) and the wrong content (too
flighty) for
2009/5/31 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
If Waves works anything like email, then it will be possible to use it when
not directly connected to the Internet. How's that for helping get
Wikipedia to people without Internet access?
Not very. Waves, like email, should work for people with
2009/5/31 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
Wikipedia over TV would never work. There isn't the bandwidth for it.
So only broadcast a subset.
A very small subset.
TV is a broadcast medium, that means you have to be constantly sending
everything anyone could want (or, at least, sending it fairly
2009/5/31 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
By broadcast medium I mean a one-way transmission of information.
I don't know about yours, but my TV uses two-way transmission. So a
statement that TV is a broadcast medium is just not correct. True, it's
probably correct in the vast majority of
2009/5/31 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
Hoi,
Much of the Wave functionality demonstrated is superior to what is
available in MediaWiki. Consider a LAN with OPLC systems, consider a Wave
server on the school server.. It would be pretty damn good to be able to
have all kinds of
2009/5/31 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
If you watched the Wave presentation you'll see that there is quite a bit of
edit conflict handling already built in (they showed three people editing
the same page simultaneously).
I did watch it. That was live, they could see each other editing and
avoid
2009/5/31 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/5/31 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
wrote:
There is no such thing as one-way internet access
2009/5/31 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
Edit conflicts with live editing aren't an issue, manual resolution is
trivial. Edit conflicts with significant delays are a much bigger
problem and require automated merging
2009/6/1 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/5/31 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
I just found another statistic. Mobile networks cover roughly 80-90% of
the
worlds population.
For them, using that mobile network
2009/6/1 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
I guess I'm so used to broadband I forgot about the
existence of dial up for a second! You would need to hand out phones,
laptops, and network subscriptions, though - that's
2009/5/30 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com:
Thomas Dalton wrote:
E-mail, once
it let the military/academia, was a completely new thing, there wasn't
anything like it before (the closest thing was telegrams, which
charged by the word, could take a few hours to reach
2009/5/30 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
I'm not sure if it'll catch on, because Google seems to have added so much
extraneous crap into the mix
Like replying in the middle of a message, not by quoting the original, but
by
2009/5/30 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
I hated the way it didn't seem to
indicate what message you were replying to. For the most part, the
conversation had a linear structure, not a tree one. They would reply
2009/5/30 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
A: What's your favorite color?
B: I like red
C: I like green
D: Red and green? Are you nuts? Blue is the best color of all?
A: I agree with B, red is definitely the nicest color.
C: But isn't the wavelength of green so much more asthetically pleasing?
2009/5/30 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org:
Milos Rancic wrote:
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
It's not free software. The blog post says they intend to open source
the code. That generally means the code quality is so bad that they'd
be
2009/5/31 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se:
The idea of showing diffs since the user last viewed the same
wave, is very similar to Flagged revisions.
How is it in any way like Flagged revisions?
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2009/5/30 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
That would be great, but wouldn't it also mean the death of Google and
pretty much any company which relies on web advertising to make money? How
do you make money off of P2P?
2009/5/30 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
It would be whatever on steroids as a proprietary software model or
free-client-proprietary-server model. However, this model have the
same potential as email had a couple of decades ago.
Not really. This isn't that different to existing technology,
2009/5/28 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net:
Samuel Klein wrote:
As much as anything else it is the short time frame that will look
pushy. Wikipedia went through a lot of debate *before* the switch, and
The timeframe is a problem, absolutely.
If we were so fortunate as to have that as the
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