On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Anders
Wennersten wrote:
> I also like this approach
> *On most informal level - a Working Group, carefully organized under a
> "Working Group Organizer" who has a time-limited agreement/recognition
> letter with the Foundation
> *On intermediate level - a legally
2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard :
> It could be assimilated to the way organisations partner up to answer
> EU grants for example. Each keeps their autonomy, but they all work
> together towards a common goal. Call it "support" or "partnership",
> not "recognition", that probably makes more sense.
Yes, "
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 16:41, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard :
>>> I think a formal "Association of Catalan Wikimedians", recognised by
>>> the WMF as an "affiliated organisation" and with something quite
>>> similar to the chapters agreement would work well. Calling it a
>>> chapt
2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard :
>> I think a formal "Association of Catalan Wikimedians", recognised by
>> the WMF as an "affiliated organisation" and with something quite
>> similar to the chapters agreement would work well. Calling it a
>> chapter will cause problems, since it overlaps with other chap
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 16:18, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard :
>> The issue here is that, in the Catalan case for example, the effort is
>> already beyond just a "working group". You have a group of people who
>> are more than mature to have their own organisation and make it
>> su
2009/7/9 Delphine Ménard :
> The issue here is that, in the Catalan case for example, the effort is
> already beyond just a "working group". You have a group of people who
> are more than mature to have their own organisation and make it
> succesful. What they lack is "legitimity" under the Wikimed
I also like this approach
*On most informal level - a Working Group, carefully organized under a
"Working Group Organizer" who has a time-limited agreement/recognition
letter with the Foundation
*On intermediate level - a legally recognized organizations that could
support an interest group, th
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 04:11, Pharos wrote:
> I think a possible solution for this kind of thing might be "Working
> Groups", each carefully organized under a "Working Group Organizer"
> who has a time-limited charter to lead such a group.
>
> The issue here is that when dealing with a small unorga
I think a possible solution for this kind of thing might be "Working
Groups", each carefully organized under a "Working Group Organizer"
who has a time-limited charter to lead such a group.
The issue here is that when dealing with a small unorganized group,
really the only practicable way to maint
2009/7/8 Delphine Ménard :
> Exactly. One (the Welsh) is integrated into the geographic region of
> one chapter, the other (the Catalan) spreads across geographic regions
> taken care of by several chapters.
>
>
> On the case of the Welsh, I see no problem of having a "Wikimedia
> Wales" as a "sect
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 20:20, Casey Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>> I don't know the details of the "catalan case" and I think it is
>> probably quite different to the "Welsh case"
>
> As far as I know, you're right -- they are very different. :-) My
> under
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> I don't know the details of the "catalan case" and I think it is
> probably quite different to the "Welsh case"
As far as I know, you're right -- they are very different. :-) My
understanding of the "catalan case" is that a group of people w
2009/7/8 Delphine Ménard :
> I have researched a bit, while looking at the "catalan case" and my
> conclusion is that such interest groups might be able to fundraise
> where national chapters and the Foundation can't. It is impossible
> (and in any case not desirable) for Wikimedia France or Wikime
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 06:54, Michael Snow wrote:
> case.) The basic question is, what can or should we do to encourage
> grassroots groups that want to support our mission, but may not fit into
> the chapters framework?
As an answer to this question, I would say yes. My nuances come later.
> Th
2009/7/8 Thomas de Souza Buckup :
> Ilario,
>
> you said:
>
>> without an organization it's impossible to found
>> a point of contact (for example there is no legal representatives).
>
>
> I understand your concern, but in reality, there are many ways to determine
> a point of contact "without an o
Ilario,
you said:
> without an organization it's impossible to found
> a point of contact (for example there is no legal representatives).
I understand your concern, but in reality, there are many ways to determine
a point of contact "without an organization". For instance, "instead of
legal re
Thomas Dalton, 06/07/2009 16:58:
> In the UK there is a concept of an unincorporated
> association where the association (which can have full charitable
> status) isn't a legal entity in its own right and any agreements it
> makes are actually made with the Board of Trustees as a group of
> individ
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Thomas de Souza
Buckup wrote:
>
> *We are **a movement of autonomous volunteers:
> *
>
> - *Instead of a legal entity, an open movement*
> - *Instead of bylaws, a statement of principles*
> - *Instead of legal representatives, task assigned peers*
> - *Inste
Michael, thanks for starting this thread.
I'll try to synthesize below some information about the development of the
Brazilian "chapter". I hope the list will find it useful.
A group of volunteers spent more than one year discussing, writing,
translating and approving the bylaws to create a legal
Hoi,
When it comes to special interests, there are two existing groups you can
add to the list.. There is a group who wants to enable MediaWiki for African
languages. There is a group who are working on an extension in order to
enable sign languages using the SignWriting script.
For the African la
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 21:54 -0700, Michael Snow wrote:
> One example is interest groups
> that aren't tied to geography, the way the chapters are. I always cite
> the idea of an Association of Blind Wikipedians, who might wish to
> organize to promote work on accessibility issues.
Actually, t
I agree that this is a discussion worth having. Chapters fulfil one
very specific purpose (furthering the goals of the movement within a
certain geographical area), there are all kinds of other useful things
to do which need appropriate tools.
Several people have talked about informal groups signi
It seems to me that several kind of groups are talked about in this
same discussion:
* Informal groups, grass root movements, like the Brazilians
* Non-geographical groups like the Blind, but also Latin or Yiddish Wikipedians
* Partners outside the Wikimedia movement, like Bundesarchiv
For the fir
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Michael Snow wrote:
>
> There are various possibilities here. One example is interest groups
> that aren't tied to geography, the way the chapters are. I always cite
> the idea of an Association of Blind Wikipedians, who might wish to
> organize to promote work on ac
Aside from the new chapters, right now the Board of Trustees is looking
at what kinds of related groups we want to have relationships with.
(What prompts this directly is the case of Wikimedia Brazil, which was
approved to become a chapter last year, but whose organizers have since
decided they
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