Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
GTBOS: http://www.youtube.com/v/l7AWnfFRc7g
At 03:49 16-04-2011, you wrote:
Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
So nobody has any idea why things are the way they are? Will I have
to make a drawing?
I would love a drawing.
MZMcBride
(by the way)
An equally
Yes, indeed. I didn't send that one because it did not address the
question at hand, but it's a great analysis that addresses an
important issue relevant to the contributors to all Wikimedia
projects. It even fully explains what motivates me. I hope everybody
was able to identify themselves
On 04/15/11 5:05 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
So nobody has any idea why things are the way they are? Will I have
to make a drawing?
A *relevant* drawing would be nice. Your offer of a drawing is no less
sarcastic than David's about being consulted. We're not talking about
elaborate
On 16 April 2011 01:48, Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com wrote:
It might be easier if you look at it as a numerical scale where native
speaker is a quality level at or near the top, and someone who speaks none
of or only a handful of words in the language is at the bottom. From Jay's
In a message dated 4/5/2011 6:08:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bnewst...@wikimedia.org writes:
Another quick note on the Movement Communications Manager posting that we
are hoping to fill at WMF. We have a number of applicants, but very, very
few are from the Wikimedia community. We would
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:36, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/5/2011 6:08:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bnewst...@wikimedia.org writes:
Another quick note on the Movement Communications Manager posting that we
are hoping to fill at WMF. We have a number of applicants, but very,
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:36, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/5/2011 6:08:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bnewst...@wikimedia.org writes:
Another quick note on the Movement Communications Manager posting that
we
are hoping to fill at WMF. We have a number of applicants, but
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:42, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
I understood that they wanted someone who was ideally *not* a native
English speaker. That was something that concerned me when I read it,
because it looked as if the intention was to disadvantage applicants
who had
However it is hard to imagine an ideal second language that is not
European; only Arabic is spoken by a large diverse population with internet
access.
Hindi and Japanese (chinese too but not all of they have internet acess) ;)
_
*Béria Lima*
http://wikimedia.pt/ (351) 925 171 484
Is not a Bias Sarah. Anyone can apply, but they have to know english (if not
as 1º language as 2º one) and another language (if english is the 1º one).
If this person is american, chinese, brazilian or african (i imagine) that
really don't care
_
*Béria Lima*
http://wikimedia.pt/ (351) 925 171
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 13:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
Is not a Bias Sarah. Anyone can apply, but they have to know english (if not
as 1º language as 2º one) and another language (if english is the 1º one).
If this person is american, chinese, brazilian or african (i imagine) that
And no English speaker is able to learn a second language?
_
*Béria Lima*
http://wikimedia.pt/ (351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer.***
2011/4/15 Sarah
On 15 April 2011 15:17, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 13:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
Is not a Bias Sarah. Anyone can apply, but they have to know english (if
not
as 1º language as 2º one) and another language (if english is the 1º
one).
If this
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 13:29, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15 April 2011 15:17, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 13:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
Is not a Bias Sarah. Anyone can apply, but they have to know english (if
not
as 1º language as 2º
I don't see how can be discriminative Sarah.
I (and all no english speaker here) needed to - at some point of their lifes
- start to study a second language. We all have problems to speak in a
language we are not native and had to spent years to be good in it. The ad
forces us to speak one
On Apr 15, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Sarah wrote:
Not quite sure where you're coming from there. Today I've interacted with
about 60 professional colleagues. They're all Canadians but I'd venture to
guess that at least a third would consider themselves native speakers of at
least one other
To put things in perspective...
On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 12:42 -0600, ext Fred Bauder wrote:
However it is hard to imagine an ideal second language that is not
European; only Arabic is spoken by a large diverse population with
internet access.
Already in 2009 China had more Internet users than
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:42, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
wrote:
I understood that they wanted someone who was ideally *not* a native
English speaker. That was something that concerned me when I read it,
because it looked as if the intention was to disadvantage applicants
who had
Sarah I understand your point, but the required qualification just above the
non-English states : Exceptional English writing is critical for this role,
including the ability to write time-sensitive, efficient, compelling, and
clearly understandable communications products for a wide range of
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 15:26, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
I don't think it is bias. Giving extra attention to the global south is a
legitimate goal. Arabic, Spanish, Portuguese, French, English, and
Chinese are commonly spoken there. There are different considerations
with
On 15 April 2011 17:46, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 15:26, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
I don't think it is bias. Giving extra attention to the global south is a
legitimate goal. Arabic, Spanish, Portuguese, French, English, and
Chinese are
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 16:30, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15 April 2011 23:24, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
Right, I understand that. But my question is whether an employment ad
in America could lawfully say (or imply), Ideally your native
language is not Urdu.
The
On 15 April 2011 18:36, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 16:30, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15 April 2011 23:24, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
Right, I understand that. But my question is whether an employment ad
in America could lawfully say (or
On 04/15/11 2:46 PM, Sarah wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 15:26, Fred Bauderfredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
I don't think it is bias. Giving extra attention to the global south is a
legitimate goal. Arabic, Spanish, Portuguese, French, English, and
Chinese are commonly spoken there. There are
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 16:30, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15 April 2011 23:24, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
Right, I understand that. But my question is whether an employment ad
in America could lawfully say (or imply), Ideally your native
language is not Urdu.
The
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 16:53, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15 April 2011 18:36, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 16:30, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
* Should you have been consulted?
But here we see something that happens on this list a lot.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 16:53, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15 April 2011 18:36, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 16:30, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
* Should you have been consulted?
But here we see something that happens on this list a lot.
On 04/15/11 4:02 PM, Sarah wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 16:53, Riskerrisker...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15 April 2011 18:36, Sarahslimvir...@gmail.com wrote
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 16:30, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
* Should you have been consulted?
But here we see something that
I feel your pain. Everything is funny as long as it happens to somebody else.
From
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Movement_Communications_Manager
REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS (Don't they know how to write without shouting?)
Exceptional English writing is critical for this role,
So nobody has any idea why things are the way they are? Will I have
to make a drawing?
Virgilio A. P. Machado (Vapmachado)
At 00:43 16-04-2011, you wrote:
It is a valid point about David's comment. Maybe us old hands have
become too accustomed to David's sarcasm. Other than that it seems to
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 16:16, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
Well, I would not be surprised to be wrong, but I don't think your legal
theory would be valid, after all the candidate fluent in Urdo may well be
an
It might be easier if you look at it as a numerical scale where native
speaker is a quality level at or near the top, and someone who speaks none of
or only a handful of words in the language is at the bottom. From Jay's
clarification:
Perhaps a more clear way to write this sentence would have
Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
So nobody has any idea why things are the way they are? Will I have
to make a drawing?
I would love a drawing.
MZMcBride
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At 03:49 16-04-2011, you wrote:
Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote:
So nobody has any idea why things are the way they are? Will I have
to make a drawing?
I would love a drawing.
MZMcBride
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Another quick note on the Movement Communications Manager posting that we
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