On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 22:39 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 08:48 +1000, Andrew Cowie wrote:
If keeping the costs down is a factor, then perhaps some attempt
should
be made to return the conference forward in the calendar a bit. Too
late for 2008, of course, but
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:00 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
Rodrigo Moya wrote:
I wouldn't mind having a joint skiing/hacking conference there :-)
Crazy idea (tell me if I've been smoking the wacky baccy):
Someone offers to host the Summit at the Summit, say in Utah or
Whistler? Travel
Hi Valek,
Valek Filippov wrote:
I would love an extra conference in Canada, for example. But the GNOME
User and Developer EUROPEAN Conference is ... well, European. Right?
Btw, why the Boston Summit is always in Boston?
It's not fair!
There are much better places for this event.
For
Some good jokes in this thread this morning :).
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 13:33 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
Seriously, I went once to a ski resort, and some doctors conference was
taking place in a hotel there, and I really think it would be a great
thing for hackfests (maybe not for a big
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 23:33 -0400, Clare So wrote:
As for me, the reason not pushing for Canada is that a GNOME community
in Canada is surprisingly non-existent. Sure, there's you, me, and
desrt. But that's pretty much it.
Is there anyone from Western Canada? You, me, desrt and Hub
Hi,
Rodrigo Moya wrote:
I wouldn't mind having a joint skiing/hacking conference there :-)
Crazy idea (tell me if I've been smoking the wacky baccy):
Someone offers to host the Summit at the Summit, say in Utah or
Whistler? Travel costs would be an issue, but fitting in some skiing
over a
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:00 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
Rodrigo Moya wrote:
I wouldn't mind having a joint skiing/hacking conference there :-)
Crazy idea (tell me if I've been smoking the wacky baccy):
Someone offers to host the Summit at the Summit, say in Utah or
Whistler? Travel
Hi,
Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
Whistler should work, yeah. I hear there's going to be a huge Firefox
summit in Whistler later this Summer. I may be attending, in which case
I'll check out the place. *BUT*, we already have Boston Summit scheduled
for October in Boston. Having another one just
Hi all,
Whistler should work, yeah. I hear there's going to be a huge Firefox
summit in Whistler later this Summer. I may be attending, in which case
I'll check out the place. *BUT*, we already have Boston Summit scheduled
for October in Boston. Having another one just a few months
On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 17:38 +0300, Quim Gil wrote:
...Being in Summer...
This has been mentioned elsewhere, but not in this thread: the middle of
summer is high season for air travel to Europe from North America and
elsewhere and as a result tickets are much more expensive.
Over the last 4
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 08:48 +1000, Andrew Cowie wrote:
Otherwise, if we're not worrying about budgets, then by all means.
European summers are lovely.
Or elsewhere since we are not worrying about budgets in this hypothesis.
Hub
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On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 08:48 +1000, Andrew Cowie wrote:
If keeping the costs down is a factor, then perhaps some attempt
should
be made to return the conference forward in the calendar a bit. Too
late for 2008, of course, but something we may want to consider for
2009.
GUADEC was pushed
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Amsterdam
Frankfurt
Paris
Brussels
Geneva
Milan
Helsinki, anyone?
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Le jeudi 24 avril 2008, à 17:14 +0300, Quim Gil a écrit :
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Amsterdam
Frankfurt
Paris
Brussels
Geneva
Milan
Helsinki, anyone?
I heard there's someone who organized a GUADEC living in Helsinki. Maybe
he can
Quim Gil wrote:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Amsterdam
Frankfurt
Paris
Brussels
Geneva
Milan
Helsinki, anyone?
Are you feeling like becoming our first recidivist?
Cheers,
Dave.
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Hi,
Johannes Schmid wrote:
Sorry, to step into this discussion, but I would really like to point
out that every part of the world may have a gnome conference, even an
important or *the* GNOME conference. But why can we keep GUADEC the
european conference?
If you want to do a GUAD*C at any
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quim Gil wrote:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Amsterdam
Frankfurt
Paris
Brussels
Geneva
Milan
Helsinki, anyone?
Are you feeling like becoming our
As for me, the reason not pushing for Canada is that a GNOME community
in Canada is surprisingly non-existent. Sure, there's you, me, and
desrt. But that's pretty much it.
Not that it changes anything, but I'm in Ottawa...
- Mike
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Amsterdam
Frankfurt
Paris
Brussels
Geneva
Milan
All major cities, major travel hubs in Europe, easy to get to, with many
university options.
Anyone in any of these places feel tempted?
Except Brussels, these cities have a good chance to be considered by
the KDE community.
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 23:33 -0400, Clare So wrote:
[...]
I agree with you, Behdad. There is no point in pushing for Canada.
When we had a W3C advisory committee meeting in Montreal in November
some 3 years ago it was one of the better attended meetings we'd ever
had (we = W3C).
There is
If there is not a strong KDE or Gnome community here, maybe we need
to fix that by having a conference?
That's exactly what I think!
LGM-2 in Montreal seems to be another good example.
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Originally coming from a country that definitely fits that bill too, I
don't appreciate being exclusive to people based on their government.
I agree, in a theoretical sense, but that isn't the issue here.
Moreover, where do you set the limit? What about China for example?
China is
I fully agree. We think that the actions of the gnome foundation has a
profound impact on the world, that the choice of venue is important.
That holding the conference in morocco lends the moroccian *regime*
credibility it does not deserve.
2008/4/22, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue,
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 22:20 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
I fully agree. We think that the actions of the gnome foundation has a
profound impact on the world, that the choice of venue is important.
That holding the conference in morocco lends the moroccian *regime*
credibility it does not
Hi everyone!
Sorry, to step into this discussion, but I would really like to point
out that every part of the world may have a gnome conference, even an
important or *the* GNOME conference. But why can we keep GUADEC the
european conference?
If you want to do a GUAD*C at any other place of the
quote who=Johannes Schmid
Sorry, to step into this discussion, but I would really like to point out
that every part of the world may have a gnome conference, even an
important or *the* GNOME conference. But why can we keep GUADEC the
european conference?
If you want to do a GUAD*C at any
El mié, 23-04-2008 a las 23:07 +0200, Johannes Schmid escribió:
Hi everyone!
Sorry, to step into this discussion, but I would really like to point
out that every part of the world may have a gnome conference, even an
important or *the* GNOME conference. But why can we keep GUADEC the
On 4/23/08, BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I fully agree. We think that the actions of the gnome foundation has a
profound impact on the world, that the choice of venue is important.
That holding the conference in morocco lends the moroccian *regime*
credibility it does not
This thread is getting quite off-topic now. Lets end this particular
sub-topic here. I'm sure if there's a Moroccan bid for '10 or '11, the
board of the time will consider it on fair grounds. That's all that
matters.
behdad
On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 00:18 +0200, Ali Sabil wrote:
On 4/23/08,
I might suggest that this is a completely unproductive discussion that
should go off-list until someone actually has a solid proposal on the
table from a politically/morally/ethically/whatever-ly questionable
regime. We've all got better things to do than to rehash potentially
important but
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 17:36 -0400, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
What I would like to see is proposals to host GUADEC in other places of
the world to be considered. There may be a bias to prefer European
locations because it's more practical, that seems reasonable; but at
some point someone could
quote who=Claudio Saavedra
I currently don't like the fact that no one can even consider working in
such a proposal.
I think it's possible, but there's little incentive to right now, because
it seems so unlikely that it would succeed. If there was a bid that might
succeed, it would be a cheap
Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009
==
The GNOME Foundation invites proposals to host GUADEC, the annual GNOME
conference, during the Summer of 2009. GUADEC is the biggest gathering
of GNOME users and developers and includes a three-day conference, the
annual general
Hi there,
As I'd love to see GUADEC (as well as Akademy) being hosted in North
Carolina, and as this is not an official bid, I was wondering if there
is anyone interested in helping/coaching me? I don't have any
experience with this kind of activity, but I do know a lot of people
and we have big
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 01:24:06PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
There are two main issues with having GUADEC in the US:
- The Big Pond. It's just more travel to fly everyone to the US.
- US visa. It's a real issue. It's not a predictable and fast
process like most European
Hi Behdad,
Thanks for the quick reply.
- US visa. It's a real issue. It's not a predictable and fast
process like most European countries are. It literally takes months to
get a US visa for those of us that need one. And many people going to
GUADEC need one.
Unfortunately you're
quote who=Thomas Thurman
Is the rule about having GUADEC in Europe rather than, say, in Bangalore
still in play, by the way?
The 'E' still stands for Europe, yeah. ;-)
- Jeff
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The two [separate] UIs are both
quote who=Jeff Waugh
quote who=Thomas Thurman
Is the rule about having GUADEC in Europe rather than, say, in Bangalore
still in play, by the way?
The 'E' still stands for Europe, yeah. ;-)
Aha, was this more in reference to the text of the CfH? In that case, it's a
minor disconnect
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 03:41 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Thomas Thurman
Is the rule about having GUADEC in Europe rather than, say, in
Bangalore
still in play, by the way?
The 'E' still stands for Europe, yeah. ;-)
Except that we have been advertising it as GUADEC, The GNOME
Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico
has less strict rules about visas? It is not hard to imagine that the
Americans might feel that it is a little unfair that guadec always is
in Europe. Couldn't there be two conferences?
2008/4/22, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:34 PM, BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico
has less strict rules about visas? It is not hard to imagine that the
Americans might feel that it is a little unfair that guadec always is
in
quote who=BJörn Lindqvist
Americans might feel that it is a little unfair that guadec always is in
Europe. Couldn't there be two conferences?
GUADEC and the Boston Summit. :-)
- Jeff
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Imagine a four
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Thomas Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's something I think might be useful:
If we had a list of where everyone attending aKademy and GUADEC will
come from (which might be decently approximated by seeing where they
came from last year), we can then
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:03 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
Except that we have been advertising it as GUADEC, The GNOME
Conference for the past couple of years. Maybe we should make that
official.
About GUADEC out of Europe, that's fine as long as the place is Ok for
travel. Bangalore
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About GUADEC out of Europe, that's fine as long as the place is Ok for
travel. Bangalore has the same problem that US has. Too far... That
said, I love to see GUADEC '11 in Morocco for example...
I wouldn't. GNOME
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 04:38 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
Americans might feel that it is a little unfair that guadec always
is in
Europe. Couldn't there be two conferences?
GUADEC and the Boston Summit. :-)
Except that we don't pay for travel to Boston Summit.
We are launching GNOME.Asia
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:43 -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:03 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
Except that we have been advertising it as GUADEC, The GNOME
Conference for the past couple of years. Maybe we should make that
official.
About GUADEC out of Europe,
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:38 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:34 PM, BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico
has less strict rules about visas? It is not hard to imagine that the
Americans might feel
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 19:03 +, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About GUADEC out of Europe, that's fine as long as the place is Ok for
travel. Bangalore has the same problem that US has. Too far... That
said, I love
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:38 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote:
I too would appreciate another North/Central/South America based
conference if GUADEC can't be moved across the pond occasionally.
However, I suspect that because the GNOME summit is held in Boston
every year we will have to make due.
Cool!
Proposed location for the first joint GUADEC/aKademy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_Center_of_the_Earth ;)
(Alternative, sunny locations come to mind though)
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Hubert Figuiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Note also that Summer is probably the
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 20:34 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico
has less strict rules about visas? It is not hard to imagine that the
Americans might feel that it is a little unfair that guadec always is
in Europe.
This American
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 15:43 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 20:34 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico
has less strict rules about visas? It is not hard to imagine that the
Americans might feel that it is a
Em Ter, 2008-04-22 às 12:13 -0700, Ted Gould escreveu:
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:38 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:34 PM, BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico
has less strict rules about visas?
Hey
On 4/22/08, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:38 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote:
I too would appreciate another North/Central/South America based
conference if GUADEC can't be moved across the pond occasionally.
However, I suspect that because the
Hi,
Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
For the first time we also invite proposals to hold GUADEC and Akademy,
the KDE community conference, at the same time, in the same location.
Proposals should detail plans for hosting up to 800 attendees, with
separate facilities available for Akademy and GUADEC
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Bruno Boaventura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Jonh Wendell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, It would be really, really, amazing!
GUADLAC, as Behdad suggested. A GNOME Conference in Americas, with the
same structure as
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 23:42 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
An aside: some of my preferred locations for GUADEC would be (planting
ideas in the heads of possible organisers):
Amsterdam
Frankfurt
Paris
Brussels
Geneva
Milan
FYI, Akademy is in Belgium this year.
Hub
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Germán Poó-Caamaño [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For what it is worth, we have discussed GUADLAC in previous years (I
think as far back as 2004, maybe 2003?) but it typically foundered on
travel costs, which were always unacceptably high for some large group
GNOME is People. Do you have any evidence that the Moroccan *people*
are opposed to the values GNOME stands for?
I think the Moroccan *people* are not the issue.
Those people have an oppressing
regime, ignore them is not a really compelling idea to me.
If the purpose of
- US visa. It's a real issue. It's not a predictable and fast
process like most European countries are. It literally takes months to
get a US visa for those of us that need one. And many people going to
GUADEC need one.
I think it would be a good thing for GNOME to make a
As for me, the reason not pushing for Canada is that a GNOME community
in Canada is surprisingly non-existent. Sure, there's you, me, and
desrt. But that's pretty much it.
Is there anyone from Western Canada? You, me, desrt and Hub are
living in the Eastern part of the country.
I agree
quote who=Clare So
Where in the world with the highest concentration of GNOME and KDE
community? This thread has so far been considering the GNOME community
only.
Both communities have their strongest presence in Europe.
- Jeff
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On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:57 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
GNOME is People. Do you have any evidence that the Moroccan *people*
are opposed to the values GNOME stands for?
I think the Moroccan *people* are not the issue.
Those people have an oppressing
regime, ignore them
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