Re: [fpc-devel] crossfpc?

2007-05-13 Thread Bisma Jayadi
If I do find something (I need to check my PC at work) then I'll send it in private. Thank you, Michael. :) -Bee- has Bee.ography at: http://beeography.wordpress.com ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.o

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 5/13/07, Micha Nelissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess that's Delphi 7 Enterprise with loading all possible components at startup ? So not entirely fair. ( Hear me: defending Delphi?? ;-) ) hehe... Your guess was correct. My Lazarus also has quite a few extra component suites installe

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Sun, 13 May 2007, schreef Peter Popov: > > Yes. The problem in this case is clear. Automated is deprecated andrarely > > used functionality. (like e.g. dynamic methods). > > Let me know if I can help in any way with automation RTTI compatibility? If > this feature is implemented (just the RT

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Peter Popov
developpers. On the other hand, say any stable fpc release should be able to compile (on win32), without trouble the entire VCL of say, delphi 2-5. I don't see why that is a focus point. It's a nice testsuite, but until it is free, there is no real benefit in it. Specially since the VCL-

Re: [fpc-devel] QT and FPC

2007-05-13 Thread Peter Popov
You can find binding here: http://andy.jgknet.de/oss/kylix/wiki/index.php/Qt3Clx The binding on the pascal side are quite nice. You will have troubles finding qtc (c binding for qt3). You most likely have to recompile yourself. Peter On Sun, 13 May 2007 06:11:37 -0500, ik <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [fpc-devel] Documentation questions

2007-05-13 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 13 May 2007, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: > Hallo, > > On 5/10/07, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Currently docs for 20 FCL units are generated, and the number is growing. > > > > I do not put empty docs on the web, that's a matter of policy. Either > > the uni

Re: [fpc-devel] Documentation questions

2007-05-13 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 13 May 2007, Vincent Snijders wrote: > Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schreef: > > Hallo, > > > > On 5/10/07, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Currently docs for 20 FCL units are generated, and the number is growing. > > > > > > I do not put empty docs on the web, that'

Re: [fpc-devel] QT and FPC

2007-05-13 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/13/07, Den Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Qt/Embedded binding is even easier to work with, due to the OO wrapper. But due to the overhead it did not seem usefull to me to create one for the LCL/Qt4 interface. I think it´s possible to have both. On the Symbian Port of Free Pascal I am

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > We still need to maintain some Delphi based code and use Delphi 7 for > that. Now on the exact same PC, Delphi 7 takes 25 seconds to start > up. Lazarus takes a mere 2 seconds. Lazarus is still far from being > slow an non-responsive!!! I guess that's Delphi 7 Enterpr

Re: [fpc-devel] QT and FPC

2007-05-13 Thread ik
Hi First of all Thank you. Here is my POC : program qt_poc; uses sysutils,qt4; var app : QApplicationH; window : QWidgetH; message_ : QLabelH; text : WideString; begin app := QApplication_create(@argc, argv); text := 'Hello World'; window := QWidget_create(nil, 1);

Re: [fpc-devel] Documentation questions

2007-05-13 Thread Vincent Snijders
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schreef: Hallo, On 5/10/07, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Currently docs for 20 FCL units are generated, and the number is growing. I do not put empty docs on the web, that's a matter of policy. Either the unit is documented completely, or it's not

Re: [fpc-devel] Documentation questions

2007-05-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 5/13/07, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, I would like to ask that docs are put on-line, even if there is no link from the website to them. If Michael doesn't want to budge with his documentation policy, I will be more that willing to generate the docs on a weekly o

Re: [fpc-devel] Documentation questions

2007-05-13 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Hallo, On 5/10/07, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Currently docs for 20 FCL units are generated, and the number is growing. I do not put empty docs on the web, that's a matter of policy. Either the unit is documented completely, or it's not documented at all. Are you sure this

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 13 May 2007, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 5/13/07, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Which was the exactly what I meant to express.. Needs more continuous > > > struggle from people with a direct interest to not let the improvement > > > rate > > > decrease. > > > > A

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 5/13/07, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which was the exactly what I meant to express.. Needs more continuous > struggle from people with a direct interest to not let the improvement rate > decrease. Agreed 100% ! Not all at once, please. There is plenty of room for enthous

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 13 May 2007, Marco van de Voort wrote: > > > > I also complained and complained about websnap and asp and php, and of > > > > course I also wrote some code > > > > that solved my problem there which is all FPC based, the poor old wiki, > > > > forum, and other utilities > > > > on my s

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Marco van de Voort
> > > I also complained and complained about websnap and asp and php, and of > > > course I also wrote some code > > > that solved my problem there which is all FPC based, the poor old wiki, > > > forum, and other utilities > > > on my site that need updating. Others choose the easy solution and

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 5/13/07, L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: folks agree with me.. many people on the pascal game devel BBS are saying Lazarus is becoming huge and slow. This one is funny! :-) I have used Delphi since D4 up till D7 in commercial development and switched to FPC and Lazarus about 2 years ago. I

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
> > I also complained and complained about websnap and asp and php, and of > > course I also wrote some code > > that solved my problem there which is all FPC based, the poor old wiki, > > forum, and other utilities > > on my site that need updating. Others choose the easy solution and use ASP

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Marco van de Voort
> > As far as I know, Lars is a FPC fan, and he merely wishes to express concern > > about some of the issues he has with FPC > > Yes I'm a fan. > > It's not just the issues that I alone have with FPC since I'm not even an > embedded programmer myself. IMHO this whole discussion has nothing to d

Re: [fpc-devel] crossfpc?

2007-05-13 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 13 May 2007, Bisma Jayadi wrote: > > Meanwhile, I'm sorry to say, we are almost halfway May, and we still > > haven't seen anything. Looking at the article posted here about the Delphi > > roadmap, I would say that Simon Kissel has decided to put his money on > > Codegear anyway (I assum

Re: [fpc-devel] crossfpc?

2007-05-13 Thread Bisma Jayadi
Meanwhile, I'm sorry to say, we are almost halfway May, and we still haven't seen anything. Looking at the article posted here about the Delphi roadmap, I would say that Simon Kissel has decided to put his money on Codegear anyway (I assume he's a businessman, so one cannot blame him for that). W

Re: [fpc-devel] crossfpc?

2007-05-13 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 13 May 2007, Bisma Jayadi wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to ask and try CrossFPC. Where can I download it? How is it status, > is it still alive? Does it support FPC 2.0.4 and Turbo Delphi Explorer? Does > is support LCL? TIA. You cannot download it. Due to copyright issues (it containe

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Luiz Americo Pereira Camara
Marco van de Voort wrote: Dani?l Mantione wrote: But I'll leave this up to the Lazarus team. They have talented developers, and I'm sure they are brainstorming about ideas to reduce the exe size. However, Lazarus developers do the engineering balancing too and weigh exe size against anyth

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Marco van de Voort
> Dani?l Mantione wrote: > > But I'll leave this up to the Lazarus team. They have talented developers, > > and I'm sure they are brainstorming about ideas to reduce the exe size. > > However, Lazarus developers do the engineering balancing too and weigh exe > > size against anything else. > >

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/12/07, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I am allowed mine and totally disagree with his statement about GUI's not being used on any other platform than Windows. And that FPC and Lazarus cannot be used for decent GUI applications. I disa

Re: [fpc-devel] QT and FPC

2007-05-13 Thread Den Jean
On Sunday 13 May 2007 09:39:48 Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: > Together with the bindings you can also find good examples, althougth > more examples are always good =) > > thanks, Please read and extend the FPC Qt4 Binding wiki: http://www.freepascal.org/wiki/index.php/Qt4_binding If you cr

Re: [fpc-devel] QT and FPC

2007-05-13 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Together with the bindings you can also find good examples, althougth more examples are always good =) thanks, -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-deve

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Luiz Americo Pereira Camara
Daniël Mantione wrote: Perhaps, a possible way out is to make the LCL more plug-inable. For example, the LCL needs to support many graphics formats, and the code ending up in the program has to be designed to support them all; you don't know what ends up in the resource files. As a solution you

[fpc-devel] sdlgraph

2007-05-13 Thread Evgeniy Ivanov
Hi! I have worked a bit with implementation. But just a bit... I'm not able to do anything before middle of June, but then I will do it. So, please, keep it for me. -- E.I. ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepasca

Re: [fpc-devel] QT and FPC

2007-05-13 Thread Giulio Bernardi
Is there any known to work binding for QT3 (or 4) that works without using Lazarus ? Yes: http://users.pandora.be/Jan.Van.hijfte/qtforfpc/fpcqt4.html bye, Giulio ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mai

[fpc-devel] crossfpc?

2007-05-13 Thread Bisma Jayadi
Hi all, I'd like to ask and try CrossFPC. Where can I download it? How is it status, is it still alive? Does it support FPC 2.0.4 and Turbo Delphi Explorer? Does is support LCL? TIA. -Bee- has Bee.ography at: http://beeography.wordpress.com ___ fpc

[fpc-devel] QT and FPC

2007-05-13 Thread ik
Hi All, I wish to create a proof of concept FPC code that shows how "easy" it is to use QT using FPC. The thing is, that I wish to do it in pure code without using Lazarus. Is there any known to work binding for QT3 (or 4) that works without using Lazarus ? Thanks, Ido -- http://ik.homelinux.o

Re: [fpc-devel] what fpc is good for?

2007-05-13 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Sat, 12 May 2007, schreef L: > > As far as I know, Lars is a FPC fan, and he merely wishes to express concern > > about some of the issues he has with FPC > > Yes I'm a fan. > > It's not just the issues that I alone have with FPC since I'm not even an > embedded programmer > myself. I'm pu