Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal]

On 2023-04-18 11:12, Elmar Haneke via fpc-pascal wrote:

Just my comments on IRC-Channels.

 .
 .

Thanks for your input, but as already suggested previously, everybody 
interested in this topic should preferably use the fpc-other mailing 
list to keep this one available for discussion related to use of FPC 
itself rather than associated communication channels.


Thanks

Tomas
(one of FPC mailing list moderators)
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Elmar Haneke via fpc-pascal]

Just my comments on IRC-Channels.

I did enter the rooms #fpc #lazarus #lazarus-ide #fpc-alt #fpc-dev just 
to see whats going on on these channels a few days before.


I have been contaced by johanna via direct talk asking some questions i 
I'm able programming pascal, something like how to bring numbers to 
worded form (with explicit annotation not o google), and what I did 
program in pascal before an if she can get a copy.


Strange/curious behavior at all.

On today I got the notice that I'm banned from #fpc - obvious reason: 
not to post


The Channels seem to be empty there is no traffic inside.

Elmar



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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Karl-Michael Schindler via fpc-pascal]

> Am 14.04.2023 um 12:00 schrieb fpc-pascal-requ...@lists.freepascal.org:
> 
> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 10:02:09 +0200
> From: Tomas Hajny 
> To: FPC-Pascal users discussions 
> Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?
> Message-ID: <4f120f5c01566199597f77a5abc25...@hajny.biz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> 
> I'm no IRC user either (and even less having any rights on the chat 
> platform), but I responded to the private message sent by her in the 
> forum and explained why I believe that her moderation style deserves 
> some reconsideration.
> 
> Tomas

I was at a similar point with her years ago on freenode. She user, me secondary 
operator. In the end, discussions with her turned out to be fruitless and a 
waste of time. Still, I appreciate your patience and honesty to give her a 
second chance. 

She proved to be one of the few persons, who manages to use up my patience. 

The creation of the alternate channels is probably the best way out of the 
situation.

Michael.

P.S. It is not my usual habit to blackmail other people. On the contrary.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal]

On 2023-04-14 09:43, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:


Hi,

 .
 .

I've been contacted as well by email.

I received a similar story, and after reading it I believe she (she
confirmed it is a female name) is sincere in her wish to keep the
channel free from trolls, so it appears to me (as an outsider, I am
not on IRC) she is simply a little overzealous in her moderation
activity.

I am not an IRC user, so I'll let Tomas handle the rest of the story.


I'm no IRC user either (and even less having any rights on the chat 
platform), but I responded to the private message sent by her in the 
forum and explained why I believe that her moderation style deserves 
some reconsideration.


Tomas
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote:


On 13 April 2023 22:08:58 +0200, "Vojtěch Čihák via fpc-pascal" 
 wrote:


Hi,


I'm almost fourteen years on the forum and a few years less on mailing lists 
and I never had a single problem.
I don't attend IRC so I can't say what's wrong there.
OTOH I read Joanna's comments on the forum and they are OK (to the topic; non 
conflict).


I've been contacted by Joanna using a private message on the forum. 
Apparently, she (assuming it's a female name) tries to do her best to

manage the channel and protect it from trolls, etc.  I'll try to clarify
to her why I believe that her actions don't match her intents in at least
some cases.


I've been contacted as well by email.

I received a similar story, and after reading it I believe she 
(she confirmed it is a female name) is sincere in her wish to keep 
the channel free from trolls, so it appears to me (as an outsider, 
I am not on IRC) she is simply a little overzealous in her moderation activity.


I am not an IRC user, so I'll let Tomas handle the rest of the story.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Steve Litt via fpc-pascal]

Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal said on Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:00:46 +0200
(CEST)


>Can we keep this discussion civil? Personal attacks and ridiculing
>someone is not the way to deal with disagreements.
>
>Charlie

Sorry. From now on I'll conform with the preceding.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal]

On 13 April 2023 22:08:58 +0200, "Vojtěch Čihák via fpc-pascal" 
 wrote:


Hi,

>I'm almost fourteen years on the forum and a few years less on mailing lists 
>and I never had a single problem.
>I don't attend IRC so I can't say what's wrong there.
>OTOH I read Joanna's comments on the forum and they are OK (to the topic; non 
>conflict).

I've been contacted by Joanna using a private message on the forum. Apparently, 
she (assuming it's a female name) tries to do her best to manage the channel 
and protect it from trolls, etc. I'll try to clarify to her why I believe that 
her actions don't match her intents in at least some cases.

Tomas.


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>> Od: "Karl-Michael Schindler via fpc-pascal" 
>> Komu: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org
>> Datum: 13.04.2023 18:49
>> Předmět: Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?
>> 
>
>...
>
>All this is completely in line with my past experience with Joanna on #fpc 
>during freenode times. I withdrew from the channels completely, because of her 
>activities. Therefore, I strongly suggest action regarding her operator status 
>of the fpc channel on libera.chat. Alternatively, ask for the removal of the 
>“official” status and a corresponding disclaimer or the channel altogether. 
>This recent example shows, that her self-centered and dictatorial actions as 
>operator harm fpc more than fpc benefits from her activities.
>
>Regards - Michael.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Vojtěch Čihák via fpc-pascal]

Hi,
 
I'm almost fourteen years on the forum and a few years less on mailing lists 
and I never had a single problem.
I don't attend IRC so I can't say what's wrong there.
OTOH I read Joanna's comments on the forum and they are OK (to the topic; non 
conflict).
 
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Datum: 13.04.2023 18:49
Předmět: Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?



...

All this is completely in line with my past experience with Joanna on #fpc 
during freenode times. I withdrew from the channels completely, because of her 
activities. Therefore, I strongly suggest action regarding her operator status 
of the fpc channel on libera.chat. Alternatively, ask for the removal of the 
“official” status and a corresponding disclaimer or the channel altogether. 
This recent example shows, that her self-centered and dictatorial actions as 
operator harm fpc more than fpc benefits from her activities.

Regards - Michael.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Karl-Michael Schindler via fpc-pascal]

> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 15:26:40 +0200
> From: Marc Weustink 
> To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org
> Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?
> Message-ID: <5efe8bfc-322b-52d1-ff16-2db276258...@dommelstein.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> On 13/04/2023 13:55, Rik van Kekem via fpc-pascal wrote:
>> Op 13-04-2023 om 12:53 schreef Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for checking, but well, I just got contacted by "Joanna" 
>>> privately on IRC, this is the chatlog:
>>> 
>> The following topic might be of interest. You can view it without 
>> registering.
>> https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,61328.0.html
>> 
>> There are more people who have the same problem with that IRC channel(s) 
>> and with 'Joanna'.
>> Especially the strict rules that are enforced.
>> (your chatlog doesn't stand alone, there are also multiple topics on the 
>> forum about this, besides the link given above.)
>> 
>> BTW. That IRC channel is not an official FPC/Lazarus channel.
>> (I think 'Joanna' is the founder of the channel and sole moderator there.)

Fits, to how I remember the course of action.

> #fpc and #lazarus were the official channels in the freenode times. 
> After freenode got abandoned, some active users started those channels 
> on libera. Soon after that I registered #lazarus as the official channel 
> for the lazarus project. No registration is done for the fpc channel (yet)
> As of today, Joanna is not a channel operator anymore on the lazarus 
> channel. She has been warned that the same could happen for the fpc channel.
> 
> Marc

All this is completely in line with my past experience with Joanna on #fpc 
during freenode times. I withdrew from the channels completely, because of her 
activities. Therefore, I strongly suggest action regarding her operator status 
of the fpc channel on libera.chat. Alternatively, ask for the removal of the 
“official” status and a corresponding disclaimer or the channel altogether. 
This recent example shows, that her self-centered and dictatorial actions as 
operator harm fpc more than fpc benefits from her activities.

Regards - Michael.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[geneb via fpc-pascal]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal wrote:


Hi,

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, geneb via fpc-pascal wrote:


On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Steve Litt via fpc-pascal wrote:


I bet this Joanna character is an active member of her Homeowners
Association.


If we can reach the server admin, force a nick change to "Joanna "
*rofl*


Can we keep this discussion civil? Personal attacks and ridiculing someone
is not the way to deal with disagreements.



But it IS the IRC way.  Just trying to stay era-appropriate. ;)

g.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal]

Hi,

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, geneb via fpc-pascal wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Steve Litt via fpc-pascal wrote:
>
> > I bet this Joanna character is an active member of her Homeowners
> > Association.
> >
> If we can reach the server admin, force a nick change to "Joanna "
> *rofl*

Can we keep this discussion civil? Personal attacks and ridiculing someone
is not the way to deal with disagreements.

Charlie

Ps: also, IRC drama on a mailing list about a Pascal compiler like it's
1998! Thanks for making me feel young again. :)
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[geneb via fpc-pascal]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal wrote:


Hi,

Is there an offical IRC channel for asking questions about the FreePascal 
compiler ?


I tried asking questions in #fpc on Libera Chat, but when I refused to upload 
the Pascal source code I was working with to a public place (since it is 
proprietary), I got banned from the channel by user "Joanna", with the reason 
that I should use the "forums" instead.


I got banned for replying, "It's none of your concern." when Joanna asked 
me what I was using FPC for...  So yeah.  Little Tin Hitler... *sigh*


I *think* There's a FreePascal Discord out there somewhere, but I can't 
check right now, sorry.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[geneb via fpc-pascal]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Steve Litt via fpc-pascal wrote:


I bet this Joanna character is an active member of her Homeowners
Association.

If we can reach the server admin, force a nick change to "Joanna " 
*rofl*


g.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Marc Weustink via fpc-pascal]

On 13/04/2023 13:55, Rik van Kekem via fpc-pascal wrote:

Op 13-04-2023 om 12:53 schreef Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal:


Thanks for checking, but well, I just got contacted by "Joanna" 
privately on IRC, this is the chatlog:


The following topic might be of interest. You can view it without 
registering.

https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,61328.0.html

There are more people who have the same problem with that IRC channel(s) 
and with 'Joanna'.

Especially the strict rules that are enforced.
(your chatlog doesn't stand alone, there are also multiple topics on the 
forum about this, besides the link given above.)


BTW. That IRC channel is not an official FPC/Lazarus channel.
(I think 'Joanna' is the founder of the channel and sole moderator there.)


#fpc and #lazarus were the official channels in the freenode times. 
After freenode got abandoned, some active users started those channels 
on libera. Soon after that I registered #lazarus as the official channel 
for the lazarus project. No registration is done for the fpc channel (yet)
As of today, Joanna is not a channel operator anymore on the lazarus 
channel. She has been warned that the same could happen for the fpc channel.


Marc
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal]

Hi Sven,

On 4/13/23 14:12, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote:
Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal > schrieb am Do., 13. Apr. 2023, 
12:53:


I ask the #fpc Libera.Chat IRC administrators (if they are listening
here) to revoke channel operator status for user "Joanna".


I've already seen from others that Joanna has a rather dictatorship-like 
approach to her moderation.


Problem is none of us other devs have a real interest anymore in IRC 
since the move from freenode.


So suggested locations for support are the mailing lists and the forum.



Ok, as long as people are aware of the fact that this is going on, I 
feel I've done what I can to fulfill my responsibilities.


I'll stick to using the mailing list only then.

Regards,
Jacob
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Rik van Kekem via fpc-pascal]

Op 13-04-2023 om 12:53 schreef Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal:


Thanks for checking, but well, I just got contacted by "Joanna" 
privately on IRC, this is the chatlog:


The following topic might be of interest. You can view it without 
registering.

https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,61328.0.html

There are more people who have the same problem with that IRC channel(s) 
and with 'Joanna'.

Especially the strict rules that are enforced.
(your chatlog doesn't stand alone, there are also multiple topics on the 
forum about this, besides the link given above.)


BTW. That IRC channel is not an official FPC/Lazarus channel.
(I think 'Joanna' is the founder of the channel and sole moderator there.)

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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Sven Barth via fpc-pascal]

Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal  schrieb am
Do., 13. Apr. 2023, 12:53:

> I ask the #fpc Libera.Chat IRC administrators (if they are listening
> here) to revoke channel operator status for user "Joanna".
>

I've already seen from others that Joanna has a rather dictatorship-like
approach to her moderation.

Problem is none of us other devs have a real interest anymore in IRC since
the move from freenode.

So suggested locations for support are the mailing lists and the forum.

Regards,
Sven

>
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Jer Haan via fpc-pascal]

I suggest to subscribe to the Lazarus/ Fpc forum. It’s very easy.
You don’t have to ask questions if you don’t want, and you can still learn a 
lot from all questions and answers posted.
And no one is horassing anyone…

https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?action=forum

Cheers
J

Van: fpc-pascal  namens Steve Litt via 
fpc-pascal 
Verzonden: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:28:35 PM
Aan: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org 
CC: Steve Litt 
Onderwerp: Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

I bet this Joanna character is an active member of her Homeowners
Association.

I verified that there is an operator named Joanna on #fpc on
Libera.Chat.

The power-hungry kind of behavior exhibited by Joanna is bad for the
channel and therefore bad for the project. In another post Jacob
mentioned that Joanna had kicked him from several other channels on
which he had done nothing. This is inexcusable. I assume now that I've
written this I'll meet the same fate. I'm rethinking my use of FPC and
Lazarus. What good is software if you can't get support?

SteveT


Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal said on Thu, 13 Apr 2023 12:53:31 +0200

>Hi Tomas,
>
>On 4/13/23 11:39, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote:
>
>
>
>> Just FYI - I don't see anybody having name "Joanna" among people
>> subscribed to this mailing list, and nobody like that has been
>> considerably active here in the last years as far as my memory
>> serves correctly. Obviously, the address and/or name may be
>> completely different from the IRC nickname, thus it doesn't mean
>> that you wouldn't get the response here for sure. I can't check the
>> list of people subscribed to FPC forum, the person may be active
>> there.
>
>Thanks for checking, but well, I just got contacted by "Joanna"
>privately on IRC, this is the chatlog:
>
>> *** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 13 12:35:45 2023
>>
>> [Joanna has address uid57...@id-57472.lymington.irccloud.com]
>> Apr 13 12:35:45 I advised you to go to forums where
>> you could get some help. Did you ask your question in forums yet?
>> Apr 13 12:37:36 Your question in fpc was already
>> answered. Please Ask your next question in forums and provide a link
>> Apr 13 12:39:26  Hi. No, I prefer mailinglist and IRC, not
>> forums. Apr 13 12:39:59 Why do you dislike the
>> forums? Apr 13 12:40:33  I already have 2 ways of
>> communication, I don't need a third, where I have to register etc.
>> Apr 13 12:40:45  Now why the hell do you ban people for
>> asking questions ??? Apr 13 12:41:01 How long have
>> you used irc ? I’ve never seen you before Apr 13 12:41:23 
>> And why do you kick people because they are being silent ??? Apr 13
>> 12:41:34  I don't know, more than 10 years Apr 13 12:41:44
>> If you refuse to ask your questions in forums we
>> have nothing more to discuss Apr 13 12:41:48  And I have
>> never been kicked out of a channel for being silent Apr 13 12:42:06
>> Not my problem Apr 13 12:42:26  Fine, I'll
>> try to contact the IRC admins in the mailing list and get your admin
>> rights revoked then Apr 13 12:42:47 I know who you
>> are  ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 13 12:42:56 2023
>
>Now I'm also banned from #lazarus, the reason is "harrassment by pm".
>
>I ask the #fpc Libera.Chat IRC administrators (if they are listening
>here) to revoke channel operator status for user "Joanna".
>
>Regards,
>Jacob
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Steve Litt via fpc-pascal]

I bet this Joanna character is an active member of her Homeowners
Association.

I verified that there is an operator named Joanna on #fpc on
Libera.Chat.

The power-hungry kind of behavior exhibited by Joanna is bad for the
channel and therefore bad for the project. In another post Jacob
mentioned that Joanna had kicked him from several other channels on
which he had done nothing. This is inexcusable. I assume now that I've
written this I'll meet the same fate. I'm rethinking my use of FPC and
Lazarus. What good is software if you can't get support?

SteveT


Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal said on Thu, 13 Apr 2023 12:53:31 +0200

>Hi Tomas,
>
>On 4/13/23 11:39, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote:
>
>
>
>> Just FYI - I don't see anybody having name "Joanna" among people 
>> subscribed to this mailing list, and nobody like that has been 
>> considerably active here in the last years as far as my memory
>> serves correctly. Obviously, the address and/or name may be
>> completely different from the IRC nickname, thus it doesn't mean
>> that you wouldn't get the response here for sure. I can't check the
>> list of people subscribed to FPC forum, the person may be active
>> there. 
>
>Thanks for checking, but well, I just got contacted by "Joanna" 
>privately on IRC, this is the chatlog:
>
>> *** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 13 12:35:45 2023
>> 
>> [Joanna has address uid57...@id-57472.lymington.irccloud.com]
>> Apr 13 12:35:45 I advised you to go to forums where
>> you could get some help. Did you ask your question in forums yet?
>> Apr 13 12:37:36 Your question in fpc was already
>> answered. Please Ask your next question in forums and provide a link
>> Apr 13 12:39:26  Hi. No, I prefer mailinglist and IRC, not
>> forums. Apr 13 12:39:59 Why do you dislike the
>> forums? Apr 13 12:40:33  I already have 2 ways of
>> communication, I don't need a third, where I have to register etc.
>> Apr 13 12:40:45  Now why the hell do you ban people for
>> asking questions ??? Apr 13 12:41:01 How long have
>> you used irc ? I’ve never seen you before Apr 13 12:41:23 
>> And why do you kick people because they are being silent ??? Apr 13
>> 12:41:34  I don't know, more than 10 years Apr 13 12:41:44
>> If you refuse to ask your questions in forums we
>> have nothing more to discuss Apr 13 12:41:48  And I have
>> never been kicked out of a channel for being silent Apr 13 12:42:06
>> Not my problem Apr 13 12:42:26  Fine, I'll
>> try to contact the IRC admins in the mailing list and get your admin
>> rights revoked then Apr 13 12:42:47 I know who you
>> are  ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 13 12:42:56 2023   
>
>Now I'm also banned from #lazarus, the reason is "harrassment by pm".
>
>I ask the #fpc Libera.Chat IRC administrators (if they are listening 
>here) to revoke channel operator status for user "Joanna".
>
>Regards,
>Jacob
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal]

Hi,


Now I'm also banned from #lazarus, the reason is "harrassment by pm".

I ask the #fpc Libera.Chat IRC administrators (if they are listening 
here) to revoke channel operator status for user "Joanna".




I'm now also banned from #pascal, Libera.Chat, reason "trolling".

*sigh*

/Jacob
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal]

Hi Tomas,

On 4/13/23 11:39, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote:



Just FYI - I don't see anybody having name "Joanna" among people 
subscribed to this mailing list, and nobody like that has been 
considerably active here in the last years as far as my memory serves 
correctly. Obviously, the address and/or name may be completely 
different from the IRC nickname, thus it doesn't mean that you wouldn't 
get the response here for sure. I can't check the list of people 
subscribed to FPC forum, the person may be active there.




Thanks for checking, but well, I just got contacted by "Joanna" 
privately on IRC, this is the chatlog:


*** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 13 12:35:45 2023   
 
[Joanna has address uid57...@id-57472.lymington.irccloud.com]
Apr 13 12:35:45 I advised you to go to forums where you could get some help. Did you ask your question in forums yet?
Apr 13 12:37:36 Your question in fpc was already answered. Please Ask your next question in forums and provide a link
Apr 13 12:39:26  Hi. No, I prefer mailinglist and IRC, not forums.
Apr 13 12:39:59 Why do you dislike the forums?   
Apr 13 12:40:33  I already have 2 ways of communication, I don't need a third, where I have to register etc.  
Apr 13 12:40:45  Now why the hell do you ban people for asking questions ???  
Apr 13 12:41:01 How long have you used irc ? I’ve never seen you before  
Apr 13 12:41:23  And why do you kick people because they are being silent ??? 
Apr 13 12:41:34  I don't know, more than 10 years 
Apr 13 12:41:44 If you refuse to ask your questions in forums we have nothing more to discuss
Apr 13 12:41:48  And I have never been kicked out of a channel for being silent   

Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Christo Crause via fpc-pascal]

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 11:39 AM Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal <
fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org> wrote:

> On 2023-04-13 11:23, Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jacob,
>
>   .
>   .
> > Ok, maybe this "Joanna" is on this mailing list and would care to
> > elaborate more why I got banned ?
> >
> > The same "Joanna" also kicked me out of the channel a couple of days
> > ago with the reason that "we don't allow lurkers", since I was
> > inactive in the chat.
>
> Just FYI - I don't see anybody having name "Joanna" among people
> subscribed to this mailing list, and nobody like that has been
> considerably active here in the last years as far as my memory serves
> correctly. Obviously, the address and/or name may be completely
> different from the IRC nickname, thus it doesn't mean that you wouldn't
> get the response here for sure. I can't check the list of people
> subscribed to FPC forum, the person may be active there.
>
> Tomas
> (one of FPC mailing list moderators)
>

Most probably user Joanna on the Lazarus/FPC forum:
https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=64282
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal]

On 2023-04-13 11:23, Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal wrote:


Hi Jacob,

 .
 .

Ok, maybe this "Joanna" is on this mailing list and would care to
elaborate more why I got banned ?

The same "Joanna" also kicked me out of the channel a couple of days
ago with the reason that "we don't allow lurkers", since I was
inactive in the chat.


Just FYI - I don't see anybody having name "Joanna" among people 
subscribed to this mailing list, and nobody like that has been 
considerably active here in the last years as far as my memory serves 
correctly. Obviously, the address and/or name may be completely 
different from the IRC nickname, thus it doesn't mean that you wouldn't 
get the response here for sure. I can't check the list of people 
subscribed to FPC forum, the person may be active there.


Tomas
(one of FPC mailing list moderators)
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal]

Hi Michael,

On 4/13/23 11:17, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal wrote:



On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal wrote:


Hi,

Is there an offical IRC channel for asking questions about the 
FreePascal compiler ?


I tried asking questions in #fpc on Libera Chat, but when I refused to 
upload the Pascal source code I was working with to a public place 
(since it is proprietary), I got banned from the channel by user 
"Joanna", with the reason that I should use the "forums" instead.


The #fpc on Libera chat is the only 'official' chat that I am aware of.

It seems a bit strange that you would be banned for refusing to share 
source
code which is proprietary. I don't know who uses the nick Joanna, so I 
can't

say whether it is someone of the FPC team that banned you.



Ok, maybe this "Joanna" is on this mailing list and would care to 
elaborate more why I got banned ?


The same "Joanna" also kicked me out of the channel a couple of days ago 
with the reason that "we don't allow lurkers", since I was inactive in 
the chat.


Regards,
Jacob
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Re: [fpc-pascal] IRC channel for FreePascal support ?

[Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023, Jacob Kroon via fpc-pascal wrote:


Hi,

Is there an offical IRC channel for asking questions about the FreePascal 
compiler ?


I tried asking questions in #fpc on Libera Chat, but when I refused to upload 
the Pascal source code I was working with to a public place (since it is 
proprietary), I got banned from the channel by user "Joanna", with the reason 
that I should use the "forums" instead.


The #fpc on Libera chat is the only 'official' chat that I am aware of.

It seems a bit strange that you would be banned for refusing to share source
code which is proprietary. I don't know who uses the nick Joanna, so I can't
say whether it is someone of the FPC team that banned you.

Michael.
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