RE: Framers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2

2006-01-05 Thread Patricia Carmel
Hi, When I place the cursor in a paragraph, its tag name should be displayed in the Tags dropdown list - at least, that's what it always did in previous versions. I'm now using FM 7.1 and only rarely does the tag name change to reflect the new tag. Has anyone else encountered this? TIA.

Docbook and Frame 7.2

2006-01-05 Thread John Pitt
After successfully avoiding structured Frame for the last 14 or 15 years, I now have a client who wants me to get DocBook xml produced from his product's code into Frame. The end result is to be used for a number of manuals and pushed through WebWorks ePublisher Pro. While my reservations

re: FM7.x incorrect pgf display (was: RE: Framers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2)

2006-01-05 Thread Shlomo Perets
Patricia, You wrote: When I place the cursor in a paragraph, its tag name should be displayed in the Tags dropdown list - at least, that's what it always did in previous versions. I'm now using FM 7.1 and only rarely does the tag name change to reflect the new tag. Has anyone else

RE: Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
Hi Bernard Thanks for ultra-rapid and comprehensive response, and Yves Barbion, Paul Wilbraham and John Posada too. Structure doesn't seem quite so scary with you guys around ;-) I think the big issue is to know what the structure of this is. For example, do you have something like: Fig

Re: Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Paul Wilbraham
Steve Whatever is contained within the anchored frame is isolated from the main structured flow. I suggest you take the figure title element out of the anchored frame and format it as a paragraph. For example, if you used the following structure: Figure Graphic Title The Figure

RE: Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
Steve wrote: Thanks for ultra-rapid and comprehensive response, and Yves Barbion, Paul Wilbraham and John Posada too. Structure doesn't seem quite so scary with you guys around ;-) Bernard: no problem. Glad to be of help. Steve: Well, the slate's bare at present, as I am writing the EDD

Re: Line breaks and figure titles in structure

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:15 pm -0500 5/1/06, Bernard Aschwanden wrote: The easiest solution is to set up the EDD to support everything... In the EDD define something like this: Figure Caption, Image Caption TEXT Image code for image Then attach paragraph formatting to the caption however

RE: Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 9:34 am -0800 5/1/06, John Posada wrote: What I interpreted differently in Steve's post was him putting the anchor at the end of a paragraph, then trying to apply the attribute to the whole paragraph to control the attribute of the anchored frame. My approach had the anchored from divorced

RE: Docbook and Frame 7.2

2006-01-05 Thread John Sgammato
Does anyone know if there is a single procedure-oriented book that describes how to migrate a typical Unstructured FrameMaker manual (book file, chapters, Toc, etc) to Structured FrameMaker using DocBook and FrameMaker 7.2? I have a whole slew of assorted docs with a ton of information on

RE: Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread John Posada
to that. I see know what you are suggesting (separate para tags for the figure title and the frame anchor). If the frame anchor paragraph is made tiny, it looks as if you've selected only the anchored frame. Don't play around with the paragraph sizing. Select the image and press, in

Framers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2

2006-01-05 Thread Patricia Carmel
Hi, When I place the cursor in a paragraph, its tag name should be displayed in the Tags dropdown list - at least, that's what it always did in previous versions. I'm now using FM 7.1 and only rarely does the tag name change to reflect the new tag. Has anyone else encountered this? TIA.

Docbook and Frame 7.2

2006-01-05 Thread John Pitt
After successfully avoiding structured Frame for the last 14 or 15 years, I now have a client who wants me to get DocBook xml produced from his product's code into Frame. The end result is to be used for a number of manuals and pushed through WebWorks ePublisher Pro. While my reservations

FM7.x incorrect pgf display (was: RE: Framers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2)

2006-01-05 Thread Shlomo Perets
Patricia, You wrote: > When I place the cursor in a paragraph, its tag name should be displayed > in the Tags dropdown list - at least, that's what it always did in > previous versions. I'm now using FM 7.1 and only rarely does the tag > name change to reflect the new tag. Has anyone else

Framemaker and source control (Continuus)

2006-01-05 Thread GILLIOTTE Valérie
Hello, Our development team uses Continuus source control software. They would like the tech pub team to use it to. I thougt that Continuus was aimed at developers rather than tech writers ... Is there anyone with experience of that tool with Framemaker ? Thanks for any input on that matter.

Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
I am currently placing figure titles in a text frame within the figure's anchored frame to lock the two in the required relative positions. I cannot see that it is possible, however, to specify this in an EDD. Is there any way of doing this, perhaps by somehow automatically inserting a named

Framers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2

2006-01-05 Thread Alan Quirt
> Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:59:55 +0100 > From: david > Subject: RE: Framemaker to Apple's Pages ... > > I got another follow-up from Apple today: > > At 09.33 -0800 06-01-04, Apple Developer Bug Reporting > wrote/06-01-04, 09.33 -0800 skrev Apple Developer Bug Reporting >> Hello

Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
I think the big issue is to know what the structure of this is. For example, do you have something like: Widget Illustration In which case you can format the FigTitle as you see fit. However, the FigImage may appear weird (at first) if you then Esc m p the thing (hope that makes sense). I

Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Yves Barbion
Hello Steve, you could also encapsulate the graphic in a dedicated table, for example a table which consists of 2 rows (and which has no ruling): a heading row for the graphic itself and a body row for the figure title. This will give you more control over the "relative positions", but also

Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread John Posada
> > You can use the keep with next/prev features to > > ensure the caption and image stay together. > > Sorry: which 'next/prev' features are you referring to? The > para-tag level ones, whether implemented in a tag or an element > definition, won't keep a para and an anchored frame together,

Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 7:30 am -0800 5/1/06, John Posada wrote: > > Sorry: which 'next/prev' features are you referring to? The >> para-tag level ones, whether implemented in a tag or an element >> definition, won't keep a para and an anchored frame together, > >It will if you apply a paragraph style to the anchored

Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 8:01 am -0800 5/1/06, John Posada wrote: > > How? Surely the style is applied to the paragraph that >> contains the frame's anchor, not to the frame itself? > >No...I place the cursor immediately after the anchored frome, then >hold down my shift key as I cursor one space to the left. The whole

Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread John Posada
Hi, Fred...never said it didn't. After all, it is a paragraph tag, so it must be a paragraph. However, in my case, my achored from is designated as "at insertion point" and I shrinkwrap all my graphics (esc m p). To me, it doesn't matter that it is a paragraph attribute as the graphic is the only

Docbook and Frame 7.2

2006-01-05 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 06:45 AM 1/5/2006, Bernard Aschwanden wrote: >If you are dealing with docbook then I strongly suggest starting with >read/write rules that knock out the 8317 elements you don't need and keeps >the stuff you find useful. I also found a ton of the attributes to be >overkill and dropped them as

Line breaks and figure titles in structure

2006-01-05 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
The easiest solution is to set up the EDD to support everything... In the EDD define something like this: Figure Caption, Image Caption Image code for image Then attach paragraph formatting to the caption however you want, but add a prefix of \r to put a line break

Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
Steve wrote: Thanks for ultra-rapid and comprehensive response, and Yves Barbion, Paul Wilbraham and John Posada too. Structure doesn't seem quite so scary with you guys around ;-) Bernard: no problem. Glad to be of help. Steve: Well, the slate's bare at present, as I am writing the EDD

Line breaks and figure titles in structure

2006-01-05 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
Oops. Meant a suffix... See my other email for the details. Then attach paragraph formatting to the caption however you want, but add a Prefix of \r to put a line break at the end of the paragraph.

Line breaks and figure titles in structure

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:15 pm -0500 5/1/06, Bernard Aschwanden wrote: >The easiest solution is to set up the EDD to support everything... > >In the EDD define something like this: > >Figure > Caption, Image > >Caption > > >Image > code for image > > >Then attach paragraph formatting to the

Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 9:34 am -0800 5/1/06, John Posada wrote: >What I interpreted differently in Steve's post was him putting the >anchor at the end of a paragraph, then trying to apply the attribute >to the whole paragraph to control the attribute of the anchored >frame. My approach had the anchored from divorced

Line breaks and figure titles in structure

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:36 pm -0500 5/1/06, Bernard Aschwanden wrote: >Oops. Meant a suffix... See my other email for the details. > >Then attach paragraph formatting to the caption however you want, but add a > > >Prefix > > >of \r to put a line break at the end of the paragraph. Well, I was about to say... ;-)

Docbook and Frame 7.2

2006-01-05 Thread John Sgammato
Does anyone know if there is a single procedure-oriented book that describes how to migrate a typical Unstructured FrameMaker manual (book file, chapters, Toc, etc) to Structured FrameMaker using DocBook and FrameMaker 7.2? I have a whole slew of assorted docs with a ton of information on

Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

2006-01-05 Thread John Posada
> to that. I see know what you are suggesting (separate > para tags for the figure title and the frame anchor). > If the frame anchor paragraph is made tiny, it looks > as if you've selected only the anchored frame. Don't play around with the paragraph sizing. Select the image and press, in

Docbook and Frame 7.2

2006-01-05 Thread Robert Kern
I'd buy it! -bob Robert Kern President, TIPS Technical Publishing, Inc. 108 E. Main Street, Suite 4 Carrboro, NC 27510 www.technicalpublishing.com bob at technicalpublishing.com 919-933-2629 phone and fax John Sgammato wrote: >Does anyone know if there is a single procedure-oriented book

Extra line spaces in imported XML

2006-01-05 Thread Laura Sponhour
Hi. I am trying to import our data model, which is generated and saved as XML, into FrameMaker. I created a structured application, complete with DTD and template. The process works, but for some reason a hard return appears after every element. If I open the Structured View, I can see a

Sorting tables

2006-01-05 Thread Doug
The Sort command in my Table dropdown menu is grayed out. No matter what I do I can't make it available for use. Is there something simple that I'm forgetting, or do I need to reinstall Frame? I use Frame 7.0p578 on Win2K. Thanks, Doug

Sorting tables

2006-01-05 Thread Lester C. Smalley
I'll ask the obvious question - is your insertion point inside a table? On Thursday, January 05, 2006 04:54 PM, Doug wrote: | The Sort command in my Table dropdown menu is grayed out. No | matter what I do I can't make it available for use. Is there | something simple that I'm forgetting, or

Sorting tables

2006-01-05 Thread Doug
Yes, my insertion point is inside the table. When I do it on my co-worker's PCs, sort is available for use. When I do it on mine, it remains grayed out. --Doug > I'll ask the obvious question - is your insertion point inside a table?

Sorting tables

2006-01-05 Thread Combs, Richard
Doug wrote: > Yes, my insertion point is inside the table. When I do it on > my co-worker's PCs, sort is available for use. When I do it > on mine, it remains grayed out. Grasping a different straw: Did you move, delete, or rename tablesort.dll? (It should be in the $FMHOME\fminit\Plugins

Extra line spaces in imported XML

2006-01-05 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
Check if the XML is tab delimited for indents. If so, try to blow them away and see what that does... Bernard -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com] On