RE: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Gillian Flato
John, If you can get the money to do it, hire Suite Solutions (http://www.suite-sol.com/) to write the EDDs and style sheets (xsl-fo and xslt) for you. Instead of struggling with it, pulling your hair out, and getting freustated, let the pros do it. Your manuals and help files will look

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-01 Thread John Sgammato
Remembering Gillian's original question: Has anyone used TCS v4.x as a complete DITA solution? Are you liking it? Is it better or worse than using, for example, XMetal or Oxygen with 3rd-party scripts, etc. That's the path I am setting down today. I would very much appreciate experiences and

Re: Confluence 4 export: the one feature that would justify my upgrading from FM10

2012-12-01 Thread Robert Lauriston
Atlassian eventually documented the storage format: https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF43/Confluence+Storage+Format Currently, the main limitation of the storage format is that there are no tools for exporting or importing it, only a couple of APIs someone could use to write such

Re: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Robert Lauriston
What other tools did you consider? If I had carte blanche, I'd probably use Confluence or MindTouch TCS. Have you done DITA with FrameMaker before? On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:25 PM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com wrote: I just started a new job at a software startup. I have basically a

Re: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread John Sgammato
Thanks Nadine! Yes, the existing product documentation was authored in oxygen in India. I don't have good access to those resources, but I have the DITA files. I have to make them look presentable, and then improve the quality of the writing, fill in gaps, etc. So I have no legacy FM content,

Re: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread John Sgammato
I made great progress today. I was able to open the DITA files and get them pretty consistent with new master pages, etc. I see two issues right now that I cannot figure out: * I want to get rid of many, many paragraph formats that I won't need, but I don't know if it is safe to do that, or if

FM10: how to embed a *.swf movie

2012-12-01 Thread info
Hi All, I am a new member of this list, so I am not familiar with it. Please bear with me, for the time being, if I do something wrong. I have now one question: we have received from one of our Client a manual in FM10, that has been localised, so now we have to typeset the localised manuals.

RE: What is a PI marker or programming instruction marker

2012-12-01 Thread David Artman
Sure... once we own it. ;) It's a big enough team that procurement would want to negotiation for multiple licenses. And that mean Q1. --- Thanks to Jeremy's generous help and instruction, I now know what I would have to do to deliver with D2G: maintain two file sets. I tried adding the

Re: FrameMaker - online help solution

2012-12-01 Thread Ben Allums
On 11/28/2012 12:53 PM, Lynn Gold wrote: I have a bunch of FrameMaker 7 files that currently go through WebWorks 2003 to get turned into online help. One of the sticking points of moving them to the current version of FrameMaker is getting an online help solution that will work with special

Re: What is a PI marker or programming instruction marker

2012-12-01 Thread Robert Lauriston
I don't see any mention of Oxygen in that thread. On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith jer...@omsys.com wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 06:51:20 -0500, Jim Owens I think he may have overstated the case. You can get CHM output from oXygen with a few mouse clicks, and you can easily

RE: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi John, In a structured FrameMaker document, the users don't deal directly with paragraph (character, table) formats anyway, so there is no practical reason to delete any. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From:

RE: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 19:24 -0500 29/11/12, John Sgammato wrote: * I want to get rid of many, many paragraph formats that I won't need, but I don't know if it is safe to do that, or if it will break something. I'm pretty green on structured as well (one project to date, but it was quite a biggie). While building

Re: What is a PI marker or programming instruction marker

2012-12-01 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:21:18 -0800, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I don't see any mention of Oxygen in that thread. Oxygen uses the DITA-OT for output, like most others, so it was directly applicable to Oxygen whether the editor used was Oxygen or not. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at

Re: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread John Sgammato
I have not done DITA with FM before, but I seem to be learning fast (despite the seeming utter randomness of related documentation - lots of reference info, lots of specific procedures, but no single Here's the procedure to build a user guide in a DITA environment doc). I got into a project with

Re: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread John Sgammato
But surely somehow the para tags get mapped to elements for PDF output? When I publish a procedure to PDF, suppose I want the steps to have 0pt above, 6pt after, etc - the stuff I usually set up in the paragraph designer. How do the elements get that information en route to becoming a PDF? I want

Re: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Writer
But surely somehow the para tags get mapped to elements for PDF output?  Forget about formatting while you author. Learn to separate creating content from formatting. When I publish a procedure to PDF, suppose I want the steps to have 0pt above, 6pt after, etc - the stuff I usually set up in

Re: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Scott Prentice
John... The mapping from elements and their context happens in the structure application's template (which contains an EDD). The EDD contains element definitions, which in turn contain context rules. The context rules specify the formatting (paragraph and character styles, or other specified

Re: greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Writer
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greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 19:24 -0500 29/11/12, John Sgammato wrote: >* I want to get rid of many, many paragraph formats that I won't need, but I >don't know if it is safe to do that, or if it will break something. I'm pretty green on structured as well (one project to date, but it was quite a biggie). While

What is a "PI marker" or "programming instruction marker"

2012-12-01 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:21:18 -0800, Robert Lauriston wrote: >I don't see any mention of Oxygen in that thread. Oxygen uses the DITA-OT for output, like most others, so it was directly applicable to Oxygen whether the editor used was Oxygen or not. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.

greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread John Sgammato
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greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread John Sgammato
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greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Writer
>But surely somehow the para tags get mapped to elements for PDF output?? Forget about formatting while you author. Learn to separate creating content from formatting. >When I publish a procedure to PDF, suppose I want the steps to have 0pt above, >6pt after, etc - the stuff I usually set up

greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Scott Prentice
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greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Writer
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greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread John Sgammato
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greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread John Sgammato
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greenfield and new structure

2012-12-01 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi John, In a structured FrameMaker document, the users don't deal directly with paragraph (character, table) formats anyway, so there is no practical reason to delete any. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 rick at frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: