Book is not self-consistent

2012-12-12 Thread Rob Shell
Hi Framers: I am getting this message Book is not self-consistent Upon generation of indexes and TOC of an unstructured document (9,350 pp). I have found Verner's post of 2009 in which he claims that all he had to do was to disable track changes to solve the problem. This did not work for me. I

Re: Cross-reference to a previous file

2012-12-12 Thread Lin Sims
It does, actually, but since we make sure that the text is black, it doesn't LOOK like it's clickable. People are so accustomed to links being blue and/or underlined that they never think to hover over text that looks like all the other text. Social engineering at its finest. ;-) -- Lin Sims On

RE: Book is not self-consistent

2012-12-12 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
I'd be checking if it was the ToC or the IX that was causing it to choke first. Then I would create a dummy book and gradually add file by file (generating the offending type each time) until I found the culprit .fm file. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

RE: progressindication.swf in the FM10 installation directory

2012-12-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Roman Banks wrote: Sometimes, when Framemaker performs a lengthy and time-consuming operation, I get the Framemaker (Not Responding) message, even if it does not get stuck completely. I think, using a progress bar instead of this stupid and misleading message would be more appropriate. When

Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent

2012-12-12 Thread Rob Shell
Dear Framers: I would love to know what this message means. Has it something to do with conditional text? The capitalized noun would indicate no. (I do not use conditional text). Or does this refer to a condition which is set. Could this be a toggle switch? And the condition is on or off The

Re: Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent

2012-12-12 Thread Matt Sullivan
You have one or more conditions in one or more files. One or more of these conditions is set to display the condition indicators in one or more of these files. Remove the conditions, set the condition indicators the same across all files, and you'll be free of the messages. Remember to also

Re: Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent

2012-12-12 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
It means one of two things: 1. The conditions that are *selected* to be viewed in each file are not the same throughout the book. (Even if you do not apply the conditions to any text, there still can be conditions defined in the file.) 2. You have conditions that are defined in some, but not

RE: Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent

2012-12-12 Thread Fred Ridder
Sorry, Shmuel, but this is not correct. In the first case you describe, the message you would see is something like Show/hide rules are inconsistent. The second case that you describe is not an error condition and does not produce any warning message. There is absolutely no requirement that

RE: Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent

2012-12-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Rob Shell wrote: Subject: Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent Dear Framers: I would love to know what this message means. Has it something to do with conditional text? The capitalized noun would indicate no. Why would the capitalization indicate no? (I do not use

Re: Cross-reference to a previous file

2012-12-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
Another way to work around that is to consolidate everything into a single file. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: Current file only, unless that's changed with FM11 (and I doubt it). Where I work, we have a sort-of-similar issue, and we solved it by using

RE: Cross-reference to a previous file

2012-12-12 Thread David Artman
|From: Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com |Date: Tue, December 11, 2012 8:20 pm | |Where I work, we have a sort-of-similar issue, and we solved it by |using cross-references. It means you'll have to remember to check that |you're pointing to the right files if you add any new ones in, but it |beats

RE: Book is not self-consistent

2012-12-12 Thread Harpreet Singh Seehra
The contents of generated files, the page count, or cross-references continued to change while generating and updating files in the book. For example, if a book contains both a list of markers and an alphabetical list of markers, and if both contain hypertext links, the number of markers grows

FrameMaker 11 – Stability / Crashing on Save.. Help

2012-12-12 Thread Simon Thomson
Hi All, Recently updated to Adobe FrameMaker 11 (within TCS4, which was an upgrade to my existing TCS 2.5) and all was going well, kind of - until now. Now with my current project due to be uploaded at the translators asap – a small Technical Overview publication, consisting of 11 files

RE: Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent

2012-12-12 Thread Craig Ede
It usually means that one or more of the files in a book are not set to Show All condition indications. (This even happens if there are now conditional text formats defined in any of the files.) I routinely set things to with Show All checked in each file to avoid this. Craig From:

Re: Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent

2012-12-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
It means that some of the documents in a book are set to show condition indicators (change bars / underline / text color / whatever) and some aren't. The way FM's conditional text is implemented is complicated and confusing. ___ You are currently

Re: progressindication.swf in the FM10 installation directory

2012-12-12 Thread Roman Banks
Hi Richard,   Thank you for your response! I think you are right. :-)   In any case, when Framemaker becomes irresponsive while performing something, I would like to know if it crashed miserably or just became temporarily irresponsive. There is no way to discover that rather than sit and wait.

"Book is not self-consistent"

2012-12-12 Thread Rob Shell
Hi Framers: I am getting this message "Book is not self-consistent" Upon generation of indexes and TOC of an unstructured document (9,350 pp). I have found Verner's post of 2009 in which he claims that all he had to do was to "disable track changes" to solve the problem. This did not work for me.

Cross-reference to a previous file

2012-12-12 Thread Lin Sims
It does, actually, but since we make sure that the text is black, it doesn't LOOK like it's clickable. People are so accustomed to links being blue and/or underlined that they never think to hover over text that looks like all the other text. Social engineering at its finest. ;-) -- Lin Sims On

"Book is not self-consistent"

2012-12-12 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
I'd be checking if it was the ToC or the IX that was causing it to choke first. Then I would create a dummy book and gradually add file by file (generating the offending type each time) until I found the culprit .fm file. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com

progressindication.swf in the FM10 installation directory

2012-12-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Roman Banks wrote: > Sometimes, when Framemaker performs a lengthy and time-consuming > operation, I get the "Framemaker (Not Responding)" message, even if it > does not get stuck completely. I think, using a progress bar instead of > this stupid and misleading?message would be more appropriate.

"Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent"

2012-12-12 Thread Rob Shell
Dear Framers: I would love to know what this message means. Has it something to do with conditional text? The capitalized noun would indicate no. (I do not use conditional text). Or does this refer to a condition which is set. Could this be a toggle switch? And the condition is on or off The

"Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent"

2012-12-12 Thread Matt Sullivan
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"Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent"

2012-12-12 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
It means one of two things: 1. The conditions that are *selected* to be viewed in each file are not the same throughout the book. (Even if you do not apply the conditions to any text, there still can be conditions defined in the file.) 2. You have conditions that are defined in some, but not

"Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent"

2012-12-12 Thread Fred Ridder
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"Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent"

2012-12-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Rob Shell wrote: > Subject: "Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent" > > Dear Framers: > I would love to know what this message means. > Has it something to do with conditional text? The capitalized noun > would > indicate no. Why would the capitalization indicate no? > (I do not

Cross-reference to a previous file

2012-12-12 Thread David Artman
|From: Lin Sims |Date: Tue, December 11, 2012 8:20 pm | |Where I work, we have a sort-of-similar issue, and we solved it by |using cross-references. It means you'll have to remember to check that |you're pointing to the right files if you add any new ones in, but it |beats typing everything in

"Book is not self-consistent"

2012-12-12 Thread Harpreet Singh Seehra
The contents of generated files, the page count, or cross-references continued to change while generating and updating files in the book. For example, if a book contains both a list of markers and an alphabetical list of markers, and if both contain hypertext links, the number of markers grows

FrameMaker 11 – Stability / Crashing on Save.. Help

2012-12-12 Thread Simon Thomson
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"Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent"

2012-12-12 Thread Craig Ede
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"Use Condition Indicators setting is inconsistent"

2012-12-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
It means that some of the documents in a book are set to show condition indicators (change bars / underline / text color / whatever) and some aren't. The way FM's conditional text is implemented is complicated and confusing.

progressindication.swf in the FM10 installation directory

2012-12-12 Thread Roman Banks
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