Re: [Framers] Up for discussion: changing Framers' default Reply-To behavior

2017-01-26 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi, _All_ my other lists have the default to Reply to the list instead of the poster. And there I do not get lots of private e-mails which are sent to the whole list accidentally. (Of course this happens sometimes. I did this too. Embarassing.) I also think that part of the replies in this list

Re: [Framers] Whenever I post to this list, I get an interesting fraud detection message.

2017-01-26 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Interesting ... this is the only list that I seem to get it from though. I will ask our e-mail admin people to see if they have any suggestions. Thanks! Z -Original Message- From: FrameUsers Admin [mailto:ca...@frameusers.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 07:02 PM To: Syed Zaeem

Re: [Framers] Up for discussion: changing Framers' default Reply-To behavior

2017-01-26 Thread Alan Litchfield
My vote is to have the default as the list. This is what is used in most of my other mailing lists. Thank you for asking. Alan On 27/01/17 7:43, FrameUsers Admin wrote: In the "old days" of this list, it was expected that a poster would summarize the comments received, especially any that

Re: [Framers] Whenever I post to this list, I get an interesting fraud detection message.

2017-01-26 Thread FrameUsers Admin
Syed, the message you are seeing does not originate from the Framers list or the software that runs it (Mailman). Bbased on the link provided, it looks as if this is a Microsoft thing. Big brother is watching! Carol At 07:33 PM 1/26/2017, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: Below, you can see the one

[Framers] Whenever I post to this list, I get an interesting fraud detection message.

2017-01-26 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Below, you can see the one line of text message (and a link) that I see whenever I post to this list ... not sure why(?) Are others seeing this too? Z This is the line below: [This sender failed our fraud detection checks and may not be who they appear to be. Learn about spoofing at

Re: [Framers] Up for discussion: changing Framers' default Reply-To behavior

2017-01-26 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
I am open to whatever cures the add-on text that says that I am not a verified user (or some such "alternative fact" words). :) (I have no clue whether I am the only one seeing this text ...) Z P.S. Thanks, Carol, for maintaining this list! -Original Message- From: Framers

Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 130, Issue 15

2017-01-26 Thread Michael Lewis
David's post leads to some interesting questions: 1. To what extent (if at all) does a reader's "preference" reflect "effectiveness", or comprehension? 2. It seems at least possible that fonts preferences vary according to the purpose of reading - information or entertainment. Has this been

Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 130, Issue 15

2017-01-26 Thread David Creamer
My two cents... Generally, if the document is meant to be read mostly on-screen--including PDFs--sans serif is easier to read on most monitors, especially smaller or older ones. That's why most websites tend to use san serif fonts. I like to use a san serif that contains lots of styles and

Re: [Framers] Up for discussion: changing Framers' default Reply-To behavior

2017-01-26 Thread Peter Gold
I think most mailers have a modifier-key option that offers Reply to All. IMO, this is the simplest solution. Some of us might have to learn that alternate-fact key combination, but it would avoid unintentionally posting to the list. As to changing one's habits, it would be helpful if messages

Re: [Framers] Up for discussion: changing Framers' default Reply-To behavior

2017-01-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
If that's possible, I vote for it. In GMail, I habitually hit Reply All, delete any individuals, and move the list address from CC to To if it's not there already. On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:43 AM, FrameUsers Admin wrote: > ... as List Mom, I'd like to change the default

Re: [Framers] Up for discussion: changing Framers' default Reply-To behavior

2017-01-26 Thread Alan Houser
I _much_ prefer a default "Reply-To-Sender". Reasons: - A default Reply-To-All is noisy. (I'll note that Carol suggested that we reply privately to her. Why is this thread special? :-> ). - A default Reply-To-All _will_ cause private or embarrassing messages to go to the list, from senders

Re: [Framers] Up for discussion: changing Framers' default Reply-To behavior

2017-01-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Got my vote - I keep forgetting to do "Reply All" and then hack off the OP's address before posting. From: Framers on behalf of FrameUsers Admin Sent:

Re: [Framers] Up for discussion: changing Framers' default Reply-To behavior

2017-01-26 Thread Scott Prentice
Interesting. I'm sure we'll get used to whatever the default is, but an observation .. in my email client, Thunderbird, I have the option to "Reply" which goes to the sender, and "Reply List" which goes to the list. Apparently that's not a common feature? It's been so long since I've used

Re: [Framers] Up for discussion: changing Framers' default Reply-To behavior

2017-01-26 Thread John Sgammato
I would be happy to see Reply to All as the default. Thanks for asking, and thanks for all that you do! On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:43 PM, FrameUsers Admin wrote: > In the "old days" of this list, it was expected that a poster would > summarize the comments received,

[Framers] Up for discussion: changing Framers' default Reply-To behavior

2017-01-26 Thread FrameUsers Admin
In the "old days" of this list, it was expected that a poster would summarize the comments received, especially any that were sent off-list. These days, most of us don't have time for that and we miss so much good information that could help us all. I know that often someone posts something

Re: [Framers] General writing question

2017-01-26 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Appreciate all the feedback. I have been sent some very helpful links and comments that will help me guide the client to providing a more readable structure. TVB ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to

Re: [Framers] OT: General writing question

2017-01-26 Thread Ken Poshedly
My personal experience agrees with the previously stated findings from so long ago. That is, san serif body text is a PITA -- especially when there are huge blocks of it.And the confusion between certain characters is MAJOR when you are presenting alpha-numeric data. So, going back to the

Re: [Framers] OT: General writing question

2017-01-26 Thread Patrick Edwards
Like Roger, I'm a big fan of Robin Williams' books too, but this one is essential: The Elements of Typographic Style by Robert Bringhurst.

Re: [Framers] OT: General writing question

2017-01-26 Thread Peter Gold
Have you searched the archives at Techwr-L , and posted your questions there? HTH On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:14 AM,

Re: [Framers] OT: General writing question

2017-01-26 Thread shuttie27
I have no strong views on the use of sans-serif as opposed to serif fonts, though i prefer sans for headings and serif for body text (but not Times, I must say  - it was designed for absorbent newsprint). It used to be said that serif fonts are easier to read, but I believe that wisdom has been

Re: [Framers] OT: General writing question

2017-01-26 Thread Keith Soltys
The biggest problem I have found with some sans serif fonts is the difficulty in distinguishing between a capital I and a lower case l, and in some fonts, the number 1. If you are writing a technical document and there is any chance of confusing these characters, then you have a good case for not

[Framers] OT: General writing question

2017-01-26 Thread Tammy Van Boening
All, I know that this list is for Framemaker-related questions, but that means we are all writers on this list, so I wanted to post a general writing style question to the multitudes of gurus that I can reach as a result. . . Since the cows have come home, I have always, and I mean always, used

Re: [Framers] new version?

2017-01-26 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Craig, On the tcworld conference in Stuttgart in November Adobe presented the next FrameMaker version. I do not remember the planned release date. I guess March. As far as I remember Adobe will upgrade your version, if you bought it 6 weeks before the next release. However, I would get this