RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:16 -0600 15/5/08, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: Thanks for this, but it still won't work for me. I did exactly what Hedley outlined, but still no luck. I'm late on this thread but it seems to be mainly about Adobe Updater. Forgive me if I've misunderstood. I am sorry for Linda, but sort of

RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
Further to my previous mail, I have just 'permitted' yet another installation of Adobe Bridge 1.0.3, then checked what version of Bridge actually is installed. It's 1.0.4.6. Automatic updaters are great when they work. Apple's is first-rate. -- Steve

Re: default reply-to-all (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-16 Thread Paul Findon
On 15 May 2008, at 04:25, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2008 22:05:47 -0400, Alan Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is worse? -- - You reply to a message on the list. Assuming that you are replying to the sender, you include information that is personal, privileged, or

RE: default reply-to-all (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-16 Thread Fred Ridder
Paul Findon wrote (in part): Hedley is not asking for a reply-to-all. What he, I and, no doubt, others want is reply-to-list. In other words, when you click your Reply button, by default, messages are addressed to the list. I've been using lists since 1993 and running several since

Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Art Campbell
, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates -Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:13 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Framers Self-Support' Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now

RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
. Gallagher Cc: Framers Self-Support Subject: Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND) If I were you, I'd put this on hold for a few days and wait until the update is posted to the FM support download site, and then try it manually. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads

Re: default reply-to-all (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-16 Thread Art Campbell
I believe this is the default Mailman set up, usually used to reduce the risk of the email loops that Jeremy already mentioned. Art On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Findon wrote (in part): Hedley is not asking for a reply-to-all. What he, I and, no

RE: default reply-to-all (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Bradley
Hedley is not asking for a reply-to-all. What he, I and, no doubt, others want is reply-to-list. In other words, when you click your Reply button, by default, messages are addressed to the list. I've been using lists since 1993 and running several since 1996, and Framers is the only list

Re: default reply-to-all (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-16 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
At least one major email list that I subscribe to uses LISTSERV email list management software. In this scheme, one posts messages to a LISTSERV-powered server which in turn redistributes the posting to all of the subscribers, either as individual email messages or in digest format, comprising

Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Wickham
Linda, Perhaps running the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility will help. There might be a mangled Installer process stuck somewhere. Here is the description: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 The download link is inconspicuous about halfway down the page. Mike Wickham

FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:16 -0600 15/5/08, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: >Thanks for this, but it still won't work for me. I did exactly what Hedley >outlined, but still no luck. I'm late on this thread but it seems to be mainly about Adobe Updater. Forgive me if I've misunderstood. I am sorry for Linda, but sort of

FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
Further to my previous mail, I have just 'permitted' yet another installation of Adobe Bridge 1.0.3, then checked what version of Bridge actually is installed. It's 1.0.4.6. Automatic updaters are great when they work. Apple's is first-rate. -- Steve

default "reply-to-all" (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-16 Thread Paul Findon
On 15 May 2008, at 04:25, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2008 22:05:47 -0400, Alan Houser > > wrote: > >> Which is worse? -- >> >> - You reply to a message on the list. Assuming that you are >> replying to >> the sender, you include information that is personal, privileged, or >>

default "reply-to-all" (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-16 Thread Fred Ridder
Paul Findon wrote (in part): > Hedley is not asking for a "reply-to-all." What he, I and, no doubt, > others want is "reply-to-list." In other words, when you click your > Reply button, by default, messages are addressed to the list. > > I've been using lists since 1993 and running several

FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
-Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:13 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher; hfinger at handholding.com.au; 'Framers Self-Support' Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE

FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Art Campbell
riday, May 16, 2008 2:13 AM > To: Linda G. Gallagher; hfinger at handholding.com.au; 'Framers Self-Support' > Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND) > > Further to my previous mail, I have just 'permitted' yet another > installation of Adobe Bridge 1.

FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:14 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher Cc: Framers Self-Support Subject: Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND) If I were you, I'd put this on "hold" for a few days and wait until the update is posted to the FM support download site

default "reply-to-all" (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-16 Thread Gail Former
Interesting. I'm on 22 different email lists, and this is the only one with that particular behavior that I'm aware of. As I mostly lurk, the issue has never come up for me before. Gail Fred Ridder wrote: > Paul Findon wrote (in part): > > >> Hedley is not asking for a "reply-to-all."

default "reply-to-all" (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-16 Thread Art Campbell
I believe this is the default Mailman set up, usually used to reduce the risk of the email loops that Jeremy already mentioned. Art On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > Paul Findon wrote (in part): > >> Hedley is not asking for a "reply-to-all." What he, I and, no doubt, >>

default "reply-to-all" (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-16 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
At least one major email list that I subscribe to uses LISTSERV email list management software. In this scheme, one posts messages to a LISTSERV-powered server which in turn redistributes the posting to all of the subscribers, either as individual email messages or in digest format, comprising

FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Wickham
Linda, Perhaps running the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility will help. There might be a mangled Installer process stuck somewhere. Here is the description: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 The download link is inconspicuous about halfway down the page. Mike Wickham

RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-15 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND) SENT THIS JUST TO LINDA BECAUSE OF BEHAVIOUR WHEN YOU HIT REPLY BUTTON. CAN SOMEONE RECONFIGURE THIS LIST SO REPLY GOES TO LIST. SHOULD WE REALLY HAVE TO HIT REPLY-TO-ALL? Linda and others: Anyone else having trouble getting this update

FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-15 Thread Hedley Finger
<> Linda and others: > Anyone else having trouble getting this update to install? > > I've tried multiple times, including from Acrobat after completely shutting > down my system and every time it says that it detects that FM is open and > cannot install. At least twice, FM was definitely not

Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND)

2008-05-14 Thread Hedley Finger
SENT THIS JUST TO LINDA BECAUSE OF BEHAVIOUR WHEN YOU HIT REPLY BUTTON. CAN SOMEONE RECONFIGURE THIS LIST SO REPLY GOES TO LIST. SHOULD WE REALLY HAVE TO HIT REPLY-TO-ALL? Linda and others: Anyone else having trouble getting this update to install? I've tried multiple times, including

default reply-to-all (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-14 Thread Alan Houser
Which is worse? -- - You reply to a message on the list. Assuming that you are replying to the sender, you include information that is personal, privileged, or inappropriate-for-public-consumption. Your reply goes to the entire list. The damage is done. - You reply to a message on the list.

Re: default reply-to-all (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))

2008-05-14 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 14 May 2008 22:05:47 -0400, Alan Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is worse? -- - You reply to a message on the list. Assuming that you are replying to the sender, you include information that is personal, privileged, or inappropriate-for-public-consumption. Your reply goes to the