RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-10-01 Thread Michael O'Neill
RoboHelp? -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:28 AM To: Richard Levine; framers@lists.frameusers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

Re: Don't forget Blaze [was Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite]

2007-09-27 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Hedley, What percentage of the FrameMaker audience do you think is waiting for such a »feature«? What company will care to implement that as a standard function of their software? Sorry, I cannot resist to tell you, that *if* you can come up with an algorithm for that »problem« of yours,

RE: Academic pricing [was Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite]

2007-09-27 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Adobe's website (http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/upgrade/ ) regarding upgrading from FrameMaker (any version) to the TC Suite includes the statement: Upgrades for volume and educational licensing are handled separately. So one might presume that educational licensing

Academic pricing [was "Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite"]

2007-09-27 Thread Hedley Finger
Anyone know if academic pricing is available? -- Hedley Stewart Finger 28 Regent Street Camberwell VIC 3124 Australia Tel. +61 3 9809 1229 Mobile +61 412 461 558, E-mail

Don't forget Blaze [was "Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite"]

2007-09-27 Thread Hedley Finger
Eric: At Wednesday, 26/09/2007, 11:20 PM;, you wrote: On 9/25/07, Hedley Finger <[1] hfinger at handholding.com.au> wrote: Well, it will be if we ALL start screaming for So, everyone get on it: [2]http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html How about

Don't forget Blaze [was "Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite"]

2007-09-27 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Hedley, What percentage of the FrameMaker audience do you think is waiting for such a ?feature?? What company will care to implement that as a standard function of their software? Sorry, I cannot resist to tell you, that *if* you can come up with an algorithm for that ?problem? of yours,

Academic pricing [was "Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite"]

2007-09-27 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Adobe's website (http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/upgrade/ ) regarding upgrading from FrameMaker (any version) to the TC Suite includes the statement: "Upgrades for volume and educational licensing are handled separately." So one might presume that educational licensing

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-26 Thread Eric Dunn
On 9/25/07, Hedley Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it will be if we ALL start screaming for So, everyone get on it: http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html How about someone re-write all those wishes into a format that will cut and paste into the Adobe form?

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-26 Thread Bill Swallow
So, everyone get on it: http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html How about someone re-write all those wishes into a format that will cut and paste into the Adobe form? I think you'll need to wait until the forums are once again usable. I currently can't get in. -- Bill Swallow HATT List

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-26 Thread Richard Levine
:55 AM To: Richard Levine Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Hi Richard, I'd like to understand what you exactly mean with two-way round- tripping and why you need that. I always thought of multi-channel publishing as single-source publishing with a stress on single

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-26 Thread Combs, Richard
Richard Levine wrote: I cannot really say that round-tripping is what I am looking for. What I would really like to see a fully integrated authoring environment that integrates multi-channel output with a powerful editor that overcomes FrameMaker's many limitations, thus obviating the

Academic pricing [was Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite]

2007-09-26 Thread Hedley Finger
Anyone know if academic pricing is available? -- Hedley Stewart Finger 28 Regent Street Camberwell VIC 3124 Australia Tel. +61 3 9809 1229 Mobile +61 412 461 558, E-mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers

Don't forget Blaze [was Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite]

2007-09-26 Thread Hedley Finger
Eric: At Wednesday, 26/09/2007, 11:20 PM;, you wrote: On 9/25/07, Hedley Finger [1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it will be if we ALL start screaming for So, everyone get on it: [2]http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html How about someone re-write

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Klaus Daube
On 24 Sep 2007 at 21:29, Dov Isaacs wrote: Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to ship by the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599. Users can upgrade for an estimated

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Great news! This seems to me to be the official stamp of Adobe finally acknowledging FrameMaker for what it is first and foremost: the best all-over technical publication workhorse. IMHO it only remains for Adobe to realise that FM is also one of the best tools for regular book layout, except

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Bill Swallow
So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short time since the two were developed under the same roof, so to speak. I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work together. --

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Michael O'Neill
PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short time since the two were

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Are you sure it's still available. I can't find this on Adobe's site, and the link below is no longer available. To learn more about the suite please visit www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Dov Isaacs wrote: ( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Mark Southee
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] m] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: 25 September 2007 15:56 To: Framers Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Are you sure it's still available. I can't find this on Adobe's site, and the link below is no longer

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
September 2007 15:56 To: Framers Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Are you sure it's still available. I can't find this on Adobe's site, and the link below is no longer available. To learn more about the suite please visit www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite. Regards

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread richard.melanson
WOW !!! Outstanding. Way to go Adobe ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:29 AM To: Frame2Acrobat E-mail List; Framers Alternative E-mail List; Framers E-mail List Subject: Adobe Unveils

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Richard Levine
] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short time since the two were developed

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Kelly McDaniel
] Subject: RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 integration is one-way .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book. --- Richard D. Levine Technical Writer Check Point

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Lin Surasky
According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 integration is one-way .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book. Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Bill Swallow
Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content back to FM. It's a repurposing solution. On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 integration is one-way .fm or .mif file

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Am 25.09.2007 um 16:41 schrieb Richard Levine: According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 integration is one-way .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book. No, it's more than that. It is a connection to the original FrameMaker book or document very much like

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Yves Barbion
Great! I think the Tech Com suite is definitely a move in the right direction. I would add Photoshop and Illustrator to that suite as well. I'm wondering whether this can be done: * Author and maintain DITA content in FrameMaker. * Import the ditamap instead of the FM book file into the

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Bill Swallow wrote: Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content back to FM. It's a repurposing solution. If round-tripping were a prerequisite for single-sourcing, then using Acrobat Distiller and Webworks

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Bill Swallow
If round-tripping were a prerequisite for single-sourcing, then using Acrobat Distiller and Webworks Publisher to create deliverables from your FM files wouldn't qualify. On the surface this would appear to be true, however Distiller and WWP are not authoring environments. The FM files remain

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Bill Swallow wrote: FM+RH is still repurposing content from FM into RH then out to whatever output you choose, and unless I'm missing something, if you make changes in RH to your content, you can't repurpose the content back to FM. That's true *if* you make changes in RH to your content

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

2007-09-25 Thread Hedley Finger
Bodvar and others: At Tuesday, 25/09/2007, 07:07 PM;, you wrote: IMHO it only remains for Adobe to realise that FM is also one of the best tools for regular book layout, Well, it will be if we ALL start screaming for @ working in double-spreads, i.e. -- photographs and