ugust 2013 08:18
To: Fred Ridder
Cc: Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
4 GB of RAM may be of no use to FrameMaker if it's the only application open,
but if you have other applications open and you only have 4 GB, wouldn't those
other ap
Craig Ede wrote:
>
> Framemaker can take quite a while to do some things, so it's important to know
> the difference between a crash and a "FrameMaker is not responding"
> message. The latter means "Wait until I complete this task." The former is
> accompanied by a crash message and exiting from F
We get crashes on FM10 pretty often when manipulating conditional text dialog
boxes. Sometimes they crash "cleanly", but sometimes we don't get a crash
message etc, FM just freezes. I left one overnight a while ago and it was still
frozen the next morning.
(We've tested FM11 and it looks like
I said nothing that disagrees with
that.
-Fred Ridder
> From: david.da...@invensys.com
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:29:32 -0500
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
We operate from network server drive, and have experienced the very same
problems while using Win 7 FM 11.
It isn't really a problem with FM, it's a server problem involving latency on
the server.
If you look at the resulting files after a crash you may see son with stable,
apparently random
Framemaker can take quite a while to do some things, so it's important to
know the difference between a crash and a "FrameMaker is not responding"
message. The latter means "Wait until I complete this task." The former is
accompanied by a crash message and exiting from FrameMaker. Very seldom do I
kely to cut ice with the
company's IT procurement folks.
David
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From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
Sent: 13 August 2013 14:58
To: Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
You can disagree if you want, b
urse it is true that one of the most basic functions of an OS is memory
management. I said nothing that disagrees with that.
-Fred Ridder
> From: david.da...@invensys.com
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:29:32 -0500
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker
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Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
Fred, one of the most basic functions of an operating system is to be able
to manage memory (without crashing!) :)
Simply because applications might all want more memory on the go at one time
than is physically available, should not mean that
I run FM11 on Win7 Enterprise 32bit, 4gb RAM and also on Win7 Ultimate 64bit,
8gb RAM and suffer few crashes. The majority of crashes I have suffered is when
I have a book with .xml children whether I was using a network share or
locally. When the .xml files were converted to .fm files, most cra
"framers@lists.frameusers.com"
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But the application is not the only thing using memory. Even if a 32-bit
application can only address 4 GB, any additional installed memory can s
I'd second the advice that anti-virus software is something to look for as a
culprit for these crashes! (I must say that, in corporate network
environments, I've had orders of magnitude greater losses in productivity from
damned anti-virus software than from ever getting an actual virus :)
Wi
I think it's fair to say that FrameMaker never crashes _for you_.
However, given my (somewhat different) experience with the stability of
FrameMaker 11, I'm sensitive about having our concerns dismissed. :-)
Stability of FrameMaker seems to vary greatly depending on the source
files being edi
sers.com[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John PosadaSent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:40 PMTo: Ken PoshedlyCc: FrameUsers ListSubject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb and have not crashed once.__
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> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Posada
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:40 PM
> To: Ken Poshedly
> Cc: FrameUsers List
> Subject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
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> Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb a
...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Posada
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:40 PM
To: Ken Poshedly
Cc: FrameUsers List
Subject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb and have not crashed once
Hi Ken,
One option that you have is to put your files in a SVN repository. If you
do this, then checked out files will be local to the person's computer and
there's no issue with network latency etc. You can certainly do the check
out to an external hard drive to if that's needed. Once the user i
I have used FM 11 with Windows 7 working on files from a network for months
and, while not crash free, I have experienced relatively few crashes. The
first patch that adobe released help a lot with printing issues.
Craig
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Hi Ken,
I have used FM11 unstructured on Win7 with files on the network since FM11
was released. I have no problems.
Maybe your files are too big with the embedded ages?
On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Ken Poshedly wrote:
> Due to the addition of 2 new contract writers and the replacement of the
>
To add to the chorus: I have been using Windows 7 (64 bit) and FrameMaker 11
for over two years now - that OS should not be a reason for concern per se. So,
if you all are getting new systems with fully patched versions of Windows 7 and
FrameMaker 11, you should be fine.
And, as others have al
Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb and have not crashed once.
On Aug 9, 2013 12:50 AM, "Ken Poshedly" wrote:
> Due to the addition of 2 new contract writers and the replacement of the
> hard drive in an existing terminal in my department, we're now stuck with
> Windows 7 and FrameMaker 11
contention for
memory resources even if it can only access 1/2 or 1/3 of the total memory
available to the OS.
-Fred Ridder
> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 06:23:55 +1200
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> From: hele...@iinet.net.au
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
>
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Helen Borrie
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 2:24 PM
To: 'FrameMaker Users List'
Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
At 01:32 a.m. 10/08/2013, Rick Qu
At 01:32 a.m. 10/08/2013, Rick Quatro wrote:
>
>Otherwise, make sure the writers have plenty of RAM. In my opinion, 8 GB is
>the minimum. This may help with the performance problems.
>
More than 4 GB of RAM is of absolutely no use for running a 32-bit application,
whether it be on a 32-bit or
I have used FM 11 with Windows 7 working on files from a network for months
and, while not crash free, I have experienced relatively few crashes. The
first patch that adobe released help a lot with printing issues.
Craig
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
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On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 09:32:32 -0400, "Rick Quatro" wrote:
>I would be tempted to do an informal "downgrade" and have all of the writers
>use FrameMaker 8. I am running FrameMaker 8 with Windows 7 with no problems.
>In my opinion, FrameMaker 8 is still the "gold" version of FrameMaker as far
>as spe
Hi Ken,
I would be tempted to do an informal "downgrade" and have all of the writers
use FrameMaker 8. I am running FrameMaker 8 with Windows 7 with no problems.
In my opinion, FrameMaker 8 is still the "gold" version of FrameMaker as far
as speed and stability.
Otherwise, make sure the wri
One more thing... .are the files you're working on in the FM11 format?
And if they were converted from an earlier version, have you
MIF-washed them to ensure they're clean?
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent a
I'd second Jeff's recommendations, but IMHO, most of the problems
you're seeing could be the result of network permissions differences
between the server and the workstations. Are all the owners in the
same group, does that group exist on the server AND the workstations,
and do all members of the g
I've been running Win7 64bit with FM11 for some time now with my FM files on
our network drive with no problems or crashes at all. I think the trick is to
have a large amount of RAM installed (at least 8 GB) and lots of spare space on
your hard drive for temp files. You may find that you need to
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