RE: Pasting a link to excel 2007

[Paul Grigg]

Using FrameMaker 6.0

Just something we've noticed: if, in FM, you Edit  paste special  paste
link to a table in an excel 2003, the table appears in FrameMaker, but when
the file is printed, either to a physical printer or to distiller, the table
turns into a black stub. Anyone else noticed this, or have a solution?

Thanks, Paul.

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RE: Pasting a link to excel 2007

[Combs, Richard]

Paul Grigg wrote:
 
 Just something we've noticed: if, in FM, you Edit  paste 
 special  paste link to a table in an excel 2003, the table 
 appears in FrameMaker, but when the file is printed, either 
 to a physical printer or to distiller, the table turns into a 
 black stub. Anyone else noticed this, or have a solution?

Don't paste, import. Select File  Import  Object. In the Insert Object
dialog, check Create from File, and browse to your Excel file. Check
Link and click OK. 

One caveat: FM 6 obviously preceded Excel 2007, so you'll probably have
to save the Excel file in an earlier format (97/2003 or maybe 5/95)
before you do this. 

HTH!
Richard


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Frame to pdf bookmark problem

[Mark Southee]

I've started to get a strange problem when printing to pdf from some
newly created files.

I've got a Chapter Title paragraph style - Chapter:TitleBook, and a
Heading one style - Head:1Book
I have the pdf settings so the Head:1Book tags are indented once from
the Chapter:TitleBook.

However the pdf bookmarks always come out with the Head:1Book headings
above the Chapter:TitleBook heading.

Am on Frame 7.2p158 on WinXP Pro and Acrobat 7 (it's also the same for
Acrobat 8)

When I create a Frame TOC, this has everything in the right order.

I've got other books/files which convert fine with the identical set up.
Any ideas what I could have done wrong?

Regards

Mark
 
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Re: system variables inside a user variable?

[Steve Rickaby]

At 12:03 -0400 13/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? Ideally I'd
like to create a variable named CurrentYear that contains only the $year
building block. For reasons unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying
or using the existing current date, modification date, or creation date
variables.

Sadly, no, because $year is a sort of meta building block. If you look at the 
current date (long), modification date (long) and creation date (long) system 
variables, for example, you'll see that they all use $year, but it's just a 
placeholder to fish out the relevant part of the relevant date from 
FrameMaker's document data.

A user variable containing '$year' will appear in the text as '$year'. 
Well, actually, this is not quite true, as it appears in the text as '$year'. 
I am sure that there is a good reason for this, but I have no idea what it is.

You can, as you observe, edit the definitions of the system variables, but it 
seems that you don't want to do this. One feels one ought to be able to create 
new system variables: I expect someone has put this on a FrameMaker wish list 
at some stage.

-- 
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Re: system variables inside a user variable?

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Brian...

You can use our MarkerTools plugin to embed variables within markers ..

   http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php

I believe that this functionality is also available with Index Tools Pro
from Silicon Prairie as well ..

   http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html

...scott

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? Ideally I'd
like to create a variable named CurrentYear that contains only the $year
building block. For reasons unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying
or using the existing current date, modification date, or creation date
variables.

Thank you for your time.

Brian Darold
Technical Documentation Manager
Research  Development
Sage Software Healthcare Division
15151 NW 99th Street ● Alachua, FL 32615
Ph:  386.418.7562
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: system variables inside a user variable?

[Combs, Richard]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? 
 Ideally I'd like to create a variable named CurrentYear that 
 contains only the $year building block. For reasons 
 unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying or using the 
 existing current date, modification date, or creation date variables.

No, but you can redefine one of the system variables. For instance, if
you don't need the Current Date (Short) variable, select it in the
Variable dialog and click Edit Definition. In the Edit System Variable
dialog, replace the existing definition with $year. 

You can redefine any system variable, using the items in the Building
Blocks list.

HTH!
Richard


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OT: Indexing

[Ann Zdunczyk]

Hi all,

I know some of you guys do indexing a lot. I have been asked to quote doing
an index in Pagemaker (sorry). There are 1300 terms that are to be listed in
the index. In Pagemaker, as in Framemaker, I would need to add an index
entry for each instance of the term in a 300 page book. I have no idea how
may entries will need to be entered.

Does anyone have any idea the best way to quote something like this.

Z

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RE: system variables inside a user variable?

[Ridder, Fred]

As others have noted, it is not possible to use system variables
within user variables, nor is it possible to define additional new
system variables. But I have to say that I really don’t see that 
what you are trying to do provides that much utility. Globally 
updating a regular user variable that contains the year across
all files in a book takes only a few minutes, even for a large 
book, and you only need to change the value once a year.
A manual solution works fine for me in this situation.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

 

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Subject: system variables inside a user variable?

Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? Ideally I'd
like to create a variable named CurrentYear that contains only the $year
building block. For reasons unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying
or using the existing current date, modification date, or creation date
variables.
 
Thank you for your time.
 
Brian Darold
Technical Documentation Manager
Research  Development
Sage Software Healthcare Division
15151 NW 99th Street ● Alachua, FL 32615
Ph:  386.418.7562
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: OT: Indexing

[Steve Rickaby]

At 14:57 -0400 13/6/07, Ann Zdunczyk wrote:

I know some of you guys do indexing a lot. I have been asked to quote doing
an index in Pagemaker (sorry). There are 1300 terms that are to be listed in
the index. In Pagemaker, as in Framemaker, I would need to add an index
entry for each instance of the term in a 300 page book. I have no idea how
may entries will need to be entered.

Does anyone have any idea the best way to quote something like this.

No, but this sounds like a very poor way to index. What you describe sounds 
like a concordance index, which is usually next to useless. A big part of the 
skill of indexing is to know what to index and what to leave out.

I usually reckon on about 150 pp per day for a general index for a textbook in 
FrameMaker, but this is a crude measure as it depends very much on the number 
of indexes (general, authors, specific, etc) the number of words to be included 
in the index, and the tools you use to support indexing. I am afraid that I 
have no experience of PageMaker.

You should be able to find guidance on quotation from the relevant US or UK 
societies. Try at:

http://www.asindexing.org/site/index.html

http://www.indexers.org.uk/

-- 
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Pasting a link to excel 2007

[Paul Grigg]

Using FrameMaker 6.0

Just something we've noticed: if, in FM, you Edit > paste special > paste
link to a table in an excel 2003, the table appears in FrameMaker, but when
the file is printed, either to a physical printer or to distiller, the table
turns into a black stub. Anyone else noticed this, or have a solution?

Thanks, Paul.

Frame to pdf bookmark problem

[Ridder, Fred]

A similar question was asked and answered on-list last week. 

The most common cause of the behavior you describe is when
the chapter title is in a separate frame that is not properly 
connected to the frame(s) for the main text flow. Check your
master pages.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Southee
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:06 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame to pdf bookmark problem

I've started to get a strange problem when printing to pdf from some
newly created files.

I've got a Chapter Title paragraph style - Chapter:TitleBook, and a
Heading one style - Head:1Book
I have the pdf settings so the Head:1Book tags are indented once from
the Chapter:TitleBook.

However the pdf bookmarks always come out with the Head:1Book headings
above the Chapter:TitleBook heading.

Am on Frame 7.2p158 on WinXP Pro and Acrobat 7 (it's also the same for
Acrobat 8)

When I create a Frame TOC, this has everything in the right order.

I've got other books/files which convert fine with the identical set up.
Any ideas what I could have done wrong?

Regards

Mark

Mark Southee 
Documentation Manager 
SurfControl 
Direct: +44 01260 296139
Fax: +44 01260 296201
mark.southee at surfcontrol.com
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Frame to pdf bookmark problem

[Mark Southee]

Fred, it doesn't seem as straight forward as that. It only seems to
affect the first file in the book structure. I created 2 identical files
(all with the same text flows and connections). Whichever file was at
the top of the book structure, the problem as I described occurred, but
only for that file. Subsequent files where unaffected.

Regards

Mark 


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-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] 
Sent: 13 June 2007 15:24
To: Mark Southee; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame to pdf bookmark problem

A similar question was asked and answered on-list last week. 

The most common cause of the behavior you describe is when the chapter
title is in a separate frame that is not properly connected to the
frame(s) for the main text flow. Check your master pages.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Southee
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:06 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame to pdf bookmark problem

I've started to get a strange problem when printing to pdf from some
newly created files.

I've got a Chapter Title paragraph style - Chapter:TitleBook, and a
Heading one style - Head:1Book I have the pdf settings so the Head:1Book
tags are indented once from the Chapter:TitleBook.

However the pdf bookmarks always come out with the Head:1Book headings
above the Chapter:TitleBook heading.

Am on Frame 7.2p158 on WinXP Pro and Acrobat 7 (it's also the same for
Acrobat 8)

When I create a Frame TOC, this has everything in the right order.

I've got other books/files which convert fine with the identical set up.
Any ideas what I could have done wrong?

Regards

Mark

Mark Southee
Documentation Manager
SurfControl
Direct: +44 01260 296139
Fax: +44 01260 296201
mark.southee at surfcontrol.com
www.surfcontrol.com   

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system variables inside a user variable?

[brian.dar...@sage.com]

Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? Ideally I'd
like to create a variable named CurrentYear that contains only the <$year>
building block. For reasons unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying
or using the existing current date, modification date, or creation date
variables.

Thank you for your time.

Brian Darold
Technical Documentation Manager
Research & Development
Sage Software Healthcare Division
15151 NW 99th Street ? Alachua, FL 32615
Ph:  386.418.7562
  Brian.Darold at sage.com
  www.sagehealth.com

system variables inside a user variable?

[Steve Rickaby]

At 12:03 -0400 13/6/07, Brian.Darold at sage.com wrote:

>Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? Ideally I'd
>like to create a variable named CurrentYear that contains only the <$year>
>building block. For reasons unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying
>or using the existing current date, modification date, or creation date
>variables.

Sadly, no, because <$year> is a sort of meta building block. If you look at the 
current date (long), modification date (long) and creation date (long) system 
variables, for example, you'll see that they all use <$year>, but it's just a 
placeholder to fish out the relevant part of the relevant date from 
FrameMaker's document data.

A user variable containing '<$year>' will appear in the text as '<$year>'. 
Well, actually, this is not quite true, as it appears in the text as '<$year'. 
I am sure that there is a good reason for this, but I have no idea what it is.

You can, as you observe, edit the definitions of the system variables, but it 
seems that you don't want to do this. One feels one ought to be able to create 
new system variables: I expect someone has put this on a FrameMaker wish list 
at some stage.

-- 
Steve

system variables inside a user variable?

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Brian...

You can use our MarkerTools plugin to embed variables within markers ..

http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php

I believe that this functionality is also available with Index Tools Pro
from Silicon Prairie as well ..

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Brian.Darold at sage.com wrote:

Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? Ideally I'd
like to create a variable named CurrentYear that contains only the <$year>
building block. For reasons unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying
or using the existing current date, modification date, or creation date
variables.

Thank you for your time.

Brian Darold
Technical Documentation Manager
Research & Development
Sage Software Healthcare Division
15151 NW 99th Street ? Alachua, FL 32615
Ph:  386.418.7562
  Brian.Darold at sage.com
  www.sagehealth.com

system variables inside a user variable?

[Combs, Richard]

Brian.Darold at sage.com wrote: 

> Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? 
> Ideally I'd like to create a variable named CurrentYear that 
> contains only the <$year> building block. For reasons 
> unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying or using the 
> existing current date, modification date, or creation date variables.

No, but you can redefine one of the system variables. For instance, if
you don't need the Current Date (Short) variable, select it in the
Variable dialog and click Edit Definition. In the Edit System Variable
dialog, replace the existing definition with <$year>. 

You can redefine any system variable, using the items in the Building
Blocks list.

HTH!
Richard


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303-223-5111
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system variables inside a user variable?

[brian.dar...@sage.com]

Thanks for the great information everybody. As my department moves to
FrameMaker from MS Word I expect you'll see more questions from me in the
future. 

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:19 PM
To: Brian.Darold at sage.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: system variables inside a user variable?

As others have noted, it is not possible to use system variables within user
variables, nor is it possible to define additional new system variables. But
I have to say that I really don?t see that what you are trying to do
provides that much utility. Globally updating a regular user variable that
contains the year across all files in a book takes only a few minutes, even
for a large book, and you only need to change the value once a year.
A manual solution works fine for me in this situation.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ



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Behalf Of Brian.Darold at sage.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:03 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: system variables inside a user variable?

Is it possible to put building blocks inside a user variable? Ideally I'd
like to create a variable named CurrentYear that contains only the <$year>
building block. For reasons unknown, I'd like to do this without modifying
or using the existing current date, modification date, or creation date
variables.

Thank you for your time.

Brian Darold
Technical Documentation Manager
Research & Development
Sage Software Healthcare Division
15151 NW 99th Street ? Alachua, FL 32615
Ph:  386.418.7562
  Brian.Darold at sage.com
 www.sagehealth.com