Some questions about reference pages, index specifications and font size
Hi Framers: I have generated several independent indexes. However the page number font size is not constant for the same level. Thus I will have for example: Cape 1657-1750 54 1680-1730 36 The page number 36 is oversize (actually it is the paragraph number). I seem to think that the answer must lie in the reference pages, but the ref page headed Index Specifications is only one of three which appears to control the size of the font in the index. I have been importing formats. Have I inadvertently overloaded the index specifications? I am becoming dizzy trying to find out where I m going wrong.. Thanks Rob Robert C.-H. Shell Extraordinary Professor of Historical Demography UWC Courier address: Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building University of Western Cape Modderdam Road Bellville 7535 Western Cape Republic of South Africa Airmail address: Prof. Robert C.-H. Shell Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building Private Bag X17 Bellville Western Cape 7535 Republic of South Africa E-mail addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: 021-959-2909 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Slightly OT: Style checker?
Hi, I have used John Smart's MaxIt. The company works with your organization to build your dictionaries. You then can add to those dictionaries. It took a little getting use to, but I thought it was a very useful tool. I'm not sure about checking for a specific style guides. MaxIt has it's own set of rules and I don't remember if that was one of the options for editing how the software worked. I know that they now have a version that is MaxIt light. Less money and not all that much hand holding. With the whole package they come in an train the users on the product and work with you to develop your terminology. John is a transplanted Aussie with a great sense of humor. His product was developed out of the aerospace business. Even though I don't have MaxIt at my current job, I still use the skills developed with MaxIt. HTH Beth Tripp It looks like MAXit Checker (via same URL) would be the comparable product for unstructured FM...? Correct? Has anyone used MAXit? Rene Stephenson Combs, Richard richard.combs at Polycom.com wrote: Yves Barbion wrote: I'm looking for a style checker tool that dynamically checks whether DITA-structured text complies with terminology databases and style guides. Something that does the following: You need to look into Controlled English. I doubt you'll get your entire wish list (without spending a fortune on customization and consulting), but you can get 90% of what you need. Check out Smart Communications (http://www.smartny.com/) -- they seem to be the leader in the field. I can't directly vouch for them, or anyone else -- we've only done some preliminary investigation. HTH! Richard ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
DITA, DOCBOOK and Structured FrameMaker
Hello Framers, I work for software designer company in Spain. We're looking a trainer for Structured FrameMaker: building EDD, structured applications, etc. I'would like know if you know a trainer, speaking spanish, who can help us or if you recommended a online course of this. Yours faithfully, Q Antes de imprimir este mensaje, asegúrate de que es necesario. Proteger el medio ambiente está también en tu mano ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Some questions about reference pages, index specifications and font size
ps! I forgot to suggest that the most likely specification that's in use is on the Reference page named Index. However, without knowing the complete setup of your book, I may be overlooking something. I also forgot to include this test procedure, which is an alternate approach to isolating the cause: I seem to think that the answer must lie in the reference pages, but the ref page headed Index Specifications is only one of three which appears to control the size of the font in the index. * Before starting this test, make a backup set of the files, then from the Book window, in your test set, use Shift+File - Save All Files in Book, and then use File Save Book. * Manually remove the same two of the three index specifications from all the files in the book, then regenerate. (The reason for removing manually is that the import process doesn't remove objects (master page layouts, formats, reference pages, etc.) that are missing in the source of the import, so removing two index specifications from a source file and importing that into other files won't remove a specification.) * Regenerate the book and note the result. * If all is OK, you're done. From within any file in except the Book window, use Shift+File Save All Open Files (make sure there are no open non-book files that you don't want to save in their current state.) * If the result is NOT OK, from within any non-book file use Shift+File Close All Open files (answer No to save changes), then reopen the book, and from within the book, use Shift+File Open All Files in Book . Then, repeat the test with a different single specification in place. (NOTE: Open All Files in Book opens the files in minimize size.) Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Some questions about reference pages, index specifications and font size
I've considered this a bug in Frame for years. Here's what happening: The paragraph format that formats the page number doesn't exist yet. The name appears in the list, but you see an asterisk. Frame automatically creates the format but for some reason doesn't actually save it to the catalog. The solution? 1 Go to the reference page. 2 Find the format that formats the page number. 3 Notice that it has an asterisk next to it's name int he Paragraph catalog. 4 Open the Paragraph Designer. 5 From that funny little list right under the paragraph name, select Create New. You are prompted for the name and the name is already in the text box. 6 Click Create or what ever takes you forward (I'm doing this from memory) 7 Format the page number to what ever you want, clicking Update All. 8 Regenerate. Should be fixed. sharon Sharon Burton CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting 951-369-8590 www.anthrobytes.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 9:52 AM To: Rob Shell Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Some questions about reference pages,index specifications and font size Have you checked the para tag that controls the entry to make sure that no character tags are invoked? And/or, highlight the entire entry Ctrl-8 and specify Default Format Art On 6/23/07, Rob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Framers: I have generated several independent indexes. However the page number font size is not constant for the same level. Thus I will have for example: Cape 1657-1750 54 1680-1730 36 The page number 36 is oversize (actually it is the paragraph number). I seem to think that the answer must lie in the reference pages, but the ref page headed Index Specifications is only one of three which appears to control the size of the font in the index. I have been importing formats. Have I inadvertently overloaded the index specifications? I am becoming dizzy trying to find out where I m going wrong.. Thanks Rob ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Some questions about reference pages, index specifications and font size
Hi, Rob: I know a lot about FrameMaker, but I tremble when trying to engage with statistics in any specific way. I am quite comfortable with sweeping generalities and fuzzy logic. Rather than treat your number differences as problems, I'd take the statistical approach of determining what factor affects what what result. So, here's a suggestion that you might find useful: identify the source(s) of your result(s), then change as needed. * Begin with a clean before example. Save a copy for safety. * Create and apply a uniquly-colored character format in the specification for each index; each should have all properties set to As Is, except for color. * Regenerate the indexes, reimport as before, and you'll see which specification is responsible for which page size. * Change settings and regenerate until you've achieved the desired result. Unless I'm overlooking something, there's no need to document how many trials it takes to identify and resolve each instance, not to correlate how many cups of coffee become necessary to maintain the clarity of the experimenterG. HTH On 6/23/07, Rob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Framers: I have generated several independent indexes. However the page number font size is not constant for the same level. Thus I will have for example: Cape 1657-1750 54 1680-1730 36 The page number 36 is oversize (actually it is the paragraph number). I seem to think that the answer must lie in the reference pages, but the ref page headed Index Specifications is only one of three which appears to control the size of the font in the index. I have been importing formats. Have I inadvertently overloaded the index specifications? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SOS - CORRUPT FILES
Hello Framers,recently I had a machine with a bunch of FM files being backed up in progress - crash! It crashed so bad that about half of all of my FM files went corrupt and I can't open them anymore.Is there any means to fix them or recover or whatever. The files appear all fine - I can open them with notepad, etc. but not FrameMaker. They have correct size too.Thoughts?Michael _ With Windows Live Hotmail, you can personalize your inbox with your favorite color. www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/personalize.html?locale=en-us=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_addcolor_0607
Martha Jane Davidson, 1956-2007
Dear Mr. Davidson: Please accept my sympathy, and also my thanks for taking the time to inform us during this exceptionally difficult time for you. In 1995 the Framers List lost another frequent contributor, Carol Odlum, to brain cancer. Carol had been particularly helpful to me with a number of issues. No doubt there have been many others over the years whose disappearance from the list was due to an untimely death from cancer. My own wife is a breast cancer survivor. Since her surgery in 1994, there have been a number of scares, but they all proved to be false alarms. Your message reminds me of how fortunate I am, and of how much I share the sentiments of your epitaph. Sincerely, Graeme Forbes >-- > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:18:11 -0700 >From: Wolf Davidson >Subject: OT: Martha Jane Davidson, 1956-2007 >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Message-ID: <4679FC03.4000500 at nemasys.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Martha Jane Davidson (editrix at nemasys.com), a long-time contributor to >the Framers list, died 12 June 2007 after a long struggle with breast >cancer. > >Martha and I had 14 beautiful, wonderful years together. > >"I think not how sad it will be when you are gone, but rather how empty >it would have been had you never come." >[Author unknown] > >Wolf
Some questions about reference pages, index specifications and font size
Hi Framers: I have generated several independent indexes. However the page number font size is not constant for the same level. Thus I will have for example: Cape 1657-1750 54 1680-1730 36 The page number "36" is oversize (actually it is the paragraph number). I seem to think that the answer must lie in the reference pages, but the ref page headed "Index Specifications is only one of three which appears to control the size of the font in the index. I have been importing formats. Have I inadvertently overloaded the index specifications? I am becoming dizzy trying to find out where I m going wrong.. Thanks Rob Robert C.-H. Shell Extraordinary Professor of Historical Demography UWC Courier address: Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building University of Western Cape Modderdam Road Bellville 7535 Western Cape Republic of South Africa Airmail address: Prof. Robert C.-H. Shell Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building Private Bag X17 Bellville Western Cape 7535 Republic of South Africa E-mail addresses: rshell at uwc.ac.za rshell at iafrica.com Fax: 021-959-2909
SV: Acrobat 8/8.1 Dropping Text in PDF
Dov, You wrote: > (2) So far we haven't seen the NUMBER of fonts as the key > variable as to what causes corruption or too large a font > cache file. As I have indicated in early communications, my > systems routinely run with about 1400 to 1600 active > typefaces, all concurrently installed. We have several customers where removing supernumerary fonts from their systems actually solved the text drop out problem. Perhaps this font removal forced the system to refresh FNTCACHE.dat -- which seem quite likely given the number of fonts we removed, 500+ (that said, I urge all Framemaker users to remember that fonts to remove must be selected in meticulous detail to avoid deleting vital system fonts.) - Jacob
Some questions about reference pages, index specifications and font size
Have you checked the para tag that controls the entry to make sure that no character tags are invoked? And/or, highlight the entire entry Ctrl-8 and specify Default Format Art On 6/23/07, Rob Shell wrote: > Hi Framers: > I have generated several independent indexes. However the page number font > size is not constant for the same level. Thus I will have for example: > Cape > > 1657-1750 54 > > 1680-1730 36 > > The page number "36" is oversize (actually it is the paragraph number). > > I seem to think that the answer must lie in the reference pages, but the ref > page headed "Index Specifications is only one of three which appears to > control the size of the font in the index. > I have been importing formats. Have I inadvertently overloaded the index > specifications? > > I am becoming dizzy trying to find out where I m going wrong.. > Thanks > Rob -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
SOS - CORRUPT FILES
Thanks Lesley,I tried it. Unfortunately it didn't work. I googled a bit and there are couple guys that can do this (recovering) for money. Do you think it's worthwhile to send them the files?Michael> Subject: RE: SOS - CORRUPT FILES> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:00:57 -0400> From: lsmalley at infocon.com> To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com> > You can try the "heroic open" command: ESC o H > > (three key presses: Escape, lowercase OH, capital H)> > If it works (no guarantees, unfortunately) immediately save the file> to a new directory / name and close it - do not try to edit it. > > Then open the new file the normal way and see what you have.> > Never screw around (um edit) with the Frame binary file in a text > editor like notepad. FrameMaker builds a check-sum into the file,> and even if the number of bytes doesn't change, you'll almost > certainly mess up the checksum.> > On Friday, June 22, 2007 08:19 PM, Michael Zaichenko wrote:> > | Hello Framers, recently I had a machine with a bunch of FM > | files being backed up in progress - crash! It crashed so bad > | that about half of all of my FM files went corrupt and I > | can't open them anymore. Is there any means to fix them or > | recover or whatever. The files appear all fine - I can open > | them with notepad, etc. but not FrameMaker. They have correct > | size too. Thoughts? Michael> > - Lester > ---> Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com > Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 > Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com > --- _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
SOS - CORRUPT FILES
Lester omitted one part of the instructions... you need to already have a FM file open before you attempt the "Esc,o,H" sequence... Art On 6/22/07, Lester C. Smalley wrote: > You can try the "heroic open" command: ESC o H > > (three key presses: Escape, lowercase OH, capital H) > > If it works (no guarantees, unfortunately) immediately save the file > to a new directory / name and close it - do not try to edit it. > > Then open the new file the normal way and see what you have. > > Never screw around (um edit) with the Frame binary file in a text > editor like notepad. FrameMaker builds a check-sum into the file, > and even if the number of bytes doesn't change, you'll almost > certainly mess up the checksum. > > On Friday, June 22, 2007 08:19 PM, Michael Zaichenko wrote: > > | Hello Framers, recently I had a machine with a bunch of FM > | files being backed up in progress - crash! It crashed so bad > | that about half of all of my FM files went corrupt and I > | can't open them anymore. Is there any means to fix them or > | recover or whatever. The files appear all fine - I can open > | them with notepad, etc. but not FrameMaker. They have correct > | size too. Thoughts? Michael > > - Lester > --- > Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com > Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 > Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com > --- > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Some questions about reference pages, index specifications and font size
Hi, Rob: I know a lot about FrameMaker, but I tremble when trying to engage with statistics in any specific way. I am quite comfortable with sweeping generalities and fuzzy logic. Rather than treat your number differences as problems, I'd take the statistical approach of determining what factor affects what what result. So, here's a suggestion that you might find useful: identify the source(s) of your result(s), then change as needed. * Begin with a clean "before" example. Save a copy for safety. * Create and apply a uniquly-colored character format in the specification for each index; each should have all properties set to As Is, except for color. * Regenerate the indexes, reimport as before, and you'll see which specification is responsible for which page size. * Change settings and regenerate until you've achieved the desired result. Unless I'm overlooking something, there's no need to document how many trials it takes to identify and resolve each instance, not to correlate how many cups of coffee become necessary to maintain the clarity of the experimenter. HTH On 6/23/07, Rob Shell wrote: > Hi Framers: > I have generated several independent indexes. However the page number font > size is not constant for the same level. Thus I will have for example: > Cape > > 1657-1750 54 > > 1680-1730 36 > > The page number "36" is oversize (actually it is the paragraph number). > > I seem to think that the answer must lie in the reference pages, but the ref > page headed "Index Specifications is only one of three which appears to > control the size of the font in the index. > I have been importing formats. Have I inadvertently overloaded the index > specifications?
Some questions about reference pages, index specifications and font size
I've considered this a bug in Frame for years. Here's what happening: The paragraph format that formats the page number doesn't exist yet. The name appears in the list, but you see an asterisk. Frame automatically creates the format but for some reason doesn't actually save it to the catalog. The solution? 1 Go to the reference page. 2 Find the format that formats the page number. 3 Notice that it has an asterisk next to it's name int he Paragraph catalog. 4 Open the Paragraph Designer. 5 From that funny little list right under the paragraph name, select Create New. You are prompted for the name and the name is already in the text box. 6 Click Create or what ever takes you forward (I'm doing this from memory) 7 Format the page number to what ever you want, clicking Update All. 8 Regenerate. Should be fixed. sharon Sharon Burton CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting 951-369-8590 www.anthrobytes.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+sharon=anthrobytes@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+sharon=anthrobytes.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 9:52 AM To: Rob Shell Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Some questions about reference pages,index specifications and font size Have you checked the para tag that controls the entry to make sure that no character tags are invoked? And/or, highlight the entire entry Ctrl-8 and specify Default Format Art On 6/23/07, Rob Shell wrote: > Hi Framers: > I have generated several independent indexes. However the page number font > size is not constant for the same level. Thus I will have for example: > Cape > > 1657-1750 54 > > 1680-1730 36 > > The page number "36" is oversize (actually it is the paragraph number). > > I seem to think that the answer must lie in the reference pages, but the ref > page headed "Index Specifications is only one of three which appears to > control the size of the font in the index. > I have been importing formats. Have I inadvertently overloaded the index > specifications? > > I am becoming dizzy trying to find out where I m going wrong.. > Thanks > Rob
Some questions about reference pages, index specifications and font size
ps! I forgot to suggest that the most likely specification that's in use is on the Reference page named Index. However, without knowing the complete setup of your book, I may be overlooking something. I also forgot to include this test procedure, which is an alternate approach to isolating the cause: > > I seem to think that the answer must lie in the reference pages, but the ref > > page headed "Index Specifications is only one of three which appears to > > control the size of the font in the index. * Before starting this test, make a backup set of the files, then from the Book window, in your test set, use Shift+File - > Save All Files in Book, and then use File > Save Book. * Manually remove the same two of the three index specifications from all the files in the book, then regenerate. (The reason for removing manually is that the import process doesn't remove objects (master page layouts, formats, reference pages, etc.) that are missing in the source of the import, so removing two index specifications from a source file and importing that into other files won't remove a specification.) * Regenerate the book and note the result. * If all is OK, you're done. From within any file in except the Book window, use Shift+File > Save All Open Files (make sure there are no open non-book files that you don't want to save in their current state.) * If the result is NOT OK, from within any non-book file use Shift+File > Close All Open files (answer No to save changes), then reopen the book, and from within the book, use Shift+File > Open All Files in Book . Then, repeat the test with a different single specification in place. (NOTE: Open All Files in Book opens the files in minimize size.) Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
