Re: Validating all hypertext links in a FM book?

2007-12-21 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Hi Grant,

In addition to the validation of cross-references during book updates  
there is another, not very well-known feature of FrameMaker to  
validate Hypertext links based on gotolink markers. The keyboard  
shortcut should be

Esc v h (presumably for: validate hypertext)

I guess it works, like the cross-reference checks, from file to file  
and does not take into account if a target document is part of the  
current book.

- Michael


Am 20.12.2007 um 17:25 schrieb Grant Hogarth:

 I've looked in the help and queried the archives, but have been unable
 to find the answer to the following:
 Is there a way to validate all the hypertext links in a book?  Not
 xrefs, but hyperlinks.
 I know that they can be validated on insertion, but I'm looking for
 something to run as a QA/QC function before generating a set of HTML
 files from the FM book.

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Re: Validating all hypertext links in a FM book?

2007-12-21 Thread Shlomo Perets

Grant,

You wrote:

I've looked in the help and queried the archives, but have been unable
to find the answer to the following:
Is there a way to validate all the hypertext links in a book?  Not
xrefs, but hyperlinks.
I know that they can be validated on insertion, but I'm looking for
something to run as a QA/QC function before generating a set of HTML
files from the FM book.

You may start the hypertext validation using a key combination:  Escape v h
(three separate keystrokes; validates the current document or selected 
documents in book)
This validation is not full-proof, but is still of value.

There is also a sample BadLinks plug-in provided with the FrameMaker 
Developer Kit.
After it is compiled and installed (adds an entry under File  Utilities  
Document Reports), the plug-in generates a report of unresolved hypertext 
markers.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training  consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants


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Re: Validating all hypertext links in a FM book?

2007-12-21 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:25:03 -0700, Grant Hogarth 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've looked in the help and queried the archives, but have been unable
to find the answer to the following:
Is there a way to validate all the hypertext links in a book?  Not
xrefs, but hyperlinks.
I know that they can be validated on insertion, but I'm looking for
something to run as a QA/QC function before generating a set of HTML
files from the FM book.

Mif2Go, which you have, does that when you convert to HTML or XML.  
See par. 4.2.5, Checking for broken links, in the User's Guide.  
We generate a Book Error Log in Frame that links directly to any 
links that did not resolve while running the book.

HTH!


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/
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Re: Text flow oddity

2007-12-21 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Grant:

Search Google for framemaker text flow, framemaker parallel text
flows, and similar terms. There was a discussion of the problem on one
of the public FM lists or forums. One issue was that the old method of
incorporating a tiny frame of one or the other flow on left or right
master pages no longer worked. I'm not sure if the change occurred in
FM 6 or 7, or if this applies to your problem, but it's worth a bit of
search time. Perhaps other relevant topics will result.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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RE: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

2007-12-21 Thread Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)
Are you creating the EPS with a TIFF preview?
FrameMaker needs the TIFF preview to display on screen. 

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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Subject: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

Hi all,

 

(FM 7.2 on Windows)

 

I am trying to import an Adobe Illustrator .eps file into FrameMaker 7.2
but it comes in as a gray box. Is there a way to have it appear as
intended? And why does it come in as a gray box?

 

I know this has been mentioned before but I couldn't dig through the
archives easily.

 

 

Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354

 

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imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

2007-12-21 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi all,

 

(FM 7.2 on Windows)

 

I am trying to import an Adobe Illustrator .eps file into FrameMaker 7.2
but it comes in as a gray box. Is there a way to have it appear as
intended? And why does it come in as a gray box?

 

I know this has been mentioned before but I couldn't dig through the
archives easily.

 

 

Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354

 

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FrameUser's Archive

2007-12-21 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi all,

 

I just attempted to use the archive list at FrameUsers.com. Do I really
need to know what month a particular message was posted before I can get
an answer to an archived question? There seems to be no practical way to
dig through the archives. If I'm missing something incredibly obvious,
feel free to scold me on this.

 

 

Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354

 

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RE: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

2007-12-21 Thread Jon Harvey
The illustrator Save As box does not provide the option to save with
Tiff preview. Or any other option for that matter. The Illustrator help
says that the Save As box is where I set the Tiff preview option. Why
isn't the option there? This has become an Illustrator issue rather than
an FM issue. Sorry for the off-topic discussion.

 
Jon Harvey
Manager, Desktop Documentation
CambridgeSoft Corporation
100 CambridgePark Drive
Cambridge, MA 02140
(617) 588-9354
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From: Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:10 PM
To: Jon Harvey; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

Are you creating the EPS with a TIFF preview?
FrameMaker needs the TIFF preview to display on screen. 

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Harvey
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:07 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

Hi all,

 

(FM 7.2 on Windows)

 

I am trying to import an Adobe Illustrator .eps file into FrameMaker 7.2
but it comes in as a gray box. Is there a way to have it appear as
intended? And why does it come in as a gray box?

 

I know this has been mentioned before but I couldn't dig through the
archives easily.

 

 

Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354

 

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RE: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

2007-12-21 Thread Lester C. Smalley
In my copy of Illustrator (ver 10), I don't get to select including a
preview for the EPS image until after I click save from the Save As
command.  Then a new dialog opens that allow me to set the preview info,
as well as several other options.

- Lester 
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Information Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712
Yorklyn, DE  19736   Web: www.infocon.com   
---

 
On Friday, December 21, 2007 03:23 PM, Jon Harvey wrote:

| The illustrator Save As box does not provide the option to save with
| Tiff preview. Or any other option for that matter. The Illustrator
| help says that the Save As box is where I set the Tiff preview option.
| Why isn't the option there? This has become an Illustrator issue 
| rather than an FM issue. Sorry for the off-topic discussion.
| 
| Jon Harvey
| Manager, Desktop Documentation
| CambridgeSoft Corporation
| 100 CambridgePark Drive
| Cambridge, MA 02140
| (617) 588-9354
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Re: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

2007-12-21 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Jon Harvey wrote:
 The illustrator Save As box does not provide the option to save with
 Tiff preview. 


Version and OS, please.

Kenneth Benson
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Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2007-12-21 Thread Austin Meredith

We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year 
project. How could they have offered an upgrade that destroys hypertext?

Our Kouroo project now has 212,974 files that have already been saved 
as FM8 since we upgraded a few weeks ago, so going back to FM7 
seems difficult. We are, however, beginning to scheme a feasible 
workaround to give Adobe time to get its act together in regard to 
hypertext and FM8. FM8 does allow us to save an FM8 file in the FM7 
format, and FM7 does generate valid hypertext in an Acrobat document. 
So, *if* we can have both FM8 and FM7 installed at the same time (if 
there is a way to keep them from interfering with each other), and 
*if* we don't use any UNICODE or other features that would be 
destroyed in the retro-save as FM7 (and if Acrobat8.1 can still 
handle hypertext), a possible workaround would be: to first save an 
FM8 document as a FM7 document before attempting to generate any 
Acrobat8.1 document with hypertext. That seems feasible if it's doable.

The three questions associated with this feasible workaround would 
be: 1.) is there a way to have FM8 and still have FM7 also? --and, 
2.) are there any new FM8 features that we cannot allow to be 
destroyed by saving as FM7? --and, 3.) does the 8.1 version of 
Acrobat still accept hypertext?

Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Are the above three items doable? 


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Re: Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8don't work

2007-12-21 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Austin,

I have FrameMaker 5.5.6, 6.0, 7.0, 7.2, and 8.0 installed on the same 
computer. When going back and forth from 7.x to 8.0, you may have issues 
with characters changing. For example, I had some Zapf Dingbat characters 
that changed when I upgraded a document to 8.0.

If you need an automated way to convert your 8.0 documents back to 7.x 
format, let me know. You could do this with a FrameScript script.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year
project. How could they have offered an upgrade that destroys hypertext?

 Our Kouroo project now has 212,974 files that have already been saved
 as FM8 since we upgraded a few weeks ago, so going back to FM7
 seems difficult. We are, however, beginning to scheme a feasible
 workaround to give Adobe time to get its act together in regard to
 hypertext and FM8. FM8 does allow us to save an FM8 file in the FM7
 format, and FM7 does generate valid hypertext in an Acrobat document.
 So, *if* we can have both FM8 and FM7 installed at the same time (if
 there is a way to keep them from interfering with each other), and
 *if* we don't use any UNICODE or other features that would be
 destroyed in the retro-save as FM7 (and if Acrobat8.1 can still
 handle hypertext), a possible workaround would be: to first save an
 FM8 document as a FM7 document before attempting to generate any
 Acrobat8.1 document with hypertext. That seems feasible if it's doable.

 The three questions associated with this feasible workaround would
 be: 1.) is there a way to have FM8 and still have FM7 also? --and,
 2.) are there any new FM8 features that we cannot allow to be
 destroyed by saving as FM7? --and, 3.) does the 8.1 version of
 Acrobat still accept hypertext?

 Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Are the above three items 
 doable?

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OT: Setting Modification Date From Commandline

2007-12-21 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Framers,

I am looking for a command line program that will allow me to set the 
modification date and time of a file. Thanks for any suggestions.

Rick Quatro
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Unicode support of FrameMaker 8

2007-12-21 Thread Klaus Mueller
Hi all,

I would never recommend using special chars in FM
file or format names, but found the following issue
with FrameMaker 8.0p266 (that worked in FM7):

Clicking on the following hypertext marker results in
an error: "message system explorer C:/Program Files/Adob?"
(although the folder exists, of course).
If the folder does only contain ASCII chars, no error
occurs.
Shouldn't FrameMaker convert the internal UTF-8 string
to ANSI with "message system" commands?

Also, the QuickKey command does no more work with
formats containing non-ASCII chars:
"F9, B" does preselect "Body", "F9, ?" does insert
an Udieresis into the document.
Note that the localized version of FrameMaker also uses
default format names containing special chars, e.g.
"?berschrift 1" in the German FrameMaker.
If they won't consider any UTF-8/ANSI/Keyboard layout
conversion, the char shouldn't at least be inserted
into the document, imo ...

Kind regards,
Klaus




Unicode support of FrameMaker 8

2007-12-21 Thread Klaus Mueller
(sorry for double posting ...)

Hi all,

I would never recommend using special chars in FM
file or format names, but found the following issue
with FrameMaker 8.0p266 (that worked in FM7):

Clicking on the following hypertext marker results in
an error: "message system explorer C:/Program Files/Adob?"
(although the folder exists, of course).
If the folder does only contain ASCII chars, no error
occurs.
Shouldn't FrameMaker convert the internal UTF-8 string
to ANSI with "message system" commands?

Also, the QuickKey command does no more work with
formats containing non-ASCII chars:
"F9, B" does preselect "Body", "F9, ?" does insert
an Udieresis into the document.
Note that the localized version of FrameMaker also uses
default format names containing special chars, e.g.
"?berschrift 1" in the German FrameMaker.
If they won't consider any UTF-8/ANSI/Keyboard layout
conversion, the char shouldn't at least be inserted
into the document, imo ...

Kind regards,
Klaus




Validating all hypertext links in a FM book?

2007-12-21 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Hi Grant,

In addition to the validation of cross-references during book updates  
there is another, not very well-known feature of FrameMaker to  
validate Hypertext links based on gotolink markers. The keyboard  
shortcut should be

Esc v h (presumably for: validate hypertext)

I guess it works, like the cross-reference checks, from file to file  
and does not take into account if a target document is part of the  
current book.

- Michael


Am 20.12.2007 um 17:25 schrieb Grant Hogarth:

> I've looked in the help and queried the archives, but have been unable
> to find the answer to the following:
> Is there a way to validate all the hypertext links in a book?  Not
> xrefs, but hyperlinks.
> I know that they can be validated on insertion, but I'm looking for
> something to run as a QA/QC function before generating a set of HTML
> files from the FM book.

--
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http://cap-studio.de/ -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747





Validating all hypertext links in a FM book?

2007-12-21 Thread Shlomo Perets

Grant,

You wrote:

>I've looked in the help and queried the archives, but have been unable
>to find the answer to the following:
>Is there a way to validate all the hypertext links in a book?  Not
>xrefs, but hyperlinks.
>I know that they can be validated on insertion, but I'm looking for
>something to run as a QA/QC function before generating a set of HTML
>files from the FM book.

You may start the hypertext validation using a key combination:  Escape v h
(three separate keystrokes; validates the current document or selected 
documents in book)
This validation is not full-proof, but is still of value.

There is also a sample BadLinks plug-in provided with the FrameMaker 
Developer Kit.
After it is compiled and installed (adds an entry under File > Utilities > 
Document Reports), the plug-in generates a report of unresolved hypertext 
markers.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants




Validating all hypertext links in a FM book?

2007-12-21 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:25:03 -0700, "Grant Hogarth" 
 wrote:

>I've looked in the help and queried the archives, but have been unable
>to find the answer to the following:
>Is there a way to validate all the hypertext links in a book?  Not
>xrefs, but hyperlinks.
>I know that they can be validated on insertion, but I'm looking for
>something to run as a QA/QC function before generating a set of HTML
>files from the FM book.

Mif2Go, which you have, does that when you convert to HTML or XML.  
See par. 4.2.5, "Checking for broken links", in the User's Guide.  
We generate a Book Error Log in Frame that links directly to any 
links that did not resolve while running the book.

HTH!


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/


Text flow oddity

2007-12-21 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Grant:

Search Google for framemaker text flow, framemaker parallel text
flows, and similar terms. There was a discussion of the problem on one
of the public FM lists or forums. One issue was that the old method of
incorporating a tiny frame of one or the other flow on left or right
master pages no longer worked. I'm not sure if the change occurred in
FM 6 or 7, or if this applies to your problem, but it's worth a bit of
search time. Perhaps other relevant topics will result.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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FrameUser's Archive

2007-12-21 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi all,



I just attempted to use the archive list at FrameUsers.com. Do I really
need to know what month a particular message was posted before I can get
an answer to an archived question? There seems to be no practical way to
dig through the archives. If I'm missing something incredibly obvious,
feel free to scold me on this.





Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354





imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

2007-12-21 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi all,



(FM 7.2 on Windows)



I am trying to import an Adobe Illustrator .eps file into FrameMaker 7.2
but it comes in as a gray box. Is there a way to have it appear as
intended? And why does it come in as a gray box?



I know this has been mentioned before but I couldn't dig through the
archives easily.





Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354





imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

2007-12-21 Thread Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)
Are you creating the EPS with a TIFF preview?
FrameMaker needs the TIFF preview to display on screen. 

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jon Harvey
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:07 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

Hi all,



(FM 7.2 on Windows)



I am trying to import an Adobe Illustrator .eps file into FrameMaker 7.2
but it comes in as a gray box. Is there a way to have it appear as
intended? And why does it come in as a gray box?



I know this has been mentioned before but I couldn't dig through the
archives easily.





Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354



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imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

2007-12-21 Thread Jon Harvey
The illustrator Save As box does not provide the option to save with
Tiff preview. Or any other option for that matter. The Illustrator help
says that the Save As box is where I set the Tiff preview option. Why
isn't the option there? This has become an Illustrator issue rather than
an FM issue. Sorry for the off-topic discussion.


Jon Harvey
Manager, Desktop Documentation
CambridgeSoft Corporation
100 CambridgePark Drive
Cambridge, MA 02140
(617) 588-9354
-Original Message-
From: Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [mailto:bga...@husky.ca] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:10 PM
To: Jon Harvey; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

Are you creating the EPS with a TIFF preview?
FrameMaker needs the TIFF preview to display on screen. 

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jon Harvey
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:07 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

Hi all,



(FM 7.2 on Windows)



I am trying to import an Adobe Illustrator .eps file into FrameMaker 7.2
but it comes in as a gray box. Is there a way to have it appear as
intended? And why does it come in as a gray box?



I know this has been mentioned before but I couldn't dig through the
archives easily.





Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354



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imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

2007-12-21 Thread Lester C. Smalley
In my copy of Illustrator (ver 10), I don't get to select including a
preview for the EPS image until after I click "save" from the Save As
command.  Then a new dialog opens that allow me to set the preview info,
as well as several other options.

- Lester 
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Information Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712
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On Friday, December 21, 2007 03:23 PM, Jon Harvey wrote:

| The illustrator Save As box does not provide the option to save with
| Tiff preview. Or any other option for that matter. The Illustrator
| help says that the Save As box is where I set the Tiff preview option.
| Why isn't the option there? This has become an Illustrator issue 
| rather than an FM issue. Sorry for the off-topic discussion.
| 
| Jon Harvey
| Manager, Desktop Documentation
| CambridgeSoft Corporation
| 100 CambridgePark Drive
| Cambridge, MA 02140
| (617) 588-9354


imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

2007-12-21 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Jon Harvey wrote:
> The illustrator Save As box does not provide the option to save with
> Tiff preview. 


Version and OS, please.

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com


Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8 don't work

2007-12-21 Thread Austin Meredith

>We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year 
>project. How could they have offered an "upgrade" that destroys hypertext?

Our Kouroo project now has 212,974 files that have already been saved 
as FM8 since we "upgraded" a few weeks ago, so going back to FM7 
seems difficult. We are, however, beginning to scheme a feasible 
"workaround" to give Adobe time to get its act together in regard to 
hypertext and FM8. FM8 does allow us to save an FM8 file in the FM7 
format, and FM7 does generate valid hypertext in an Acrobat document. 
So, *if* we can have both FM8 and FM7 installed at the same time (if 
there is a way to keep them from interfering with each other), and 
*if* we don't use any UNICODE or other features that would be 
destroyed in the retro-save as FM7 (and if Acrobat8.1 can still 
handle hypertext), a possible "workaround" would be: to first save an 
FM8 document as a FM7 document before attempting to generate any 
Acrobat8.1 document with hypertext. That seems feasible if it's doable.

The three questions associated with this feasible "workaround" would 
be: 1.) is there a way to have FM8 and still have FM7 also? --and, 
2.) are there any new FM8 features that we cannot allow to be 
destroyed by saving as FM7? --and, 3.) does the 8.1 version of 
Acrobat still accept hypertext?

Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Are the above three items doable? 




Hypertext links in Acrobat8 documents generated from FM8don't work

2007-12-21 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Austin,

I have FrameMaker 5.5.6, 6.0, 7.0, 7.2, and 8.0 installed on the same 
computer. When going back and forth from 7.x to 8.0, you may have issues 
with characters changing. For example, I had some Zapf Dingbat characters 
that changed when I upgraded a document to 8.0.

If you need an automated way to convert your 8.0 documents back to 7.x 
format, let me know. You could do this with a FrameScript script.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


>
>>We are feeling as if Adobe has just sabotaged our entire 15-year
>>project. How could they have offered an "upgrade" that destroys hypertext?
>
> Our Kouroo project now has 212,974 files that have already been saved
> as FM8 since we "upgraded" a few weeks ago, so going back to FM7
> seems difficult. We are, however, beginning to scheme a feasible
> "workaround" to give Adobe time to get its act together in regard to
> hypertext and FM8. FM8 does allow us to save an FM8 file in the FM7
> format, and FM7 does generate valid hypertext in an Acrobat document.
> So, *if* we can have both FM8 and FM7 installed at the same time (if
> there is a way to keep them from interfering with each other), and
> *if* we don't use any UNICODE or other features that would be
> destroyed in the retro-save as FM7 (and if Acrobat8.1 can still
> handle hypertext), a possible "workaround" would be: to first save an
> FM8 document as a FM7 document before attempting to generate any
> Acrobat8.1 document with hypertext. That seems feasible if it's doable.
>
> The three questions associated with this feasible "workaround" would
> be: 1.) is there a way to have FM8 and still have FM7 also? --and,
> 2.) are there any new FM8 features that we cannot allow to be
> destroyed by saving as FM7? --and, 3.) does the 8.1 version of
> Acrobat still accept hypertext?
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Are the above three items 
> doable?



OT: Setting Modification Date From Commandline

2007-12-21 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Framers,

I am looking for a command line program that will allow me to set the 
modification date and time of a file. Thanks for any suggestions.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



Setting Modification Date From Commandline

2007-12-21 Thread Andrew Warren
Rick Quatro wrote:

> I am looking for a command line program that will allow me to set
> the modification date and time of a file.

Rick:

A Google search for something like "file timestamp windows" will find hundreds 
of freeware Windows utilities for setting a file's timestamp arbitrarily... But 
if you just want to set a file's timestamp to the current time -- like the Unix 
"touch" command -- you can do it from the DOS command line with:

  copy /b FILENAME.EXT +,,

Microsoft suggests this batch file to make it even easier:

  @echo off
  if %1.==. goto end
  if not exist %1 goto end
  copy /b %1 +,, > nul
  echo %1 touched.
  :end

Save the file somewhere in your path as touch.bat, then just type:

  touch FILENAME.EXT

to set FILENAME.EXT's timestamp.

-Andrew



Validating all hypertext links in a FM book?

2007-12-21 Thread Grant Hogarth
Thank you Michael!!

I've been using FM since version 2.0, and I have to admit that if I ever knew 
this shortcut, I had long since forgotten it!

Cheers
Grant


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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael 
M?ller-Hillebrand
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 1:35 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Validating all hypertext links in a FM book?

Hi Grant,

In addition to the validation of cross-references during book updates  
there is another, not very well-known feature of FrameMaker to  
validate Hypertext links based on gotolink markers. The keyboard  
shortcut should be

Esc v h (presumably for: validate hypertext)

I guess it works, like the cross-reference checks, from file to file  
and does not take into account if a target document is part of the  
current book.

- Michael


Am 20.12.2007 um 17:25 schrieb Grant Hogarth:

> I've looked in the help and queried the archives, but have been unable
> to find the answer to the following:
> Is there a way to validate all the hypertext links in a book?  Not
> xrefs, but hyperlinks.
> I know that they can be validated on insertion, but I'm looking for
> something to run as a QA/QC function before generating a set of HTML
> files from the FM book.

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OT: Documenting Multiple Baseline Versions of Software

2007-12-21 Thread Lynette Schwend
Due to the implementation of baseline releases of our software (i.e.
1.1, 1.2, etc.), our support department is requesting final
documentation within 60 days of the release to assist with customer
support and for accountability/liability purposes. To provide some
history, our techcomm group of three used to provide printed
documentation and moved on to CD distribution. Currently, we distribute
CDs to new customers, existing customers facing a complete version
upgrade (i.e. 1.0 to 2.0) and upon request. We also offer documentation
access to everyone via our web site. Our development department as a
whole, has also progressed by providing readmes, preliminary
documentation and final documentation online, as soon as it is
completed. With limited technical writer resources, we are considerably
outnumbered by programmers and testers. However, even if we hire an
extra resource, we are curious to know how far other companies go to
provide the most current final documentation between complete version
releases, as it does require our small group to maintain each baseline
version (i.e. documentation for 1.1, 1.2, etc.) for CDs and online
links. Is this realistic? Do other companies provide final documentation
for "in-between" versions or only for each complete version upgrade? In
addition, we do have a disclaimer stating that documentation from our
group is subject to change but is that enough to protect us?



I appreciate any ideas offered. Thanks!



Lynette Schwend

Technical Communications Analyst