[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
An update I just tried to create a shared review with the patched Acrobat 9.1, and I can't save the modified file anywhere -- not the local drive or any of several networked drives. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of > applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little > strange. > > (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the > complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security > hole, but I don't _know_ that.) > > In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran > 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I > shut it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. > > At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared > review on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The > review server is also acting flakey. > > Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? > > Thanks, > Art > > Art Campbell > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com > ?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers apply. > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358 >
[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
I would try rebooting the computer to clear out memory and recover any that leaked. When it comes up again, open the CS4 version only and see if that makes a difference. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > It WAS a vain hope. For the moment, I can still open my AI and EPS files > in Illy 9, but not in CS 4 (Illy 14). The "not enough memory to open > illustration" error persists -- although at the moment I have Outlook > 2003, Frame 7p1, and Illustrator 9 open -- and am only using about 2 > percent of my CPU resources. > > Any ideas on what to do next? > > Jim > > -Original Message- > From: Pinkham, Jim > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:13 PM > To: 'Art Campbell'; Free Framers; FrameUsers List; > TCS-Users at googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's > Acrobat and Reader patches? > > Art, I am two weeks into the trial of Illy CS 4 and suddenly began > encountering the dreaded "Not enough memory" error right after accepting > the Reader "upgrade" this morning. It was a bit mortifying, to say the > least, to not be able to open any of my graphics files with Illustrator! > I immediately uninstalled Reader 9.1, rebooted, and reinstalled the > Illustrator CS 4 trial. Then off to lunch, and just back. I'm hoping for > the best, and about to learn whether that is a vain hope or not. > > I'm running Frame 7p1 for the moment (though will be testing TCS2 very > soon). Also using Acrobat Pro 6 (another reason why I'm ready to test > TCS). System is XP SP 2, and I have 2 GB of RAM. > > Jim > > > *** > Jim Pinkham > Product Documentation Designer > Voith Paper Fiber Systems > Appleton, WI ?54911-8687 > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:29 PM > To: Free Framers; FrameUsers List; TCS-Users at googlegroups.com > Subject: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat > and Reader patches? > > I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of > applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little > strange. > > (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the > complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security hole, > but I don't _know_ that.) > > In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran > 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I shut > it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. > > At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared review > on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The review > server is also acting flakey. > > Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? > > Thanks, > Art > > Art Campbell > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com > ?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers > apply. > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jim.pinkham at voith.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. > com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Trial version of FrameMaker 9
I installed the 9.0 trial version along side my already installed 7.2 and both seemed to work fine. I even had them running at the same time on my XP Pro machine. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of William Abernathy Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:19 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Trial version of FrameMaker 9 While we're on the topic...Frame 9 won't pave over my Frame 7.1, right? --William Combs, Richard wrote: > Madeleine r Dimond wrote: > >> I have been assigned the task of evaluating FrameMaker 9. Before I > install >> the trial version, I wanted to ask whether it will interfere with my >> FrameMaker 8 installation; I'd hate for the trial version to uninstall > the >> previous version. I'm on Windows XP SP2 with FrameMaker 8.0p277. > > FM 9 will politely coexist with FM 8. FM has always been very good about > allowing multiple versions on one PC, each in its own installation > directory. The only caveat is that the Windows file associations will be > updated so that .fm, .book, and .mif point to FM 9. But it's a simple > matter to change them back to FM 8 in Windows Explorer. > Richard ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jharvey at cambridgesoft.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridges oft.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Anyone know where to find BeauxIX c. FM 6?
BeauIX was a plug-in for massaging indexes last heard of for FM 6 (although a ghost lurks on the Leximation tools pages). Does anyone know where to find Stefan Petrucha or a reliable download site for BeauIX? I take it he does not write mystery stories for teens in his spare time (just Google). Regards, Hedley -- Hedley Finger 28 Regent Street Camberwell VIC 3124 Australia Tel: +61 3 9809 1229 Fax: (call phone first) Mobile (cell): +61 412 461 558 Skype: hedley.finger Email. "Hedley Finger"
[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
Is it possible that the new releases use more memory, and are running into a memory hardware problem? Can you run a diagnostic on the RAM chips, or at least swap their positions and reseat them? Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > It WAS a vain hope. For the moment, I can still open my AI and EPS files > in Illy 9, but not in CS 4 (Illy 14). The "not enough memory to open > illustration" error persists -- although at the moment I have Outlook > 2003, Frame 7p1, and Illustrator 9 open -- and am only using about 2 > percent of my CPU resources. > > Any ideas on what to do next? > --
[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
It WAS a vain hope. For the moment, I can still open my AI and EPS files in Illy 9, but not in CS 4 (Illy 14). The "not enough memory to open illustration" error persists -- although at the moment I have Outlook 2003, Frame 7p1, and Illustrator 9 open -- and am only using about 2 percent of my CPU resources. Any ideas on what to do next? Jim -Original Message- From: Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:13 PM To: 'Art Campbell'; Free Framers; FrameUsers List; TCS-Users at googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches? Art, I am two weeks into the trial of Illy CS 4 and suddenly began encountering the dreaded "Not enough memory" error right after accepting the Reader "upgrade" this morning. It was a bit mortifying, to say the least, to not be able to open any of my graphics files with Illustrator! I immediately uninstalled Reader 9.1, rebooted, and reinstalled the Illustrator CS 4 trial. Then off to lunch, and just back. I'm hoping for the best, and about to learn whether that is a vain hope or not. I'm running Frame 7p1 for the moment (though will be testing TCS2 very soon). Also using Acrobat Pro 6 (another reason why I'm ready to test TCS). System is XP SP 2, and I have 2 GB of RAM. Jim *** Jim Pinkham Product Documentation Designer Voith Paper Fiber Systems Appleton, WI 54911-8687 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:29 PM To: Free Framers; FrameUsers List; TCS-Users at googlegroups.com Subject: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches? I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little strange. (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security hole, but I don't _know_ that.) In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I shut it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared review on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The review server is also acting flakey. Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? Thanks, Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jim.pinkham at voith.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat andReader patches?
Lea Rush wrote: > Thank you for posting this, Art. Once I checked, I found that all my Start > Menu shortcuts were invalidated. They still exist, but they have no icon and > point to nothing. Quite fixable, but very strange. I had this happen too ... indeed strange. I did not bother to check to see what they were pointing to (I suspect the executable got renamed ... a SWAG). But, everything else seems to be working normally otherwise. Touch wood ... Thanks! Z
[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat andReader patches?
Pinkham, Jim wrote: > It WAS a vain hope. For the moment, I can still open my AI and EPS files > in Illy 9, but not in CS 4 (Illy 14). The "not enough memory to open > illustration" error persists -- although at the moment I have Outlook > 2003, Frame 7p1, and Illustrator 9 open -- and am only using about 2 > percent of my CPU resources. Your CPU usage is completely unrelated to your memory usage. The former relates to how much processing is being done at the moment (e.g., generating a gradient fill). The latter relates to how many applications and files you have open. If you have 30 files open in FM or AI, you're using a lot of memory even when the applications are idle (using no CPU time). Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Moderately Urgent! Cross-references within multiply used text insets
I have a file which uses text insets repeatedly. That is to say, the same text inset is imported more than once AS an inset. Each inset has cross-references to information within the inset only. Before I print to PDF, I convert the insets to text and regenerate so that the cross-references become clickable. The problem is that only the FIRST instance of each text inset use has clickable links. Every succeeding instance links back to the first instance, not to the current position. Right now I'm manually updating, but for the next time I use this document, I'd like to know if there's a faster/better way of doing this. These insets allowed me to write about 50 pages instead of 250, so I don't want to convert them to text and leave them that way. It'd be a maintenance nightmare. On the other hand, manually updating a couple hundred links isn't my idea of fun, either. Help! Perts: Windows XP, SP3 Frame 8, p277 Acrobat 7 I do not have FrameScript. -- Lin Sims
Re: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
An update I just tried to create a shared review with the patched Acrobat 9.1, and I can't save the modified file anywhere -- not the local drive or any of several networked drives. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of > applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little > strange. > > (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the > complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security > hole, but I don't _know_ that.) > > In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran > 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I > shut it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. > > At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared > review on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The > review server is also acting flakey. > > Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? > > Thanks, > Art > > Art Campbell > art.campb...@gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat andReader patches?
Lea Rush wrote: > Thank you for posting this, Art. Once I checked, I found that all my Start > Menu shortcuts were invalidated. They still exist, but they have no icon and > point to nothing. Quite fixable, but very strange. I had this happen too ... indeed strange. I did not bother to check to see what they were pointing to (I suspect the executable got renamed ... a SWAG). But, everything else seems to be working normally otherwise. Touch wood ... Thanks! Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat andReader patches?
Pinkham, Jim wrote: > It WAS a vain hope. For the moment, I can still open my AI and EPS files > in Illy 9, but not in CS 4 (Illy 14). The "not enough memory to open > illustration" error persists -- although at the moment I have Outlook > 2003, Frame 7p1, and Illustrator 9 open -- and am only using about 2 > percent of my CPU resources. Your CPU usage is completely unrelated to your memory usage. The former relates to how much processing is being done at the moment (e.g., generating a gradient fill). The latter relates to how many applications and files you have open. If you have 30 files open in FM or AI, you're using a lot of memory even when the applications are idle (using no CPU time). Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
Is it possible that the new releases use more memory, and are running into a memory hardware problem? Can you run a diagnostic on the RAM chips, or at least swap their positions and reseat them? Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > It WAS a vain hope. For the moment, I can still open my AI and EPS files > in Illy 9, but not in CS 4 (Illy 14). The "not enough memory to open > illustration" error persists -- although at the moment I have Outlook > 2003, Frame 7p1, and Illustrator 9 open -- and am only using about 2 > percent of my CPU resources. > > Any ideas on what to do next? > -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
I would try rebooting the computer to clear out memory and recover any that leaked. When it comes up again, open the CS4 version only and see if that makes a difference. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > It WAS a vain hope. For the moment, I can still open my AI and EPS files > in Illy 9, but not in CS 4 (Illy 14). The "not enough memory to open > illustration" error persists -- although at the moment I have Outlook > 2003, Frame 7p1, and Illustrator 9 open -- and am only using about 2 > percent of my CPU resources. > > Any ideas on what to do next? > > Jim > > -Original Message- > From: Pinkham, Jim > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:13 PM > To: 'Art Campbell'; Free Framers; FrameUsers List; > tcs-us...@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's > Acrobat and Reader patches? > > Art, I am two weeks into the trial of Illy CS 4 and suddenly began > encountering the dreaded "Not enough memory" error right after accepting > the Reader "upgrade" this morning. It was a bit mortifying, to say the > least, to not be able to open any of my graphics files with Illustrator! > I immediately uninstalled Reader 9.1, rebooted, and reinstalled the > Illustrator CS 4 trial. Then off to lunch, and just back. I'm hoping for > the best, and about to learn whether that is a vain hope or not. > > I'm running Frame 7p1 for the moment (though will be testing TCS2 very > soon). Also using Acrobat Pro 6 (another reason why I'm ready to test > TCS). System is XP SP 2, and I have 2 GB of RAM. > > Jim > > > *** > Jim Pinkham > Product Documentation Designer > Voith Paper Fiber Systems > Appleton, WI 54911-8687 > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:29 PM > To: Free Framers; FrameUsers List; tcs-us...@googlegroups.com > Subject: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat > and Reader patches? > > I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of > applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little > strange. > > (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the > complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security hole, > but I don't _know_ that.) > > In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran > 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I shut > it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. > > At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared review > on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The review > server is also acting flakey. > > Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? > > Thanks, > Art > > Art Campbell > art.campb...@gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers > apply. > DoD 358 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jim.pink...@voith.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. > com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Trial version of FrameMaker 9
I installed the 9.0 trial version along side my already installed 7.2 and both seemed to work fine. I even had them running at the same time on my XP Pro machine. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of William Abernathy Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:19 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Trial version of FrameMaker 9 While we're on the topic...Frame 9 won't pave over my Frame 7.1, right? --William Combs, Richard wrote: > Madeleine r Dimond wrote: > >> I have been assigned the task of evaluating FrameMaker 9. Before I > install >> the trial version, I wanted to ask whether it will interfere with my >> FrameMaker 8 installation; I'd hate for the trial version to uninstall > the >> previous version. I'm on Windows XP SP2 with FrameMaker 8.0p277. > > FM 9 will politely coexist with FM 8. FM has always been very good about > allowing multiple versions on one PC, each in its own installation > directory. The only caveat is that the Windows file associations will be > updated so that .fm, .book, and .mif point to FM 9. But it's a simple > matter to change them back to FM 8 in Windows Explorer. > Richard ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jhar...@cambridgesoft.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridges oft.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
It WAS a vain hope. For the moment, I can still open my AI and EPS files in Illy 9, but not in CS 4 (Illy 14). The "not enough memory to open illustration" error persists -- although at the moment I have Outlook 2003, Frame 7p1, and Illustrator 9 open -- and am only using about 2 percent of my CPU resources. Any ideas on what to do next? Jim -Original Message- From: Pinkham, Jim Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:13 PM To: 'Art Campbell'; Free Framers; FrameUsers List; tcs-us...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches? Art, I am two weeks into the trial of Illy CS 4 and suddenly began encountering the dreaded "Not enough memory" error right after accepting the Reader "upgrade" this morning. It was a bit mortifying, to say the least, to not be able to open any of my graphics files with Illustrator! I immediately uninstalled Reader 9.1, rebooted, and reinstalled the Illustrator CS 4 trial. Then off to lunch, and just back. I'm hoping for the best, and about to learn whether that is a vain hope or not. I'm running Frame 7p1 for the moment (though will be testing TCS2 very soon). Also using Acrobat Pro 6 (another reason why I'm ready to test TCS). System is XP SP 2, and I have 2 GB of RAM. Jim *** Jim Pinkham Product Documentation Designer Voith Paper Fiber Systems Appleton, WI 54911-8687 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:29 PM To: Free Framers; FrameUsers List; tcs-us...@googlegroups.com Subject: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches? I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little strange. (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security hole, but I don't _know_ that.) In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I shut it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared review on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The review server is also acting flakey. Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? Thanks, Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jim.pink...@voith.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little strange. (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security hole, but I don't _know_ that.) In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I shut it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared review on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The review server is also acting flakey. Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? Thanks, Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
Art, I am two weeks into the trial of Illy CS 4 and suddenly began encountering the dreaded "Not enough memory" error right after accepting the Reader "upgrade" this morning. It was a bit mortifying, to say the least, to not be able to open any of my graphics files with Illustrator! I immediately uninstalled Reader 9.1, rebooted, and reinstalled the Illustrator CS 4 trial. Then off to lunch, and just back. I'm hoping for the best, and about to learn whether that is a vain hope or not. I'm running Frame 7p1 for the moment (though will be testing TCS2 very soon). Also using Acrobat Pro 6 (another reason why I'm ready to test TCS). System is XP SP 2, and I have 2 GB of RAM. Jim *** Jim Pinkham Product Documentation Designer Voith Paper Fiber Systems Appleton, WI 54911-8687 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:29 PM To: Free Framers; FrameUsers List; TCS-Users at googlegroups.com Subject: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches? I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little strange. (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security hole, but I don't _know_ that.) In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I shut it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared review on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The review server is also acting flakey. Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? Thanks, Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jim.pinkham at voith.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 8 crashes again and again
Fair enough I include my system details below. I suspect that my problem has to do with the Framemaker source files as the rest is unchanged from FM version 7.2 apart from my Windows Service pack 3. In particular Fm crashes when encountering files with text insets in tables on master pages or sometimes when I change the object properties on body pages and remove the "room for sidehad setting" My system settings: Windows xp sp 3 FM8.0p277 2 GB ram 756 MB virtual memory Acrobat Profession 7.2 Files on server Graphics are .png imported by reference Lots of text insets used by several books Best regards, Verner Radiometer Medical ApS ?kandevej 21 2700 Br?nsh?j Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: 12. marts 2009 12:19 To: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 8 crashes again and again On my systems, 8 is more stable than 7 was, especially on book actions. 9 is also fine. Given others' experiences, I'd guess that your problems are caused by one or more things in your environment, but you didn't provide any details. If you provide some details on your system (FM and Acrobat versions, OS, RAM, temp space) and your environment (files local or on a server, type of graphics and imported by reference or copied, and so on) I'm sure the usual suspects would be happy to generate some things to look at. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June > last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. > > It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot > see action that should cause the crash. > > Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > verner.andersen at radiometer.dk > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or > re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, > please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone > (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any > attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, > any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the > foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any > digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is > included in any attachment to this email. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gma > il.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email.
Re: FM 8 crashes again and again
We've been on Frame 8 for nearly a year now and it's very stable in our environment (Win XP and 2000). In fact, I can't really remember any crashes or lock-ups. Cheers Dave Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote, on 12/03/2009 10:56 p.m.: > I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June > last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. > > It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot see > action that should cause the crash. > > Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > verner.ander...@radiometer.dk > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or > re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, > please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone > (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any > attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, > any > contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the > foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any > digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is > > included in any attachment to this email. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as dave.reyno...@tait.co.nz. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dave.reynolds%40tait.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Dave Reynolds Phone: (64) (3) 358 1029 Senior Technical Author Fax: (64) (3) 359 4632 Tait Electronics Ltd Email: dave.reyno...@tait.co.nz PO Box 1645 Christchurch New Zealand === This email, including any attachments, is only for the intended addressee. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may be the subject of legal or other privilege, none of which is waived or lost by reason of this transmission. If the receiver is not the intended addressee, please accept our apologies, notify us by return, delete all copies and perform no other act on the email. Unfortunately, we cannot warrant that the email has not been altered or corrupted during transmission. === ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
in .pdf header?
I'm working in FrameMaker 7.2 and have 20+ books based on a boilerplate template. In a .pdf of one of the books, instead of seeing the current page number (1, 2, and so forth) in the header, I saw every page number, prefixed with "". The other books show the page number without the prefix. So, I compared the headers in Master Pages of the problematic book with the boilerplate template Master Pages. The Master Pages header of the problematic book shows "Running H/F 1 #" (without question marks). When I select "#" and look at Variables, it translates to Current Page # and when I click Edit I see "<$curpagenum>". In the boilerplate template Master Pages (and Master Pages of other books), the variable is "Running H/F 1 #" and the pound sign is in red. When I select the "#" and look at Variables, it translates to Current Page #. When I click Edit, I see "<$curpagenum>". So, what I'm seeing in the problematic book Master Pages breaks down in Variables to being the same as what I see in the other books. It's the appearance of the variable in Master Pages that is different. I've searched FrameMaker Help and this list for info about and about displaying variables, without success. I've reimported variables from the boilerplate template without success. Is there a display setting that is causing this problem? Is the construction of the variables the problem? What does the red color on the # sign mean? How do I fix this problem? I've learned a lot about FrameMaker by following the discourse on this list, thanks to all you EXPERTS who provide the answers! Hope you can help me with this issue. Bill Rost Technical Writer Retalix USA 5210 E. Williams Circle, Suite 300 Direct: (520) 298-7757 x 3192 Main: (520) 298-7757 Fax: (520) 747-1660 "You can't push a rope." - old cowboy saying
FM 8 crashes again and again
Hi Verner, I didn't count, but I have the same experience. Indeed, FM7 was A LOT more stable and robust. I haven't really put FM 9 to the test for production work yet. I assume the Adobe folks are also monitoring this list, let's hope they've "listened" to the users. FrameMaker has always been renowned for its stability. I hope it will stay that way. Cheers Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu
[no subject]
I'm not sure I fully understand the problem. I presume the Para f:* footnote ref" isn't what I would call a tag, but a style? This may be worth a try: Select all of one of the errant paragraphs. Open the character designer dialog (Format/Characters/Designer) Change Character Tag to Default Paragraph Font (or whatever is appropriate for your paragraph). De-select the superscript check-box and click Apply. (I applied a footnote character format to a whole paragraph of text in one of my documents, and when I tried to change it back to normal paragraph text it retained the footnote formatting until I did the above. It needed to be manually told that it shouldn't be a superscript any more.) Alternatively, the easiest solution may be to copy the text to a text editor, delete the text from your document, and paste it back in from the text editor. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:26 AM, wrote: > > FM7.2 > > > > Some paragraphs in a document I inherited have 'Para f:*footnote ref' as a > paragraph tag. I have been unable to remove the reference to 'f:*footnote > ref.' I've tried retagging with the correct tag, selecting the text and > applying Default Font - I've found nothing that works. What else should I > try? > > > > Chris > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as Daniel.Frankham at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/daniel.frankham%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Moderately Urgent! Cross-references within multiply used text insets
I have a file which uses text insets repeatedly. That is to say, the same text inset is imported more than once AS an inset. Each inset has cross-references to information within the inset only. Before I print to PDF, I convert the insets to text and regenerate so that the cross-references become clickable. The problem is that only the FIRST instance of each text inset use has clickable links. Every succeeding instance links back to the first instance, not to the current position. Right now I'm manually updating, but for the next time I use this document, I'd like to know if there's a faster/better way of doing this. These insets allowed me to write about 50 pages instead of 250, so I don't want to convert them to text and leave them that way. It'd be a maintenance nightmare. On the other hand, manually updating a couple hundred links isn't my idea of fun, either. Help! Perts: Windows XP, SP3 Frame 8, p277 Acrobat 7 I do not have FrameScript. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Visio to FMKR
Hi all Framers I need to add some Visio flows (currently in Word) that take up the size of a full portrait page. I copied and used paste special > Bitmap into a portrait FrameMaker page. The Visio fit fine on one page, but it jumped to the next page. I had the cursor at the top of a regular page. I'm thinking of creating a Master page with a smaller header to give a little more space. Does anyone have other suggestions, or is there any problem with my approach. Thanks, Sue Curtzwiler susancu at vmc.com
FM, single-sourcing 101
It really depends on how much reuse you have and how much of an investment you want to put into this, or if you can afford to invest in an outsourcing company to help with you with the conversion and training. When I came to my current company they were using Unstructured Frame, but were not using any of it's single-sourcing capabilities. Our company has some similar products that have a few chapters that are almost identical. For those products I made a separate books for each product, and shared the chapters that were almost identical between the books, with conditional text marking the differences within the shared chapters. There is another product that has a few versions that are almost identical, accept for a few sections. For that product I have everything in one book, with conditional text for those sections. I also have some sections (like Technical Support) that I save in separate Frame files and insert them into all the manuals as text insets. The shared chapters and text insets I store in a central location. It's tempting for me to move to Structured Frame, but that would require a lot of time to set it up, to learn, and to convert the content. I don't think the needs of my company require that investment. Whether your company would benefit from Structured Frame or Structured Frame + DITA depends on how much reuse of content there is, whether they translate into other languages, etc. The single-sourcing features of Unstructured Frame are not that hard to learn, and you could implement it at your own pace. Good luck. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Joel wrote: > I am using Frame 8. I have a set of seven manuals that are close to 100 > pages each. Many sections of these manuals are identical, some sections > differ in detail in minor ways, and fewer sections differ in more > substantial ways. Currently they are all Frame books with each chapter being > its own file within the book. There is no re-use of anything at the moment. > > This is becoming increasingly burdensome to maintain, as a change to > something that appears in all seven manuals requires me to make that change > manually in all seven files. I would like to get to re-use, or > single-sourcing, but I?m puzzled as to how to get there. Would the best > strategy be: > > (a) To use conditional text and generate several versions; > > (b) To try and convert everything to XML and sew things together based on > individual XML files; > > (c) Something else? > I have zero XML knowledge, and whenever I read about it, my head hurts. I am > willing to learn, but the benefit needs to be commensurate with the pain > involved in learning. I?m looking for the simplest solution that allows for > some common source material using my existing Frame configuration. Ideas are > appreciated. > Joel > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
RE: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
Thank you for posting this, Art. Once I checked, I found that all my Start Menu shortcuts were invalidated. They still exist, but they have no icon and point to nothing. Quite fixable, but very strange. Thanks again, Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 PH: 800-657-3010 FAX: 503-655-7367 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:29 AM To: Free Framers; FrameUsers List; tcs-us...@googlegroups.com Subject: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches? I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little strange. (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security hole, but I don't _know_ that.) In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I shut it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared review on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The review server is also acting flakey. Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? Thanks, Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as l...@astoria-pacific.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lea%40astoria-pacific.co m Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
Thank you for posting this, Art. Once I checked, I found that all my Start Menu shortcuts were invalidated. They still exist, but they have no icon and point to nothing. Quite fixable, but very strange. Thanks again, Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 PH: 800-657-3010 FAX:? 503-655-7367 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:29 AM To: Free Framers; FrameUsers List; TCS-Users at googlegroups.com Subject: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches? I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little strange. (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security hole, but I don't _know_ that.) In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I shut it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared review on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The review server is also acting flakey. Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? Thanks, Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as lea at astoria-pacific.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lea%40astoria-pacific.co m Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
re-use 101
I work in this way too. A number of books, with the common chapters the same, some text insets too. What I wanted to add, was not to forget to document what you are doing. Even if you are a lone writer, you may sometimes have time between working on books. I have a text file in each book directory reminding myself how I set it all up, which conditions should be applied when and whatever else is relevant. Caroline?Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer ??? Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email:?? caroline at radcom.com www.radcom.com www.protocols.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Susan Modlin Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:46 PM To: Flato, Gillian; Joel; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: re-use 101 Joel, I'm with Gillian on this one. Using this approach (and variables on title pages and in running headers and footers for book titles) I managed a pretty complex set of deliverables: two versions each of 10 major guides, and three versions of a training guide that contained pared-down chapters from each of the major guides. I also produced context sensitive help from the same set of FrameMaker source files. Because I used Frame 7.2, handling the conditions was tricky, but creative use of color (red + green = brown) enabled me to construct a system of 16 possible combinations that I could keep track of without too much trouble. The trick was to plan the whole thing out in advance, make it logical and easy to remember, and to be absolutely rigorous about not straying from the rules. As a one-woman department, I was tempted at times to do a little ad hoc conditionalizing, but I knew that the whole thing hinged on sticking to the structure I'd created. I'm sure others have done even more complicated schemes and as Gillian points out, it's easier and cheaper than DITA. ...Susan Gillian wrote: The easiest way to do it is the following: 1. Have 7 Frame book files 2. The book files can share chapter files that are mostly similar; likewise, they don't share chapters that are radically different for each manual. 3. Within the chapters, apply conditional text to the minor differences With this method, you simply set the conditions as needed before your build your book. When you build your book or PDF, you generate the manual and only the text conditioned to that manual displays. This is the method that I use. It's much easier, cheaper and manageable then DITA. -Gillian ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as caroline at radcom.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
Art, I am two weeks into the trial of Illy CS 4 and suddenly began encountering the dreaded "Not enough memory" error right after accepting the Reader "upgrade" this morning. It was a bit mortifying, to say the least, to not be able to open any of my graphics files with Illustrator! I immediately uninstalled Reader 9.1, rebooted, and reinstalled the Illustrator CS 4 trial. Then off to lunch, and just back. I'm hoping for the best, and about to learn whether that is a vain hope or not. I'm running Frame 7p1 for the moment (though will be testing TCS2 very soon). Also using Acrobat Pro 6 (another reason why I'm ready to test TCS). System is XP SP 2, and I have 2 GB of RAM. Jim *** Jim Pinkham Product Documentation Designer Voith Paper Fiber Systems Appleton, WI 54911-8687 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:29 PM To: Free Framers; FrameUsers List; tcs-us...@googlegroups.com Subject: [semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches? I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little strange. (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security hole, but I don't _know_ that.) In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I shut it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared review on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The review server is also acting flakey. Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? Thanks, Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jim.pink...@voith.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 8 crashes again and again
I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot see action that should cause the crash. Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 verner.andersen at radiometer.dk Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email.
[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
I'm working in a mixed Acrobat 8/9 environment, and in the wake of applying the 9.1 upgrade to my system, things have gotten a little strange. (Because some co-workers are running 8, I think they received the complementary 8 security patch to fix the Java execution security hole, but I don't _know_ that.) In any case, after the required system reboot, the first time I ran 9.1 Acrobat, some tools -- like the Comment set -- didn't exist. I shut it down and restarted Acrobat, and they showed up. At about the same time, my co-worker was working in 8 on a shared review on a remote server. Her existing comments didn't show up. The review server is also acting flakey. Any thoughts? Anyone having similar issues? Thanks, Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Dual page numbering
To get back to the original topic It sounds to me as if the solution would be a FrameScript that would do the absolute page counting outside the document and insert a text value based on the script's page count. And it would need a loop to remove existing numbers when you ran it to update. Any of you Scripters care to comment on whether that would work or not? The other tier, Chapter-PG numbering, is easy to set up inside FM. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Combs, Richard wrote: > John Sgammato wrote: > >> The bottom line: the customer asked for absolute page numbers, not an >> appraisal of his cognitive development ?;-) > > Well, that settles it, doesn't it? :-) > > I didn't realize this was your customer. I assumed that this was a > request from a peer or another dept. > > > > Richard > > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
FM 8 crashes again and again
Verner, If I was going to pick one thing to play with to see I could change the crash behaviour, it would be the text insets inside tables on master pages. That's the only thing that strikes me as possibly hard to process in your set up from the info you provided. I haven't used insets in tables myself, even in body pages. Unless you've turned updates Off on those insets, I think they'd be constantly trying to update themselves, possibly whenever a new body page is generated from them or they're otherwise referenced by the program. And because the insets are likely to be on a network location, there's an additional possibility of a network delay or timeout interrupting the process. Updating masters may also be the problem when you force an override to the layout by changing text container properties. To play with that idea a little bit, you might try making a copy of your working files and converting the text insets to text, so no updating is required. Then work with that copy a bit to see what happens. Just a thought. Cheers, Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > Fair enough > I include my system details below. > > I suspect that my problem has to do with the Framemaker source files as the > rest is unchanged from FM version 7.2 apart from my Windows Service pack 3. > In particular Fm crashes when encountering files with text insets in tables > on master pages or sometimes when I change the object properties on body > pages and remove the "room for sidehad setting" > > My system settings: > > Windows xp sp 3 > FM8.0p277 > 2 GB ram > 756 MB virtual memory > Acrobat Profession 7.2 > Files on server > Graphics are .png imported by reference > Lots of text insets used by several books > > Best regards, > > Verner > > > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > ?kandevej 21 > 2700 Br?nsh?j > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com] > Sent: 12. marts 2009 12:19 > To: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: FM 8 crashes again and again > > On my systems, 8 is more stable than 7 was, especially on book actions. 9 is > also fine. > > Given others' experiences, I'd guess that your problems are caused by one or > more things in your environment, but you didn't provide any details. > > If you provide some details on your system (FM and Acrobat versions, OS, RAM, > temp space) and your environment (files local or on a server, type of > graphics and imported by reference or copied, and so on) I'm sure the usual > suspects would be happy to generate some things to look at. > > Art > > Art Campbell > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com > ?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a > redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers apply. > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358 > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA at radiometer.dk> wrote: >> I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June >> last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. >> >> It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot >> see action that should cause the crash. >> >> Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? >> >> Med venlig hilsen - Best regards >> Verner Andersen >> Technical Writer >> >> Radiometer Medical ApS >> Phone +45 3827 3612 >> Fax +45 3827 2727 >> verner.andersen at radiometer.dk >> >> >> >> >> Radiometer Medical ApS >> Akandevej 21 >> 2700 Bronshoj >> Denmark >> Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 >> CVR: 27 50 91 85 >> >> >> >> Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. >> ?If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or >> re-transmit this email. ?If you have received this email in error, >> please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone >> (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any >> attachments. ?Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. >> >> In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of >> this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, >> any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the >> foregoing disclaimer does not inva
invisible mif2go files created in VPC on Mac
Graeme, If Virtual PC works even remotely similar to Fusion, then any of its files would exist only as part of some archive of the program, visible only from the program itself. This is probably very normal and not a problem. If so, your only alternative would be to export it from some Windows/ virtual PC program to a Mac folder, if Virtual PC allows that (I don't know the program). In Fusion it is child's play and can be done in several ways, the easiest being drag and drop from the virtual Windows desktop to the Mac's... Amnon. Graeme R Forbes (Graeme.Forbes at Colorado.EDU) said on 12/03/09 at 1:17 : >I'm trying to convert a MacFM 7 document to rtf, using mif2go plugged >into FM7.1 on XP in Virtual PC running in Classic under Tiger on my >Mac. I did this once before, a couple of months ago, no problem. This >time I do the exact same thing and I end up with the rtf file, I >think, but it's invisible on my Mac (even to "search for invisible >files") both in the Finder and to MacFM and Mac Word. But both >Windows FM and Windows Acrobat Reader can see the file (and others >that were created during the conversion). I don't have Windows Word >and need to be able to see the file outside Windows to work on it. >Any ideas why it remains stubbornly invisible on my Mac (even to file >utilities like FileExaminer)?
Dual page numbering
John Sgammato wrote: > The bottom line: the customer asked for absolute page numbers, not an > appraisal of his cognitive development ;-) Well, that settles it, doesn't it? :-) I didn't realize this was your customer. I assumed that this was a request from a peer or another dept. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
FM 8 crashes again and again
On my systems, 8 is more stable than 7 was, especially on book actions. 9 is also fine. Given others' experiences, I'd guess that your problems are caused by one or more things in your environment, but you didn't provide any details. If you provide some details on your system (FM and Acrobat versions, OS, RAM, temp space) and your environment (files local or on a server, type of graphics and imported by reference or copied, and so on) I'm sure the usual suspects would be happy to generate some things to look at. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June > last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. > > It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot see > action that should cause the crash. > > Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > verner.andersen at radiometer.dk > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. > ?If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or > re-transmit this email. ?If you have received this email in error, > please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone > (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any > attachments. ?Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, > any > contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the > foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any > digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is > included in any attachment to this email. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Re: Dual page numbering
To get back to the original topic It sounds to me as if the solution would be a FrameScript that would do the absolute page counting outside the document and insert a text value based on the script's page count. And it would need a loop to remove existing numbers when you ran it to update. Any of you Scripters care to comment on whether that would work or not? The other tier, Chapter-PG numbering, is easy to set up inside FM. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Combs, Richard wrote: > John Sgammato wrote: > >> The bottom line: the customer asked for absolute page numbers, not an >> appraisal of his cognitive development ;-) > > Well, that settles it, doesn't it? :-) > > I didn't realize this was your customer. I assumed that this was a > request from a peer or another dept. > > > > Richard > > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Dual page numbering
John Sgammato wrote: > The bottom line: the customer asked for absolute page numbers, not an > appraisal of his cognitive development ;-) Well, that settles it, doesn't it? :-) I didn't realize this was your customer. I assumed that this was a request from a peer or another dept. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 crashes again and again
Verner, If I was going to pick one thing to play with to see I could change the crash behaviour, it would be the text insets inside tables on master pages. That's the only thing that strikes me as possibly hard to process in your set up from the info you provided. I haven't used insets in tables myself, even in body pages. Unless you've turned updates Off on those insets, I think they'd be constantly trying to update themselves, possibly whenever a new body page is generated from them or they're otherwise referenced by the program. And because the insets are likely to be on a network location, there's an additional possibility of a network delay or timeout interrupting the process. Updating masters may also be the problem when you force an override to the layout by changing text container properties. To play with that idea a little bit, you might try making a copy of your working files and converting the text insets to text, so no updating is required. Then work with that copy a bit to see what happens. Just a thought. Cheers, Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > Fair enough > I include my system details below. > > I suspect that my problem has to do with the Framemaker source files as the > rest is unchanged from FM version 7.2 apart from my Windows Service pack 3. > In particular Fm crashes when encountering files with text insets in tables > on master pages or sometimes when I change the object properties on body > pages and remove the "room for sidehad setting" > > My system settings: > > Windows xp sp 3 > FM8.0p277 > 2 GB ram > 756 MB virtual memory > Acrobat Profession 7.2 > Files on server > Graphics are .png imported by reference > Lots of text insets used by several books > > Best regards, > > Verner > > > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Åkandevej 21 > 2700 Brønshøj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] > Sent: 12. marts 2009 12:19 > To: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: FM 8 crashes again and again > > On my systems, 8 is more stable than 7 was, especially on book actions. 9 is > also fine. > > Given others' experiences, I'd guess that your problems are caused by one or > more things in your environment, but you didn't provide any details. > > If you provide some details on your system (FM and Acrobat versions, OS, RAM, > temp space) and your environment (files local or on a server, type of > graphics and imported by reference or copied, and so on) I'm sure the usual > suspects would be happy to generate some things to look at. > > Art > > Art Campbell > art.campb...@gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a > redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA > wrote: >> I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June >> last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. >> >> It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot >> see action that should cause the crash. >> >> Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? >> >> Med venlig hilsen - Best regards >> Verner Andersen >> Technical Writer >> >> Radiometer Medical ApS >> Phone +45 3827 3612 >> Fax +45 3827 2727 >> verner.ander...@radiometer.dk >> >> >> >> >> Radiometer Medical ApS >> Akandevej 21 >> 2700 Bronshoj >> Denmark >> Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 >> CVR: 27 50 91 85 >> >> >> >> Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. >> If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or >> re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, >> please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone >> (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any >> attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. >> >> In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of >> this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, >> any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the >> foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of a
RE: FM 8 crashes again and again
Fair enough I include my system details below. I suspect that my problem has to do with the Framemaker source files as the rest is unchanged from FM version 7.2 apart from my Windows Service pack 3. In particular Fm crashes when encountering files with text insets in tables on master pages or sometimes when I change the object properties on body pages and remove the "room for sidehad setting" My system settings: Windows xp sp 3 FM8.0p277 2 GB ram 756 MB virtual memory Acrobat Profession 7.2 Files on server Graphics are .png imported by reference Lots of text insets used by several books Best regards, Verner Radiometer Medical ApS Åkandevej 21 2700 Brønshøj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: 12. marts 2009 12:19 To: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 8 crashes again and again On my systems, 8 is more stable than 7 was, especially on book actions. 9 is also fine. Given others' experiences, I'd guess that your problems are caused by one or more things in your environment, but you didn't provide any details. If you provide some details on your system (FM and Acrobat versions, OS, RAM, temp space) and your environment (files local or on a server, type of graphics and imported by reference or copied, and so on) I'm sure the usual suspects would be happy to generate some things to look at. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June > last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. > > It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot > see action that should cause the crash. > > Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > verner.ander...@radiometer.dk > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or > re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, > please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone > (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any > attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, > any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the > foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any > digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is > included in any attachment to this email. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gma > il.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameuse
Re: FM 8 crashes again and again
On my systems, 8 is more stable than 7 was, especially on book actions. 9 is also fine. Given others' experiences, I'd guess that your problems are caused by one or more things in your environment, but you didn't provide any details. If you provide some details on your system (FM and Acrobat versions, OS, RAM, temp space) and your environment (files local or on a server, type of graphics and imported by reference or copied, and so on) I'm sure the usual suspects would be happy to generate some things to look at. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June > last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. > > It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot see > action that should cause the crash. > > Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > verner.ander...@radiometer.dk > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or > re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, > please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone > (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any > attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, > any > contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the > foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any > digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is > included in any attachment to this email. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 crashes again and again
Hi Verner, I didn't count, but I have the same experience. Indeed, FM7 was A LOT more stable and robust. I haven't really put FM 9 to the test for production work yet. I assume the Adobe folks are also monitoring this list, let's hope they've "listened" to the users. FrameMaker has always been renowned for its stability. I hope it will stay that way. Cheers Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 8 crashes again and again
I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot see action that should cause the crash. Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 verner.ander...@radiometer.dk Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM, single-sourcing 101
It really depends on how much reuse you have and how much of an investment you want to put into this, or if you can afford to invest in an outsourcing company to help with you with the conversion and training. When I came to my current company they were using Unstructured Frame, but were not using any of it's single-sourcing capabilities. Our company has some similar products that have a few chapters that are almost identical. For those products I made a separate books for each product, and shared the chapters that were almost identical between the books, with conditional text marking the differences within the shared chapters. There is another product that has a few versions that are almost identical, accept for a few sections. For that product I have everything in one book, with conditional text for those sections. I also have some sections (like Technical Support) that I save in separate Frame files and insert them into all the manuals as text insets. The shared chapters and text insets I store in a central location. It's tempting for me to move to Structured Frame, but that would require a lot of time to set it up, to learn, and to convert the content. I don't think the needs of my company require that investment. Whether your company would benefit from Structured Frame or Structured Frame + DITA depends on how much reuse of content there is, whether they translate into other languages, etc. The single-sourcing features of Unstructured Frame are not that hard to learn, and you could implement it at your own pace. Good luck. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Joel wrote: > I am using Frame 8. I have a set of seven manuals that are close to 100 > pages each. Many sections of these manuals are identical, some sections > differ in detail in minor ways, and fewer sections differ in more > substantial ways. Currently they are all Frame books with each chapter being > its own file within the book. There is no re-use of anything at the moment. > > This is becoming increasingly burdensome to maintain, as a change to > something that appears in all seven manuals requires me to make that change > manually in all seven files. I would like to get to re-use, or > single-sourcing, but I’m puzzled as to how to get there. Would the best > strategy be: > > (a) To use conditional text and generate several versions; > > (b) To try and convert everything to XML and sew things together based on > individual XML files; > > (c) Something else? > I have zero XML knowledge, and whenever I read about it, my head hurts. I am > willing to learn, but the benefit needs to be commensurate with the pain > involved in learning. I’m looking for the simplest solution that allows for > some common source material using my existing Frame configuration. Ideas are > appreciated. > Joel > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as shmue...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: re-use 101
I work in this way too. A number of books, with the common chapters the same, some text insets too. What I wanted to add, was not to forget to document what you are doing. Even if you are a lone writer, you may sometimes have time between working on books. I have a text file in each book directory reminding myself how I set it all up, which conditions should be applied when and whatever else is relevant. Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email: carol...@radcom.com www.radcom.com www.protocols.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Susan Modlin Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:46 PM To: Flato, Gillian; Joel; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: re-use 101 Joel, I'm with Gillian on this one. Using this approach (and variables on title pages and in running headers and footers for book titles) I managed a pretty complex set of deliverables: two versions each of 10 major guides, and three versions of a training guide that contained pared-down chapters from each of the major guides. I also produced context sensitive help from the same set of FrameMaker source files. Because I used Frame 7.2, handling the conditions was tricky, but creative use of color (red + green = brown) enabled me to construct a system of 16 possible combinations that I could keep track of without too much trouble. The trick was to plan the whole thing out in advance, make it logical and easy to remember, and to be absolutely rigorous about not straying from the rules. As a one-woman department, I was tempted at times to do a little ad hoc conditionalizing, but I knew that the whole thing hinged on sticking to the structure I'd created. I'm sure others have done even more complicated schemes and as Gillian points out, it's easier and cheaper than DITA. ...Susan Gillian wrote: The easiest way to do it is the following: 1. Have 7 Frame book files 2. The book files can share chapter files that are mostly similar; likewise, they don't share chapters that are radically different for each manual. 3. Within the chapters, apply conditional text to the minor differences With this method, you simply set the conditions as needed before your build your book. When you build your book or PDF, you generate the manual and only the text conditioned to that manual displays. This is the method that I use. It's much easier, cheaper and manageable then DITA. -Gillian ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as carol...@radcom.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
invisible mif2go files created in VPC on Mac
I'm trying to convert a MacFM 7 document to rtf, using mif2go plugged into FM7.1 on XP in Virtual PC running in Classic under Tiger on my Mac. I did this once before, a couple of months ago, no problem. This time I do the exact same thing and I end up with the rtf file, I think, but it's invisible on my Mac (even to "search for invisible files") both in the Finder and to MacFM and Mac Word. But both Windows FM and Windows Acrobat Reader can see the file (and others that were created during the conversion). I don't have Windows Word and need to be able to see the file outside Windows to work on it. Any ideas why it remains stubbornly invisible on my Mac (even to file utilities like FileExaminer)? Thanks, Graeme Forbes
Re: invisible mif2go files created in VPC on Mac
Graeme, If Virtual PC works even remotely similar to Fusion, then any of its files would exist only as part of some archive of the program, visible only from the program itself. This is probably very normal and not a problem. If so, your only alternative would be to export it from some Windows/ virtual PC program to a Mac folder, if Virtual PC allows that (I don't know the program). In Fusion it is child's play and can be done in several ways, the easiest being drag and drop from the virtual Windows desktop to the Mac's... Amnon. Graeme R Forbes (graeme.for...@colorado.edu) said on 12/03/09 at 1:17 : >I'm trying to convert a MacFM 7 document to rtf, using mif2go plugged >into FM7.1 on XP in Virtual PC running in Classic under Tiger on my >Mac. I did this once before, a couple of months ago, no problem. This >time I do the exact same thing and I end up with the rtf file, I >think, but it's invisible on my Mac (even to "search for invisible >files") both in the Finder and to MacFM and Mac Word. But both >Windows FM and Windows Acrobat Reader can see the file (and others >that were created during the conversion). I don't have Windows Word >and need to be able to see the file outside Windows to work on it. >Any ideas why it remains stubbornly invisible on my Mac (even to file >utilities like FileExaminer)? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
invisible mif2go files created in VPC on Mac
I'm trying to convert a MacFM 7 document to rtf, using mif2go plugged into FM7.1 on XP in Virtual PC running in Classic under Tiger on my Mac. I did this once before, a couple of months ago, no problem. This time I do the exact same thing and I end up with the rtf file, I think, but it's invisible on my Mac (even to "search for invisible files") both in the Finder and to MacFM and Mac Word. But both Windows FM and Windows Acrobat Reader can see the file (and others that were created during the conversion). I don't have Windows Word and need to be able to see the file outside Windows to work on it. Any ideas why it remains stubbornly invisible on my Mac (even to file utilities like FileExaminer)? Thanks, Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.