Re: PDF problem

[Cynthia Cobb]

Thank you everyone for your suggestions. This is what solve the problem: 

* changed the default bookmarks and
tags in the PDF dialog box to Chapter, Appendix, Heading 1, Heading 2, Appendix 
1. Appendix 2, and Group Tiles, IX
* downloading a patch from: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=952909
* update all conditional text settings (as it only happen with certain 
conditional text setting but never in the same file)
* removed and import graphics in the chapter causing the problem around 
the page causing the problem
Thank you again for all your help.
Cynthia




From: Amit Agarwal amaga...@adobe.com
To: cco...@pacbell.net cco...@pacbell.net
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:50:29 PM
Subject: RE: PDF problem

 
Hi Cynthia,
A MS Hotfix for the PDF crash problem is available at 
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=952909
Do apply this fix and let me know if it solves the issue.
Regards,
Amit
 
 
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Cynthia Cobbcco...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Just realzied I forgot to include the end of the
file:
  
 %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be
ignored ]%% %%[ 
 Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ]
%%
  
  
  
 - Forwarded Message 
 From: Cynthia Cobb cco...@pacbell.net
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:14:14 PM
 Subject: PDF problem
  
  
 I hope you all can help me. I'm using Frame 
7.0p578 on Windows XP.
  
 When I do a File Save As a PDF. I am getting
the following error message in the text file that is saved:
  
 %%[Page: 163]%%
 %%[Page: 164]%%
 %%[Page: 165]%%
 %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: p ]%%
 Stack:
 -mark-
 /Block
 /Placement
 /Layout
 /O
 -mark-
 {AT.12.106506}
 -mark-
  
 I have updated 7.0 with the latest patch but I still
get the error message.  I have even tried priting the file using the
Distiller and I get the following error message:
  
 %%[Page: 179]%%
 %%[Page: 180]%%
 %%[Page: 181]%%
 %%[Page: 182]%%
 %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: øûýPÞ ]%%
 Stack:
 /Block
 /Placement
 /Layout
 /O
 -mark-
 {AT.14.311306}
 -mark-
  
 Thanks for any help you can give me.
  
 Cynthia
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Will two different versions of Distiller on the same machine cause problems?

[Garnier Garnier]

Hello Framers,

I have a query.

I use Framemaker 7.0 and Distiller 5.0. We recently acquired Acrobat 
Professional for generating editable pdfs. Do I need to follow any do’s and 
don’ts for the installation? Will the two registry entries cause any 
discrepancies? I have decided to install the Acrobat Professional in a 
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Re: Help with Saving 200+ FrameMaker 7 files in FM 9

[Shmuel Wolfson]

This would be a perfect use for AutoIt. It's a free Windows scripting 
tool. You could write a very short script that would stay in a loop and 
click OK for you. Below is a sample AutoIt script.

Dim $max
Dim $x = 1

$max = InputBox(,How many iterations?,5)
While $x = $max
WinActivate(Adobe FrameMaker)
WinWaitActive(Adobe FrameMaker)
Send(!tr)
Sleep(100)
Send(!n)
Send(!s)
Sleep(200)
Send({TAB 4})
$x = $x + 1
WEnd

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052-763-7133




jody giunta wrote:


 Hello,
  
 I have several hundred FrameMaker 7.0 files that need to be saved as 
 FrameMaker 9.0. 
  
 I've tried opening the book file and all of the files within the book file in 
 FrameMaker 9 and using the global command: esc, f, Shift+s, but FrameMaker 
 prompts me to click OK to close each of the 300+ files.
  
 Does anyone know of a way to automatically upgrade all of my FM 7.0 files to 
 FM 9.0 without having to confirm that I want to save each individual file as 
 an FM 9.0 file?

 Any help is greatly apppreciated!
  
 Thank you!
 Jody 


   
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RE: Will two different versions of Distiller on the same machine cause problems?

[Fred Ridder]

Garnier asked:

 I use Framemaker 7.0 and Distiller 5.0. We recently acquired Acrobat 
 Professional for generating editable pdfs. Do I need to follow any do’s and 
 don’ts for the installation? Will the two registry entries cause any 
 discrepancies? I have decided to install the Acrobat Professional in a 
 different drive and location. Is the decision right?


You should *never* attempt to have two different versions of Distiller on the 
same system. The Acrobat 9.0 installer checks for existing Acrobat components 
on the same system and will not proceed with the new installation if it finds 
any. You will have to uninstall the existing Distiller 5.0 instance before you 
can install the Acrobat 9.0 suite.

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RE: Will two different versions of Distiller on the same machine causeproblems?

[Combs, Richard]

Garnier Garnier wrote:
 
 I use Framemaker 7.0 and Distiller 5.0. We recently acquired Acrobat
 Professional for generating editable pdfs. Do I need to follow any do’s and
 don’ts for the installation? Will the two registry entries cause any
 discrepancies? I have decided to install the Acrobat Professional in a
 different drive and location. Is the decision right?

Fred is absolutely correct -- do _not_ try to put two versions of Acrobat 
(including the Distiller component) on the same PC. Period. 

And why would you want to? What would be the point of installing version 9 of 
Acrobat Pro  (which of course includes Distiller), but continuing to use the 
quite ancient Distiller 5? 

Richard


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Font Issues - Keeping Your File Clean - More Recap

[Oran Petersen]

As a Postscript (no pun intended) to the earlier recap of font issues, I 
offer the following: 
As Stuart Rogers mentioned, pasting text, with the help of a plugin, can also 
solve font issues. 
Many companies, mine included, do not allow use of plugins as they fall under 
the realm of unapproved software and getting them approved is a long painful 
process. 
But you can easily paste text without the plugin several different ways. 
Easiest is to just use the menu EditPaste Special and select Text. 

But if you are doing significant amounts of pasting, this can slow you down, 
and it is easy to forget. 
For most of our authors, I have modified the maker.ini file to set Text as 
the default. The Frame default is OLE, which as most of you know, is a disaster 
in newer Windows systems. 

To do this, navigate Program FilesAdobe..FrameMaker(n) and open the 
maker.ini file in a text editor. (I suggest a backup file prior). 
You can also do a Windows search for the file, but be aware that there is a 
sub maker.ini file for each user on the machine that holds specific settings 
for that user on that machine. Do not modify this one. Find the the one in 
Program Files. 

Search(find) TEXT in the file. You will see a string similar to (may differ 
with Frame version): 


ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF, 
UNICODE TEXT, TEXT 

Move TEXT in front of FILE, as shown below, save the file, and re-launch Frame 
ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, 
RTF, UNICODE TEXT 

Now unformatted text is the default paste action, and Paste Special is not 
needed. Two more points: 
1. In Paste Special, the order of the list items does not reflect the order in 
maker.ini. 
2. You can still use Paste Special to select RTF, etc. to override the new 
default text paste if you wish. 

Also, many of our authors open Word files in FrameMaker to do their copy paste 
operations. This come from many sources, and are often very dirty from a 
format perspective. If you wish to paste Rich Text Format from Word to carry 
some formatting, or just use the Frame version of the Word file, you can do 
clean up by finding and deleting the hidden character \x0d. (no quotes, and 
it is a zero, not an o). You can also do this with a mif wash, but I think 
this is easier. 
Oran Petersen 
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RE: Font Issues - Keeping Your File Clean - More Recap

[Lea Rush]

This is great information, Oran.  Thanks!!

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Oran Petersen
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:36 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Font Issues - Keeping Your File Clean - More Recap




As a Postscript (no pun intended) to the earlier recap of font issues, I 
offer the following: 
As Stuart Rogers mentioned, pasting text, with the help of a plugin, can also 
solve font issues. 
Many companies, mine included, do not allow use of plugins as they fall under 
the realm of unapproved software and getting them approved is a long painful 
process. 
But you can easily paste text without the plugin several different ways. 
Easiest is to just use the menu EditPaste Special and select Text. 

But if you are doing significant amounts of pasting, this can slow you down, 
and it is easy to forget. 
For most of our authors, I have modified the maker.ini file to set Text as 
the default. The Frame default is OLE, which as most of you know, is a disaster 
in newer Windows systems. 

To do this, navigate Program FilesAdobe..FrameMaker(n) and open the 
maker.ini file in a text editor. (I suggest a backup file prior). 
You can also do a Windows search for the file, but be aware that there is a 
sub maker.ini file for each user on the machine that holds specific settings 
for that user on that machine. Do not modify this one. Find the the one in 
Program Files. 

Search(find) TEXT in the file. You will see a string similar to (may differ 
with Frame version): 


ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF, 
UNICODE TEXT, TEXT 

Move TEXT in front of FILE, as shown below, save the file, and re-launch Frame 
ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, 
RTF, UNICODE TEXT 

Now unformatted text is the default paste action, and Paste Special is not 
needed. Two more points: 
1. In Paste Special, the order of the list items does not reflect the order in 
maker.ini. 
2. You can still use Paste Special to select RTF, etc. to override the new 
default text paste if you wish. 

Also, many of our authors open Word files in FrameMaker to do their copy paste 
operations. This come from many sources, and are often very dirty from a 
format perspective. If you wish to paste Rich Text Format from Word to carry 
some formatting, or just use the Frame version of the Word file, you can do 
clean up by finding and deleting the hidden character \x0d. (no quotes, and 
it is a zero, not an o). You can also do this with a mif wash, but I think 
this is easier. 
Oran Petersen 

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Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Alison Craig]

Is there a way to create a style that accepts all existing formatting and 
simply applies (i.e., forces) a page break? My attempts to create such a style 
have failed so far.

I really don't want to have to create an Override every time I want a page 
break based on layout/esthetic reasons.

Alison
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RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Lief Erickson]

Alison--

You can create a style that has a large space below defined, which has
the effect of pushing everything to the next page. This is what I have
done and has worked well for years. I called mine 0PageBreak so that it
is the first tag that appears in the list when I press F9, which makes
it very easy to insert. It's also easy to search and remove all of these
artificial breaks too by using a specific paragraph tag.

-Lief

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Subject: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

Is there a way to create a style that accepts all existing formatting
and simply applies (i.e., forces) a page break? My attempts to create
such a style have failed so far.

I really don't want to have to create an Override every time I want a
page break based on layout/esthetic reasons.

Alison


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RE: Font Issues - Keeping Your File Clean - More Recap

[Fred Ridder]

Oran Petersen wrote (in small part):

 Now unformatted text is the default paste action, and Paste Special is not 
 needed. Two more points: 
 1. In Paste Special, the order of the list items does not reflect the order 
 in maker.ini. 
 2. You can still use Paste Special to select RTF, etc. to override the new 
 default text paste if you wish. 


Note that changing the format priority order in maker.ini only affects content 
that is being pasted via the OS's clipboard; i.e. content from another 
application. If you are copying and pasting from another FrameMaker document, 
the clipboard is not involved and the paste results will always be formatted 
text unless you explicitly choose plain text via Paste Special or an accessory 
tool like PureText or HovText.

-Fred Ridder

 

 
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Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Writer]

On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the paratag to 
start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.

For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a twin tag called 
H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.

Nadine

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 From: Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 Subject: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:45 PM
 Is there a way to create a style that
 accepts all existing formatting and simply applies (i.e.,
 forces) a page break? My attempts to create such a style
 have failed so far.
 
 I really don't want to have to create an Override every
 time I want a page break based on layout/esthetic reasons.
 
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Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Stuart Rogers]

Alison Craig wrote:
 Is there a way to create a style that accepts all existing formatting
 and simply applies (i.e., forces) a page break? My attempts to create
 such a style have failed so far.
 
 I really don't want to have to create an Override every time I want a
 page break based on layout/esthetic reasons.
 
 Alison ___


I use a PageBreak tag defined with 2pt font and 999pt space below,
inserted (with no content) immediately before the pgf that should move
to the next page or column.

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RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Fred Ridder]

Stuart Rogers wrote:

 I use a PageBreak tag defined with 2pt font and 999pt space below,
 inserted (with no content) immediately before the pgf that should move
 to the next page or column.


I used a similar approach at a previous employer. But because we would globally 
delete all PageBreak paragraphs so that we could re-do the manual page breaks 
after a file was edited significantly, we wanted to ensure that nobody put any 
text in the special paragraphs. Instead of using a 2 pt font, we set the line 
spacing to be 2 pts, but set the paragraph font to some obviously decorative 
face (e.g. Cooper Black or some script face) in 14 pt red. 

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Font Issues - Unavaiilable Fonts and Font Information Changed - Recap

[Andy Kass]

Another solution to avoid pasting random fonts and formats into Frame is set 
your ClipboardFormatsPriorities in maker.ini (either the user copy or the 
system copy). I believe the following setting will do the the trick:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=UNICODE TEXT, TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, 
BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF

Although I personally removed OLE2 from this list because I never want to have 
to deal with it--there are probably others as well, but I'm not sure about all 
the formats listed.

But I like the idea of PureText, it sounds like it will solve the issue of 
FrameMaker's internal paste buffer retaining paragraph formatting that I don't 
want in the destination paragraph. Like Paste Special  Text, but faster. 
Here's a link to a previous thread on this list:

  http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2007-March/007038.html

Karen Robbins wrote: Also working on ways to get co-users to use character 
styles (more) correctly.

My solution to the rogue formatting was to customize the menus and toolbars 
(and command shortcut definitions) to remove the ability to do so. Instead, I 
have many ways to access the catalog of character and paragraph tags, ensuring 
that only formats from my templates can be applied. As a side benefit, my 
FrameMaker menus are now decluttered.

Hope that helps,

  Andy

ak...@jaspersoft.com

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From: Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
Subject: Re: Font Issues - Unavaiilable Fonts and Font Information Changed - 
Recap

 Oran Petersen wrote:
 
  Following the two recent threads on the list concerning fonts, I did
  not see a comprehensive recap of these issues for cause and cure.
 
  CAUSE-Unavailable fonts
 
  1. Most postscript printers come loaded with a set of Postscript
  fonts.
 
  2. If you set a postscript printer as your default, Windows will
  see these fonts and allow you to use them in your documents. Also,
  if you copy/paste text from another document that uses them you can
  also inject them into your documents.


 Good summary, Oran, thank you.
 
 Two further points:
 
 Some printer drivers can be set so that Windows *doesn't* see the
 printer's fonts.  The driver for our Lexmark of a few years ago had a
 checkbox labelled Do not report printer fonts to applications (or
 similar wording), which I always kept checked.  Unfortunately, our
 current printer does not offer the same choice.  No big deal, since I
 use SetPrint anyway, but this info may help others.
 
 I also advocate the use of PureText for pasting content from other
 applications.  After installation, Ctrl+v continues to work normally,
 but Windows+v pastes the clipboard contents with formatting removed.
 It's free:
 http://stevemiller.net/PureText
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RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Alison Craig]

I'd already thought of that, but... won't it affect the auto-creation of TOC 
entries from Headings?

Alison

 
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Alison Craig
Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks


On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the paratag to 
start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.

For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a twin tag called 
H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.

Nadine

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:

 From: Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 Subject: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:45 PM
 Is there a way to create a style that
 accepts all existing formatting and simply applies (i.e.,
 forces) a page break? My attempts to create such a style
 have failed so far.
 
 I really don't want to have to create an Override every
 time I want a page break based on layout/esthetic reasons.
 
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RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Fred Ridder]

You just have to edit the TOC setup to include both the regular and the 
break-before versions of each heading. In other words, both H1 and H1_break, 
both H2 and H2_break, etc. Works like a champ. 

-Fred Ridder


 
 From: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 To: generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:23:24 -0700
 Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
 
 I'd already thought of that, but... won't it affect the auto-creation of TOC 
 entries from Headings?
 
 Alison
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Alison Craig
 Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
 
 
 On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the paratag to 
 start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.
 
 For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a twin tag called 
 H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.
 
 Nadine
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RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Writer]

Depends on whether or not you include it in the TOC. Do you want it in the TOC?

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:

 From: Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
 To: generic...@yahoo.ca generic...@yahoo.ca, 
 framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:23 PM
 I'd already thought of that, but...
 won't it affect the auto-creation of TOC entries from
 Headings?
 
 Alison
 
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca]
 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com;
 Alison Craig
 Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page
 Breaks
 
 
 On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can
 set the paratag to start at the top of the next page by
 setting Start to Top of Page.
 
 For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a twin
 tag called H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the
 next page.
 
 Nadine
 
 --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
  Subject: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page
 Breaks
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:45 PM
  Is there a way to create a style that
  accepts all existing formatting and simply applies
 (i.e.,
  forces) a page break? My attempts to create such a
 style
  have failed so far.
  
  I really don't want to have to create an Override
 every
  time I want a page break based on layout/esthetic
 reasons.
  
  Alison
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RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Fred Ridder]

But note that the alternate approach of a break-after paragraph (i.e. one 
with 999 pts of space after) doesn't require any change to the TOC setup at 
all. Which is one reason why I personally prefer that approach.

 

-Fred Ridder


 
 From: docu...@hotmail.com
 To: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; generic...@yahoo.ca; 
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:47:47 -0400
 
 
 You just have to edit the TOC setup to include both the regular and the 
 break-before versions of each heading. In other words, both H1 and 
 H1_break, both H2 and H2_break, etc. Works like a champ. 
 
 -Fred Ridder
 
 
 
  From: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
  To: generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:23:24 -0700
  Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
  
  I'd already thought of that, but... won't it affect the auto-creation of 
  TOC entries from Headings?
  
  Alison
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Alison Craig
  Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
  
  
  On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the paratag to 
  start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.
  
  For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a twin tag called 
  H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.
  
  Nadine
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RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Alison Craig]

That's good - although I'm having issues with the TOC, so that will be one of 
my next questions...

Alison

From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:48 PM
To: Alison Craig; generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

You just have to edit the TOC setup to include both the regular and the 
break-before versions of each heading. In other words, both H1 and H1_break, 
both H2 and H2_break, etc. Works like a champ.

-Fred Ridder



 From: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 To: generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:23:24 -0700
 Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

 I'd already thought of that, but... won't it affect the auto-creation of TOC 
 entries from Headings?

 Alison


 -Original Message-
 From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Alison Craig
 Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks


 On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the paratag to 
 start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.

 For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a twin tag called 
 H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.

 Nadine
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RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Alison Craig]

Yes. My headings are always configured to be auto-included in the TOC. With the 
kind of manuals I create, this makes things simplest.

Alison

 

-Original Message-
From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:50 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Alison Craig
Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks


Depends on whether or not you include it in the TOC. Do you want it in the TOC?

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:

 From: Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
 To: generic...@yahoo.ca generic...@yahoo.ca, 
 framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:23 PM
 I'd already thought of that, but...
 won't it affect the auto-creation of TOC entries from
 Headings?
 
 Alison
 
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca]
 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com;
 Alison Craig
 Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page
 Breaks
 
 
 On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can
 set the paratag to start at the top of the next page by
 setting Start to Top of Page.
 
 For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a twin
 tag called H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the
 next page.
 
 Nadine
 
 --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
  Subject: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page
 Breaks
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:45 PM
  Is there a way to create a style that
  accepts all existing formatting and simply applies
 (i.e.,
  forces) a page break? My attempts to create such a
 style
  have failed so far.
  
  I really don't want to have to create an Override
 every
  time I want a page break based on layout/esthetic
 reasons.
  
  Alison
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Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

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Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Dave Reynolds]

I also use a PageBreak para format to insert manual page breaks.  I 
think I just cloned it from our basic para format (Normal), but set the 
space below to 700pt.  To make it visible, I set the colour to blue and 
set tabs stops at 5mm intervals across the whole text column, with the 
last tab stop set 5mm in from the right margin (so I can still see the 
para marker).  I then inserted an equal number of tab commands in the 
numbering tab in Para Designer.  So, when I insert a PageBreak, I can 
see a row of blue tab text symbols across the page.  I also set the Next 
Pgf Tag to Normal.

I've used this method for years after reading about it on this list and 
it works well.  I also find it handy when I'm working in a draft manual 
and I want to move any text I'm editing onto a new page so it doesn't 
break across two pages.

Cheers

Dave

Fred Ridder wrote, on 24/06/2009 6:37 a.m.:
 Stuart Rogers wrote:

   
 I use a PageBreak tag defined with 2pt font and 999pt space below,
 inserted (with no content) immediately before the pgf that should move
 to the next page or column.
 


 I used a similar approach at a previous employer. But because we would 
 globally delete all PageBreak paragraphs so that we could re-do the manual 
 page breaks after a file was edited significantly, we wanted to ensure that 
 nobody put any text in the special paragraphs. Instead of using a 2 pt font, 
 we set the line spacing to be 2 pts, but set the paragraph font to some 
 obviously decorative face (e.g. Cooper Black or some script face) in 14 pt 
 red. 

 -Fred Ridder

  

  
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HTML Conversion: Troubleshooting Head Behavior

[Karen Robbins]

Hello Framers,

I am converting a 10-document book in Frame 8.0p277 (Win XP) to HTML. 
For test runs I use Frame's own HTML utility while tweaking files for 
clean conversion. I will use Mif2Go for final HTML output.

Problem: Several paragraph tag heads have the same level (D-Head 
Undergraduate, D-Head Graduate, etc.) with the same level in the book 
heading mapping table and settings in the book HTML mapping table--in 
this case, both are set to Y for new page. There are also some heads 
at this same level that do NOT have the same settings, such as 
D-Head, that do not generate a new page and are correctly set to N.

When I convert to HTML, body text following the D-Head Undergraduate 
head ends up on the main section page below its associated link 
generated by Frame, e.g., following D-Head-UndergraduateTOC rather 
than on a separate page; body text following the D-Head Graduate head 
correctly appears on a separate page with that head. Usually (I 
haven't checked all of the 800+ HTML files this conversion 
generates), D-Head Undergraduate head is followed immediately by a 
D-Head head; D-Head Graduate head is usually followed by body text 
directly.

Is Frame able to correctly interpret these settings? Is it confused 
by the naming convention (which I didn't create, BTW)? Other ideas on 
how to troubleshoot?

Thanks,

Karen
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Re: HTML Conversion: Troubleshooting Head Behavior

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:29:48 -0700, Karen Robbins 
karendes...@gmail.com wrote:

I am converting a 10-document book in Frame 8.0p277 (Win XP) to HTML. 
For test runs I use Frame's own HTML utility while tweaking files for 
clean conversion. I will use Mif2Go for final HTML output.

If you are going to use Mif2Go, do **not** try to set the
doc up to work with the native Frame method.  It will not
help in any way, and could even *cause* problems.  You will
encounter many, many issues that do not exist in Mif2Go,
and waste your time trying to work around those bugs when
there may not even *be* a workaround.

You can do all the setup with Mif2Go, even the demo version.
The .ini files you produce will work fine in the registered
version, which is identical to the demo except for the text
changes.  That is really the best path to take.

HTH!

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PDF problem

[Cynthia Cobb]

Thank you everyone for your suggestions. This is what solve the problem: 

* changed the default bookmarks and
tags in the PDF dialog box to Chapter, Appendix, Heading 1, Heading 2, Appendix 
1. Appendix 2, and Group Tiles, IX
* downloading a patch from: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=952909
* update all conditional text settings (as it only happen with certain 
conditional text setting but never in the same file)
* removed and import graphics in the chapter causing the problem around 
the page causing the problem
Thank you again for all your help.
Cynthia




From: Amit Agarwal 
To: "ccobb6 at pacbell.net" 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:50:29 PM
Subject: RE: PDF problem


Hi Cynthia,
A MS Hotfix for the PDF crash problem is available at 
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=952909
Do apply this fix and let me know if it solves the issue.
Regards,
Amit


On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Cynthia Cobb wrote:
> Just realzied I forgot to include the end of the
file:
>  
> %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be
ignored ]%% %%[ 
> Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ]
%%
>  
>  
>  
> - Forwarded Message 
> From: Cynthia Cobb 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:14:14 PM
> Subject: PDF problem
>  
>  
> I hope you all can help me. I'm using Frame 
7.0p578 on Windows XP.
>  
> When I do a File Save As a PDF. I am getting
the following error message in the text file that is saved:
>  
> %%[Page: 163]%%
> %%[Page: 164]%%
> %%[Page: 165]%%
> %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: p ]%%
> Stack:
> -mark-
> /Block
> /Placement
> /Layout
> /O
> -mark-
> {AT.12.106506}
> -mark-
>  
> I have updated 7.0 with the latest patch but I still
get the error message.  I have even tried priting the file using the
Distiller and I get the following error message:
>  
> %%[Page: 179]%%
> %%[Page: 180]%%
> %%[Page: 181]%%
> %%[Page: 182]%%
> %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: ???P? ]%%
> Stack:
> /Block
> /Placement
> /Layout
> /O
> -mark-
> {AT.14.311306}
> -mark-
>  
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>  
> Cynthia
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Will two different versions of Distiller on the same machine cause problems?

[Garnier Garnier]

Hello Framers,

I have a query.

I use Framemaker 7.0 and Distiller 5.0. We recently acquired Acrobat 
Professional for generating editable pdfs. Do I need to follow any do?s and 
don?ts for the installation? Will the two registry entries cause any 
discrepancies? I have decided to install the Acrobat Professional in a 
different drive and location. Is the decision right?

B/R

Garnier



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Help with Saving 200+ FrameMaker 7 files in FM 9

[Shmuel Wolfson]

This would be a perfect use for AutoIt. It's a free Windows scripting 
tool. You could write a very short script that would stay in a loop and 
click OK for you. Below is a sample AutoIt script.

Dim $max
Dim $x = 1

$max = InputBox("","How many iterations?","5")
While $x <= $max
WinActivate("Adobe FrameMaker")
WinWaitActive("Adobe FrameMaker")
Send("!tr")
Sleep(100)
Send("!n")
Send("!s")
Sleep(200)
Send("{TAB 4}")
$x = $x + 1
WEnd

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Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133




jody giunta wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>  
> I have several hundred FrameMaker 7.0 files that need to be saved as 
> FrameMaker 9.0. 
>  
> I've tried opening the book file and all of the files within the book file in 
> FrameMaker 9 and using the global command: esc, f, Shift+s, but FrameMaker 
> prompts me to click OK to close each of the 300+ files.
>  
> Does anyone know of a way to automatically upgrade all of my FM 7.0 files to 
> FM 9.0 without having to confirm that I want to save each individual file as 
> an FM 9.0 file?
>
> Any help is greatly apppreciated!
>  
> Thank you!
> Jody 
>
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Will two different versions of Distiller on the same machine cause problems?

[Fred Ridder]

Garnier asked:

> I use Framemaker 7.0 and Distiller 5.0. We recently acquired Acrobat 
> Professional for generating editable pdfs. Do I need to follow any do?s and 
> don?ts for the installation? Will the two registry entries cause any 
> discrepancies? I have decided to install the Acrobat Professional in a 
> different drive and location. Is the decision right?


You should *never* attempt to have two different versions of Distiller on the 
same system. The Acrobat 9.0 installer checks for existing Acrobat components 
on the same system and will not proceed with the new installation if it finds 
any. You will have to uninstall the existing Distiller 5.0 instance before you 
can install the Acrobat 9.0 suite.

-FR

Will two different versions of Distiller on the same machine causeproblems?

[Combs, Richard]

Garnier Garnier wrote:

> I use Framemaker 7.0 and Distiller 5.0. We recently acquired Acrobat
> Professional for generating editable pdfs. Do I need to follow any do?s and
> don?ts for the installation? Will the two registry entries cause any
> discrepancies? I have decided to install the Acrobat Professional in a
> different drive and location. Is the decision right?

Fred is absolutely correct -- do _not_ try to put two versions of Acrobat 
(including the Distiller component) on the same PC. Period. 

And why would you want to? What would be the point of installing version 9 of 
Acrobat Pro  (which of course includes Distiller), but continuing to use the 
quite ancient Distiller 5? 

Richard


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Font Issues - Keeping Your File Clean - More Recap

[Oran Petersen]

As a "Postscript" (no pun intended) to the earlier recap of font issues, I 
offer the following: 
As Stuart Rogers mentioned, pasting text, with the help of a plugin, can also 
solve font issues. 
Many companies, mine included, do not allow use of plugins as they fall under 
the realm of "unapproved software" and getting them approved is a long?painful 
process. 
But you can easily paste text without the plugin several different ways. 
Easiest is to just use the menu Edit>Paste Special and select "Text". 

But if you are doing significant amounts of pasting, this can slow you down, 
and it is easy to forget. 
For most of our authors, I have modified the maker.ini file to set "Text" as 
the default. The Frame default is OLE, which as most of you know, is a disaster 
in newer Windows systems. 

To do this, navigate Program Files>Adobe>...>...FrameMaker(n) and open the 
maker.ini file in a text editor. (I suggest a backup file prior). 
You can also do a Windows search for the file, but be aware that there is a 
"sub" maker.ini file for each user on the machine that holds specific settings 
for that user on that machine. Do not modify this one. Find the the one in 
Program Files. 

Search(find) TEXT in the file. You will see a string similar to (may differ 
with Frame version): 


ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF, 
UNICODE TEXT, TEXT 

Move TEXT in front of FILE, as shown below, save the file, and re-launch Frame 
ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, 
RTF, UNICODE TEXT 

Now unformatted text is the default paste action, and Paste Special is not 
needed. Two more points: 
1. In Paste Special, the order of the list items does not reflect the order in 
maker.ini. 
2. You can still use Paste Special to select RTF, etc. to override the new 
default text paste if you wish. 

Also, many of our authors open Word files in FrameMaker to do their copy paste 
operations. This come from many sources, and are often very "dirty" from a 
format perspective. If you wish to paste Rich Text Format from Word to carry 
some formatting, or just use the Frame version of the Word file, you can do 
clean up by finding and deleting the hidden character "\x0d". (no quotes, and 
it is a zero, not an "o"). You can also do this with a mif wash, but I think 
this is easier. 
Oran Petersen 

Font Issues - Keeping Your File Clean - More Recap

[Lea Rush]

This is great information, Oran.  Thanks!!

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Oran Petersen
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:36 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Font Issues - Keeping Your File Clean - More Recap




As a "Postscript" (no pun intended) to the earlier recap of font issues, I 
offer the following: 
As Stuart Rogers mentioned, pasting text, with the help of a plugin, can also 
solve font issues. 
Many companies, mine included, do not allow use of plugins as they fall under 
the realm of "unapproved software" and getting them approved is a long painful 
process. 
But you can easily paste text without the plugin several different ways. 
Easiest is to just use the menu Edit>Paste Special and select "Text". 

But if you are doing significant amounts of pasting, this can slow you down, 
and it is easy to forget. 
For most of our authors, I have modified the maker.ini file to set "Text" as 
the default. The Frame default is OLE, which as most of you know, is a disaster 
in newer Windows systems. 

To do this, navigate Program Files>Adobe>...>...FrameMaker(n) and open the 
maker.ini file in a text editor. (I suggest a backup file prior). 
You can also do a Windows search for the file, but be aware that there is a 
"sub" maker.ini file for each user on the machine that holds specific settings 
for that user on that machine. Do not modify this one. Find the the one in 
Program Files. 

Search(find) TEXT in the file. You will see a string similar to (may differ 
with Frame version): 


ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF, 
UNICODE TEXT, TEXT 

Move TEXT in front of FILE, as shown below, save the file, and re-launch Frame 
ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, 
RTF, UNICODE TEXT 

Now unformatted text is the default paste action, and Paste Special is not 
needed. Two more points: 
1. In Paste Special, the order of the list items does not reflect the order in 
maker.ini. 
2. You can still use Paste Special to select RTF, etc. to override the new 
default text paste if you wish. 

Also, many of our authors open Word files in FrameMaker to do their copy paste 
operations. This come from many sources, and are often very "dirty" from a 
format perspective. If you wish to paste Rich Text Format from Word to carry 
some formatting, or just use the Frame version of the Word file, you can do 
clean up by finding and deleting the hidden character "\x0d". (no quotes, and 
it is a zero, not an "o"). You can also do this with a mif wash, but I think 
this is easier. 
Oran Petersen 

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Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Alison Craig]

Is there a way to create a style that accepts all existing formatting and 
simply applies (i.e., forces) a page break? My attempts to create such a style 
have failed so far.

I really don't want to have to create an Override every time I want a page 
break based on layout/esthetic reasons.

Alison

Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Lief Erickson]

Alison--

You can create a style that has a large space below defined, which has
the effect of pushing everything to the next page. This is what I have
done and has worked well for years. I called mine 0PageBreak so that it
is the first tag that appears in the list when I press F9, which makes
it very easy to insert. It's also easy to search and remove all of these
artificial breaks too by using a specific paragraph tag.

-Lief

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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

Is there a way to create a style that accepts all existing formatting
and simply applies (i.e., forces) a page break? My attempts to create
such a style have failed so far.

I really don't want to have to create an Override every time I want a
page break based on layout/esthetic reasons.

Alison


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Font Issues - Keeping Your File Clean - More Recap

[Fred Ridder]

Oran Petersen wrote (in small part):

> Now unformatted text is the default paste action, and Paste Special is not 
> needed. Two more points: 
> 1. In Paste Special, the order of the list items does not reflect the order 
> in maker.ini. 
> 2. You can still use Paste Special to select RTF, etc. to override the new 
> default text paste if you wish. 


Note that changing the format priority order in maker.ini only affects content 
that is being pasted via the OS's clipboard; i.e. content from another 
application. If you are copying and pasting from another FrameMaker document, 
the clipboard is not involved and the paste results will always be formatted 
text unless you explicitly choose plain text via Paste Special or an accessory 
tool like PureText or HovText.

-Fred Ridder

Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Writer]

On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the paratag to 
start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.

For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a "twin" tag called 
H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.

Nadine

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig  wrote:

> From: Alison Craig 
> Subject: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
> To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
> Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:45 PM
> Is there a way to create a style that
> accepts all existing formatting and simply applies (i.e.,
> forces) a page break? My attempts to create such a style
> have failed so far.
> 
> I really don't want to have to create an Override every
> time I want a page break based on layout/esthetic reasons.
> 
> Alison
> ___
> 
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Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Stuart Rogers]

Alison Craig wrote:
> Is there a way to create a style that accepts all existing formatting
> and simply applies (i.e., forces) a page break? My attempts to create
> such a style have failed so far.
> 
> I really don't want to have to create an Override every time I want a
> page break based on layout/esthetic reasons.
> 
> Alison ___


I use a "PageBreak" tag defined with 2pt font and 999pt space below,
inserted (with no content) immediately before the pgf that should move
to the next page or column.

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"It is not enough that I succeed.
  Others must fail."

-- Oscar Wilde

Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Fred Ridder]

Stuart Rogers wrote:

> I use a "PageBreak" tag defined with 2pt font and 999pt space below,
> inserted (with no content) immediately before the pgf that should move
> to the next page or column.


I used a similar approach at a previous employer. But because we would globally 
delete all "PageBreak" paragraphs so that we could re-do the manual page breaks 
after a file was edited significantly, we wanted to ensure that nobody put any 
text in the special paragraphs. Instead of using a 2 pt font, we set the line 
spacing to be 2 pts, but set the paragraph font to some obviously decorative 
face (e.g. Cooper Black or some script face) in 14 pt red. 

-Fred Ridder

Font Issues - Unavaiilable Fonts and Font Information Changed - Recap

[Andy Kass]

Another solution to avoid pasting random fonts and formats into Frame is set 
your ClipboardFormatsPriorities in maker.ini (either the user copy or the 
system copy). I believe the following setting will do the the trick:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=UNICODE TEXT, TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, 
BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF

Although I personally removed OLE2 from this list because I never want to have 
to deal with it--there are probably others as well, but I'm not sure about all 
the formats listed.

But I like the idea of PureText, it sounds like it will solve the issue of 
FrameMaker's internal paste buffer retaining paragraph formatting that I don't 
want in the destination paragraph. Like Paste Special > Text, but faster. 
Here's a link to a previous thread on this list:

  http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2007-March/007038.html

Karen Robbins wrote: "Also working on ways to get co-users to use character 
styles (more) correctly."

My solution to the "rogue formatting" was to customize the menus and toolbars 
(and command shortcut definitions) to remove the ability to do so. Instead, I 
have many ways to access the catalog of character and paragraph tags, ensuring 
that only formats from my templates can be applied. As a side benefit, my 
FrameMaker menus are now decluttered.

Hope that helps,

  Andy

akass at jaspersoft.com

--
From: Stuart Rogers 
Subject: Re: Font Issues - Unavaiilable Fonts and Font Information Changed - 
Recap

> Oran Petersen wrote:
> >
> > Following the two recent threads on the list concerning fonts, I did
> > not see a comprehensive recap of these issues for cause and cure.
> >
> > CAUSE-Unavailable fonts
> >
> > 1. Most postscript printers come loaded with a set of Postscript
> > fonts.
> >
> > 2. If you set a postscript printer as your default, Windows will
> > "see" these fonts and allow you to use them in your documents. Also,
> > if you copy/paste text from another document that uses them you can
> > also inject them into your documents.
>
>
> Good summary, Oran, thank you.
> 
> Two further points:
> 
> Some printer drivers can be set so that Windows *doesn't* see the
> printer's fonts.  The driver for our Lexmark of a few years ago had a
> checkbox labelled "Do not report printer fonts to applications" (or
> similar wording), which I always kept checked.  Unfortunately, our
> current printer does not offer the same choice.  No big deal, since I
> use SetPrint anyway, but this info may help others.
> 
> I also advocate the use of PureText for pasting content from other
> applications.  After installation, Ctrl+v continues to work normally,
> but Windows+v pastes the clipboard contents with formatting removed.
> It's free:
> http://stevemiller.net/PureText

Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Alison Craig]

I'd already thought of that, but... won't it affect the auto-creation of TOC 
entries from Headings?

Alison


-Original Message-
From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Alison Craig
Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks


On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the paratag to 
start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.

For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a "twin" tag called 
H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.

Nadine

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig  wrote:

> From: Alison Craig 
> Subject: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
> To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
> Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:45 PM
> Is there a way to create a style that
> accepts all existing formatting and simply applies (i.e.,
> forces) a page break? My attempts to create such a style
> have failed so far.
> 
> I really don't want to have to create an Override every
> time I want a page break based on layout/esthetic reasons.
> 
> Alison
> ___
> 
> 
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Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Fred Ridder]

You just have to edit the TOC setup to include both the regular and the 
"break-before" versions of each heading. In other words, both H1 and H1_break, 
both H2 and H2_break, etc. Works like a champ. 

-Fred Ridder



> From: Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com
> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:23:24 -0700
> Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
> 
> I'd already thought of that, but... won't it affect the auto-creation of TOC 
> entries from Headings?
> 
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Writer [mailto:generic668 at yahoo.ca] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Alison Craig
> Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
> 
> 
> On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the paratag to 
> start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.
> 
> For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a "twin" tag called 
> H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.
> 
> Nadine

Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Writer]

Depends on whether or not you include it in the TOC. Do you want it in the TOC?

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig  wrote:

> From: Alison Craig 
> Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
> To: "generic668 at yahoo.ca" , "framers at 
> lists.frameusers.com" 
> Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:23 PM
> I'd already thought of that, but...
> won't it affect the auto-creation of TOC entries from
> Headings?
> 
> Alison
> 
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Writer [mailto:generic668 at yahoo.ca]
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com;
> Alison Craig
> Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page
> Breaks
> 
> 
> On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can
> set the paratag to start at the top of the next page by
> setting Start to Top of Page.
> 
> For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a "twin"
> tag called H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the
> next page.
> 
> Nadine
> 
> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Alison Craig 
> > Subject: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page
> Breaks
> > To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"
> 
> > Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:45 PM
> > Is there a way to create a style that
> > accepts all existing formatting and simply applies
> (i.e.,
> > forces) a page break? My attempts to create such a
> style
> > have failed so far.
> > 
> > I really don't want to have to create an Override
> every
> > time I want a page break based on layout/esthetic
> reasons.
> > 
> > Alison
> > ___
> > 
> > 
> > You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca.
> > 
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> > 
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Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Fred Ridder]

But note that the alternate approach of a "break-after" paragraph (i.e. one 
with 999 pts of space after) doesn't require any change to the TOC setup at 
all. Which is one reason why I personally prefer that approach.



-Fred Ridder



> From: docudoc at hotmail.com
> To: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com; generic668 at yahoo.ca; framers at 
> lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:47:47 -0400
> 
> 
> You just have to edit the TOC setup to include both the regular and the 
> "break-before" versions of each heading. In other words, both H1 and 
> H1_break, both H2 and H2_break, etc. Works like a champ. 
> 
> -Fred Ridder
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com
> > To: generic668 at yahoo.ca; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:23:24 -0700
> > Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
> > 
> > I'd already thought of that, but... won't it affect the auto-creation of 
> > TOC entries from Headings?
> > 
> > Alison
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Writer [mailto:generic668 at yahoo.ca] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Alison Craig
> > Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
> > 
> > 
> > On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the paratag to 
> > start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.
> > 
> > For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a "twin" tag called 
> > H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.
> > 
> > Nadine
> ___
> 
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Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Combs, Richard]

Writer wrote: 

> On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the
paratag to
> start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.
> 
> For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a "twin" tag called
> H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.

Alison Craig replied: 

> I'd already thought of that, but... won't it affect the auto-creation
of
> TOC entries from Headings?

You just need to: 

1) Add H1_break to the Include Paragraphs Tagged list in the Set Up
Table of Contents dialog. 
2) Add an H1_breakTOC paragraph to the reference page TOC flow (just
copy the H1TOC pgf and rename it).

That said, I'd rather have one PageBreak tag (with a large Space Below
setting) than clutter up the pgf catalog with alternate versions of
every paragraph tag I might want to put a page break before. 

HTH!

Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Alison Craig]

That's good - although I'm having "issues" with the TOC, so that will be one of 
my next questions...

Alison

From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:48 PM
To: Alison Craig; generic668 at yahoo.ca; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

You just have to edit the TOC setup to include both the regular and the 
"break-before" versions of each heading. In other words, both H1 and H1_break, 
both H2 and H2_break, etc. Works like a champ.

-Fred Ridder



> From: Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com
> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:23:24 -0700
> Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
>
> I'd already thought of that, but... won't it affect the auto-creation of TOC 
> entries from Headings?
>
> Alison
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Writer [mailto:generic668 at yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Alison Craig
> Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
>
>
> On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can set the paratag to 
> start at the top of the next page by setting Start to Top of Page.
>
> For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a "twin" tag called 
> H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the next page.
>
> Nadine

Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks

[Alison Craig]

Yes. My headings are always configured to be auto-included in the TOC. With the 
kind of manuals I create, this makes things simplest.

Alison



-Original Message-
From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:50 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Alison Craig
Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks


Depends on whether or not you include it in the TOC. Do you want it in the TOC?

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig  wrote:

> From: Alison Craig 
> Subject: RE: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page Breaks
> To: "generic668 at yahoo.ca" , "framers at 
> lists.frameusers.com" 
> Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:23 PM
> I'd already thought of that, but...
> won't it affect the auto-creation of TOC entries from
> Headings?
> 
> Alison
> 
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Writer [mailto:generic668 at yahoo.ca]
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:03 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com;
> Alison Craig
> Subject: Re: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page
> Breaks
> 
> 
> On the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer, you can
> set the paratag to start at the top of the next page by
> setting Start to Top of Page.
> 
> For example, if you have an H1 tag, you can create a "twin"
> tag called H1_break, but set it to start at the top of the
> next page.
> 
> Nadine
> 
> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Alison Craig 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Alison Craig 
> > Subject: Creating an FM9 Style to Apply Forced Page
> Breaks
> > To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"
> 
> > Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:45 PM
> > Is there a way to create a style that
> > accepts all existing formatting and simply applies
> (i.e.,
> > forces) a page break? My attempts to create such a
> style
> > have failed so far.
> > 
> > I really don't want to have to create an Override
> every
> > time I want a page break based on layout/esthetic
> reasons.
> > 
> > Alison
> > ___
> > 
> > 
> > You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca.
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HTML Conversion: Troubleshooting Head Behavior

[Karen Robbins]

Hello Framers,

I am converting a 10-document book in Frame 8.0p277 (Win XP) to HTML. 
For test runs I use Frame's own HTML utility while tweaking files for 
clean conversion. I will use Mif2Go for final HTML output.

Problem: Several paragraph tag heads have the same level (D-Head 
Undergraduate, D-Head Graduate, etc.) with the same level in the book 
heading mapping table and settings in the book HTML mapping table--in 
this case, both are set to Y for new page. There are also some heads 
at this same level that do NOT have the same settings, such as 
D-Head, that do not generate a new page and are correctly set to N.

When I convert to HTML, body text following the D-Head Undergraduate 
head ends up on the main section page below its associated link 
generated by Frame, e.g., following "D-Head-UndergraduateTOC" rather 
than on a separate page; body text following the D-Head Graduate head 
correctly appears on a separate page with that head. Usually (I 
haven't checked all of the 800+ HTML files this conversion 
generates), D-Head Undergraduate head is followed immediately by a 
D-Head head; D-Head Graduate head is usually followed by body text 
directly.

Is Frame able to correctly interpret these settings? Is it confused 
by the naming convention (which I didn't create, BTW)? Other ideas on 
how to troubleshoot?

Thanks,

Karen

HTML Conversion: Troubleshooting Head Behavior

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:29:48 -0700, Karen Robbins 
 wrote:

>I am converting a 10-document book in Frame 8.0p277 (Win XP) to HTML. 
>For test runs I use Frame's own HTML utility while tweaking files for 
>clean conversion. I will use Mif2Go for final HTML output.

If you are going to use Mif2Go, do **not** try to set the
doc up to work with the native Frame method.  It will not
help in any way, and could even *cause* problems.  You will
encounter many, many "issues" that do not exist in Mif2Go,
and waste your time trying to work around those bugs when
there may not even *be* a workaround.

You can do all the setup with Mif2Go, even the demo version.
The .ini files you produce will work fine in the registered
version, which is identical to the demo except for the text
changes.  That is really the best path to take.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/