AW: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

2010-06-15 Thread Georg Eck
Hi Jasmine, There is TOOLBOX for FrameMaker (7, 8 and 9) take 'Book Services' Last page number See TOOLBOX Manual: http://bit.ly/aJjSFC (Page 51 Acrobat) All information about TOOLBOX and download links are there: www.toolboxforme.com Thank you for choosing TOOLBOX. - Georg

EDD rule that refers to the book element - impossible?

2010-06-15 Thread Jakob Fix
Hi, please consider this: I have a structured book with a large number of components. The book structure conforms to the EDD, i.e. validating the book works. The top element of the book, book has a @status attribute that can be either draft or publishable. In the component files, I have xrefs that

Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-15 Thread Avraham Makeler
Unfortunately, Word does not make it as easy to link/reference the graphic as other programs do. It was always dead easy for me. Just get up the Insert Picture browser, select the pic you want to insert, and then select the Insert mode. That was from Word 2003. What's happened since 2003? avi

FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi all, RE: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs? I just a received some whole new sections for updating an FM book. The book is a large reference guide for an API. Every other word in the new material is in fact the name of some software object (function, structure, or type) that's

Re: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
First, if I were you, I'd resist this. I think it's unnecessary and could become a potential maintenance nightmare. The SME seems to be under the impression that if a reader, probably another coder, will forget what a basic programming object is in less than 90 seconds... If the SME forgets, there

FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread Lynn Durell
Hi, My company are about to upgrade us from FM7.1 to FM9.0 (Win XP). Can anyone point me to a getting started guide or similar for FM 9.0, or other useful help for getting going with FM 9.0? Thanks very much, Lynn ___ You are currently subscribed

Re: FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
And a P.S.: As long as your company is spending some bucks to upgrade to 9, GET THEM TO SPRING FOR A SECOND MONITOR if you don't have one already. Big productivity boost, especially with the new FM 9 UI because you can put all the damn pallets in the second window... Cheers, Art Art Campbell

Re: FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread Writer
Amen to that. Or a widescreen monitor. Nadine --- On Tue, 6/15/10, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: FM9 getting started To: Lynn Durell lynn.dur...@dds.co.uk Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:32

Re: FM72. Tool to quickly make lots of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Avraham Makeler
My apologies to the list about the sloppy subject line. I was dozing off by the time I was completing the post, but wanted to send it before I took a siesta. Look what happened. That teaches me a lesson... - avi On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Avraham Makeler amake...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

Re: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi Art. Thanks for the response. First, if I were you, I'd resist this. I think it's unnecessary and could become a potential maintenance nightmare. I think it's unnecessary I think this is standard fare in programmer's and API reference guides. So they want what they see elsewhere. could

Re: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
I misunderstood what you were saying -- you're asking about each unique object reference, but I read what you wrote to mean the global definitions of the type of object. And, as far as: Another idea I use is to define one of the cross-refs and copy+paste it into an FM utility document I keep open

Re: FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread rinch
Lynn I found the Adobe OnDemand Seminar Getting Started with the new FrameMaker 9 User Interface to be helpful. Try this link, http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?event=listloc=en_ustype=ondemand_seminarproduct=FrameMakerinterest=audience= Richard

RE: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Combs, Richard
Avraham Makeler wrote: Hi Art. Thanks for the response. First, if I were you, I'd resist this. I think it's unnecessary and could become a potential maintenance nightmare. I think it's unnecessary I think this is standard fare in programmer's and API reference guides. So they want

RE: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Chris Despopoulos
I agree... There's no reason for this to me a maintenance issue. I would implement a solution that flushes all the auto-generated xrefs, and re-establishes them each time I invoke the task. By keeping it clean, there's no issue... That's the standard approach to this type of thing. It

Re: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
The last FM 7.x projects I worked on were perennially losing cross-refs, just in day-to-day book building operations. Not to mention changes in chapters themselves. If it could be truly automated, maybe... but sitting down to a list of hundreds of unresolved cross-refs isn't a great way to start

AW: paragraph tag report? | Find TOOLBOX

2010-06-15 Thread Georg Eck
Hi Mike. I very enjoy for your plaudit about TOOLBOX. Indeed worldwide many many users take TOOLBOX for FrameMaker since release 5. Then for UNIX, Mac and Windows - what a time! I'm the founder of all and I want that you all would find the information very quickly. Therefore every time we are

Exporting text from ID for use in MS Word?

2010-06-15 Thread Gary
Hi all, I'm an occasional users of ID and I've inherited a file with many different unlinked text boxes (2 or 3) on each page. I want to get the text out of ID and into something that others with basic office software can edit. Is there any way to export this text into RTF - or even raw text? I

Inserting Frame Hypertext Links to PDFs

2010-06-15 Thread Graham, Jasmine S
Hello Framers, Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1).  I'm trying to setup hypertext links (or a cross-references, if it can be done that way) to PDFs that may or may not exist yet. I want to emulate what you can do in Word, which is Insert Hyperlink, tell it what text to display, and tell it what

Re: FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hi Lynn I suggest you watch RJ Jacquez' webinar on the FM 9 UI. It's at https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?id=1485846event=register_no_sessionloc=en_us You will need an Adobe account (free). The interesting stuff starts about 30 minutes into it. And I second the requirement for

Re: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross- refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hi Avraham What you describe is normally, in my limited experience, generated automatically from code, using a tool such as Javadocs. I know that other programming languages (C# for example) will also generate such documentation from code comments. Wouldn't that be an easier way to go? Your

RESOLVED: Inserting Frame Hypertext Links to PDFs

2010-06-15 Thread Graham, Jasmine S
All, a few hours after my post, I figured out the answer. Here's how I'm going to do it: 1. Identify text that will become the hypertext (e.g., FILE-B_NAME). 2. Apply hyperlink format (element in my case) to text making it underline and blue. 3. Position cursor within hyperlink

RE: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: The last FM 7.x projects I worked on were perennially losing cross-refs, just in day-to-day book building operations. Not to mention changes in chapters themselves. If it could be truly automated, maybe... but sitting down to a list of hundreds of unresolved

Re: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
Not disagreeing, Richard, but I suffered through months of this on a contract job where the files were shared among several writers. And it's recurred occasionally in other 7.x environments. Ain't saying it couldn't have been resolved, but it occurred far too often to be hapinstance. Cheers, Art

Re: Exporting text from ID for use in MS Word?

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
It's been a while since I used ID, but I believe the InCopy add-in can handle this kind of export -- worst case, it'd arrange it better. If that doesn't work, I'd try going ID PDF RTF (via Acrobat). Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world

AW: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

2010-06-15 Thread Georg Eck
Hi Jasmine, There is TOOLBOX for FrameMaker (7, 8 and 9) take 'Book Services' > Last page number See TOOLBOX Manual: http://bit.ly/aJjSFC (Page 51 Acrobat) All information about TOOLBOX and download links are there: www.toolboxforme.com Thank you for choosing TOOLBOX. - Georg

EDD rule that refers to the book element - impossible?

2010-06-15 Thread Jakob Fix
Hi, please consider this: I have a structured book with a large number of components. The book structure conforms to the EDD, i.e. validating the book works. The top element of the book, has a @status attribute that can be either "draft" or "publishable". In the component files, I have xrefs that

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-15 Thread Avraham Makeler
>> Unfortunately, Word does not make it as easy to link/reference the graphic as other programs do. It was always dead easy for me. Just get up the Insert Picture browser, select the pic you want to insert, and then select the Insert mode. That was from Word 2003. What's happened since 2003?

FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi all, RE: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs? I just a received some whole new sections for updating an FM book. The book is a large reference guide for an API. Every other word in the new material is in fact the name of some software object (function, structure, or type) that's

FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
First, if I were you, I'd resist this. I think it's unnecessary and could become a potential maintenance nightmare. The SME seems to be under the impression that if a reader, probably another coder, will forget what a basic programming object is in less than 90 seconds... If the SME forgets, there

FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread Lynn Durell
Hi, My company are about to upgrade us from FM7.1 to FM9.0 (Win XP). Can anyone point me to a getting started guide or similar for FM 9.0, or other useful help for getting going with FM 9.0? Thanks very much, Lynn

FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
The user interface is likely to be the biggest thing you'll need to learn/re-learn, but nothing has gone away -- just several new tools added. So your 7 skills should transfer pretty easily. Things to be aware of: - FM adopted unicode character support in v 8, so you may have to redo some

FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
And a P.S.: As long as your company is spending some bucks to upgrade to 9, GET THEM TO SPRING FOR A SECOND MONITOR if you don't have one already. Big productivity boost, especially with the new FM 9 UI because you can put all the damn pallets in the second window... Cheers, Art Art Campbell

FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread Writer
Amen to that. Or a widescreen monitor. Nadine --- On Tue, 6/15/10, Art Campbell wrote: > From: Art Campbell > Subject: Re: FM9 getting started > To: "Lynn Durell" > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:32 AM > And a P.S.: > > As long as your company is

FM72. Tool to quickly make lots of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Avraham Makeler
My apologies to the list about the sloppy subject line. I was dozing off by the time I was completing the post, but wanted to send it before I took a siesta. Look what happened. That teaches me a lesson... - avi On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Hi all, > > RE:

FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi Art. Thanks for the response. >> First, if I were you, I'd resist this. I think it's unnecessary and could become a potential maintenance nightmare. >> I think it's unnecessary I think this is standard fare in programmer's and API reference guides. So they want what they see elsewhere. >>

FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
I misunderstood what you were saying -- you're asking about each unique object reference, but I read what you wrote to mean the global definitions of the type of object. And, as far as: "Another idea I use is to define one of the cross-refs and copy+paste it into an FM utility document I keep

FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread ri...@inficon.com
Lynn I found the Adobe OnDemand Seminar "Getting Started with the new FrameMaker 9 User Interface" to be helpful. Try this link, http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?event=list=en_us=ondemand_seminar=FrameMaker== Richard

FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Combs, Richard
Avraham Makeler wrote: > Hi Art. Thanks for the response. > > >> First, if I were you, I'd resist this. I think it's unnecessary and > could > become a potential maintenance nightmare. > > >> I think it's unnecessary > I think this is standard fare in programmer's and API reference guides. So >

FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Chris Despopoulos
I agree... There's no reason for this to me a maintenance issue. I would implement a solution that flushes all the auto-generated xrefs, and re-establishes them each time I invoke the task. By keeping it clean, there's no issue... That's the standard approach to this type of thing. It

FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
The last FM 7.x projects I worked on were perennially losing cross-refs, just in day-to-day book building operations. Not to mention changes in chapters themselves. If it could be truly automated, maybe... but sitting down to a list of hundreds of unresolved cross-refs isn't a great way to start

AW: paragraph tag report? | Find TOOLBOX

2010-06-15 Thread Georg Eck
Hi Mike. I very enjoy for your plaudit about TOOLBOX. Indeed worldwide many many users take TOOLBOX for FrameMaker since release 5. Then for UNIX, Mac and Windows - what a time! I'm the founder of all and I want that you all would find the information very quickly. Therefore every time we are

Exporting text from ID for use in MS Word?

2010-06-15 Thread Gary
Hi all, I'm an occasional users of ID and I've inherited a file with many different unlinked text boxes (2 or 3) on each page. I want to get the text out of ID and into something that others with basic office software can edit. Is there any way to export this text into RTF - or even raw text? I

Inserting Frame Hypertext Links to PDFs

2010-06-15 Thread Graham, Jasmine S
Hello Framers, Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1). ?I'm trying to setup hypertext links (or a cross-references, if it can be done that way) to PDFs that may or may not exist yet. I want to emulate what you can do in Word, which is Insert > Hyperlink, tell it what text to display, and tell it what

FM9 getting started

2010-06-15 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hi Lynn I suggest you watch RJ Jacquez' webinar on the FM 9 UI. It's at https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?id=1485846=register_no_session=en_us You will need an Adobe account (free). The interesting stuff starts about 30 minutes into it. And I second the requirement for dual

Re: FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hi Avraham What you describe is normally, in my limited experience, generated automatically from code, using a tool such as Javadocs. I know that other programming languages (C# for example) will also generate such documentation from code comments. Wouldn't that be an easier way to go? Your

RESOLVED: Inserting Frame Hypertext Links to PDFs

2010-06-15 Thread Graham, Jasmine S
All, a few hours after my post, I figured out the answer. Here's how I'm going to do it: 1. Identify text that will become the hypertext (e.g., FILE-B_NAME). 2. Apply hyperlink format (element in my case) to text making it underline and blue. 3. Position cursor within hyperlink

FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: > The last FM 7.x projects I worked on were perennially losing cross-refs, > just in day-to-day book building operations. > > Not to mention changes in chapters themselves. > > If it could be truly automated, maybe... but sitting down to a list of > hundreds of unresolved

FM72. Tool to quickly makes loads of cross-refs?

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
Not disagreeing, Richard, but I suffered through months of this on a contract job where the files were shared among several writers. And it's recurred occasionally in other 7.x environments. Ain't saying it couldn't have been resolved, but it occurred far too often to be hapinstance. Cheers, Art

Exporting text from ID for use in MS Word?

2010-06-15 Thread Art Campbell
It's been a while since I used ID, but I believe the InCopy add-in can handle this kind of export -- worst case, it'd arrange it better. If that doesn't work, I'd try going ID > PDF > RTF (via Acrobat). Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this