Adobe Tech Comm Content Strategy and Tools Survey

2013-07-19 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi,

Adobe conducts a Adobe Tech Comm Content Strategy and Tools Survey.
The link is below.
If you want to vote for/against any specific licensing models, then here is
the place to tell directly to Adobe.

Best regards

Winfried

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Behalf Of Stephan Will
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:07 PM
To: frameusers...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [frameusers-de] Adobe TCS Umfrage

Hallo in die Runde,

das Adobe TCS Team hat eine Umfrage ins Netz gestellt (auf Englisch).
Siehe
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/07/adobe-tech-comm-content-strategy-and-tools-survey-launched.html

Eine Frage bezieht sich auch auf die Akzeptanz des Abo-Modells für
zukünftige TCS-Versionen.

Gruß
Stephan



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Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, all. I use FM 10on a Windows 7 system.I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into text.The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character set does not work (it comes out as an "x"). I have gone cross-eyed trying to find the character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a way to search for the character. If anyone can solve this annoyance for me, I will be very grateful.--Nancy
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RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Alt-097 is simply the character lower-case ‘a’. Enter it, highlight it and then 
set it to the symbol font (using the character designer preferably!) and it 
will show you what you want.

Z

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:18 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't enter alpha character in text

Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system.

 I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am 
trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into 
text.

The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character 
set does not work (it comes out as an x). I have gone cross-eyed trying to 
find the character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a 
way to search for the character.

If anyone can solve this annoyance for me, I will be very grateful.

--Nancy
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Re: Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Stuart Rogers

On 2013-Jul-19 2:17 PM, Nancy Allison wrote:

Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system.
 I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple 
thing: I am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or 
a lower-case a) into text.
The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special 
character set does not work (it comes out as an x). I have gone 
cross-eyed trying to find the character in the Character Palette, 
which does not seem to provide a way to search for the character.




You can make a variable containing \u03B1 and insert it as required, 
provided the font you are using contains that glyph.


HTH,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
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Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi. I got the information from http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CD0QFjAAurl="">Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I hoped it would work for FM 10, too.Obviously, I need to update my understanding of FM 10 and character sets.Thanks, everyone. I am saving your responses for reference the next time the special-character struggle comes up. Which it will.On 07/19/13, Fred Ridderdocu...@hotmail.com wrote:Where did you get that 097 code point? 
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Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Lin Sims
Hi Nancy,

If you look closely at the table, you'll see that the alpha symbol appears
in the Symbol font column. In other words, Adobe/Frame is advising that you
enter ANSI 097 (for a) and apply the Symbol font. So you understood just
fine, you just missed the last step. At the end of the week, that's
understandable!

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:

  Hi. I got the information from


 http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CD0QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2FCharacterSets%2Fcharacter_sets.pdfei=GY_pUZeXE8n8rQHv94GIAwusg=AFQjCNEADIHLoVklxZjm2FE3eoYSJiivNAsig2=eqrSkmCmmAGN9qHV8eEcMgbvm=bv.49478099,d.aWM

 Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I
 hoped it would work for FM 10, too.

 Obviously, I need to update my understanding of FM 10 and character sets.

 Thanks, everyone. I am saving your responses for reference the next time
 the special-character struggle comes up. Which it will.


 On 07/19/13, Fred Ridderdocu...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Where did you get that 097 code point?

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RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Fred Ridder
The table that contains the ANSI 097 - lower-case alpha mapping is in the 
section titled Symbol and ZapfDingbats character sets and the lower-case 
alpha character and character name are in the column of the table headed 
Symbol set: graphic and name. What this tells you is that this character 
mapping applies *only* to the Symbol font. This method--relying on the 
character mapping of a specific font--is the old, pre-Unicode way of 
implementing special characters. The rightmost columns of the same table tell 
you that the same ANSI code will produce an outlined, 8-petal floral dingbat if 
the character is formatted as ZapfDingbats.

Unless you have a specific requirement to avoid Unicode (e.g., a need to 
produce MIF files that are compatible with FM versions prior to v8), it is 
generally better to reference special characters by their Unicode hex code, 
which is (theoretically, at least) universal in any Unicode font that supports 
the codepage that contains the character.

-FR


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:12:25 -0500
From: ma...@verizon.net
To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

 Hi. I got the information from  
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CD0QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2FCharacterSets%2Fcharacter_sets.pdfei=GY_pUZeXE8n8rQHv94GIAwusg=AFQjCNEADIHLoVklxZjm2FE3eoYSJiivNAsig2=eqrSkmCmmAGN9qHV8eEcMgbvm=bv.49478099,d.aWM
 Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I 
hoped it would work for FM 10, too. Obviously, I need to update my 
understanding of FM 10 and character sets. Thanks, everyone. I am saving your 
responses for reference the next time the special-character struggle comes up. 
Which it will.  On 07/19/13, Fred Ridderdocu...@hotmail.com wrote: Where did 
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RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Fred Ridder
Where did you get that 097 code point?  Decimal 097 (hex 0061) is actually the 
code point for a Latin lower-case a, and perhaps the instruction you cite 
assumed that you would format the character as Symbol font, which maps the 
Greek alphabet to the corresponding Latin alphabet code points and yields an 
alpha glyph in place of a Latin a glyph.

But if you're using a Unicode font that supports the appropriate codepage, you 
should be able to use the code point for the proper Greek character, which is 
hex 03B1 (u+03B1). There are several ways to insert this character:
You can use the Character palette (File  Utilities  Character Palette)
You can use the File  Utilities  Hex Input commandYou can type it directly 
using the hex keypad mode described in the list last weekYou can copy the 
character from the Windows Character Map tool and paste it into the FrameMaker 
document.

-Fred Ridder


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:17:34 -0500
From: ma...@verizon.net
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't enter alpha character in text

Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system.  I am wasting way, way too much 
time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am trying to insert a lower case 
alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into text. The key code 
Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character set does not 
work (it comes out as an x). I have gone cross-eyed trying to find the 
character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a way to 
search for the character.  If anyone can solve this annoyance for me, I will be 
very grateful. --Nancy


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Re: Adobe Tech Comm Content Strategy and Tools Survey

2013-07-19 Thread Alan Litchfield
Done:

Some interesting and leading questions.

I note that the company will not notify competition winners directly, but that 
the participants must remember to contact the contact from 1 October. Bit dodgy 
really.

The Winner’s details will be published on our blog 
https://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/ and also on the following public forums for a 
period of one month.

Twitter URL: https://twitter.com/AdobeTCS

Facebook URL: https://www.facebook.com/adobetcs

LinkedIn URL: 
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Technical-Communications-Professionals-Group-2381149/about;

Alan

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On 19/07/2013, at 8:26 PM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wr...@tycoint.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Adobe conducts a Adobe Tech Comm Content Strategy and Tools Survey.
 The link is below.
 If you want to vote for/against any specific licensing models, then here is
 the place to tell directly to Adobe.
 
 Best regards
 
 Winfried
 
 -Original Message-
 From: frameusers...@googlegroups.com [mailto:frameusers...@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Stephan Will
 Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:07 PM
 To: frameusers...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [frameusers-de] Adobe TCS Umfrage
 
 Hallo in die Runde,
 
 das Adobe TCS Team hat eine Umfrage ins Netz gestellt (auf Englisch).
 Siehe
 http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/07/adobe-tech-comm-content-strategy-and-tools-survey-launched.html
 
 Eine Frage bezieht sich auch auf die Akzeptanz des Abo-Modells für
 zukünftige TCS-Versionen.
 
 Gruß
 Stephan
 
 
 
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RE: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
FM 9 and FM 10 should work identically in regard to _this_ font issue, so no 
need to worry about that in this case. :)

Most importantly, from that link document, on page 13, it shows that you need 
to use the Symbol font to get an alpha (for the value 097).

Z

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:12 PM
To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

 Hi. I got the information from

http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CD0QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2FCharacterSets%2Fcharacter_sets.pdfei=GY_pUZeXE8n8rQHv94GIAwusg=AFQjCNEADIHLoVklxZjm2FE3eoYSJiivNAsig2=eqrSkmCmmAGN9qHV8eEcMgbvm=bv.49478099,d.aWM

Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I hoped 
it would work for FM 10, too.

Obviously, I need to update my understanding of FM 10 and character sets.

Thanks, everyone. I am saving your responses for reference the next time the 
special-character struggle comes up. Which it will.


On 07/19/13, Fred Ridderdocu...@hotmail.commailto:docu...@hotmail.com wrote:

Where did you get that 097 code point?
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OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Rick Quatro
I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
r...@frameexpert.com




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Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, all.Well, life turned out to be simpler than I'd feared.(Syed, I didn't get the result you describe. As you stated, Alt-097 produces a lowercase a (in Arial, anyway). When I switch it to Symbol, I got a small uppercase A in what looks like a serif font.)However, I copied and pasted my source text from a Word file into NotePad. The symbol came through. I then copied and pasted it into FrameMaker. The symbol came through again!So I'm all set for now. Gawd, if I never had to struggle with another font issue, I would die happy.Thanks, everyone. Happy Friday!On 07/19/13, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:Alt-097 is simply the character lower-case ‘a’. Enter it, highlight it and then set it to the symbol font (using the character designer preferably!) and it will show you what you want.ZFrom: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy AllisonSent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:18 AMTo: framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: Can't enter alpha character in textHi, all. I use FM 10on a Windows 7 system.I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into text.The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character set does not work (it comes out as an "x"). I have gone cross-eyed trying to find the character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a way to search for the character. If anyone can solve this annoyance for me, I will be very grateful.--Nancy
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Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Linda Rose
So glad to hear someone else say that.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:

 That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe I'll just
 beat my head against the wall for a while and save myself even more money.

 -Fred

 --
 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700
 From: s...@leximation.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course


 Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it
 even better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic
 (never taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day
 XSL-FO class I took from him).

 https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/

 If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.

 ...scott

  On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

 I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
 excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
 code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.

 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing inc.585-283-5045r...@frameexpert.com



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RE: OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Fred Ridder
That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe I'll just beat 
my head against the wall for a while and save myself even more money.

-Fred

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700
From: s...@leximation.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course


  

  
  
Thanks Rick. This
does look like a great class and the discount makes it even
better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was
fantastic (never taken his online class, but this is a lot
cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class I took from him).



   
https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/



If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.



...scott



  
  
  On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:



  I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
r...@frameexpert.com





  


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RE: OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Fred,

 

I have always been a book learner, but I have had a hard time understanding
XSLT, even after reading 3 books on the subject. I just started the class
last week, and the lights are starting to come on. The course includes 481
pages of notes to supplement the course slides, so it is definitely a good
value.

 

Rick

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:07 PM
To: Scott Prentice; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: OT: Discount on XSL Course

 

That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe I'll just
beat my head against the wall for a while and save myself even more money.

-Fred

  _  

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700
From: s...@leximation.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course

Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it
even better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic
(never taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day
XSL-FO class I took from him).

https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/

If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.

...scott

On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.
 
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Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Scott Prentice
This is definitely not for everyone. XSL can make your brain hurt. But 
if you take it in small doses over time, you might find that it really 
is useful .. that is .. if you work with XML.



On 7/19/13 3:10 PM, Linda Rose wrote:

So glad to hear someone else say that.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com 
mailto:docu...@hotmail.com wrote:


That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe
I'll just beat my head against the wall for a while and save
myself even more money.

-Fred


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700
From: s...@leximation.com mailto:s...@leximation.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course


Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount
makes it even better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it
was fantastic (never taken his online class, but this is a lot
cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class I took from him).

https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/

If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.

...scott

On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The 
coupon
code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
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r...@frameexpert.com  mailto:r...@frameexpert.com






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Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Matt Sullivan
Holy cow,After discount it's only USD74!!!I'm IN!
-MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.798.7596 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com@mattrsullivanLinkedInfacebookmattrsullivan.com

On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com wrote:
  

  
  
Thanks Rick. This
does look like a great class and the discount makes it even
better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was
fantastic (never taken his online class, but this is a lot
cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class I took from him).


https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/

If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.

...scott

  
  
  On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:


  I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.

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Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
r...@frameexpert.com





  

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Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Matt Sullivan
Yep, but like so many things (CSS, HTML5, EPUB, XML, DITA, Extend/FrameScript) little doses over time can make a big difference.I sat in on an XSLT session by Dave Gash at the STC conference this spring and it helped turn on the lights in under an hour!I'm hopeful this might take me to that next level. For the price, I think it's certainly going to be worth much more than the investment.
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On Jul 19, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe I'll just beat my head against the wall for a while and save myself even more money.-FredDate: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700From:s...@leximation.comTo:framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL CourseThanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it even better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic (never taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class I took from him).https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this onescottOn 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
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Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Scott Prentice
Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it 
even better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic 
(never taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day 
XSL-FO class I took from him).


https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/

If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.

...scott

On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.

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Re: Eclipse Help from Frame books

2013-07-19 Thread Ben Allums

On 7/8/2013 9:46 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote:

I'm currently using Mif2Go to convert my FrameMaker books to Eclipse
User Assistance. I've been using it for about 10 years now. I tried out
WebWorks ePublisher about 5 years ago, and I found it wasn't quite as
flexible as Mif2Go when it came to organizing the Eclipse UA XML files
for tables of contents, but it might have improved by now.


Fei Min,

I'd appreciate your feedback on ePublisher's Eclipse Help support. 
Specifically, any details about your need to organize your Eclipse UA 
XML files.  If you were using ePublisher for Eclipse Help 5 years ago, 
that would have been our initial release for the help runtime.


Thank you.


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Re: Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Robert Lauriston
Are you sure there's an alpha in the font you're using? You can
inspect it with Windows' Character Map utility. It will indicate the
key sequence to type it in the status bar.

If you're using a Unicode font, 097 is wrong. Use one of the methods
documented here:

http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/3b1/index.htm

Or just cut and paste from the browser test page that links to.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system.

  I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I
 am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case
 a) into text.

 The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character
 set does not work (it comes out as an x).
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OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-19 Thread Alan Litchfield
Actually Richard...

On 19/07/13 8:41 AM, Combs, Richard wrote:
> John Posada wrote:
>   
>> Off list. Aside from it is interesting to a small subset, its just plain
>> boring now.
> You think that's boring? The logical next topic is: Should the debate about 
> whether the CC discussion belongs off-list or on-list be off-list or on-list? 
> ;-)
>

I don't that is necessarily the next logical topic. *I* think it ought 
to be about whether Frame has a future...

:P

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Adobe Tech Comm Content Strategy and Tools Survey

2013-07-19 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi,

Adobe conducts a "Adobe Tech Comm Content Strategy and Tools Survey".
The link is below.
If you want to vote for/against any specific licensing models, then here is
the place to tell directly to Adobe.

Best regards

Winfried

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Hallo in die Runde,

das Adobe TCS Team hat eine Umfrage ins Netz gestellt (auf Englisch).
Siehe
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/07/adobe-tech-comm-content-strategy-and-tools-survey-launched.html

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Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 2013-Jul-19 2:17 PM, Nancy Allison wrote:
> Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system.
>  I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple 
> thing: I am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or 
> a lower-case a) into text.
> The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special 
> character set does not work (it comes out as an "x"). I have gone 
> cross-eyed trying to find the character in the Character Palette, 
> which does not seem to provide a way to search for the character.
>

You can make a variable containing \u03B1 and insert it as required, 
provided the font you are using contains that glyph.

HTH,

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Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Alt-097 is simply the character lower-case ?a?. Enter it, highlight it and then 
set it to the symbol font (using the character designer preferably!) and it 
will show you what you want.

Z

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:18 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't enter alpha character in text

Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system.

 I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am 
trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into 
text.

The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character 
set does not work (it comes out as an "x"). I have gone cross-eyed trying to 
find the character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a 
way to search for the character.

If anyone can solve this annoyance for me, I will be very grateful.

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Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Fred Ridder
Where did you get that 097 code point?  Decimal 097 (hex 0061) is actually the 
code point for a Latin lower-case "a", and perhaps the instruction you cite 
assumed that you would format the character as Symbol font, which maps the 
Greek alphabet to the corresponding Latin alphabet code points and yields an 
alpha glyph in place of a Latin "a" glyph.

But if you're using a Unicode font that supports the appropriate codepage, you 
should be able to use the code point for the proper Greek character, which is 
hex 03B1 (u+03B1). There are several ways to insert this character:
You can use the Character palette (File > Utilities > Character Palette)
You can use the File > Utilities > Hex Input commandYou can type it directly 
using the hex keypad mode described in the list last weekYou can copy the 
character from the Windows Character Map tool and paste it into the FrameMaker 
document.

-Fred Ridder


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:17:34 -0500
From: ma...@verizon.net
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't enter alpha character in text

Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system.  I am wasting way, way too much 
time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am trying to insert a lower case 
alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into text. The key code 
Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character set does not 
work (it comes out as an "x"). I have gone cross-eyed trying to find the 
character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a way to 
search for the character.  If anyone can solve this annoyance for me, I will be 
very grateful. --Nancy



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Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Lin Sims
Hi Nancy,

If you look closely at the table, you'll see that the alpha symbol appears
in the Symbol font column. In other words, Adobe/Frame is advising that you
enter ANSI 097 (for "a") and apply the Symbol font. So you understood just
fine, you just missed the last step. At the end of the week, that's
understandable!

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Nancy Allison  wrote:

>  Hi. I got the information from
>
>
> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=1=web=1=rja=0CD0QFjAA=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2FCharacterSets%2Fcharacter_sets.pdf=GY_pUZeXE8n8rQHv94GIAw=AFQjCNEADIHLoVklxZjm2FE3eoYSJiivNA=eqrSkmCmmAGN9qHV8eEcMg=bv.49478099,d.aWM
>
> Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I
> hoped it would work for FM 10, too.
>
> Obviously, I need to update my understanding of FM 10 and character sets.
>
> Thanks, everyone. I am saving your responses for reference the next time
> the special-character struggle comes up. Which it will.
>
>
> On 07/19/13, Fred Ridder wrote:
>
> Where did you get that 097 code point?
>
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Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Fred Ridder
The table that contains the ANSI 097 <-> lower-case alpha mapping is in the 
section titled "Symbol and ZapfDingbats character sets" and the lower-case 
alpha character and character name are in the column of the table headed 
"Symbol set: graphic and name". What this tells you is that this character 
mapping applies *only* to the Symbol font. This method--relying on the 
character mapping of a specific font--is the old, pre-Unicode way of 
implementing special characters. The rightmost columns of the same table tell 
you that the same ANSI code will produce an outlined, 8-petal floral dingbat if 
the character is formatted as ZapfDingbats.

Unless you have a specific requirement to avoid Unicode (e.g., a need to 
produce MIF files that are compatible with FM versions prior to v8), it is 
generally better to reference special characters by their Unicode hex code, 
which is (theoretically, at least) universal in any Unicode font that supports 
the codepage that contains the character.

-FR


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:12:25 -0500
From: ma...@verizon.net
To: docudoc at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

 Hi. I got the information from  
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=1=web=1=rja=0CD0QFjAA=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2FCharacterSets%2Fcharacter_sets.pdf=GY_pUZeXE8n8rQHv94GIAw=AFQjCNEADIHLoVklxZjm2FE3eoYSJiivNA=eqrSkmCmmAGN9qHV8eEcMg=bv.49478099,d.aWM
 Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I 
hoped it would work for FM 10, too. Obviously, I need to update my 
understanding of FM 10 and character sets. Thanks, everyone. I am saving your 
responses for reference the next time the special-character struggle comes up. 
Which it will.  On 07/19/13, Fred Ridder wrote: Where 
did you get that 097 code point?   
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Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Combs, Richard
Fred Ridder wrote:

> The table that contains the ANSI 097 <-> lower-case alpha mapping is in the
> section titled "Symbol and ZapfDingbats character sets" and the lower-case
> alpha character and character name are in the column of the table headed
> "Symbol set: graphic and name". What this tells you is that this character
> mapping applies *only* to the Symbol font. This method--relying on the
> character mapping of a specific font--is the old, pre-Unicode way of
> implementing special characters. The rightmost columns of the same table tell
> you that the same ANSI code will produce an outlined, 8-petal floral dingbat
> if the character is formatted as ZapfDingbats.
> 
> Unless you have a specific requirement to avoid Unicode (e.g., a need to
> produce MIF files that are compatible with FM versions prior to v8), it is
> generally better to reference special characters by their Unicode hex code,
> which is (theoretically, at least) universal in any Unicode font that supports
> the codepage that contains the character.

In fact, if you read "FrameMaker 9 character sets" on page 4 of that PDF 
instead of jumping to the tables in the "Support for FrameMaker 7.x character 
set" section, you'll see information about how to enter Unicode characters, and 
it mirrors what Fred posted earlier. 

Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hmmm ? do you have the symbol font installed? The symptom you describe is what 
generally what I see happen when a font is not available to FM ? it just 
displays the base character (?a? in this case).

Because, I just tested it in FM and it worked fine for me!

Of course, if you are using Unicode fonts, then it is better to use the Unicode 
value for the alpha character rather than an ?a? in the symbol font. I based my 
response (i.e., using 097) from your original question. J

Z

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:45 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

Hi, all.

Well, life turned out to be simpler than I'd feared.

(Syed, I didn't get the result you describe. As you stated, Alt-097 produces a 
lowercase a (in Arial, anyway). When I switch it to Symbol, I got a small 
uppercase A in what looks like a serif font.)

However, I copied and pasted my source text from a Word file into NotePad. The 
symbol came through. I then copied and pasted it into FrameMaker. The symbol 
came through again!

So I'm all set for now. Gawd, if I never had to struggle with another font 
issue, I would die happy.

 Thanks, everyone. Happy Friday!
On 07/19/13, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)%3cSyed.Hosain at aeris.net>> wrote:

Alt-097 is simply the character lower-case ?a?. Enter it, highlight it and then 
set it to the symbol font (using the character designer preferably!) and it 
will show you what you want.

Z

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:18 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Can't enter alpha character in text

Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system.

 I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am 
trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into 
text.

The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character 
set does not work (it comes out as an "x"). I have gone cross-eyed trying to 
find the character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a 
way to search for the character.

If anyone can solve this annoyance for me, I will be very grateful.

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Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
FM 9 and FM 10 should work identically in regard to _this_ font issue, so no 
need to worry about that in this case. :)

Most importantly, from that link document, on page 13, it shows that you need 
to use the Symbol font to get an alpha (for the value 097).

Z

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:12 PM
To: docudoc at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text

 Hi. I got the information from

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=1=web=1=rja=0CD0QFjAA=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2FCharacterSets%2Fcharacter_sets.pdf=GY_pUZeXE8n8rQHv94GIAw=AFQjCNEADIHLoVklxZjm2FE3eoYSJiivNA=eqrSkmCmmAGN9qHV8eEcMg=bv.49478099,d.aWM

Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I hoped 
it would work for FM 10, too.

Obviously, I need to update my understanding of FM 10 and character sets.

Thanks, everyone. I am saving your responses for reference the next time the 
special-character struggle comes up. Which it will.


On 07/19/13, Fred Riddermailto:docudoc at hotmail.com>> 
wrote:

Where did you get that 097 code point?
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OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Rick Quatro
I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com






OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Scott Prentice
Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it 
even better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic 
(never taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day 
XSL-FO class I took from him).

https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/

If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.

...scott

On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
> excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
> code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-283-5045
> rick at frameexpert.com
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OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Matt Sullivan
Holy cow,

After discount it's only USD74!!!

I'm IN!

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Scott Prentice  wrote:

> Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it even 
> better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic (never 
> taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class 
> I took from him).
> 
> https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/
> 
> If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.
> 
> ...scott
> 
> On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
>> excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
>> code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.
>> 
>> Rick Quatro
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>> 585-283-5045
>> rick at frameexpert.com
>> 
>> 
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OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Fred Ridder
That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe I'll just beat 
my head against the wall for a while and save myself even more money.

-Fred

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700
From: s...@leximation.com
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course






Thanks Rick. This
does look like a great class and the discount makes it even
better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was
fantastic (never taken his online class, but this is a lot
cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class I took from him).




https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/



If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.



...scott





  On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:



  I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com








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OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Linda Rose
So glad to hear someone else say that.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Fred Ridder  wrote:

> That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe I'll just
> beat my head against the wall for a while and save myself even more money.
>
> -Fred
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700
> From: sp10 at leximation.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course
>
>
> Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it
> even better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic
> (never taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day
> XSL-FO class I took from him).
>
> https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/
>
> If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.
>
> ...scott
>
>  On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>
> I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
> excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
> code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.585-283-5045rick at frameexpert.com
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OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Fred,



I have always been a book learner, but I have had a hard time understanding
XSLT, even after reading 3 books on the subject. I just started the class
last week, and the lights are starting to come on. The course includes 481
pages of notes to supplement the course slides, so it is definitely a good
value.



Rick



From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:07 PM
To: Scott Prentice; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: OT: Discount on XSL Course



That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe I'll just
beat my head against the wall for a while and save myself even more money.

-Fred

  _  

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700
From: s...@leximation.com
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course

Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it
even better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic
(never taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day
XSL-FO class I took from him).

https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/

If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.

...scott

On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com




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OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Scott Prentice
This is definitely not for everyone. XSL can make your brain hurt. But 
if you take it in small doses over time, you might find that it really 
is useful .. that is .. if you work with XML.


On 7/19/13 3:10 PM, Linda Rose wrote:
> So glad to hear someone else say that.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Fred Ridder  <mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe
> I'll just beat my head against the wall for a while and save
> myself even more money.
>
> -Fred
>
> 
> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700
> From: sp10 at leximation.com <mailto:sp10 at leximation.com>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com <mailto:framers at 
> lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course
>
>
> Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount
> makes it even better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it
> was fantastic (never taken his online class, but this is a lot
> cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class I took from him).
>
> https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/
>
> If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.
>
> ...scott
>
> On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>
> I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
> excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The 
> coupon
> code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-283-5045  
> rick at frameexpert.com  <mailto:rick at frameexpert.com>
>
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OT: Discount on XSL Course

2013-07-19 Thread Matt Sullivan
Yep, but like so many things (CSS, HTML5, EPUB, XML, DITA, Extend/FrameScript) 
little doses over time can make a big difference.

I sat in on an XSLT session by Dave Gash at the STC conference this spring and 
it helped turn on the lights in under an hour!

I'm hopeful this might take me to that next level. For the price, I think it's 
certainly going to be worth much more than the investment.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Jul 19, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Fred Ridder  wrote:

> That may be, but XSL makes my brain bone hurt, big time. Maybe I'll just beat 
> my head against the wall for a while and save myself even more money.
> 
> -Fred
> 
> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:40:18 -0700
> From: sp10 at leximation.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Discount on XSL Course
> 
> Thanks Rick. This does look like a great class and the discount makes it even 
> better. I've taken a class from G. Ken Holman and it was fantastic (never 
> taken his online class, but this is a lot cheaper than the 5-day XSL-FO class 
> I took from him).
> 
> https://www.udemy.com/practical-transformation-using-xslt-and-xpath/
> 
> If you're interested in XSL, I'd jump on this one.
> 
> ...scott
> 
> On 7/19/13 1:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> I am not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but Ken Holman's
> excellent XSL class is available at a 75% discount on Udemy.com. The coupon
> code is HEATUP and the discount expires Monday.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-283-5045
> rick at frameexpert.com
> 
> 
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Eclipse Help from Frame books

2013-07-19 Thread Ben Allums
On 7/8/2013 9:46 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote:
> I'm currently using Mif2Go to convert my FrameMaker books to Eclipse
> User Assistance. I've been using it for about 10 years now. I tried out
> WebWorks ePublisher about 5 years ago, and I found it wasn't quite as
> flexible as Mif2Go when it came to organizing the Eclipse UA XML files
> for tables of contents, but it might have improved by now.

Fei Min,

I'd appreciate your feedback on ePublisher's Eclipse Help support. 
Specifically, any details about your need to organize your Eclipse UA 
XML files.  If you were using ePublisher for Eclipse Help 5 years ago, 
that would have been our initial release for the help runtime.

Thank you.


Ben Allums
allums at webworks.com
512-381-8885



Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Robert Lauriston
Are you sure there's an alpha in the font you're using? You can
inspect it with Windows' Character Map utility. It will indicate the
key sequence to type it in the status bar.

If you're using a Unicode font, 097 is wrong. Use one of the methods
documented here:

http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/3b1/index.htm

Or just cut and paste from the "browser test page" that links to.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Nancy Allison  wrote:
> Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system.
>
>  I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I
> am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case
> a) into text.
>
> The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character
> set does not work (it comes out as an "x").


Structured FM font issue ; char tag applied but format is not being applied WAS: Can't enter alpha character in text

2013-07-19 Thread Craig Ede
This might be the perfect time for this question:

In a structured xml document we've defined an element called  that is used 
to contain glyphs that are known to exist in Arial Unicode MS. Most of the rest 
of the document text is in Arial. We have the  element mapping to a 
character tag called unicodeFont that is defined to change the font family to 
Arial Unicode MS and set the Weight and Variation as Regular.



When the xml is brought into Framemaker, all the  elements end up as 
Arial, many of which then show as question marks, yet they are tagged with the 
correct character format. If we select one and change the family to Arial 
Unicode MS and update all, all the characters become what we expect.



If anyone can explain why these are not coming in as Arial Unicode MS as they 
should, I would greatly appreciate it. Our italics formatting uses the same 
strategy, and it works. Why would the Font Family be different.



Thanks.

Craig

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