Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-11 Thread Scott Turner
Yes it can be done, and it is effective for printed materials. I did this for documents back around Frame 5 onward. I used conditional text to set the chapter bleed tabs. That was back when the company k was with produces a printed manual as a product. > On Aug 10, 2016, at 09:53, Denis Daly

[Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-11 Thread Denis Daly
Thanks to all, for the excellent advice on this topic. It is very much appreciated. Denis Denis Daly Technical Writer [cid:image001.png@01CEBECA.0440CD30] Kilbrittain, Co. Cork, IRELAND Postcode: P72 FR82 Phone: +353

Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-11 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 8/10/2016 11:37 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote: I would suggest you use thumbs tabs on every page, and move them down the page as the chapters increment. This makes them easier to use. I can tell you how to do this (automatically, unstructured) if you decide to go down this route. I would be

Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-11 Thread Harding, Dan
"That seems wrong to me. Master pages should not vary from chapter to chapter." Since when? As long as the page dimensions and main text flow frames are identical, master page ancillary content can most certainly vary by chapter. You are not limited to using a single master page set for an

Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-11 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:39 -0500 11/8/16, Theresa de Valence wrote: >On 8/10/2016 11:37 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote: >>I would suggest you use thumbs tabs on every page, and move them down >>the page as the chapters increment. This makes them easier to use. I >>can tell you how to do this (automatically, unstructured)

Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-11 Thread john . x . posada
No, but it makes your life easier. Even if you have 10 or more different master pages, wouldn't it be easier to have on MP and just define which page to use? The only time I could picture multiple MP sets is one for each client or document type (Release note vs instructions_ John X Posada AVP |

Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-11 Thread Harding, Dan
Then I'm missing something in the discussion: I'm not creating additional master page sets. By default, a FM file has a "Left" and a "Right" master page... which I am using. I'm simply copying the relevant background object group from the side tab master FM file and pasting it onto the "Right"

Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

2016-08-11 Thread Monique Semp
> I'll be presenting nuts-and-bolts examples of how to do a bunch of > "structured/DITA things" in Word, FrameMaker, Doxygen/Javadoc, and MadCap > Flare... I gave this presentation to the STC-Berkeley chapter last night, and per several requests from this list, am sharing the slide deck. You

Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-11 Thread john . x . posada
And a cover page, and a TOC page,and a Front Matter page, and a horizontal layout page if you are inclined Can't you have a mater page for each of the side tabs, then have FM select the MP automatically based on a paragraph style you can apply to the section? I haven't been following this thread

Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

2016-08-11 Thread Etzel, Gary
My question is not directed at you specifically, Monique, but I'm curious about how the term "structure/DITA" came into play, as if they are interchangeable and mean the same thing. I am seeing this used more and more in presentations and online, and it really gets under my skin. DITA is one

Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
My view is that all importable elements should be defined in an external .fm file that serves as a template for all files in a book. Then you can use Apply Master Pages to clean things up after reorganizing. Manually tying formats to the current sequence of .fm files in a .book incurs significant

Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

2016-08-11 Thread Pat Christenson
Thanks, Monique! I will definitely take a look at this. Pat Christenson -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Monique Semp Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:52 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

2016-08-11 Thread john . x . posada
Actually ...I see it opposite from you. Structure/DITA to me notes the DITA version and if it was another, say, Structure/SGML as another kind. John X Posada AVP | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY

Re: [Framers] Request for Spanish Translators

2016-08-11 Thread Craig, Alison
Rick: Until my company was purchased 3 years ago we used ADT International (formerly Anthea Languages) out of France. They did excellent work for us over a period of 8 years and the price was extremely competitive (I did a comprehensive RFP once and nobody could beat their prices). Our

Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

2016-08-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
You should post the link to that presentation on techwr-l as well. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at

Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-11 Thread Steve Rickaby
In this interesting discussion about master page strategies, it's worth remembering that FrameMaker gives you the tools to apply master pages automatically in both a structured and unstructured environments: the UnstructMasterPageMaps and StructMasterPageMaps tables on the reference pages.

Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

2016-08-11 Thread Monique Semp
when we use the term "structure/DITA", don't we give the impression that structured authoring is DITA? That you can't have one without the other? And that's just not true. My experience is that you can easily (well, relatively easily) implement structured authoring in a tool like FrameMaker,

[Framers] nix the attachments let's put them in Tips and Tricks page

2016-08-11 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Framers, Although I had not restricted attachments for this Framers list, I've decided to do so today. Attachments generally are not a good idea for lists this large. When someone attaches a file, all 1,134 list members receive it. Probably only one or two really wanted it. Attachments also

Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

2016-08-11 Thread Monique Semp
> The broader point I was commenting on is whether DITA has become so prevalent > that people who do not know about structured authoring are starting to > believe that implementing structured authoring is the same thing as > implementing DITA, since the two terms are often used interchangeably.

Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

2016-08-11 Thread Etzel, Gary
Well, what I was trying to say is that it's relatively easy to implement literal structured authoring in FrameMaker. Once you figure out the mechanics of writing an EDD, it's pretty easy to create a simple structure that formalizes the rules that you have already been applying mentally in the

Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 125, Issue 9

2016-08-11 Thread Craig, Alison
Rick: When I did a large RFP for translation a while back, I found that various - though not all - companies charged for some or all of following items (usually by the hour): * Project Analysis/Prep * Glossary Prep (units) * Post Processing, Delivery, TM *

Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 125, Issue 9

2016-08-11 Thread Wroblewski, Victoria
Rick, I current work with a company called TrueLanguage based out of Atlanta (we are based out of Chicago), they do Frame projects for us. We have all types of projects with them for UI, HTML files, Frame files, and both small and larger projects. http://www.truelanguage.com/ Years back

Re: [Framers] nix the attachments let's put them in Tips and Tricks page

2016-08-11 Thread Alan Litchfield
Thanks Carol, Much appreciated, on both points. Alan On 11/08/16 12:52 pm, Carol J. Elkins wrote: Framers, Although I had not restricted attachments for this Framers list, I've decided to do so today. Attachments generally are not a good idea for lists this large. When someone attaches a

Re: [Framers] cumulative or independent? - patches/updates for FM 2015 (FM 13)

2016-08-11 Thread Caroline Tabach
Have people installed without problems, as people found bugs in the previous updates? Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Tel: +972-077-7745-042| carol...@radcom.com | www.radcom.com -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com]