'Bold' not inserted in Character Formats
I have a weird problem on my hands, and I probably have had it for a long time (years). I have a problem with setting some of my Character Tags to bold. I am not sure whether it is isolated to the Helvetica font, but this is how it goes: I start the usual way by CTRL-D to the Character Designer. Set all to 'As Is' Name the tag (e.g. Bold or Caution, see sample clip from MIF file) Set all to 'As Is' again. Set Font Weight to 'Bold' It looks OK, but nothing happens, as this MIF sample shows: Font FTag `Bold' FWeight `' FLocked No # end of Font Font FTag `Caution' FWeight `' FUnderlining FNumeric FLocked No # end of Font As implied above, the font for most paragraph tags is Helvetica. And within paragraph tags the font weight setting to 'Bold' is OK. Now, if I seem to be able to set this character tag correctly and someone else is using it on his computer and everything seems to be working OK, the next time I see it and check it out the setting used is actually 'Bolded' instead of 'Bold'. I have the Helvetica Bold installed on all computers involved, and these are originally fonts that we got with our all licensed PageMaker 5, 6 and 6.5 packages through the years. I believe it is the 6.0 distro we are using. These distros included some 200 fonts free upon registering and sending a special message, including the Helvetica regular, bold, oblique and bold oblique. Now, if I change the tags manually within a MIF copy as below, everything seems to work as expected when I open it in FM again... Font FTag `Bold' FWeight `Bold' FLocked No # end of Font Font FTag `Caution' FWeight `Bold' FUnderlining FNumeric FLocked No # end of Font ... until you then go to the Character Catalog, the you see that everything is changed to 'Bolded' again! This is an unstructured document, but I am opening it in Structured FM, currently with a lot of structured files open that is rather time consuming to have to close and open again. Could this (opening an unstructured file in Structured FM with a lot of structured files open) be a problem? Best regards, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Supervisor Publications Air Atlanta Icelandic ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Question about Frame to PDF start pages
This problem happens frequently enought that we've included it in our in-house documentation. Here's what we say: PDF doesnt open to the first page This problem commonly happens to books converted to FrameMaker 7 from earlier versions. To fix this problem, perform the following steps: 1. Open the FrameMaker book file, and select the first line (the book), as shown in the following illustration. Picture would go here 2. Choose Format Document PDF Setup. The PDF Setup for Selected Files window opens. 3. On the Settings tab, enter 1 in the Open PDF Document On Page field, then click Set. It seems the problem occurs because the book hasn't been told on which page to open. That's why the last file wins. Hope this helps. Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
preventing specific words from being hyphenated
Hi all, Is there a way to prevent specific words from being hyphenated on a soft carriage return? I would like our company name to always appear on a single line. Thanks.Jon ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: preventing specific words from being hyphenated
Look in the FrameMaker Help index under hyphenation suppressing. The first linked topic directly refers to preventing hyphenation of company names. The second linked topic describes how you can suppress hyphenation of specific instances of words by typing the key sequence Esc, n, s. Another approach that might work is to tag the word with a character tag that specifies Language: None. The most common use for this is to suppress spell-checking of things like URLs or code snippets, but I believe it also suppresses hyphenation. My opinions only; I don;t speak for Intel. Fred Ridder Intel Parsippany, NJ From: Jon Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: preventing specific words from being hyphenated Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 15:18:18 -0400 Hi all, Is there a way to prevent specific words from being hyphenated on a soft carriage return? I would like our company name to always appear on a single line. Thanks.Jon _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: preventing specific words from being hyphenated
Jon Harvey wrote: Is there a way to prevent specific words from being hyphenated on a soft carriage return? I would like our company name to always appear on a single line. From the online help (FM6) under Controlling Hyphenation: To prevent FrameMaker from ever hyphenating a word: Enter the word in the Correction text box, enter a hyphen before the word, and click Learn. Make sure the word doesn't contain any hyphens other than the one before it. You might also want to consider using variables for things like company and product names that, in today's world, are sometimes rather ephemeral. :-) HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: 'Bold' not inserted in Character Formats
At 04:57 AM 5/26/2006, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
I have a weird problem on my hands, and I probably have had it for a
long time (years). I have a problem with setting some of my Character
Tags to bold. I am not sure whether it is isolated to the Helvetica
font, but this is how it goes:
I have seen this as well. In my current template, body tags use
AGaramond. I have a character tag set to As Is, and then Bold.
When I apply this tag to body text, nothing happens. When I
make a tag that explicitly references AGaramond Bold, then
I get bold text, but not when I use a more generically defined tag.
I don't have a solution for this other than to make a new character
tag that uses the dedicated bold font. Is that the only way?
--
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Re: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Illustrator is mainly for working with vector artwork while Photoshop is mainly for working with bitmap artwork. Photoshop is probably more appropriate for the work you are doing. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Cris Reeser wrote: Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. I have used both since version 1.0 and can't imagine being without either - and I'm not an illustrator. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Illustrator is mainly a vector-art editing program, while Photoshop concentrates in pixel-based images. Illustrator will probably do the job for you: if you have Acrobat you can make an Acrobat from PowerPoint and edit it in Illustrator, usually with surprisingly good results. If your bosses can afford it, I'd get them to spring for the Adobe CS2 suite which includes both, plus InDesign (so you can practice for the next or next-but-one FrameMaker). The Pro version includes Acrobat Pro, which you may already have, and GoLive, an (IMHO) useless web-design tool. If they worry about the spend, the best combo is probably Illustrator CS2 plus Photoshop Elements - a cheap cut-down version of Photoshop that doesn't do CMYK, just RGB, but is very cheap and very good at what it does do. best -- Mark Barratt Text Matters Information design: we help explain things using language | design | systems | process improvement __ phone +44 (0)118 986 8313 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mark_barratt web http://www.textmatters.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
PhotoShop is more versatile and has a shorter learning curve. Illustrator is good if you are making pin diagrams (semiconductors etc). You can take any screenshot, photo of a product, or a picture and edit it in PhotoShop. Illustrator is a designer. Whatever little I know. Illustrator you can't master over a weekend. Photoshop, you can learn to make basic edits in a day. Nandini -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cris Reeser Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nandini%40resonate.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
If you plan to get one of them, you might consider getting both as part of the Adobe Creative Suite 2. On the Adobe website, Photoshop is $649, and CS2 is $250 more at $899, but you get full new versions of Adobe Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, and InDesign CS2 software with new Version Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos. So you get both Photoshop and Illustrator, and InDesign as well. InDesign is a page layout program like Pagemaker - it is what I use for making our installation poster, the covers for our printed manuals, and a quick-reference card. john From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Cris Reeser Sent: Fri 5/26/2006 3:57 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivata.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
If you plan to get one of them, you might consider getting both as part of the Adobe Creative Suite 2. On the Adobe website, Photoshop is $649, and CS2 is $250 more at $899, but you get full new versions of Adobe Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, and InDesign CS2 software with new Version Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos. So you get both Photoshop and Illustrator, and InDesign as well. InDesign is a page layout program like Pagemaker - it is what I use for making our installation poster, the covers for our printed manuals, and a quick-reference card. John And Adobe Acrobat Professional! Karen L. Zorn Zorn Technologies, Inc. Mesa, AZ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you. You are describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks. If budget is a concern, you can also try: PaintShopPro $79 US http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro Free evaluation version available Win only the Gimp **FREE** http://www.gimp.org Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.. -Michael -Original Message- From: Cris Reeser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
My $.02 Cleaning up graphics is one of Photoshop's target tasks. If you have the money, Photoshop is the way to go. Creative Suite is worth the price, since it includes Photoshop, Illustrator, *and* Acrobat Pro. You will find that any sufficiently powerful bitmap editing application is difficult to use. More power usually means more options, which in turn means more ways to accidentally do something wrong! Fortunately, Photoshop is one of the world's most popular packages, so all sorts of help is available. Does everyone understand the difference between vector and bitmap graphics? I can elaborate if necessary. Joe Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael O'Neill Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:11 PM To: 'Cris Reeser'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you. You are describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks. If budget is a concern, you can also try: PaintShopPro $79 US http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro Free evaluation version available Win only the Gimp **FREE** http://www.gimp.org Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.. -Michael -Original Message- From: Cris Reeser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jmalin%40tuvox.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: 'Bold' not inserted in Character Formats
Martha J Davidson wrote: At 04:57 AM 5/26/2006, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: I have a weird problem on my hands, and I probably have had it for a long time (years). I have a problem with setting some of my Character Tags to bold. I am not sure whether it is isolated to the Helvetica font, but this is how it goes: I have seen this as well. In my current template, body tags use AGaramond. I have a character tag set to As Is, and then Bold. When I apply this tag to body text, nothing happens. When I make a tag that explicitly references AGaramond Bold, then I get bold text, but not when I use a more generically defined tag. I think in both cases, FM sees the boldface version as a separate font instead of a weight variation. I'm surprised that it's happening with plain vanilla Helvetica, although I recall it happening years ago with the Helvetica Neue family -- each different weight appeared as a separate font (Helvetica 45 and Helvetica 65 were two of them, IIRC). You may be able to solve this with the appropriate additions to the [Fonts] section of maker.ini. We use Adobe's OpenType Futura, and had the same problem. Adding the following lines to the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section of maker.ini seemed to solve the problem: Futura Std Medium, Regular, Regular=FuturaStd-Medium, Regular, Regular, * Futura Std Medium, Italic, Regular=FuturaStd-Medium, Oblique, Regular, * Futura Std Medium, Regular, Bold=FuturaStd-Heavy, Regular, Regular, * Futura Std Medium, Italic, Bold=FuturaStd-Heavy, Oblique, Regular, * Of course, figuring out exactly what to add can be problematic. I recall there was some trial and error, and ATM Deluxe was essential to figuring out the Frame font name (the right side of the = sign). The [UnknownToKnownFontMap] section may be another area to explore. I recall that we used to use it to map AvantGarde SemiBold to AvantGarde DemiBold (or vice versa). Unfortunately, the arcane details of how the fonts entries in maker.ini work don't seem to be documented anywhere (beyond the inadequate comments in the file), so such vague hints are about all I can offer. If you're in luck, someone who's solved the same problem with the same fonts will chime in with the exact fix. :-) (If not, and if you all figure it out, be sure to post the solution for the benefit of the next person.) Good luck! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Sounds like a smarter use of PowerPoint and Word would be the far more economical (time *AND* money) solution. I'm not sure which would be better. Illustrator is geared toward vector illustrations... are these images you need to clean up vector-based? If not, there's PhotoShop... but if all you're doing is making slight edits, save your money and get PaintShop Pro... But more to the point, I'll bet some simple changes to how these PPTs and DOCs are being made would solve your problem. $0 for additional software, and 0 additional time spent cleaning them up. On 5/26/06, Cris Reeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
'Bold' not inserted in Character Formats
I have a weird problem on my hands, and I probably have had it for a long time (years). I have a problem with setting some of my Character Tags to bold. I am not sure whether it is isolated to the Helvetica font, but this is how it goes: I start the usual way by CTRL-D to the Character Designer. Set all to 'As Is' Name the tag (e.g. Bold or Caution, see sample clip from MIF file) Set all to 'As Is' again. Set Font Weight to 'Bold' It looks OK, but nothing happens, as this MIF sample shows: > # end of Font > # end of Font As implied above, the font for most paragraph tags is Helvetica. And within paragraph tags the font weight setting to 'Bold' is OK. Now, if I seem to be able to set this character tag correctly and someone else is using it on his computer and everything seems to be working OK, the next time I see it and check it out the setting used is actually 'Bolded' instead of 'Bold'. I have the Helvetica Bold installed on all computers involved, and these are originally fonts that we got with our all licensed PageMaker 5, 6 and 6.5 packages through the years. I believe it is the 6.0 distro we are using. These distros included some 200 fonts free upon registering and sending a special message, including the Helvetica regular, bold, oblique and bold oblique. Now, if I change the tags manually within a MIF copy as below, everything seems to work as expected when I open it in FM again... > # end of Font > # end of Font ... until you then go to the Character Catalog, the you see that everything is changed to 'Bolded' again! This is an unstructured document, but I am opening it in Structured FM, currently with a lot of structured files open that is rather time consuming to have to close and open again. Could this (opening an unstructured file in Structured FM with a lot of structured files open) be a problem? Best regards, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Supervisor Publications Air Atlanta Icelandic
Question about Frame to PDF start pages
Fellow Framers, I am turning to this group once again, because I agree with what others have said about this group being one of the absolute best resources for people who work with FrameMaker. I am sure one of you Frame whiz kids will be able to help me with this one. My question of the day concerns printing a book to PDF. First, the setup. I am: * Using Frame 7.0 and Acrobat Professional 7.0. * Using the Adobe PDF printer driver in Frame. * (In the PDF Setup... dialog box) Setting the Open PDF Document on Page option to 1. * NOT printing to file. (Frame prompts me for the PDF file name.) Now, no matter what I do, when the PDF file opens in Acrobat, it invariably opens to page 1, not of the book, but of the last *file* in the book. This is annoying because I must then instruct Acrobat that I really do want the book to open to page 1 of the BOOK and save it again. What is the magic secret to get Frame to instruct Acrobat properly to open the PDF to page 1 of the entire book? This is not urgent, but it is a nuisance to have to do that every time. I get the posts in digest form, so if you have suggestions, please reply directly to me (as well as to the list, if applicable). Thanks, Chuck Beck Chuck Beck | Sr. Information Developer | Infor | office: 614-523-7302 | Charles.Beck at infor.com
Question about Frame to PDF start pages
This problem happens frequently enought that we've included it in our in-house documentation. Here's what we say: PDF doesn?t open to the first page This problem commonly happens to books converted to FrameMaker 7 from earlier versions. To fix this problem, perform the following steps: 1. Open the FrameMaker book file, and select the first line (the book), as shown in the following illustration. << Picture would go here >> 2. Choose Format >> Document >> PDF Setup. The PDF Setup for Selected Files window opens. 3. On the Settings tab, enter 1 in the Open PDF Document On Page field, then click Set. It seems the problem occurs because the book hasn't been told on which page to open. That's why the last file "wins". Hope this helps. Steve
preventing specific words from being hyphenated
Hi all, Is there a way to prevent specific words from being hyphenated on a soft carriage return? I would like our company name to always appear on a single line. Thanks.Jon
preventing specific words from being hyphenated
Nonbreaking space Esc space h, Control+space -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+joel.meier=thomson@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+joel.meier=thomson.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jon Harvey Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 13:18 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: preventing specific words from being hyphenated Hi all, Is there a way to prevent specific words from being hyphenated on a soft carriage return? I would like our company name to always appear on a single line. Thanks.Jon ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as joel.meier at thomson.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/joel.meier%40thomson .com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
preventing specific words from being hyphenated
Look in the FrameMaker Help index under hyphenation > suppressing. The first linked topic directly refers to preventing hyphenation of company names. The second linked topic describes how you can suppress hyphenation of specific instances of words by typing the key sequence Esc, n, s. Another approach that might work is to tag the word with a character tag that specifies Language: None. The most common use for this is to suppress spell-checking of things like URLs or code snippets, but I believe it also suppresses hyphenation. My opinions only; I don;t speak for Intel. Fred Ridder Intel Parsippany, NJ >From: "Jon Harvey" >To: >Subject: preventing specific words from being hyphenated >Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 15:18:18 -0400 > >Hi all, > > > >Is there a way to prevent specific words from being hyphenated on a soft >carriage return? I would like our company name to always appear on a >single line. > > > >Thanks.Jon > _ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
preventing specific words from being hyphenated
Jon Harvey wrote: > Is there a way to prevent specific words from being > hyphenated on a soft carriage return? I would like our > company name to always appear on a single line.
'Bold' not inserted in Character Formats
At 04:57 AM 5/26/2006, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
>I have a weird problem on my hands, and I probably have had it for a
>long time (years). I have a problem with setting some of my Character
>Tags to bold. I am not sure whether it is isolated to the Helvetica
>font, but this is how it goes:
I have seen this as well. In my current template, body tags use
AGaramond. I have a character tag set to As Is, and then Bold.
When I apply this tag to body text, nothing happens. When I
make a tag that explicitly references AGaramond Bold, then
I get bold text, but not when I use a more generically defined tag.
I don't have a solution for this other than to make a new character
tag that uses the dedicated bold font. Is that the only way?
--
Martha Jane {Kolman | Davidson}
Dances With Words
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"Too many words bring about exhaustion."
--Tao Te Ching, Chapter 5 (translated by Sheets/Tovey)
OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Illustrator is mainly for working with vector artwork while Photoshop is mainly for working with bitmap artwork. Photoshop is probably more appropriate for the work you are doing. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer
OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Cris Reeser wrote: > Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My > writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We > need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or > MSWord files. > I have used both since version 1.0 and can't imagine being without either - and I'm not an illustrator. > We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, > artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that > cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale > because the hidden lines or text show up again. > > We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not > have the source file. > Illustrator is mainly a vector-art editing program, while Photoshop concentrates in pixel-based images. Illustrator will probably do the job for you: if you have Acrobat you can make an Acrobat from PowerPoint and edit it in Illustrator, usually with surprisingly good results. If your bosses can afford it, I'd get them to spring for the Adobe CS2 suite which includes both, plus InDesign (so you can practice for the next or next-but-one FrameMaker). The Pro version includes Acrobat Pro, which you may already have, and GoLive, an (IMHO) useless web-design tool. If they worry about the spend, the best combo is probably Illustrator CS2 plus Photoshop Elements - a cheap cut-down version of Photoshop that doesn't do CMYK, just RGB, but is very cheap and very good at what it does do. best -- Mark Barratt Text Matters Information design: we help explain things using language | design | systems | process improvement __ phone +44 (0)118 986 8313 email markb at textmatters.com skype mark_barratt web http://www.textmatters.com
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
PhotoShop is more versatile and has a shorter learning curve. Illustrator is good if you are making pin diagrams (semiconductors etc). You can take any screenshot, photo of a product, or a picture and edit it in PhotoShop. Illustrator is a designer. Whatever little I know. Illustrator you can't master over a weekend. Photoshop, you can learn to make basic edits in a day. Nandini -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+nandini=resonate@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+nandini=resonate.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Cris Reeser Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as nandini at resonate.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nandini%40resonate.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
If you plan to get one of them, you might consider getting both as part of the Adobe Creative Suite 2. On the Adobe website, Photoshop is $649, and CS2 is $250 more at $899, but you get "full new versions of Adobe Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, and InDesign CS2 software with new Version Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos." So you get both Photoshop and Illustrator, and InDesign as well. InDesign is a page layout program like Pagemaker - it is what I use for making our installation poster, the covers for our printed manuals, and a quick-reference card. john From: framers-bounces+jsgammato=imprivata@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Cris Reeser Sent: Fri 5/26/2006 3:57 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsgammato at imprivata.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivata.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
>If you plan to get one of them, you might consider getting both as part of the Adobe Creative Suite 2. On the Adobe website, Photoshop is >$649, and CS2 is $250 more at $899, but you get "full new versions of Adobe Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, and InDesign CS2 software with new Version Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos." So you get both Photoshop and Illustrator, and InDesign as well. InDesign is a page layout program like Pagemaker - it is what I use for making our installation poster, the covers for our printed manuals, and a quick-reference card. John And Adobe Acrobat Professional! Karen L. Zorn Zorn Technologies, Inc. Mesa, AZ
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you. You are describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks. If budget is a concern, you can also try: PaintShopPro $79 US http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro Free evaluation version available Win only the Gimp **FREE** http://www.gimp.org Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.. -Michael -Original Message- From: Cris Reeser [mailto:c...@magma-da.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
My $.02 Cleaning up graphics is one of Photoshop's target tasks. If you have the money, Photoshop is the way to go. Creative Suite is worth the price, since it includes Photoshop, Illustrator, *and* Acrobat Pro. You will find that any sufficiently powerful bitmap editing application is difficult to use. More power usually means more options, which in turn means more ways to accidentally do something wrong! Fortunately, Photoshop is one of the world's most popular packages, so all sorts of help is available. Does everyone understand the difference between vector and bitmap graphics? I can elaborate if necessary. Joe Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 jmalin at tuvox.com www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael O'Neill Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:11 PM To: 'Cris Reeser'; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you. You are describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks. If budget is a concern, you can also try: PaintShopPro $79 US http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro Free evaluation version available Win only the Gimp **FREE** http://www.gimp.org Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.. -Michael -Original Message- From: Cris Reeser [mailto:c...@magma-da.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jmalin at tuvox.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jmalin%40tuvox.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
'Bold' not inserted in Character Formats
Martha J Davidson wrote: > At 04:57 AM 5/26/2006, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > >I have a weird problem on my hands, and I probably have had it for a > >long time (years). I have a problem with setting some of my > Character > >Tags to bold. I am not sure whether it is isolated to the Helvetica > >font, but this is how it goes: > > I have seen this as well. In my current template, body tags > use AGaramond. I have a character tag set to As Is, and then Bold. > When I apply this tag to body text, nothing happens. When I > make a tag that explicitly references AGaramond Bold, then I > get bold text, but not when I use a more generically defined tag. I think in both cases, FM sees the boldface version as a separate font instead of a weight variation. I'm surprised that it's happening with plain vanilla Helvetica, although I recall it happening years ago with the Helvetica Neue family -- each different weight appeared as a separate font (Helvetica 45 and Helvetica 65 were two of them, IIRC). You may be able to solve this with the appropriate additions to the [Fonts] section of maker.ini. We use Adobe's OpenType Futura, and had the same problem. Adding the following lines to the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section of maker.ini seemed to solve the problem: Futura Std Medium, Regular, Regular=FuturaStd-Medium, Regular, Regular, * Futura Std Medium, Italic, Regular=FuturaStd-Medium, Oblique, Regular, * Futura Std Medium, Regular, Bold=FuturaStd-Heavy, Regular, Regular, * Futura Std Medium, Italic, Bold=FuturaStd-Heavy, Oblique, Regular, * Of course, figuring out exactly what to add can be problematic. I recall there was some trial and error, and ATM Deluxe was essential to figuring out the "Frame font name" (the right side of the = sign). The [UnknownToKnownFontMap] section may be another area to explore. I recall that we used to use it to map AvantGarde SemiBold to AvantGarde DemiBold (or vice versa). Unfortunately, the arcane details of how the fonts entries in maker.ini work don't seem to be documented anywhere (beyond the inadequate comments in the file), so such vague hints are about all I can offer. If you're in luck, someone who's solved the same problem with the same fonts will chime in with the exact fix. :-) (If not, and if you all figure it out, be sure to post the solution for the benefit of the next person.) Good luck! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Sounds like a smarter use of PowerPoint and Word would be the far more economical (time *AND* money) solution. I'm not sure which would be better. Illustrator is geared toward vector illustrations... are these images you need to clean up vector-based? If not, there's PhotoShop... but if all you're doing is making slight edits, save your money and get PaintShop Pro... But more to the point, I'll bet some simple changes to how these PPTs and DOCs are being made would solve your problem. $0 for additional software, and 0 additional time spent cleaning them up. On 5/26/06, Cris Reeser wrote: > Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My > writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We > need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or > MSWord files. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
