Cross-reference nightmare - help needed

[Sage DeRosier]

HELP!

 

Here we are on the bleeding edge of a deadline and my production guru
who puts together our master PDF from multiple files of multiple
stand-alone books has encountered one file with suddenly +70 broken
cross-references to multiple different files (both from inside that
file's original stand-alone set and others).

 

He writes:

 

Unfortunately, the only fix I can do is of the one-by-one manual type.
The errors are odd: The messages say Cannot find the file etc., but as
I dig down to the target / source I AM finding the referenced headings
-- so they ARE there, they're not deleted -- but somehow over 70 of them
were broken. Normally, since the target / sources are there, they would
update automatically when the book is generated or x-refs are updated.
I've tried to update the x-refs using a variety of techniques, but they
simply won't update automatically like they should.

 

Anybody have an idea what might have happened? Do you have a clue as to
how to speed up fixing this sort of thing without having to visit each
and every cross-ref?

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

Regards,

Sage DeRosier

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Business Objects

 

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Re: Cross-reference nightmare - help needed

[Art Campbell]

In addition to Rene's ideas, I'd try to build the PDF with all
component files open to eliminate any network delays, hangs, etc.

Art

On 3/22/07, Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Before reinserting, try just opening the FM files in the book, make  sure any 
condition tags are set to the production settings,   choose EditUpdate 
References and select All cross-references.



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globally removing attributes

[Gail Smith]

I have copied the contents of one structured document and pasted it into
a different template. The elements are different.

The original elements had many attributes that carried into the new
document. When I change the element, the attributes from the old element
remain. 

I know you can globally change attributes, but how do you globally
delete them?

 

Gail C. Smith

Novatek Communications, Inc.

500 Helendale Road, Suite 280

Rochester, NY 14609

Phone: 482-4070

Fax: 482-4098

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Multiple types of page numbering?

[mcowan]

Does anyone know how I can solve the following problem?

Document needs to have the typical page number with small romans for the TOC, 
TOF, etc and Arabic numbering for the other chapters in the book.  (That's no 
problem)

HOWEVER, the problem come in when our contract requires us to have the 
following in the header:
  Pages:  xxx (# of xxx)

I got the header set up, but for the # it pulls from the number of the page in 
the document numbering format.

Help???
I'm sure there's a way to do what I want in FM, but I just haven't figured it 
out.
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RE: Cross-reference nightmare - help needed

[White, William]

Hi Sage

If you have tried all the obvious things, here's one more possibility.
I've encountered FM documents with cross-references that have become
corrupted because the the X-Refs contain legacy filenames for the target
documents. I presume this arises because an earlier user renamed the
target document using the Windows Explorer instead of from within
FrameMaker. (I don't know this for sure - it's just an assumption on my
part. Folks more knowledgable about the world of MIFs would know.) I've
been able to solve this partiocular problem by looking inside the MIF of
the document that is crashing the update and deleting the X-Ref(s) that
contain the legacy filenames. Although you are getting a message that 70
X-Refs are broken, there might be only one that is blocking the update.
At least, the last time this happened to me, that was the case.

Will White
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Re: Multiple types of page numbering?

[Art Campbell]

Margie,

Put a tag -- any format will do, although you may want to create a
unique one -- on the last page of the book. Type something in it, then
change the Font properties to white, so it's invisible. Save the file.

In the footers on the master pages of your chapters, set up your page
number area so that it uses the regular page number variable for the
regular page number and a cross reference to the page that carries the
white tag to get the total number of pages.

Art

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Does anyone know how I can solve the following problem?

Document needs to have the typical page number with small romans for the TOC, 
TOF, etc and Arabic numbering for the other chapters in the book.  (That's no 
problem)

HOWEVER, the problem come in when our contract requires us to have the 
following in the header:
  Pages:  xxx (# of xxx)

I got the header set up, but for the # it pulls from the number of the page in 
the document numbering format.



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RE: Multiple types of page numbering?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Well,

This will require some new paragraph tags to be set up, but it can work. Let me 
understand one thing first - do you want page # of total pages in the book, or 
page # of page (based on page count in the file)? I think you want the first 
one, so:

For the first scenario (page # of total page count in the book)

1.) Go the absolute last page in the document. Open the master page for this 
document. Click in an appropriate place in the header (it must be a blank area) 
and add the variable Page Count. (Special  Variable  Page Count).
2.) Now, select this variable in the header, press Control/M to bring up the 
paragraph designer, and keep everything the same about this variable as the 
rest of the font in the header, with the following exception - change the color 
to white (so it doesn't show) and make this a new paragraph tag and call it 
something like TotalPageCount.
3.)Then, for every header on every master page in every file, add this 
information: Page # of x-ref to total page count, where

Page is free text that you manually enter
# is the variable Current Page # (Special  Variable  Current Page #
of is free text that you manually enter
x-ref to total page count is a cross-reference that you have created called 
something like TotalPageCount, it's format is $paratextDefault ¶ Font, and 
it x-refs the TotalPageCount paragraph tag that you set up on the last page of 
the last file in the book. 

You can then apply either a character tag or a paragraph tag to set this output 
from the cross-reference to the numbering format that you want.

Let me know if this makes any sense at all.

TVB   


Tammy L. Van Boening
Engineering Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Multiple types of page numbering?


Does anyone know how I can solve the following problem?

Document needs to have the typical page number with small romans for the TOC, 
TOF, etc and Arabic numbering for the other chapters in the book.  (That's no 
problem)

HOWEVER, the problem come in when our contract requires us to have the 
following in the header:
  Pages:  xxx (# of xxx)

I got the header set up, but for the # it pulls from the number of the page in 
the document numbering format.

Help???
I'm sure there's a way to do what I want in FM, but I just haven't figured it 
out.
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Re: Cross-reference nightmare - help needed

[William Abernathy]

Another possibility is that there has been a change in the file hierarchy 
between the Frame document and the linked files. Have there been any changes to 
the names or the permissions on the targeted files or the directories in which 
they reside, or has the master Frame file been moved?


--William

Sage DeRosier wrote:

HELP!

 


Here we are on the bleeding edge of a deadline and my production guru
who puts together our master PDF from multiple files of multiple
stand-alone books has encountered one file with suddenly +70 broken
cross-references to multiple different files (both from inside that
file's original stand-alone set and others).

 


He writes:

 


Unfortunately, the only fix I can do is of the one-by-one manual type.
The errors are odd: The messages say Cannot find the file etc., but as
I dig down to the target / source I AM finding the referenced headings
-- so they ARE there, they're not deleted -- but somehow over 70 of them
were broken. Normally, since the target / sources are there, they would
update automatically when the book is generated or x-refs are updated.
I've tried to update the x-refs using a variety of techniques, but they
simply won't update automatically like they should.

 


Anybody have an idea what might have happened? Do you have a clue as to
how to speed up fixing this sort of thing without having to visit each
and every cross-ref?

 


Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 


Regards,

Sage DeRosier

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Business Objects


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Clipboard formats priorities

[David Shaked (Wernick)]

I want to change the default Edit  Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior, so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit  Paste Special  Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants
 


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Replace Paragraph Tags

[Howard Rauch]

I reorganizing and formatting for my client a manual that was prepared by 
out-of-country firm. Both firms are using FrameMaker 7.0, but the source firm 
uses a different format from the one my client uses. Importing text and 
reassigning my client's paragraph tags to the source text, but I am doing each 
paragraph manually.
 
Is there a way that I can import text from the source manual and globally 
search and replace the paragraph tags? For example, the source manual uses a 
ameritem tag for body text and my client uses a1body for the same text. My 
client's format has about 25 tags so a global replacement would be a  big help.
 
Thanks in advance
 
Howard Rauch
 
Technology Transfer, Inc.
Linking Creators and Users of Technology
933 North 18th Street
Manitowoc WI 54220
Office: 920-682-1528
Cell: 920-629-0080
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RE: Clipboard formats priorities

[David Shaked (Wernick)]

Never mind - I searched the archives some more and found that Fred Ridder
answered the question on March 2.

 Notice that the maker.ini item starts with the word clipboard,
 which refers to the Windows clipboard. FrameMaker only uses
 the Windows clipboard when pasting content that was copied
 in another application. FrameMaker-to-FrameMaker copy/pasting
 uses an internal mechanism that does not go through the
 Windows clipboard. Internal copy/pasting always comes with
 the formatting intact, which I actually find annoying about
 half the time (for examle, when I'm making a new heading
 from a phrase I copied from the text).

 My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
 Fred Ridder
 Intel
 Parsipany, NJ 


David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants

 

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From: David Shaked (Wernick) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 20:17
To: Framers (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: Clipboard formats priorities

I want to change the default Edit  Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior, so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit  Paste Special  Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants
 


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Re: Framescript capabalities

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:52:33 -0400, Frank Elmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Yes, you can do this with FrameScript. You would need to come up with a 
naming scheme for the new files you would create. With FrameScript, you can 
scan through all the documents in a book for tables and figures. When you 
find one, you create a new document, copy the table/figure to the new 
document, save the document, then insert a hypertext marker in place of the 
table/figure, using the name of the file.

That would work, but then what you'd have would be a whole
bunch of little Frame files.  For tables, there's no other
option, since they are not referencable the way graphics
are.  You could, however, re-import the table files as
insets instead of hyperlinking to them; I'm sure FrameScript
can do that too, since the FDK can.

For the figures, though, I wonder if the OP actually wants
to have them referenced within their anchored frames, rather
than copied into them.  If so, that can't be done with the
FDK; if you use Frame's native graphic export filters, you
get a very poor rendition of the original, at screen (96dpi)
resolution, which will not print well.

However, Mif2Go can export the graphics as the original
graphic files that were imported, except that the original
name is lost (Frame doesn't keep it).  These are at the
full resolution of the originals, and can then be imported
over the originals (replacing them in their frames) by 
reference.

You don't have to buy Mif2Go to do this, the demo version
does the job nicely:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
In the User's Guide, refer to par. 26.2.3.2, Exporting 
embedded graphics before converting and the two following
paragraphs for the details.

The graphics come out with names like yourfile001.gif,
and the sequence is *not* that of the images in Frame;
it's probably the order in which they were originally 
imported.  So you'll want to preview them before you
import them back in.  A handy way to do this is... with
Word.  vbg  Once you're sure you have the right one
for the anchored frame before you, select the image
(not the frame!) in Frame, and use File | Import to
replace it.  That way you don't have to resize, and
any Frame additions (like callouts) remain in place.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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Re: Replace Paragraph Tags

[Alan Litchfield]

Use Paragraph Tools.

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html

Alan

Howard Rauch wrote:
 I reorganizing and formatting for my client a manual that was prepared by
 out-of-country firm. Both firms are using FrameMaker 7.0, but the source firm
 uses a different format from the one my client uses. Importing text and
 reassigning my client's paragraph tags to the source text, but I am doing each
 paragraph manually.

 Is there a way that I can import text from the source manual and globally
 search and replace the paragraph tags? For example, the source manual uses a
 ameritem tag for body text and my client uses a1body for the same text. My
 client's format has about 25 tags so a global replacement would be a  big
 help.

 Thanks in advance

 Howard Rauch

 Technology Transfer, Inc.
 Linking Creators and Users of Technology
 933 North 18th Street
 Manitowoc WI 54220
 Office: 920-682-1528
 Cell: 920-629-0080
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Re: Footnote placement improvement for practical and aesthetic reasons

[Graeme R Forbes]

Hedley's suggestions for improving Frame's footnote handling are all 
very good ones, but the chances of them being implemented are nil, I 
think. Some of us have been complaining about FM's note handling for, 
oh, 14 years, and I have quite a collection of nice messages spanning 
that period from Frame Tech and Adobe, to the effect that yes, this 
is a popular request, and will certainly be considered.


It's been explained to me that getting footnotes to break properly 
across pages would be such a massive project involving such huge 
amounts of code re-writing that the entire population of India would 
need to get degrees in computer science. We are in the same ballpark 
as putting a man or woman on Mars, or curing the common cold, or 
building a working fusion reactor, or getting FM to run natively in 
OSX.


For documents with relatively few footnotes, there's a manual 
workaround involving anchored frames and trial-and-error cutting and 
pasting. I have written up a description of it -- ask and ye shall be 
given. But Rob said



My latest document is 5,000 pages long [...]


Ohmigod!


Graeme
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RE: Replace Paragraph Tags

[Diane Gaskill]

Howard,

Whoa.  Stop.  You are doing this the hard way.  And you don't have to do a
global SR.  There is a much easier way.

1. Import the new text.
2. Click on any paragraph with the ameritem tag.
3. in the para designer, replace the name ameritem with the name albody.
4. Click Update All.  Do NOT click Apply.
5. Frame will display a confirmation box saying Rename all ameritem tags to
allbody.
   Click Yes.  Now all the ameritem tags are renamed to albody, but do not
yet have the albody format.
6. Click any of the _original_ paragraphs that is tagged albody.
7. Click Update All.  Click Yes in the confirmation doalog box.  Now, all of
the allbody text is the same, including the imported text.

Repeat steps 2-7 for each imported tag.

Hope this helps.

Diane Gaskill
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Subject: Replace Paragraph Tags


I reorganizing and formatting for my client a manual that was prepared by
out-of-country firm. Both firms are using FrameMaker 7.0, but the source
firm uses a different format from the one my client uses. Importing text and
reassigning my client's paragraph tags to the source text, but I am doing
each paragraph manually.

Is there a way that I can import text from the source manual and globally
search and replace the paragraph tags? For example, the source manual uses a
ameritem tag for body text and my client uses a1body for the same text. My
client's format has about 25 tags so a global replacement would be a  big
help.

Thanks in advance

Howard Rauch

Technology Transfer, Inc.
Linking Creators and Users of Technology
933 North 18th Street
Manitowoc WI 54220
Office: 920-682-1528
Cell: 920-629-0080
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Footnote placement improvement for practical and aesthetic reasons

[hedley.fin...@myob.com]

As well as allowing multiple short footnotes on a line, Adobe could allow 
long footnotes to flow from a right to the left following page.  It could 
also balance footnotes on facing pages.  If a footnote reference is on a 
right page, it should flow back a long footnote onto the facing left page. 
 Where a succession of longish footnotes follow each other, they should be 
placed at the foot of successive pages.

These are all standard publishing practice, yet here we are at v. 7.x and 
they have still not been implemented.  There was a time when FrameMaker 
was being taken up by academics but until a few things are fixed (like 
interfacing to BiblioText, etc) it ain't going to happen.

In fact, press a few more buttons and you can get me ranting about how 
FrameMaker should always work in double spreads -- balancing facing short 
pages would be a good start.

--
Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
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Cross-reference nightmare - help needed

[Sage DeRosier]

HELP!



Here we are on the bleeding edge of a deadline and my production guru
who puts together our master PDF from multiple files of multiple
stand-alone books has encountered one file with suddenly +70 broken
cross-references to multiple different files (both from inside that
file's original stand-alone set and others).



He writes:



Unfortunately, the only fix I can do is of the one-by-one manual type.
The errors are odd: The messages say "Cannot find the file" etc., but as
I dig down to the target / source I AM finding the referenced headings
-- so they ARE there, they're not deleted -- but somehow over 70 of them
were broken. Normally, since the target / sources are there, they would
update automatically when the book is generated or x-refs are updated.
I've tried to update the x-refs using a variety of techniques, but they
simply won't update automatically like they should.



Anybody have an idea what might have happened? Do you have a clue as to
how to speed up fixing this sort of thing without having to visit each
and every cross-ref?



Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



Regards,

Sage DeRosier

sage.derosier at businessobjects.com

Business Objects

Cross-reference nightmare - help needed

[Rene Stephenson]

Before reinserting, try just opening the FM files in the book, make  sure any 
condition tags are set to the production settings,   choose Edit>Update 
References and select All cross-references.

  HTH
  Rene Stephenson

Sage DeRosier  wrote:  HELP!



Here we are on the bleeding edge of a deadline and my production guru
who puts together our master PDF from multiple files of multiple
stand-alone books has encountered one file with suddenly +70 broken
cross-references to multiple different files (both from inside that
file's original stand-alone set and others).



He writes:



Unfortunately, the only fix I can do is of the one-by-one manual type.
The errors are odd: The messages say "Cannot find the file" etc., but as
I dig down to the target / source I AM finding the referenced headings
-- so they ARE there, they're not deleted -- but somehow over 70 of them
were broken. Normally, since the target / sources are there, they would
update automatically when the book is generated or x-refs are updated.
I've tried to update the x-refs using a variety of techniques, but they
simply won't update automatically like they should.



Anybody have an idea what might have happened? Do you have a clue as to
how to speed up fixing this sort of thing without having to visit each
and every cross-ref?



Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



Regards,

Sage DeRosier

sage.derosier at businessobjects.com

Business Objects



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Cross-reference nightmare - help needed

[Art Campbell]

In addition to Rene's ideas, I'd try to build the PDF with all
component files open to eliminate any network delays, hangs, etc.

Art

On 3/22/07, Rene Stephenson  wrote:
> Before reinserting, try just opening the FM files in the book, make  sure any 
> condition tags are set to the production settings,   choose Edit>Update 
> References and select All cross-references.
>

-- 
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gmail.com
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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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 DoD 358

globally removing attributes

[Gail Smith]

I have copied the contents of one structured document and pasted it into
a different template. The elements are different.

The original elements had many attributes that carried into the new
document. When I change the element, the attributes from the old element
remain. 

I know you can globally change attributes, but how do you globally
delete them?



Gail C. Smith

Novatek Communications, Inc.

500 Helendale Road, Suite 280

Rochester, NY 14609

Phone: 482-4070

Fax: 482-4098

E-mail: gail at novatekcom.com

Multiple types of page numbering?

[mco...@rcn.com]

Does anyone know how I can solve the following problem?

Document needs to have the typical page number with small romans for the TOC, 
TOF, etc and Arabic numbering for the other chapters in the book.  (That's no 
problem)

HOWEVER, the problem come in when our contract requires us to have the 
following in the header:
  Pages:  xxx (# of xxx)

I got the header set up, but for the # it pulls from the number of the page in 
the document numbering format.

Help???
I'm sure there's a way to do what I want in FM, but I just haven't figured it 
out.

Cross-reference nightmare - help needed

[White, William]

Hi Sage

If you have tried all the obvious things, here's one more possibility.
I've encountered FM documents with cross-references that have become
corrupted because the the X-Refs contain legacy filenames for the target
documents. I presume this arises because an earlier user renamed the
target document using the Windows Explorer instead of from within
FrameMaker. (I don't know this for sure - it's just an assumption on my
part. Folks more knowledgable about the world of MIFs would know.) I've
been able to solve this partiocular problem by looking inside the MIF of
the document that is crashing the update and deleting the X-Ref(s) that
contain the legacy filenames. Although you are getting a message that 70
X-Refs are broken, there might be only one that is blocking the update.
At least, the last time this happened to me, that was the case.

Will White
One Lambda Inc



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Multiple types of page numbering?

[Art Campbell]

Margie,

Put a tag -- any format will do, although you may want to create a
unique one -- on the last page of the book. Type something in it, then
change the Font properties to white, so it's invisible. Save the file.

In the footers on the master pages of your chapters, set up your page
number area so that it uses the regular page number variable for the
regular page number and a cross reference to the page that carries the
"white tag" to get the total number of pages.

Art

On 3/22/07, mcowan at rcn.com  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how I can solve the following problem?
>
> Document needs to have the typical page number with small romans for the TOC, 
> TOF, etc and Arabic numbering for the other chapters in the book.  (That's no 
> problem)
>
> HOWEVER, the problem come in when our contract requires us to have the 
> following in the header:
>   Pages:  xxx (# of xxx)
>
> I got the header set up, but for the # it pulls from the number of the page 
> in the document numbering format.


-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Multiple types of page numbering?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Well,

This will require some new paragraph tags to be set up, but it can work. Let me 
understand one thing first - do you want page # of total pages in the book, or 
page # of page (based on page count in the file)? I think you want the first 
one, so:

For the first scenario (page # of total page count in the book)

1.) Go the absolute last page in the document. Open the master page for this 
document. Click in an appropriate place in the header (it must be a blank area) 
and add the variable Page Count. (Special > Variable > Page Count).
2.) Now, select this variable in the header, press Control/M to bring up the 
paragraph designer, and keep everything the same about this variable as the 
rest of the font in the header, with the following exception - change the color 
to white (so it doesn't show) and make this a new paragraph tag and call it 
something like TotalPageCount.
3.)Then, for every header on every master page in every file, add this 
information: Page # of , where

"Page" is free text that you manually enter
"#" is the variable Current Page # (Special > Variable > Current Page #>
"of" is free text that you manually enter
 is a cross-reference that you have created called 
something like TotalPageCount, it's format is <$paratext>, and 
it x-refs the TotalPageCount paragraph tag that you set up on the last page of 
the last file in the book. 

You can then apply either a character tag or a paragraph tag to set this output 
from the cross-reference to the numbering format that you want.

Let me know if this makes any sense at all.

TVB   


Tammy L. Van Boening
Engineering Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
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Does anyone know how I can solve the following problem?

Document needs to have the typical page number with small romans for the TOC, 
TOF, etc and Arabic numbering for the other chapters in the book.  (That's no 
problem)

HOWEVER, the problem come in when our contract requires us to have the 
following in the header:
  Pages:  xxx (# of xxx)

I got the header set up, but for the # it pulls from the number of the page in 
the document numbering format.

Help???
I'm sure there's a way to do what I want in FM, but I just haven't figured it 
out.
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Cross-reference nightmare - help needed

[William Abernathy]

Another possibility is that there has been a change in the file hierarchy 
between the Frame document and the linked files. Have there been any changes to 
the names or the permissions on the targeted files or the directories in which 
they reside, or has the master Frame file been moved?

--William

Sage DeRosier wrote:
> HELP!
> 
>  
> 
> Here we are on the bleeding edge of a deadline and my production guru
> who puts together our master PDF from multiple files of multiple
> stand-alone books has encountered one file with suddenly +70 broken
> cross-references to multiple different files (both from inside that
> file's original stand-alone set and others).
> 
>  
> 
> He writes:
> 
>  
> 
> Unfortunately, the only fix I can do is of the one-by-one manual type.
> The errors are odd: The messages say "Cannot find the file" etc., but as
> I dig down to the target / source I AM finding the referenced headings
> -- so they ARE there, they're not deleted -- but somehow over 70 of them
> were broken. Normally, since the target / sources are there, they would
> update automatically when the book is generated or x-refs are updated.
> I've tried to update the x-refs using a variety of techniques, but they
> simply won't update automatically like they should.
> 
>  
> 
> Anybody have an idea what might have happened? Do you have a clue as to
> how to speed up fixing this sort of thing without having to visit each
> and every cross-ref?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sage DeRosier
> 
> sage.derosier at businessobjects.com
> 
> Business Objects

Clipboard formats priorities

[David Shaked (Wernick)]

I want to change the default Edit > Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior, so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit > Paste Special > Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants

Replace Paragraph Tags

[Howard Rauch]

I reorganizing and formatting for my client a manual that was prepared by 
out-of-country firm. Both firms are using FrameMaker 7.0, but the source firm 
uses a different format from the one my client uses. Importing text and 
reassigning my client's paragraph tags to the source text, but I am doing each 
paragraph manually.

Is there a way that I can import text from the source manual and globally 
search and replace the paragraph tags? For example, the source manual uses a 
ameritem tag for body text and my client uses a1body for the same text. My 
client's format has about 25 tags so a global replacement would be a  big help.

Thanks in advance

Howard Rauch

Technology Transfer, Inc.
"Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
933 North 18th Street
Manitowoc WI 54220
Office: 920-682-1528
Cell: 920-629-0080

Framescript capabalities

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:52:33 -0400, "Frank Elmore"  
wrote:

>Yes, you can do this with FrameScript. You would need to come up with a 
>naming scheme for the new files you would create. With FrameScript, you can 
>scan through all the documents in a book for tables and figures. When you 
>find one, you create a new document, copy the table/figure to the new 
>document, save the document, then insert a hypertext marker in place of the 
>table/figure, using the name of the file.

That would work, but then what you'd have would be a whole
bunch of little Frame files.  For tables, there's no other
option, since they are not referencable the way graphics
are.  You could, however, re-import the table files as
insets instead of hyperlinking to them; I'm sure FrameScript
can do that too, since the FDK can.

For the figures, though, I wonder if the OP actually wants
to have them referenced within their anchored frames, rather
than copied into them.  If so, that can't be done with the
FDK; if you use Frame's native graphic export filters, you
get a very poor rendition of the original, at screen (96dpi)
resolution, which will not print well.

However, Mif2Go can export the graphics as the original
graphic files that were imported, except that the original
name is lost (Frame doesn't keep it).  These are at the
full resolution of the originals, and can then be imported
over the originals (replacing them in their frames) by 
reference.

You don't have to buy Mif2Go to do this, the demo version
does the job nicely:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
In the User's Guide, refer to par. 26.2.3.2, "Exporting 
embedded graphics before converting" and the two following
paragraphs for the details.

The graphics come out with names like "yourfile001.gif",
and the sequence is *not* that of the images in Frame;
it's probably the order in which they were originally 
imported.  So you'll want to "preview" them before you
import them back in.  A handy way to do this is... with
Word.Once you're sure you have the right one
for the anchored frame before you, select the image
(not the frame!) in Frame, and use File | Import to
replace it.  That way you don't have to resize, and
any Frame additions (like callouts) remain in place.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Framescript capabalities

[Frank Elmore]

Yes, you can do this with FrameScript. You would need to come up with a 
naming scheme for the new files you would create. With FrameScript, you can 
scan through all the documents in a book for tables and figures. When you 
find one, you create a new document, copy the table/figure to the new 
document, save the document, then insert a hypertext marker in place of the 
table/figure, using the name of the file.

Frank Elmore
Project leader for FrameScript

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To: "Frame Users" ; "Free Framers List" 

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:00 PM
Subject: Framescript capabalities


> If this isn't the right list for this question please direct me elsewhere.
>
> I'm looking into Framescript and want to know if it has the capabilities I 
> need. I have a Frame book consisting of individual files. Nothing earth 
> shattering. The book is print ready and now I want to do the following:
>
> I want to strip out all the tables and figures and make them separate 
> files. I then want to insert links into the frame files to "hyperlink" to 
> these separate files.
>
> So in essence, I would have files consisting of just text, with links to 
> any figures and tables rather than having the figures and tables embedded 
> in the Frame files.
>
> Is this possible to do with Framescript?
>
> Thank you,
> Dottie Marsico
>
>
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