Re: Odd maths font problem... more

[Steve Rickaby]

Further... if anyone is following this... there appear to two different Symbol 
fonts:

. That installed here with FrameMaker 7.0 on Mac appears to be copyright Apple 
Computer and also appears to be Unicode

. That used by the originator of the documents appears to be copyright 
Monotype/Type Solutions and is not Unicode

However, creating a Mac version of the latter and installing it temporarily:

a. Does not change the existing maths character transpositions

b. Causes other character transpositions such as arrow characters (ASCII 174) 
turning into a circle with a diagonal through it (ASCII 198).

I have a workaround for the 'bad' equations, which is to use the author's PDFs 
and import them into the target FrameMaker document, but I absolutely need to 
diagnose this problem for the future. I have worked with FrameMaker equations 
cross-platform in the past, including some books with a very large volume of 
equations, without any problem of this sort.

-- 
Steve
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Re: Odd maths font problem... more

[Paul Findon]

On 4 Sep 2007, at 10:23, Steve Rickaby wrote:

I have a workaround for the 'bad' equations, which is to use the  
author's PDFs and import them into the target FrameMaker document,  
but I absolutely need to diagnose this problem for the future. I  
have worked with FrameMaker equations cross-platform in the past,  
including some books with a very large volume of equations, without  
any problem of this sort.


Steve,

Have you tried booting in Mac OS 9? This may well be a Classic issue,  
especially as you say it worked OK in the past.


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Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional

[David Schor]

Is there a bug or limitation regarding FrameMaker Conditional Text Tag names?
I received a base document with several different conditions
reflecting various model names within the same product family.
Examples of tag names are:

ABC2024
ABC224D
ABC208
ADE208
ADE224
AFG208
and so on

After setting the system to show the first ABC condition but hide the
latter two, I generated Help files in Webworks but the other ABC
conditions showed.

In an experiment, I changed one of the conditions to ABC_208, and lo
and behold, ABC_208 stayed hidden. However, ABC224D remains in the
document when it shouldn't. According to this pattern, would I have to
change this to ABC__224D for FM to recognize the difference?

And what if I need to add additional variations to a name like
ABC2024G and ABC2024F? Does Frame not recognize the difference?

Hope you can help me,

Thanks,
David

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Re: Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional

[Yves Barbion]

Hi David,

check the Show/Hide settings in WebWorks Publisher, not in FrameMaker. I
don't know which version of WebWorks you are using, but remember a bug
WebWorks 7 where the Show/Hide settings didn't work for a complete
FrameMaker book. I had to select a specific file in my WebWorks project and
set the Show/Hide settings file by file.

Good luck.


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On 9/4/07, David Schor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a bug or limitation regarding FrameMaker Conditional Text Tag
 names?
 I received a base document with several different conditions
 reflecting various model names within the same product family.
 Examples of tag names are:

 ABC2024
 ABC224D
 ABC208
 ADE208
 ADE224
 AFG208
 and so on

 After setting the system to show the first ABC condition but hide the
 latter two, I generated Help files in Webworks but the other ABC
 conditions showed.

 In an experiment, I changed one of the conditions to ABC_208, and lo
 and behold, ABC_208 stayed hidden. However, ABC224D remains in the
 document when it shouldn't. According to this pattern, would I have to
 change this to ABC__224D for FM to recognize the difference?

 And what if I need to add additional variations to a name like
 ABC2024G and ABC2024F? Does Frame not recognize the difference?

 Hope you can help me,

 Thanks,
 David

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 MSSI - Marvell Software Solutions Israel
 Tel: (+972) 3 7662823
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Re: Odd maths font problem... solved!

[Steve Rickaby]

A friend suggest the following: 'Are you certain the author is using Symbol for 
his equations? Other typefaces probably contain math symbols.'

He was right. I remembered where to go in the bowels of the Equation Editor to 
find out the default fonts, and lo! The originator of the documents not using 
Symbol, he's using a font called called 'MathematicalPi'. Which I do not have. 
Changing it back to Symbol magically restores the equations to health, more or 
less and aside from a few spacing issues.

Moral 1: FrameMaker reports and handles missing fonts really well... in the 
text. In the Equation Editor, it fails to report a missing font, silently subs 
the wrong one, and crashes if you try to edit the equation in question. Nice.

Moral 2: It's perfectly possible to learn something new about FrameMaker every 
day.

-- 
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Re: batch processing of large numbers of text files?

[Chris Borokowski]

EditPad is also a good contender:
http://www.editpadlite.com/

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   Very useful when editing multiple ASCII files. I ue it to perform
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Re: Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional

[David Schor]

Silly me. Turned out the Visible/Hidden settings in the Conditions
dialog box were the culprit. Now I know, and I generated the help
versions successfully.

Thanks a million, Yves!

David

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On 9/4/07, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi David,

 check the Show/Hide settings in WebWorks Publisher, not in FrameMaker. I
 don't know which version of WebWorks you are using, but remember a bug
 WebWorks 7 where the Show/Hide settings didn't work for a complete
 FrameMaker book. I had to select a specific file in my WebWorks project and
 set the Show/Hide settings file by file.

 Good luck.


 --
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 Documentation Architect
 Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
 



 On 9/4/07, David Schor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there a bug or limitation regarding FrameMaker Conditional Text Tag
 names?
  I received a base document with several different conditions
  reflecting various model names within the same product family.
  Examples of tag names are:
 
  ABC2024
  ABC224D
  ABC208
  ADE208
  ADE224
  AFG208
  and so on
 
  After setting the system to show the first ABC condition but hide the
  latter two, I generated Help files in Webworks but the other ABC
  conditions showed.
 
  In an experiment, I changed one of the conditions to ABC_208, and lo
  and behold, ABC_208 stayed hidden. However, ABC224D remains in the
  document when it shouldn't. According to this pattern, would I have to
  change this to ABC__224D for FM to recognize the difference?
 
  And what if I need to add additional variations to a name like
  ABC2024G and ABC2024F? Does Frame not recognize the difference?
 
  Hope you can help me,
 
  Thanks,
  David
 
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White paper on bleeding thumb tabs

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

On the FrameUser.com web-site there is supposed to be
a white pager which explains how to switch bleeding
thumb tabs automatically. There should also be a
FrameScript script. However, I cannot access neither
of them. The web-site opens completely different pages.

Does anyone have this white paper and the script and
could send it to me?

Thank you very much

Winfried
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RE: Can't save a file in FM 7.2--Thanks!

[Nina Rogers]

Hi, and thanks to all who responded to my question about saving files.
It was indeed an issue with the network configurations and permissions.

Nina

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RE: Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional

[Diane Schaefer]

I noticed the same problem with show+hide. Is there a limit to the
number of conditionals Frame 7.X supports?

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Subject: Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional

Is there a bug or limitation regarding FrameMaker Conditional Text Tag
names?
I received a base document with several different conditions
reflecting various model names within the same product family.
Examples of tag names are:

ABC2024
ABC224D
ABC208
ADE208
ADE224
AFG208
and so on

After setting the system to show the first ABC condition but hide the
latter two, I generated Help files in Webworks but the other ABC
conditions showed.

In an experiment, I changed one of the conditions to ABC_208, and lo
and behold, ABC_208 stayed hidden. However, ABC224D remains in the
document when it shouldn't. According to this pattern, would I have to
change this to ABC__224D for FM to recognize the difference?

And what if I need to add additional variations to a name like
ABC2024G and ABC2024F? Does Frame not recognize the difference?

Hope you can help me,

Thanks,
David

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MSSI - Marvell Software Solutions Israel
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Importing PPT slideshows

[Madeleine Reardon Dimond]

I work for a courseware department that makes
PowerPoint slideshows and then imports the slides to
Framemaker as OLE links to make their printed books.
This process makes huge, unstable files that take
forever to update.

When I asked why they didn't use Frame's Import by
Reference feature, I was told that FrameMaker will
import only the first slide of a show. So although the
Chapter 3 PowerPoint slideshow may have 20 slides,
only Slide 1 will import by reference.

Being used to importing pdfs one page at a time, I
can't help thinking there must be a way to do the same
thing with PowerPoint shows. Does anybody know what it
might be? 

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cursor display oddity

[rebecca officer]

Hi everyone

I just noticed something weird that our documents have probably been
doing for years and just wondered if other people see the same
weirdness.

If we type a space at the beginning of a paragraph, the cursor looks
like it jumps to the right margin. But it only looks that way. If we
type a character after the space, the cursor and the space and the
character all come back to the left where they belong. If the first
character is anything but an ordinary space, the cursor stays on the
left. That's why I haven't noticed till now - I don't often start a
paragraph by typing a space! 

And it gets more complicated. If I start the paragraph with white-space
characters (tabs, hard spaces etc), the cursor stays on the left, but
then if I type a space after the tab etc, it jumps to the right. So it
seems to get confused if I put a space after white space.

Ctrl-l doesn't fix it. I tried multiple paragraph styles, including one
inside a table, in multiple documents from multiple templates, on two
different PCs. All the paragraphs are set to left aligned. Paragraphs
behave like this whether or not there's a right-aligned tab defined or
not.

FM 7.0p579 on Win XP.

It doesn't seem to make any real difference to anything, but made me
curious about what's going on. Any ideas?

Cheers, Rebecca

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Re: Sequential page numbers on alternate pages

[kevinf]

Hello,

Yes, all good points I came to on my own in the last few days. The
stickiest part of all of this is any requirement for special
impositioning tricks. XPress can manage two flows, one linked by hand, on
one wide page, and that system will work all right in translation, but the
pages require tricks to print. At least overriding right/left pages and
adding page numbers by hand results in standard print files.

Thanks to all those who sent suggestions. It's sounding kind of grim.

Kevin


 See my comments below, preceded by 

 Peter Gold wrote:
 This has been asked in various permutations and answered with a variety
 of
 suggested solutions, on one or another of the FrameMaker forums. A
 Google
 search for framemaker page numbering, or framemaker custom page
 numbering,
 should turn up one or more discussions.

 Usually one suggestion is to create a small flow-tagged master-page text
 frame on the master for the particular body page, Left, in this case, to
 hold page numbers.  Then on the first left body page, tag the paragraph
 marker in the text frame with a numbered format that's set to start at
 top
 of column, and press enter a lot of times to push numbers into all
 existing
 pages.

   I wouldn't do this because you can't have references to
 real page numbers, as in cross-references, table of contents and
 index. Also, you'll need to set up two flows: one for the source
 language (A) and one for the target language (B). And you can't have
 flow A on the left master page and B on the right, they will get mixed
 up when FM adds pages.
 On 9/3/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you could create a custom variable which calculates ((current page
 number + 1) / 2), that would do the trick. Does anyone know if this is
 possible?



 Variables don't increment this way.

 If you create Flow A on the left pages and Flow B on the right pages,

 can they have separate numbering?



  No. But, because FM only can have one page number per spread, another
 solution is to create a two-page wide layout, and use standard page
 numbers
 that display only on the left page. You'd need to create a master-page
 text frame for Flow B, with Autoflow property for the right page.

   This will work better for the page numbers and references to
 the page numbers. You may need to try some special impositioning tricks
 in the PDF file, for example if you want to print a booklet
 saddle-stitched.


 Kind regards


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Re: Sequential page numbers on alternate pages

[Fred Ridder]

I'm not sure the situation is as grim as you think. I think the
2-page spread approach gets you most of the way there.

It should be quite easy to prepare English-only or translation-
only versions very by importing the appropriate flow into a
conventional, single-page template. (Remember that the
FileImportFile operation imports on a flow-by-flow basis,
so you can import the two languages into new container
documents separately.)

And if you really need to print a side-by-side version, most
print vendors should be able to handle the imposition required
to produce page signatures from a PDF that contains 2-page
spreads. The one thing you might want to do to make it easier
to verify that the imposition is correct is to number use the
same number but a different language suffix on the left-hand
and right hand pages (e.g. 2-F on the left-nand page and 2-E
on the right-hand, English page) of each 2-page spread.

But I freely admit that I have never had to do this for real...

-Fred Ridder



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Subject: Re: Sequential page numbers on alternate pages
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:01:33 -0600 (MDT)

Hello,

Yes, all good points I came to on my own in the last few days. The
stickiest part of all of this is any requirement for special
impositioning tricks. XPress can manage two flows, one linked by hand, on
one wide page, and that system will work all right in translation, but the
pages require tricks to print. At least overriding right/left pages and
adding page numbers by hand results in standard print files.

Thanks to all those who sent suggestions. It's sounding kind of grim.

Kevin


 See my comments below, preceded by 

 Peter Gold wrote:
 This has been asked in various permutations and answered with a variety
 of
 suggested solutions, on one or another of the FrameMaker forums. A
 Google
 search for framemaker page numbering, or framemaker custom page
 numbering,
 should turn up one or more discussions.

 Usually one suggestion is to create a small flow-tagged master-page 
text
 frame on the master for the particular body page, Left, in this case, 
to

 hold page numbers.  Then on the first left body page, tag the paragraph
 marker in the text frame with a numbered format that's set to start at
 top
 of column, and press enter a lot of times to push numbers into all
 existing
 pages.

   I wouldn't do this because you can't have references to
 real page numbers, as in cross-references, table of contents and
 index. Also, you'll need to set up two flows: one for the source
 language (A) and one for the target language (B). And you can't have
 flow A on the left master page and B on the right, they will get mixed
 up when FM adds pages.
 On 9/3/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you could create a custom variable which calculates ((current page
 number + 1) / 2), that would do the trick. Does anyone know if this is
 possible?



 Variables don't increment this way.

 If you create Flow A on the left pages and Flow B on the right pages,

 can they have separate numbering?



  No. But, because FM only can have one page number per spread, another
 solution is to create a two-page wide layout, and use standard page
 numbers
 that display only on the left page. You'd need to create a 
master-page

 text frame for Flow B, with Autoflow property for the right page.

   This will work better for the page numbers and references to
 the page numbers. You may need to try some special impositioning tricks
 in the PDF file, for example if you want to print a booklet
 saddle-stitched.


 Kind regards


 --
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 Documentation Architect
 Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
 





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Curmudgeon's Corner: "alternate pages"

[Hedley Finger]

I would like to congratulate the correspondents recently discussing 
page numbering on "alternate pages" for getting it right.

"Alternate" means "by turns", or "alternating between one item and 
another item", and so on.

So many people seem to think it is a synonym of "alternative".  Not 
so: you can only have two "alternates" but two or more "alternatives".

Keep up the good work, defenders of English.   8^)

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Odd maths font problem... more

[Steve Rickaby]

Further... if anyone is following this... there appear to two different Symbol 
fonts:

. That installed here with FrameMaker 7.0 on Mac appears to be copyright Apple 
Computer and also appears to be Unicode

. That used by the originator of the documents appears to be copyright 
Monotype/Type Solutions and is not Unicode

However, creating a Mac version of the latter and installing it temporarily:

a. Does not change the existing maths character transpositions

b. Causes other character transpositions such as arrow characters (ASCII 174) 
turning into a circle with a diagonal through it (ASCII 198).

I have a workaround for the 'bad' equations, which is to use the author's PDFs 
and import them into the target FrameMaker document, but I absolutely need to 
diagnose this problem for the future. I have worked with FrameMaker equations 
cross-platform in the past, including some books with a very large volume of 
equations, without any problem of this sort.

-- 
Steve

Odd maths font problem... more

[Paul Findon]

On 4 Sep 2007, at 10:23, Steve Rickaby wrote:

> I have a workaround for the 'bad' equations, which is to use the  
> author's PDFs and import them into the target FrameMaker document,  
> but I absolutely need to diagnose this problem for the future. I  
> have worked with FrameMaker equations cross-platform in the past,  
> including some books with a very large volume of equations, without  
> any problem of this sort.

Steve,

Have you tried booting in Mac OS 9? This may well be a Classic issue,  
especially as you say it worked OK in the past.

Paul

Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional

[David Schor]

Is there a bug or limitation regarding FrameMaker Conditional Text Tag names?
I received a base document with several different conditions
reflecting various model names within the same product family.
Examples of tag names are:

ABC2024
ABC224D
ABC208
ADE208
ADE224
AFG208
and so on

After setting the system to show the first ABC condition but hide the
latter two, I generated Help files in Webworks but the other ABC
conditions showed.

In an experiment, I changed one of the conditions to ABC_208, and lo
and behold, ABC_208 stayed hidden. However, ABC224D remains in the
document when it shouldn't. According to this pattern, would I have to
change this to ABC__224D for FM to recognize the difference?

And what if I need to add additional variations to a name like
ABC2024G and ABC2024F? Does Frame not recognize the difference?

Hope you can help me,

Thanks,
David

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Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional

[Yves Barbion]

Hi David,

check the Show/Hide settings in WebWorks Publisher, not in FrameMaker. I
don't know which version of WebWorks you are using, but remember a bug
WebWorks 7 where the Show/Hide settings didn't work for a complete
FrameMaker book. I had to select a specific file in my WebWorks project and
set the Show/Hide settings file by file.

Good luck.


-- 
Yves Barbion
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor




On 9/4/07, David Schor  wrote:
>
> Is there a bug or limitation regarding FrameMaker Conditional Text Tag
> names?
> I received a base document with several different conditions
> reflecting various model names within the same product family.
> Examples of tag names are:
>
> ABC2024
> ABC224D
> ABC208
> ADE208
> ADE224
> AFG208
> and so on
>
> After setting the system to show the first ABC condition but hide the
> latter two, I generated Help files in Webworks but the other ABC
> conditions showed.
>
> In an experiment, I changed one of the conditions to ABC_208, and lo
> and behold, ABC_208 stayed hidden. However, ABC224D remains in the
> document when it shouldn't. According to this pattern, would I have to
> change this to ABC__224D for FM to recognize the difference?
>
> And what if I need to add additional variations to a name like
> ABC2024G and ABC2024F? Does Frame not recognize the difference?
>
> Hope you can help me,
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> --
> David Schor
> Senior Technical Writer
> MSSI - Marvell Software Solutions Israel
> Tel: (+972) 3 7662823
> Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253
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Odd maths font problem... solved!

[Steve Rickaby]

A friend suggest the following: 'Are you certain the author is using Symbol for 
his equations? Other typefaces probably contain math symbols.'

He was right. I remembered where to go in the bowels of the Equation Editor to 
find out the default fonts, and lo! The originator of the documents not using 
Symbol, he's using a font called called 'MathematicalPi'. Which I do not have. 
Changing it back to Symbol magically restores the equations to health, more or 
less and aside from a few spacing issues.

Moral 1: FrameMaker reports and handles missing fonts really well... in the 
text. In the Equation Editor, it fails to report a missing font, silently subs 
the wrong one, and crashes if you try to edit the equation in question. Nice.

Moral 2: It's perfectly possible to learn something new about FrameMaker every 
day.

-- 
Steve

batch processing of large numbers of text files?

[Chris Borokowski]

EditPad is also a good contender:
http://www.editpadlite.com/

--- David Spreadbury  wrote:

> One such option, for Windows users, is TextPad (www.textpad.com).
>
>   Very useful when editing multiple ASCII files. I ue it to perform
> operations across a complete folder of HTML files on a regular basis.


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Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional

[David Schor]

Silly me. Turned out the Visible/Hidden settings in the Conditions
dialog box were the culprit. Now I know, and I generated the help
versions successfully.

Thanks a million, Yves!

David

David Schor
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MSSI - Marvell Software Solutions Israel
Tel: (+972) 3 7662823
Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253
E-mail: dschor at marvell.com
Web: www.marvell.com

On 9/4/07, Yves Barbion  wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> check the Show/Hide settings in WebWorks Publisher, not in FrameMaker. I
> don't know which version of WebWorks you are using, but remember a bug
> WebWorks 7 where the Show/Hide settings didn't work for a complete
> FrameMaker book. I had to select a specific file in my WebWorks project and
> set the Show/Hide settings file by file.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> --
> Yves Barbion
> Documentation Architect
> Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
> 
>
>
>
> On 9/4/07, David Schor  wrote:
> >
> > Is there a bug or limitation regarding FrameMaker Conditional Text Tag
> names?
> > I received a base document with several different conditions
> > reflecting various model names within the same product family.
> > Examples of tag names are:
> >
> > ABC2024
> > ABC224D
> > ABC208
> > ADE208
> > ADE224
> > AFG208
> > and so on
> >
> > After setting the system to show the first ABC condition but hide the
> > latter two, I generated Help files in Webworks but the other ABC
> > conditions showed.
> >
> > In an experiment, I changed one of the conditions to ABC_208, and lo
> > and behold, ABC_208 stayed hidden. However, ABC224D remains in the
> > document when it shouldn't. According to this pattern, would I have to
> > change this to ABC__224D for FM to recognize the difference?
> >
> > And what if I need to add additional variations to a name like
> > ABC2024G and ABC2024F? Does Frame not recognize the difference?
> >
> > Hope you can help me,
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >

White paper on bleeding thumb tabs

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

On the FrameUser.com web-site there is supposed to be
a white pager which explains how to switch bleeding
thumb tabs automatically. There should also be a
FrameScript script. However, I cannot access neither
of them. The web-site opens completely different pages.

Does anyone have this white paper and the script and
could send it to me?

Thank you very much

Winfried

Can't save a file in FM 7.2--Thanks!

[Nina Rogers]

Hi, and thanks to all who responded to my question about saving files.
It was indeed an issue with the network configurations and permissions.

Nina

Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional

[Diane Schaefer]

I noticed the same problem with show+hide. Is there a limit to the
number of conditionals Frame 7.X supports?

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[mailto:framers-bounces+dschaefer=sandvine.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of David Schor
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 3:40 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; techshoret at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional

Is there a bug or limitation regarding FrameMaker Conditional Text Tag
names?
I received a base document with several different conditions
reflecting various model names within the same product family.
Examples of tag names are:

ABC2024
ABC224D
ABC208
ADE208
ADE224
AFG208
and so on

After setting the system to show the first ABC condition but hide the
latter two, I generated Help files in Webworks but the other ABC
conditions showed.

In an experiment, I changed one of the conditions to ABC_208, and lo
and behold, ABC_208 stayed hidden. However, ABC224D remains in the
document when it shouldn't. According to this pattern, would I have to
change this to ABC__224D for FM to recognize the difference?

And what if I need to add additional variations to a name like
ABC2024G and ABC2024F? Does Frame not recognize the difference?

Hope you can help me,

Thanks,
David

-- 
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Senior Technical Writer
MSSI - Marvell Software Solutions Israel
Tel: (+972) 3 7662823
Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253
E-mail: dschor at marvell.com
Web: www.marvell.com
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Importing PPT slideshows

[Madeleine Reardon Dimond]

I work for a courseware department that makes
PowerPoint slideshows and then imports the slides to
Framemaker as OLE links to make their printed books.
This process makes huge, unstable files that take
forever to update.

When I asked why they didn't use Frame's Import by
Reference feature, I was told that FrameMaker will
import only the first slide of a show. So although the
Chapter 3 PowerPoint slideshow may have 20 slides,
only Slide 1 will import by reference.

Being used to importing pdfs one page at a time, I
can't help thinking there must be a way to do the same
thing with PowerPoint shows. Does anybody know what it
might be? 

Thanks,
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Sequential page numbers on alternate pages

[kev...@dim.com]

Hello,

Yes, all good points I came to on my own in the last few days. The
stickiest part of all of this is any requirement for "special
impositioning tricks." XPress can manage two flows, one linked by hand, on
one wide page, and that system will work all right in translation, but the
pages require tricks to print. At least overriding right/left pages and
adding page numbers by hand results in standard print files.

Thanks to all those who sent suggestions. It's sounding kind of grim.

Kevin


> See my comments below, preceded by >>
>
> Peter Gold wrote:
>> This has been asked in various permutations and answered with a variety
>> of
>> suggested solutions, on one or another of the FrameMaker forums. A
>> Google
>> search for framemaker page numbering, or framemaker custom page
>> numbering,
>> should turn up one or more discussions.
>>
>> Usually one suggestion is to create a small flow-tagged master-page text
>> frame on the master for the particular body page, Left, in this case, to
>> hold page numbers.  Then on the first left body page, tag the paragraph
>> marker in the text frame with a numbered format that's set to start at
>> top
>> of column, and press enter a lot of times to push numbers into all
>> existing
>> pages.
>>
>  >> I wouldn't do this because you can't have references to
> "real" page numbers, as in cross-references, table of contents and
> index. Also, you'll need to set up two flows: one for the source
> language (A) and one for the target language (B). And you can't have
> flow A on the left master page and B on the right, they will get mixed
> up when FM adds pages.
>> On 9/3/07, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
>>
>>> If you could create a custom variable which calculates ((current page
>>> number + 1) / 2), that would do the trick. Does anyone know if this is
>>> possible?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Variables don't increment this way.
>>
>> If you create Flow A on the left pages and Flow B on the right pages,
>>
>>> can they have separate numbering?
>>>
>>
>>
>>  No. But, because FM only can have one page number per spread, another
>> solution is to create a two-page wide layout, and use standard page
>> numbers
>> that display only on the "left page." You'd need to create a master-page
>> text frame for Flow B, with Autoflow property for the "right page."
>>
>  >> This will work better for the page numbers and references to
> the page numbers. You may need to try some special impositioning tricks
> in the PDF file, for example if you want to print a booklet
> "saddle-stitched."
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> --
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> Documentation Architect
> Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
> 
>
>
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Sequential page numbers on alternate pages

[Fred Ridder]

I'm not sure the situation is as grim as you think. I think the
2-page spread approach gets you most of the way there.

It should be quite easy to prepare English-only or translation-
only versions very by importing the appropriate flow into a
conventional, single-page template. (Remember that the
File>Import>File operation imports on a flow-by-flow basis,
so you can import the two languages into new container
documents separately.)

And if you really need to print a side-by-side version, most
print vendors should be able to handle the imposition required
to produce page signatures from a PDF that contains 2-page
spreads. The one thing you might want to do to make it easier
to verify that the imposition is correct is to number use the
same number but a different language suffix on the left-hand
and right hand pages (e.g. 2-F on the left-nand page and 2-E
on the right-hand, English page) of each 2-page spread.

But I freely admit that I have never had to do this for real...

-Fred Ridder


>From: kevinf at dim.com
>To: framers at frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: Sequential page numbers on alternate pages
>Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:01:33 -0600 (MDT)
>
>Hello,
>
>Yes, all good points I came to on my own in the last few days. The
>stickiest part of all of this is any requirement for "special
>impositioning tricks." XPress can manage two flows, one linked by hand, on
>one wide page, and that system will work all right in translation, but the
>pages require tricks to print. At least overriding right/left pages and
>adding page numbers by hand results in standard print files.
>
>Thanks to all those who sent suggestions. It's sounding kind of grim.
>
>Kevin
>
>
> > See my comments below, preceded by >>
> >
> > Peter Gold wrote:
> >> This has been asked in various permutations and answered with a variety
> >> of
> >> suggested solutions, on one or another of the FrameMaker forums. A
> >> Google
> >> search for framemaker page numbering, or framemaker custom page
> >> numbering,
> >> should turn up one or more discussions.
> >>
> >> Usually one suggestion is to create a small flow-tagged master-page 
>text
> >> frame on the master for the particular body page, Left, in this case, 
>to
> >> hold page numbers.  Then on the first left body page, tag the paragraph
> >> marker in the text frame with a numbered format that's set to start at
> >> top
> >> of column, and press enter a lot of times to push numbers into all
> >> existing
> >> pages.
> >>
> >  >> I wouldn't do this because you can't have references to
> > "real" page numbers, as in cross-references, table of contents and
> > index. Also, you'll need to set up two flows: one for the source
> > language (A) and one for the target language (B). And you can't have
> > flow A on the left master page and B on the right, they will get mixed
> > up when FM adds pages.
> >> On 9/3/07, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you could create a custom variable which calculates ((current page
> >>> number + 1) / 2), that would do the trick. Does anyone know if this is
> >>> possible?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Variables don't increment this way.
> >>
> >> If you create Flow A on the left pages and Flow B on the right pages,
> >>
> >>> can they have separate numbering?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>  No. But, because FM only can have one page number per spread, another
> >> solution is to create a two-page wide layout, and use standard page
> >> numbers
> >> that display only on the "left page." You'd need to create a 
>master-page
> >> text frame for Flow B, with Autoflow property for the "right page."
> >>
> >  >> This will work better for the page numbers and references to
> > the page numbers. You may need to try some special impositioning tricks
> > in the PDF file, for example if you want to print a booklet
> > "saddle-stitched."
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yves Barbion
> > Documentation Architect
> > Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
> > 
> >
> >
> >
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