.book Files inside a Book
Hi everybody, I have a feeling that the answer I'm going to get to the following question is, Are you crazy? You can't do that! But, here goes anyway... I have documented programs on a menu. This menu is quite extensive and contains multiple submenus, each with their own programs. Right now my book contains a separate file for each program on the main menu. Each submenu already has its own book. I'd like to be able to plug those .book files into the main menu book and generate a PDF. I can plug the book files in, but they are ignored by FM when I update the book. Is there is a way to accomplish this? Thanks in advance, Jennifer Randel Data Processing Technical Writer Kern High School District ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Problem Importing Visio 2007 Drawing into Frame 7.2
Dear Framers, I am having difficulty saving a Frame 7.2 (unstructured) document after importing a Visio 2007 drawing into Frame. If I get rid of the drawing and use .jpg or some other graphic format, the problem goes away, but I want to be a able to import the original Visio drawing in .vsd format and be able to edit by double-clicking on it and update the source file at the same time by using the link feature. (It does not work even without linking). I have been doing it for a long time, but I have never seen this problem before. I am using Import Object Create from File and then use the browse button to get the file. The file gets imported, but it cannot be saved. Any other changes to the documents after importing it cannot be saved either. Here is the error message: An internal error occurred while writing importing graphic in this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some image data. Please report this error to Adobe Technical Support. The file simply cannot be saved as long as the subject Visio drawing is in the document. It. You have to delete the imported file or choose No to Save before you can close the document. I have renamed the Frame as well as Visio file. It makes no difference. Can someone tell me what is causing it and how to solve it? Any help in that matter would be greatly appreciated. Regards Tarlochan S. Nahal Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: .book Files inside a Book
Not in Frame, no. However, you can generate all the books as PDFs and then merge the PDFs (and include a cover/master page with bookmarks to the books), or create a meta-book of all the files, and create Section or Part pages for each of the component books. Art On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jennifer Randel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, I have a feeling that the answer I'm going to get to the following question is, Are you crazy? You can't do that! But, here goes anyway... I have documented programs on a menu. This menu is quite extensive and contains multiple submenus, each with their own programs. Right now my book contains a separate file for each program on the main menu. Each submenu already has its own book. I'd like to be able to plug those .book files into the main menu book and generate a PDF. I can plug the book files in, but they are ignored by FM when I update the book. Is there is a way to accomplish this? Thanks in advance, Jennifer Randel Data Processing Technical Writer Kern High School District ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM--MIF round-tripping
Is converting between .fm and .mif file formats considered to be safe (ie. no data lost in translation)? My understanding is that they should be - and indeed, I did not notice any glaring differences when I open a .fm and it's corrosponding .mif in Framemaker. However, when I attempted the following experiment: 1) Open .fm file, save as .mif 2) Open .mif from 1), save as .fm (with different name) 3) Open .fm from 2), save as .mif. 4) Compare .mif files created in 1) and 3) using a text diff tool. I found that there were a number of differences, some of which are probably safe to ignore (like XRefLastUpdate elements), but some are more concerning (TabStop and PgfNumTabs elements missing in the latter file, PgfPDFStructureLevel elements having different values..) Goal: In the process of converting several documents from paper to framemaker documents, a large number of (rather randomly placed) discretionary hyphen characters were inserted (probably by the OCR software). I cannot seem to select these characters for use with the find/replace tool in Framemaker, so my idea was to convert to .mif, remove all instances of Char DiscHyphen, and then save back as FM. This appears to be successful, subject to my concerns above. So, I'm wondering.. is it safe to round-trip between .fm and .mif files? And if not, is there an alternate way of accomplishing my task of removing these extra characters? Thanks, Adam Schweitzer Orenda Aerospace Corporation ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM--MIF round-tripping
Adam Schweitzer wrote (in part): Goal: In the process of converting several documents from paper to framemaker documents, a large number of (rather randomly placed) discretionary hyphen characters were inserted (probably by the OCR software). I cannot seem to select these characters for use with the find/replace tool in Framemaker, so my idea was to convert to .mif, remove all instances of Char DiscHyphen, and then save back as FM. This appears to be successful, subject to my concerns above. Searching for the escape code \- (a backslash followed by a hyphen without the quotes) didn't work? That's the standard code for typing a discretionary hyphen in plain-text dialog boxes. See Appendix A of the FrameMaker User Guide for a full list of dialog box codes for special characters. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM--MIF round-tripping
Thanks, Fred. This does work - I was unaware of this feature. Adam From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:50 PM To: Adam Schweitzer; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM--MIF round-tripping Adam Schweitzer wrote (in part): Goal: In the process of converting several documents from paper to framemaker documents, a large number of (rather randomly placed) discretionary hyphen characters were inserted (probably by the OCR software). I cannot seem to select these characters for use with the find/replace tool in Framemaker, so my idea was to convert to .mif, remove all instances of Char DiscHyphen, and then save back as FM. This appears to be successful, subject to my concerns above. Searching for the escape code \- (a backslash followed by a hyphen without the quotes) didn't work? That's the standard code for typing a discretionary hyphen in plain-text dialog boxes. See Appendix A of the FrameMaker User Guide for a full list of dialog box codes for special characters. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Conditional text not removing extraneous pages
Hi, I'm using conditional text to single source from one doc to another. Specifically, I'm referencing a file from one book into another and removing several sections by conditioning them out. This leaves several pages empty. In one circumstance, the book/PDF automatically removes the extra pages when I run the PDF. In another case, it doesn't. Why is one leaving extra pages and another isn't? And how do I fix this? Karyn ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional text not removing extraneous pages
karyn hunt wrote: I'm using conditional text to single source from one doc to another. Specifically, I'm referencing a file from one book into another and removing several sections by conditioning them out. This leaves several pages empty. In one circumstance, the book/PDF automatically removes the extra pages when I run the PDF. In another case, it doesn't. Why is one leaving extra pages and another isn't? And how do I fix this? I'm not sure what you're doing, but if empty pages aren't being deleted when you save or print, it's usually because you've told FM not to. :-) In the file with the persistent empty pages, select Format Page Layout Pagination. In the dialog box, Before Saving Printing is probably set to Don't Change Page Count. Pick something else (what depends on whether your doc is single or double sided and which side the next chapter should start on). The other possibility is that the empty pages are using custom master pages. FM will only delete empty pages based on the default Left and Right master pages. If it's neither of those, then I'm not sure what's going on. HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional text not removing extraneous pages
I got the answer: There was one page where a callout circle in a screenshot had extended beyond the anchored frame by a fraction of an inch. That was causing the page (and all previous pages) to show. Once we moved that callout circle back within its boundaries, everything went fine. Thanks to Rick Quatro for catching that little gotcha. Karyn Subject: RE: Conditional text not removing extraneous pages Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:19:26 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com karyn hunt wrote: I'm using conditional text to single source from one doc to another. Specifically, I'm referencing a file from one book into another and removing several sections by conditioning them out. This leaves several pages empty. In one circumstance, the book/PDF automatically removes the extra pages when I run the PDF. In another case, it doesn't. Why is one leaving extra pages and another isn't? And how do I fix this? I'm not sure what you're doing, but if empty pages aren't being deleted when you save or print, it's usually because you've told FM not to. :-) In the file with the persistent empty pages, select Format Page Layout Pagination. In the dialog box, Before Saving Printing is probably set to Don't Change Page Count. Pick some thing else (what depends on whether your doc is single or double sided and which side the next chapter should start on). The other possibility is that the empty pages are using custom master pages. FM will only delete empty pages based on the default Left and Right master pages. If it's neither of those, then I'm not sure what's going on. HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Yet unknown xref building blocks
.book Files inside a Book
Not in Frame, no. However, you can generate all the books as PDFs and then merge the PDFs (and include a cover/master page with bookmarks to the books), or create a meta-book of all the files, and create Section or Part pages for each of the component books. Art On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jennifer Randel wrote: > Hi everybody, > I have a feeling that the answer I'm going to get to the following question > is, "Are you crazy? You can't do that!" But, here goes anyway... > > I have documented programs on a menu. This menu is quite extensive and > contains multiple submenus, each with their own programs. Right now my book > contains a separate file for each program on the main menu. Each submenu > already has its own book. I'd like to be able to plug those .book files into > the main menu book and generate a PDF. I can plug the book files in, but they > are ignored by FM when I update the book. > > Is there is a way to accomplish this? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jennifer Randel > Data Processing Technical Writer > Kern High School District > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
FM<-->MIF round-tripping
Is converting between .fm and .mif file formats considered to be safe (ie. no data lost in translation)? My understanding is that they should be - and indeed, I did not notice any glaring differences when I open a .fm and it's corrosponding .mif in Framemaker. However, when I attempted the following experiment: 1) Open .fm file, save as .mif 2) Open .mif from 1), save as .fm (with different name) 3) Open .fm from 2), save as .mif. 4) Compare .mif files created in 1) and 3) using a text diff tool. I found that there were a number of differences, some of which are probably safe to ignore (like elements), but some are more concerning ( and elements missing in the latter file, elements having different values..) Goal: In the process of converting several documents from paper to framemaker documents, a large number of (rather randomly placed) "discretionary hyphen" characters were inserted (probably by the OCR software). I cannot seem to select these characters for use with the find/replace tool in Framemaker, so my idea was to convert to .mif, remove all instances of , and then save back as FM. This appears to be successful, subject to my concerns above. So, I'm wondering.. is it safe to round-trip between .fm and .mif files? And if not, is there an alternate way of accomplishing my task of removing these extra characters? Thanks, Adam Schweitzer Orenda Aerospace Corporation
FM<-->MIF round-tripping
Adam Schweitzer wrote (in part): > Goal: > In the process of converting several documents from paper to framemaker > documents, a large number of (rather randomly placed) "discretionary > hyphen" characters were inserted (probably by the OCR software). I > cannot seem to select these characters for use with the find/replace > tool in Framemaker, so my idea was to convert to .mif, remove all > instances of , and then save back as FM. This appears > to be successful, subject to my concerns above. Searching for the escape code "\-" (a backslash followed by a hyphen without the quotes) didn't work? That's the standard code for typing a discretionary hyphen in plain-text dialog boxes. See Appendix A of the FrameMaker User Guide for a full list of dialog box codes for special characters. -Fred Ridder
FM<-->MIF round-tripping
Thanks, Fred. This does work - I was unaware of this feature. Adam From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:50 PM To: Adam Schweitzer; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM<-->MIF round-tripping Adam Schweitzer wrote (in part): > Goal: > In the process of converting several documents from paper to framemaker > documents, a large number of (rather randomly placed) "discretionary > hyphen" characters were inserted (probably by the OCR software). I > cannot seem to select these characters for use with the find/replace > tool in Framemaker, so my idea was to convert to .mif, remove all > instances of , and then save back as FM. This appears > to be successful, subject to my concerns above. Searching for the escape code "\-" (a backslash followed by a hyphen without the quotes) didn't work? That's the standard code for typing a discretionary hyphen in plain-text dialog boxes. See Appendix A of the FrameMaker User Guide for a full list of dialog box codes for special characters. -Fred Ridder
FM<-->MIF round-tripping
Hi, Adam: Regarding the use of MIF and the spurious stuff in your MIF-to-FM conversions: * You can open a MIF file for editing in FM by pressing Shift while clicking Open, and choosing Treat Each Line As a Paragraph. * The proper way to save a MIF file for conversion back to FM is to save it as Text Only with a MIF extension. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Adam Schweitzer wrote: > Thanks, Fred. > This does work - I was unaware of this feature. > > Adam > > > > From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:50 PM > To: Adam Schweitzer; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: FM<-->MIF round-tripping > > > Adam Schweitzer wrote (in part): > >> Goal: >> In the process of converting several documents from paper to > framemaker >> documents, a large number of (rather randomly placed) "discretionary >> hyphen" characters were inserted (probably by the OCR software). I >> cannot seem to select these characters for use with the find/replace >> tool in Framemaker, so my idea was to convert to .mif, remove all >> instances of , and then save back as FM. This appears >> to be successful, subject to my concerns above. > > Searching for the escape code "\-" (a backslash followed by a hyphen > without the quotes) didn't work? That's the standard code for typing a > discretionary hyphen in plain-text dialog boxes. See Appendix A of the > FrameMaker User Guide for a full list of dialog box codes for special > characters. > > -Fred Ridder
Conditional text not removing extraneous pages
Hi, I'm using conditional text to single source from one doc to another. Specifically, I'm referencing a file from one book into another and removing several sections by conditioning them out. This leaves several pages empty. In one circumstance, the book/PDF automatically removes the extra pages when I run the PDF. In another case, it doesn't. Why is one leaving extra pages and another isn't? And how do I fix this? Karyn
Conditional text not removing extraneous pages
karyn hunt wrote: > I'm using conditional text to single source from one doc to another. > Specifically, I'm referencing a file from one book into another and > removing several sections by conditioning them out. This leaves several > pages empty. In one circumstance, the book/PDF automatically removes the > extra pages when I run the PDF. In another case, it doesn't. Why is one > leaving extra pages and another isn't? And how do I fix this? I'm not sure what you're doing, but if empty pages aren't being deleted when you save or print, it's usually because you've told FM not to. :-) In the file with the persistent empty pages, select Format > Page Layout > Pagination. In the dialog box, Before Saving & Printing is probably set to Don't Change Page Count. Pick something else (what depends on whether your doc is single or double sided and which side the next chapter should start on). The other possibility is that the empty pages are using custom master pages. FM will only delete empty pages based on the default Left and Right master pages. If it's neither of those, then I'm not sure what's going on. HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Conditional text not removing extraneous pages
I got the answer: There was one page where a callout circle in a screenshot had extended beyond the anchored frame by a fraction of an inch. That was causing the page (and all previous pages) to show. Once we moved that callout circle back within its boundaries, everything went fine. Thanks to Rick Quatro for catching that little gotcha. Karyn > Subject: RE: Conditional text not removing extraneous pages> Date: Fri, 29 > Aug 2008 16:19:26 -0600> From: richard.combs at Polycom.com> To: karyn_hunt > at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com> > karyn hunt wrote:> > > I'm > using conditional text to single source from one doc to another.> > > Specifically, I'm referencing a file from one book into another and> > > removing several sections by conditioning them out. This leaves> several> > > pages empty. In one circumstance, the book/PDF automatically removes> the> > > extra pages when I run the PDF. In another case, it doesn't. Why is> one> > > leaving extra pages and another isn't? And how do I fix this?> > I'm not sure > what you're doing, but if empty pages aren't being deleted> when you save or > print, it's usually because you've told FM not to. :-) > > In the file with > the persistent empty pages, select Format > Page Layout> > Pagination. In the > dialog box, Before Saving & Printing is probably> set to Don't Change Page > Count. Pick something else (what depends on> whether your doc is single or > double sided and which side the next> chapter should start on). > > The other > possibility is that the empty pages are using custom master> pages. FM will > only delete empty pages based on the default Left and> Right master pages.> > > If it's neither of those, then I'm not sure what's going on. > > HTH!> > Richard> > > Richard G. Combs> Senior Technical Writer> Polycom, Inc.> > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom> 303-223-5111> --> rgcombs AT > gmailDOTcom> 303-777-0436> --> > > > >
FM<-->MIF round-tripping
Hi Adam, Yes, converting back and forth between FM binary and MIF is considered safe. There are a couple of exceptions that I can think of: 1) If you save a FM document as MIF and then use an earlier version of FrameMaker to open the MIF document, you will lose "features" that are not supported in the earlier version of FrameMaker. 2) If you save a structured document as MIF and attempt to open it with unstructured FM, you would lose the original document's structure. However, you should get a warning about this when you open the document. As far as the task at hand, you could use FrameScript for this and not have to bother with the FM to MIF to FM step at all. Send me a sample document offlist and I will see what is involved with writing a script. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Is converting between .fm and .mif file formats considered to be safe > (ie. no data lost in translation)? My understanding is that they should > be - and indeed, I did not notice any glaring differences when I open a > .fm and it's corrosponding .mif in Framemaker. > > However, when I attempted the following experiment: > 1) Open .fm file, save as .mif > 2) Open .mif from 1), save as .fm (with different name) > 3) Open .fm from 2), save as .mif. > 4) Compare .mif files created in 1) and 3) using a text diff tool. > > I found that there were a number of differences, some of which are > probably safe to ignore (like elements), but some are > more concerning ( and elements missing in the > latter file, elements having different values..) > > Goal: > In the process of converting several documents from paper to framemaker > documents, a large number of (rather randomly placed) "discretionary > hyphen" characters were inserted (probably by the OCR software). I > cannot seem to select these characters for use with the find/replace > tool in Framemaker, so my idea was to convert to .mif, remove all > instances of , and then save back as FM. This appears > to be successful, subject to my concerns above. > > > So, I'm wondering.. is it safe to round-trip between .fm and .mif files? > And if not, is there an alternate way of accomplishing my task of > removing these extra characters? > > Thanks, > Adam Schweitzer > Orenda Aerospace Corporation > ___
