ANN: SF Sept. Courses -- FM-RoboHelp added; dates changed

[Shlomo Perets]

* NEW: FrameMaker+RoboHelp Integration (TCS2) -- Sept. 21

* FrameMaker-to-Acrobat Advanced Techniques (Essentials) -- Sept. 22
(no change)

* Advanced FrameMaker for Skilled Users -- Sept. 23
(date changed)


For additional details and registration forms, please visit 
http://www.microtype.com/TrainingOnsite.html

[Note: no change in Anaheim CA or NYC courses, beginning October]


Shlomo Perets

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Solved: MIF for RoboHelp on the Fritz

[Pinkham, Jim]

Mystery solved: The parent network folder for the FM files for this
particular job had a trademark symbol in the filename. As soon as I
removed the symbol from the folder name, the Robo MIF operation worked
without a hitch.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:58 AM
To: 'Jeremy H. Griffith'
Subject: RE: MIF for RoboHelp on the Fritz

Thank you for the tips, Jeremy. I will experiment further.

Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:29 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Pinkham, Jim
Subject: Re: MIF for RoboHelp on the Fritz

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:12 -0500, Pinkham, Jim 
jim.pink...@voith.com wrote:

*  I can still Save As MIF from within Frame, and I'm not seeing
any apparent hiccups in Wash via MIF.
*  When I also try Save Using Mif2Go, I get an error message about
not being able to find the mif2rtf.ini file.

That will happen if you never used Setup... for the Mif2Go project.  If
you are really using RH, you probably didn't.  ;-)

Wash via MIF doesn't need a project setup, so that always works.

It's unlikely that SetPrint is involved.  If the Robo MIF process writes
to a different directory, see if you can SaveAs MIF to the same
directory.  Sounds like a permission problem.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.com  http://www.omsys.com/
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Graphical format for conversion to Eclipse Help

[mathieu jacquet]

Dear Framers,

is there a specific graphical format to respect when developing a non 
structured doc in FrameMaker (7.2 on XP) with a view to converting it later to 
Eclipse Help (or any other HTML help by the way). I am saving my screenshots as 
.png. Will it be ok for the conversion?

Thank you all,

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Re: Graphical format for conversion to Eclipse Help

[Art Campbell]

Because the pages themselves are HTML, .PNG should be fine (it is,
after all, a Portable Network Graphic). Most of the IBM help pages use
.GIFs, and .PNG is a new enhanced version of that format.

Art

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On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:37 AM, mathieu jacquetbobi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Dear Framers,

 is there a specific graphical format to respect when developing a non 
 structured doc in FrameMaker (7.2 on XP) with a view to converting it later 
 to Eclipse Help (or any other HTML help by the way). I am saving my 
 screenshots as .png. Will it be ok for the conversion?

 Thank you all,

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RE: Graphical format for conversion to Eclipse Help

[Shuttleworth, Roger]

Hi Mathieu

I have used PNG for graphics in Eclipse Help and other forms of Help with no 
problems.

Roger Shuttleworth
London, Canada

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Subject: Graphical format for conversion to Eclipse Help


Dear Framers,

is there a specific graphical format to respect when developing a non 
structured doc in FrameMaker (7.2 on XP) with a view to converting it later to
Eclipse Help (or any other HTML help by the way). I am saving my screenshots as 
.png. Will it be ok for the conversion?

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Way to save Frame9 files in Frame7 format?

[Fausset, Marilyn]

I edit a huge spec with multiple authors (mostly engineers) at multiple
companies (spec is vendor-neutral). Currently there are well are over
two hundred Frame files (plus other file types) in the several Frame
books that make up the spec-and that's just the current version. I work
on multiple versions as we develop it, test it, and submit it for ANSI
and ISO acceptance. Some companies and individuals are having to convert
to FrameMaker 9, but as a group we are still using Frame 7.2

QU: Is there a plug-in (or other approach) for saving FrameMaker 9 files
as FrameMaker 7 files? I don't have Frame 9 yet but understand that it
doesn't give this option, although Frame 8 did.

Currently we are using FrameMaker 7.2 for all spec work (without SP-3 so
we can include Visio diagrams by reference), and we don't want to change
yet (various reasons).  If this has already been discussed, I must have
missed it.

Thanks.

Marilyn Fausset
Technical Writer
Storage Networking Industry Association
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Phone: 303.543.8918
Mobile: 207.467.1412
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Re: Way to save Frame9 files in Frame7 format?

[Writer]

I'm pretty sure you can save files as MIF in FM9 and open them up in FM7.

Nadine

Fausset, Marilyn wrote:
 I edit a huge spec with multiple authors (mostly engineers) at multiple
 companies (spec is vendor-neutral). Currently there are well are over
 two hundred Frame files (plus other file types) in the several Frame
 books that make up the spec-and that's just the current version. I work
 on multiple versions as we develop it, test it, and submit it for ANSI
 and ISO acceptance. Some companies and individuals are having to convert
 to FrameMaker 9, but as a group we are still using Frame 7.2

 QU: Is there a plug-in (or other approach) for saving FrameMaker 9 files
 as FrameMaker 7 files? I don't have Frame 9 yet but understand that it
 doesn't give this option, although Frame 8 did.

 Currently we are using FrameMaker 7.2 for all spec work (without SP-3 so
 we can include Visio diagrams by reference), and we don't want to change
 yet (various reasons).  If this has already been discussed, I must have
 missed it.

 Thanks.

 Marilyn Fausset
 Technical Writer
 Storage Networking Industry Association
 __
 SNIA
 Phone: 303.543.8918
 Mobile: 207.467.1412
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RE: Way to save Frame9 files in Frame7 format?

[Combs, Richard]

Fausset, Marilyn wrote: 
 
 QU: Is there a plug-in (or other approach) for saving FrameMaker 9
files
 as FrameMaker 7 files? I don't have Frame 9 yet but understand that it
 doesn't give this option, although Frame 8 did.

Actually, it does. You can save FM9 files as FM7.x-compatible files in
either MIF or binary FM format. Well, let me hedge a bit: I _know_ you
can save as FM7.x (non-Unicode) MIF. I'm not as certain about binary FM
files, and I don't have FM9 right now. But the MIF will get you there. 

IIRC, there have been a few issues going from non-Unicode to Unicode
and/or back (as you might expect), but nothing big. Your contributors
with FM9 should be able to send you files you can open with FM7.x and
use with little or no trouble. 

Richard


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Re: Way to save Frame9 files in Frame7 format?

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:17:40 -0600, Fausset, Marilyn 
marilyn.faus...@snia.org wrote:

QU: Is there a plug-in (or other approach) for saving FrameMaker 9 files
as FrameMaker 7 files? I don't have Frame 9 yet but understand that it
doesn't give this option, although Frame 8 did.

Currently we are using FrameMaker 7.2 for all spec work (without SP-3 so
we can include Visio diagrams by reference), and we don't want to change
yet (various reasons).  If this has already been discussed, I must have
missed it.

FM9 does let you save as FM 7 MIF.  I haven't tested this in detail,
though.  FM8 had the same ability, but had a problem with number
formats where the bullet char was still in Unicode, which won't work 
in 7.  I don't know if that was fixed in 9.  Caveat emptor!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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ANN: SF Sept. Courses -- FM-RoboHelp added; dates changed

[Shlomo Perets]

* NEW: FrameMaker+RoboHelp Integration (TCS2) -- Sept. 21

* FrameMaker-to-Acrobat Advanced Techniques (Essentials) -- Sept. 22
(no change)

* Advanced FrameMaker for Skilled Users -- Sept. 23
(date changed)


For additional details and registration forms, please visit 
http://www.microtype.com/TrainingOnsite.html

[Note: no change in Anaheim CA or NYC courses, beginning October]


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Solved: MIF for RoboHelp on the Fritz

[Pinkham, Jim]

Mystery solved: The parent network folder for the FM files for this
particular job had a trademark symbol in the filename. As soon as I
removed the symbol from the folder name, the Robo MIF operation worked
without a hitch.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:58 AM
To: 'Jeremy H. Griffith'
Subject: RE: MIF for RoboHelp on the Fritz

Thank you for the tips, Jeremy. I will experiment further.

Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:29 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Pinkham, Jim
Subject: Re: MIF for RoboHelp on the Fritz

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:12 -0500, "Pinkham, Jim" 
 wrote:

>*  I can still Save As MIF from within Frame, and I'm not seeing
>any apparent hiccups in Wash via MIF.
>*  When I also try Save Using Mif2Go, I get an error message about
>not being able to find the mif2rtf.ini file.

That will happen if you never used Setup... for the Mif2Go project.  If
you are really using RH, you probably didn't.  ;-)

Wash via MIF doesn't need a project setup, so that always works.

It's unlikely that SetPrint is involved.  If the Robo MIF process writes
to a different directory, see if you can SaveAs MIF to the same
directory.  Sounds like a permission problem.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Graphical format for conversion to Eclipse Help

[mathieu jacquet]

Dear Framers,

is there a specific graphical format to respect when developing a non 
structured doc in FrameMaker (7.2 on XP) with a view to converting it later to 
Eclipse Help (or any other HTML help by the way). I am saving my screenshots as 
.png. Will it be ok for the conversion?

Thank you all,

Mathieu.

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Graphical format for conversion to Eclipse Help

[Art Campbell]

Because the pages themselves are HTML, .PNG should be fine (it is,
after all, a Portable Network Graphic). Most of the IBM help pages use
.GIFs, and .PNG is a new enhanced version of that format.

Art

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:37 AM, mathieu jacquet wrote:
>
> Dear Framers,
>
> is there a specific graphical format to respect when developing a non 
> structured doc in FrameMaker (7.2 on XP) with a view to converting it later 
> to Eclipse Help (or any other HTML help by the way). I am saving my 
> screenshots as .png. Will it be ok for the conversion?
>
> Thank you all,
>
> Mathieu.
>
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Graphical format for conversion to Eclipse Help

[Shuttleworth, Roger]

Hi Mathieu

I have used PNG for graphics in Eclipse Help and other forms of Help with no 
problems.

Roger Shuttleworth
London, Canada

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Sent: July 31, 2009 10:38 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Graphical format for conversion to Eclipse Help


Dear Framers,

is there a specific graphical format to respect when developing a non 
structured doc in FrameMaker (7.2 on XP) with a view to converting it later to
Eclipse Help (or any other HTML help by the way). I am saving my screenshots as 
.png. Will it be ok for the conversion?

Thank you all,

Mathieu.

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Way to save Frame9 files in Frame7 format?

[Fausset, Marilyn]

I edit a huge spec with multiple authors (mostly engineers) at multiple
companies (spec is vendor-neutral). Currently there are well are over
two hundred Frame files (plus other file types) in the several Frame
books that make up the spec-and that's just the current version. I work
on multiple versions as we develop it, test it, and submit it for ANSI
and ISO acceptance. Some companies and individuals are having to convert
to FrameMaker 9, but as a group we are still using Frame 7.2

QU: Is there a plug-in (or other approach) for saving FrameMaker 9 files
as FrameMaker 7 files? I don't have Frame 9 yet but understand that it
doesn't give this option, although Frame 8 did.

Currently we are using FrameMaker 7.2 for all spec work (without SP-3 so
we can include Visio diagrams by reference), and we don't want to change
yet (various reasons).  If this has already been discussed, I must have
missed it.

Thanks.

Marilyn Fausset
Technical Writer
Storage Networking Industry Association
__
SNIA
Phone: 303.543.8918
Mobile: 207.467.1412
marilyn.fausset at snia.org
www.snia.org  

Way to save Frame9 files in Frame7 format?

[Writer]

I'm pretty sure you can save files as MIF in FM9 and open them up in FM7.

Nadine

Fausset, Marilyn wrote:
> I edit a huge spec with multiple authors (mostly engineers) at multiple
> companies (spec is vendor-neutral). Currently there are well are over
> two hundred Frame files (plus other file types) in the several Frame
> books that make up the spec-and that's just the current version. I work
> on multiple versions as we develop it, test it, and submit it for ANSI
> and ISO acceptance. Some companies and individuals are having to convert
> to FrameMaker 9, but as a group we are still using Frame 7.2
>
> QU: Is there a plug-in (or other approach) for saving FrameMaker 9 files
> as FrameMaker 7 files? I don't have Frame 9 yet but understand that it
> doesn't give this option, although Frame 8 did.
>
> Currently we are using FrameMaker 7.2 for all spec work (without SP-3 so
> we can include Visio diagrams by reference), and we don't want to change
> yet (various reasons).  If this has already been discussed, I must have
> missed it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Marilyn Fausset
> Technical Writer
> Storage Networking Industry Association
> __
> SNIA
> Phone: 303.543.8918
> Mobile: 207.467.1412
> marilyn.fausset at snia.org
> www.snia.org  
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Way to save Frame9 files in Frame7 format?

[Combs, Richard]

Fausset, Marilyn wrote: 

> QU: Is there a plug-in (or other approach) for saving FrameMaker 9
files
> as FrameMaker 7 files? I don't have Frame 9 yet but understand that it
> doesn't give this option, although Frame 8 did.

Actually, it does. You can save FM9 files as FM7.x-compatible files in
either MIF or binary FM format. Well, let me hedge a bit: I _know_ you
can save as FM7.x (non-Unicode) MIF. I'm not as certain about binary FM
files, and I don't have FM9 right now. But the MIF will get you there. 

IIRC, there have been a few issues going from non-Unicode to Unicode
and/or back (as you might expect), but nothing big. Your contributors
with FM9 should be able to send you files you can open with FM7.x and
use with little or no trouble. 

Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
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Way to save Frame9 files in Frame7 format?

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:17:40 -0600, "Fausset, Marilyn" 
 wrote:

>QU: Is there a plug-in (or other approach) for saving FrameMaker 9 files
>as FrameMaker 7 files? I don't have Frame 9 yet but understand that it
>doesn't give this option, although Frame 8 did.
>
>Currently we are using FrameMaker 7.2 for all spec work (without SP-3 so
>we can include Visio diagrams by reference), and we don't want to change
>yet (various reasons).  If this has already been discussed, I must have
>missed it.

FM9 does let you save as FM 7 MIF.  I haven't tested this in detail,
though.  FM8 had the same ability, but had a problem with number
formats where the bullet char was still in Unicode, which won't work 
in 7.  I don't know if that was fixed in 9.  Caveat emptor!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/