Re: Plug for Imposition

2010-07-20 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Will Quite Imposing is a plug-in for Acrobat: http://www.quite.com/products.htm Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

RE: Plug for Imposition

2010-07-20 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Create a PDF and then use Quite Imposing. /Jacob -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] På vegne af Whites Sendt: 20. juli 2010 06:09 Til: Frame Users Emne: Plug for Imposition Howdy Framers - Anyone know of a

Flakey cross references

2010-07-20 Thread Layton, Debbie
I'm using FrameMaker 7.0 on XP Professional. I've got a book with about 11 chapters in it. I continue to get unresolved cross reference messages. I have gone in and re-done all of them, since the original files were copied from another manual, but when I open the documents again, I get the

Preventing a text frame from containing text from next page

2010-07-20 Thread Dick Spierings
Hi Verner, To make sure you always start at the top of a new page (your rear page) you can use a first paragraph style (preceding your markers) that always starts on top of a page. This forces the paragraph (and all subsequent paragraphs) to move to the rear page (in your case). In the

Re: Flakey cross references

2010-07-20 Thread Writer
Is there any hidden conditionalized text? That could cause the message. Did you do a search on unresolved cross-ref? Nadine On 19/07/2010 7:47 PM, Layton, Debbie wrote: I'm using FrameMaker 7.0 on XP Professional. I've got a book with about 11 chapters in it. I continue to get unresolved

RE: Consolidated index - more

2010-07-20 Thread Milton, Cynthia
Classification: SERCO-PUBLIC OK, so, I played around a bit more. I hope the following makes sense to you. To recap: the book file from which I'm generating the index contains around 200 files and a book file, thus: IOM (Index of Markers) Files . . . Book This book file contains ordinary fm

Re: Plug for Imposition

2010-07-20 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 20/07/2010 12:09 AM, Whites wrote: Howdy Framers - Anyone know of a plugin that does imposition on Frame files?? TIA Will White It's easier to do imposition in the PDF stream rather than in Frame. Quite Imposing is often recommended, but is fairly pricey. I use Clickbook from Blue

Re: Plug for Imposition

2010-07-20 Thread Mike Wickham
If your client just wants to self-publish a booklet-- say by folding letter size pages into 5.5 x 8.5 pages-- many (most?) desktop print drivers have booklet printing options that will take care of it for them. They'll have to fold and staple the sheets on their own, though. You can find saddle

Embedding sound files in Frame8 docs

2010-07-20 Thread Anthony Davey
Hi everybody, I have a Frame document which will eventually be saved as a PDF using Acrobat 9 Pro. What I want to achieve is embedded sound files (I believe acrobat will now only handle mp3, so I have those) with an icon representation that, when clicked, will play the sound file. I have

Re: Flakey cross references

2010-07-20 Thread Susan McDonald
If you're only seeing the unresolved cross-reference messages when you open the file (in the book, I presume), it's probably because the files that the cross-references point to haven't opened yet. If most cross-references point to one or two files, open those first, then open all the other

MIL-STD-40051

2010-07-20 Thread Arthur Kreitman
I am looking for a stylesheet to format a technical manual to the MIL-STD-40051 format. I have downloaded the dtd for this standard, it contains all of the tags, but no formatting. Has anyone used Framemaker to create a Technical Manual to this standard? Art Kreitman Datalis Solutions

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Clara Hall
Hello all, I need/would like to give the argument that it is better to say Enter the information in the text field vs. type the information in the text field. this is for an online training course. As far as I am concerned, type is archaic and no longer used when talking about online

Re: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Linda Rose
When you say Enter the info ... it implies that you are pressing the Enter key after you type the information. ~~ Linda Rose CTD Online Development QAD, Inc On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Clara Hall ch...@atgshades.com wrote: Hello all, I need/would like to give the

RE: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Spectrum Writing
Use enter if a user must put something in a field in a window. Do not use type or type in for this. Type is typically reserved for command line instructions. HTH, TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com i...@spectrumwritingllc.com -Original

Re: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread David Spreadbury
Clara, The Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications, Version 3.0 states:   type vs. enter Use type, not type in or enter, if information the user types appears on the screen. An exception to this rule is that you can tell users to enter a file name, for example, in a combo box when

RE: type vs. enter

2010-07-20 Thread Lea Rush
The MMSTP (Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications) advises using type rather than enter for this action. Here's the full quote: Type or select: Use to refer to an item (as in a combo box) that the user can either type or select in the accompanying text box. You can use 'enter'

Re: Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-20 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi all, Sorry I couldn't get back to this sooner. I read the responses. Since there is a saying in my local culture that says *They* are allowed, and *you* are not, which I interpret as meaning that the individual has to abide by the opinion of the majority (and even maybe also realign his

Re: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread John Posada
Enter works for me...it covers people who are typing it, it also covers people who may be writing it with a pen in things such as iPad. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Clara Hall ch...@atgshades.com wrote: Hello all, I need/would like to give the argument that it is better to say Enter the

Re: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Jerilynne Knight
When I did some informal (very informal) questioning for a project, the users found it confusing to Enter text and Press Enter. In my opinion (which will also show how old I am), I still feel you type information if you're actually using the keyboard. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Clara Hall

RE: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Sharon Burton
Will your audience be able to make that leap? This one is all about audience. If they are fairly sophisticated, then enter. If not, then type. sharon Sharon Burton Content Consultant www.anthrobytes.com 951-369-8590 IM: sharonvbur...@yahoo.com Twitter: sharonburton

Re: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Writer
Personally, I don't care what term is used, so long as it's used consistently. FWIW, this is what MS MoS 3ed says about the matter: type vs. enter Use type, not type in or enter, if information that the user types appears on the screen. An exception to this rule is that you can tell users to

RE: Embedding sound files in Frame8 docs

2010-07-20 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Anthony, You can do this with pdfmark statements embedded in your FrameMaker documents. The easiest way to automate this process is with TimeSavers and the optional Multimedia Assistant. See http://www.microtype.com for details. This is excellent software and will save you a ton of time if you

Too much right-hand padding of text inside table cells

2010-07-20 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi all, I am having a problem with right-hand padding of text inside table cells. I am editing an API reference guide, and some of the software object names are 5 inches long (measured in Arial 8 pt at 100% zoom on a 21 1600x1200 monitor). The problem is that I am consistently getting an

Re: Embedding sound files in Frame8 docs

2010-07-20 Thread Writer
You can import it as an OLE Object in FM8 as a wav file. I don't know how to get it to output to PDF. From the FM online help: Embedding with OLE You can use OLE to embed text or graphics in a FrameMaker document. Embedded material retains its association with the application that created it

Re: Too much right-hand padding of text inside table cells

2010-07-20 Thread Avraham Makeler
Forgot to specify: I am using FrameMaker 7.2. Thanks, - avi On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Avraham Makeler amake...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I am having a problem with right-hand padding of text inside table cells. I am editing an API reference guide, and some of the software object

RE: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Owen, Clint
In Simplified Technical English, which has a strictly limited vocabulary and is supposed to make documents easier to understand for international readers, neither of these terms is allowed in this context. I spent a few minutes and can't think of a STE legal way to write the requested

Re: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Makes good sense. If it is an instruction Type [the required data] makes sense and is reasonably unambiguous. Whereas Enter is used differently depending on context, ranging from going into an enclosed space to form filling and so there may be some moments of confusion as the reader

RE: Too much right-hand padding of text inside table cells

2010-07-20 Thread Combs, Richard
Avraham Makeler wrote: I am having a problem with right-hand padding of text inside table cells. I am editing an API reference guide, and some of the software object names are 5 inches long (measured in Arial 8 pt at 100% zoom on a 21 1600x1200 monitor). The problem is that I am

RE: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Flato, Gillian
Clint, That can't be right. Telling Users to enter or type text is probably the command we use most frequently. Simplified English must have a way for instructing Users how to do it. Otherwise, simplified English is completely useless. Thank you,   Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software)

RE: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Combs, Richard
Owen, Clint wrote: In Simplified Technical English, which has a strictly limited vocabulary and is supposed to make documents easier to understand for international readers, neither of these terms is allowed in this context. I spent a few minutes and can't think of a STE legal way to write

RE: type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Alison Craig
I just did a quick Internet search on Simplified Technical English and found this example at http://www.simplifiedenglish.net/controlled-language-global-english (at the bottom of the web page under Industry Examples, select Software). Step 2 (below) specifically says ...enter the IP address

RE: type vs enter and STE

2010-07-20 Thread Owen, Clint
Gillian and Richard, You're preaching to the choir, but this type of situation comes up a lot: if you try to strictly follow the rules, you discover that there is no easy way to express a simple concept. Generally, each allowed word has only one assigned meaning, and each concept has only one

Re: Too much right-hand padding of text inside table cells

2010-07-20 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi Richard, You got it all spot on! Congrats! I now set DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On, and I get the real situation. (Just one little thing: when I restarted FM after changing the above cfg param value, FM notified me of an internal error...but that doesn't seem to be bothering it from

Plug for Imposition

2010-07-20 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Hi Will, Why would you want to? Cheers Alan On 20/07/2010, at 4:09 PM, Whites wrote: > Howdy Framers - > > Anyone know of a plugin that does imposition on Frame files?? > > TIA > > Will White > > -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz

Plug for Imposition

2010-07-20 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Hi Will, On 20/07/2010, at 4:29 PM, Whites wrote: > Excellent question. > > If it were up to me, I would just generate a PDF and do the > imposition manually. > I'm asking on behalf of someone who is not familiar with the concept > at all and wants to self-publish a booklet. > > Maybe what

Plug for Imposition

2010-07-20 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Will Quite Imposing is a plug-in for Acrobat: http://www.quite.com/products.htm Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu

Plug for Imposition

2010-07-20 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Create a PDF and then use Quite Imposing. /Jacob -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] P? vegne af Whites Sendt: 20. juli 2010 06:09 Til: Frame Users Emne: Plug for Imposition Howdy Framers - Anyone know of

Preventing a text frame from containing text from next page

2010-07-20 Thread Dick Spierings
Hi Verner, To make sure you always start at the top of a new page (your rear page) you can use a first paragraph style (preceding your markers) that always starts on top of a page. This forces the paragraph (and all subsequent paragraphs) to move to the rear page (in your case). In the

Flakey cross references

2010-07-20 Thread Writer
Is there any hidden conditionalized text? That could cause the message. Did you do a search on unresolved cross-ref? Nadine On 19/07/2010 7:47 PM, Layton, Debbie wrote: > I'm using FrameMaker 7.0 on XP Professional. I've got a book with about > 11 chapters in it. > > > > I continue to get

Consolidated index - more

2010-07-20 Thread Milton, Cynthia
Classification: SERCO-PUBLIC OK, so, I played around a bit more. I hope the following makes sense to you. To recap: the book file from which I'm generating the index contains around 200 files and a book file, thus: IOM (Index of Markers) Files . . . Book This book file contains ordinary fm

Plug for Imposition

2010-07-20 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 20/07/2010 12:09 AM, Whites wrote: > Howdy Framers - > > Anyone know of a plugin that does imposition on Frame files?? > > TIA > > Will White It's easier to do imposition in the PDF stream rather than in Frame. Quite Imposing is often recommended, but is fairly pricey. I use Clickbook from

Plug for Imposition

2010-07-20 Thread Mike Wickham
If your client just wants to self-publish a booklet-- say by folding letter size pages into 5.5" x 8.5" pages-- many (most?) desktop print drivers have "booklet printing" options that will take care of it for them. They'll have to fold and staple the sheets on their own, though. You can find

Embedding sound files in Frame8 docs

2010-07-20 Thread Anthony Davey
Hi everybody, I have a Frame document which will eventually be saved as a PDF using Acrobat 9 Pro. What I want to achieve is embedded sound files (I believe acrobat will now only handle mp3, so I have those) with an icon representation that, when clicked, will play the sound file. I have

Flakey cross references

2010-07-20 Thread Susan McDonald
If you're only seeing the unresolved cross-reference messages when you open the file (in the book, I presume), it's probably because the files that the cross-references point to haven't opened yet. If most cross-references point to one or two files, open those first, then open all the other

MIL-STD-40051

2010-07-20 Thread Arthur Kreitman
I am looking for a stylesheet to format a technical manual to the MIL-STD-40051 format. I have downloaded the dtd for this standard, it contains all of the tags, but no formatting. Has anyone used Framemaker to create a Technical Manual to this standard? Art Kreitman Datalis Solutions

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Clara Hall
Hello all, I need/would like to give the argument that it is better to say "Enter the information in the text field" vs. "type the information in the text field". this is for an online training course. As far as I am concerned, type is archaic and no longer used when talking about online

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Linda Rose
When you say Enter the info ... it implies that you are pressing the Enter key after you type the information. ~~ Linda Rose CTD Online Development QAD, Inc On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Clara Hall wrote: > Hello all, > > I need/would like to give the argument that it is

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Spectrum Writing
Use "enter" if a user must put something in a field in a window. Do not use type or type in for this. Type is typically reserved for command line instructions. HTH, TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com info at spectrumwritingllc.com

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread David Spreadbury
Clara, The Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications, Version 3.0 states: ? type vs. enter Use type, not type in or enter, if information the user types appears on the screen. An exception to this rule is that you can tell users to "enter" a file name, for example, in a combo box when

type vs. enter

2010-07-20 Thread Lea Rush
The MMSTP (Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications) advises using "type" rather than "enter" for this action. Here's the full quote: Type or select: Use to refer to an item (as in a combo box) that the user can either type or select in the accompanying text box. You can use 'enter'

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread John Posada
Enter works for me...it covers people who are typing it, it also covers people who may be writing it with a pen in things such as iPad. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Clara Hall wrote: > Hello all, > > I need/would like to give the argument that it is better to say "Enter the > information in

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Jerilynne Knight
When I did some informal (very informal) questioning for a project, the users found it confusing to "Enter text" and "Press Enter". In my opinion (which will also show how old I am), I still feel you "type" information if you're actually using the keyboard. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Clara

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Sharon Burton
Will your audience be able to make that leap? This one is all about audience. If they are fairly sophisticated, then enter. If not, then type. sharon Sharon Burton Content Consultant www.anthrobytes.com 951-369-8590 IM: sharonvburton at yahoo.com Twitter: sharonburton

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Writer
Personally, I don't care what term is used, so long as it's used consistently. FWIW, this is what MS MoS 3ed says about the matter: type vs. enter Use type, not type in or enter, if information that the user types appears on the screen. An exception to this rule is that you can tell users to

Embedding sound files in Frame8 docs

2010-07-20 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Anthony, You can do this with pdfmark statements embedded in your FrameMaker documents. The easiest way to automate this process is with TimeSavers and the optional Multimedia Assistant. See http://www.microtype.com for details. This is excellent software and will save you a ton of time if you

Embedding sound files in Frame8 docs

2010-07-20 Thread Writer
You can import it as an OLE Object in FM8 as a wav file. I don't know how to get it to output to PDF.

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Owen, Clint
In Simplified Technical English, which has a strictly limited vocabulary and is supposed to make documents easier to understand for international readers, neither of these terms is allowed in this context. I spent a few minutes and can't think of a "STE legal" way to write the requested

Too much right-hand padding of text inside table cells

2010-07-20 Thread Combs, Richard
Avraham Makeler wrote: > I am having a problem with right-hand padding of text inside table cells. > > I am editing an API reference guide, and some of the software object names > are 5 inches long (measured in Arial 8 pt at 100% zoom on a 21" 1600x1200 > monitor). > > The problem is that I am

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Flato, Gillian
Clint, That can't be right. Telling Users to enter or type text is probably the command we use most frequently. Simplified English must have a way for instructing Users how to do it. Otherwise, simplified English is completely useless. Thank you, ? Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software)

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Combs, Richard
Owen, Clint wrote: > In Simplified Technical English, which has a strictly limited vocabulary > and is supposed to make documents easier to understand for international > readers, neither of these terms is allowed in this context. I spent a > few minutes and can't think of a "STE legal" way to

type vs enter

2010-07-20 Thread Alison Craig
I just did a quick Internet search on Simplified Technical English and found this example at http://www.simplifiedenglish.net/controlled-language-global-english (at the bottom of the web page under Industry Examples, select Software). Step 2 (below) specifically says "...enter the IP address

type vs enter and STE

2010-07-20 Thread Owen, Clint
Gillian and Richard, You're preaching to the choir, but this type of situation comes up a lot: if you try to strictly follow the rules, you discover that there is no easy way to express a simple concept. Generally, each allowed word has only one assigned meaning, and each concept has only one