Re: Ventura encoded text files

[Yves Barbion]

Hi David

Ah, good old Ventura Publisher! Those were the days. We have used Maker
Markup Language (MML) for this type of conversion jobs. We just opened the
VP text files in Notepad++ or  EditPad Lite and replaced the VP markup (@REF
=) with maker markup (ref). Then, we simply imported the MML files into
our FrameMaker templates.

You can find a MML reference guide here:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/mml_reference.pdf

Cheers



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Helping FM find graphics files

[Menahem Rosen]

Framers,

I received translated .fm files (book file + several chapters) from my 
translation company. When I plunk them into my FM folder and try opening them, 
FM flags every referenced graphic file as missing, because the path got messed 
up at the translation company. (It's almost but not just right-my graphics 
folder is subordinate to the FM folder, while the translation company put the 
graphics folder on the same level as the FM folder.) Is there an easy way to 
re-map the references throughout the files. I just can't do each one manually!

TIA


Menahem Rosen

Objet Ltd.





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RE: Helping FM find graphics files

[Peter Hirons]

Wouldn't it be easier to move the graphics folder?  In any case, all you
need to do is find the first graphic and make sure use new path for all
graphics (may not be exact wording) is selected.

 

Peter

 

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Subject: Helping FM find graphics files

 

Framers,

 

I received translated .fm files (book file + several chapters) from my
translation company. When I plunk them into my FM folder and try opening
them, FM flags every referenced graphic file as missing, because the
path got messed up at the translation company. (It's almost but not
just right-my graphics folder is subordinate to the FM folder, while
the translation company put the graphics folder on the same level as the
FM folder.) Is there an easy way to re-map the references throughout the
files. I just can't do each one manually!

 

TIA

 

Menahem Rosen

Objet Ltd.

 





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Re: Helping FM find graphics files

[David Spreadbury]

At the book level, highlight all of the chapter files and press Enter (opens 
all files). Frame will ask to reconcile the first missing graphic and 
remember this as it opens the other chapters. At least this has worked for me 
with Frame 7.2, as long as all of the graphics are in the same folder.

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From: Menahem Rosen menahem.ro...@objet.com
Subject: Helping FM find graphics files
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 11:26 AM




 
 

 











Framers, 

   

I received translated .fm files (book file + several
chapters) from my translation company. When I plunk them into my FM folder and
try opening them, FM flags every referenced graphic file as “missing,
because the path got messed up at the translation company. (It’s “almost”
but not “just” right—my graphics folder is subordinate to the
FM folder, while the translation company put the graphics folder on the same
level as the FM folder.) Is there an easy way to re-map the references
throughout the files. I just can’t do each one manually! 

   

TIA 

   




Menahem
 Rosen 

Objet Ltd. 



   






 
 

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Re: Helping FM find graphics files

[Lise Bible]

Stab in the dark, as I'm not a Frame expert, but when I've encountered
this, when Frame tells me the graphic is missing and opens a dialog box
asking for me to indicate where the graphic is, if I find the first one, if
the rest of them are in the same folder, it'll re-link the rest of them.
I'm on Frame 8, don't know if it matters...

Thanks,
Lise

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 **

 Framers,

 ** **

 I received translated .fm files (book file + several chapters) from my
 translation company. When I plunk them into my FM folder and try opening
 them, FM flags every referenced graphic file as “missing, because the path
 got messed up at the translation company. (It’s “almost” but not “just”
 right—my graphics folder is subordinate to the FM folder, while the
 translation company put the graphics folder on the same level as the FM
 folder.) Is there an easy way to re-map the references throughout the
 files. I just can’t do each one manually!

 ** **

 TIA

 ** **

 **Menahem Rosen**

 Objet Ltd.

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Re: Disappearing Palettes

[Karen Robbins]

Thanks, Stuart, now I remember Workspaces--and even a fairly recent 
discussion about the .fws and .cfws files--but couldn't put them 
together. I will set this up and hope I don't have to use it often. 
:-)


Typically, running Windows under Parallels is no different, it's just 
more challenging for us Mac folks to figure out where stuff is (and 
why it doesn't work like a Mac).


--Karen

At 12:00 PM -0500 4/24/12, Stuart Rogers wrote:


Karen,

FM keeps track of your open palettes etc. in Workspace files with the
extension .fws or .cfws.  It sounds like something got fried in
whichever .cfws file you last used.

The best way to restore your palettes is to set up the interface the way
you like it and then save it as a custom workspace.  Then when things go
haywire (or you've just managed to move everything around for various
reasons), you can choose Reset from the workspace menu and everything
will be restored.  (Assuming the .cfws file is OK.)

(The .fws and .cfws files are in the WorkSpaces folder within fminit;
you may find more than one instance of the fminit folder; I'm not sure
how Parallels, Macs, etc. work this out.)

HTH,

--
Stuart Rogers



On 23/04/2012 3:04 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:
  Hello Framers,


 I use Frame 9 (9.0p255) in Windows 7 via Parallels 6 on a Mac. I keep
 many palettes on-screen in one or two floating blocks.

 This morning I opened an existing Frame document and all palettes were
 missing. Multiple attempts at opening a palette with a menu item (such
 as FormatCharacterDesigner) or key combo (such as CTRL+D) also failed.

 

 After several tries and restarts (both Windows and Frame), clicking
 through the menus did begin to reveal some of the palettes. I am not

  sure if all are directly accessible from menus.


 What might cause this to happen? Is the best way (only way?) to restore
 disappearing palettes simply to call all of them from menus again?

 thanks,

  Karen

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Re: Helping FM find graphics files

[Bill Swallow]

Lise's advice should work. Peter's advice to move the graphics folder
to where FM's looking for it also should work.

Of note, your LSP should not be altering your project like this in any
way. Make sure they know not to do this again going forward, as it
adds unnecessary additional work. You're paying them good money for a
job done right.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Lise Bible rentagoodb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Stab in the dark, as I'm not a Frame expert, but when I've encountered this,
 when Frame tells me the graphic is missing and opens a dialog box asking for
 me to indicate where the graphic is, if I find the first one, if the rest of
 them are in the same folder, it'll re-link the rest of them.
 I'm on Frame 8, don't know if it matters...

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RE: Helping FM find graphics files

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Menahem,

 

I have a set of FrameScript scripts for solving this problem. See

 

http://frameautomation.com/2010/02/23/managing-imported-images-solution/

 

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very
much.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

585-219-8959 fax

r...@frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com

 

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Menahem Rosen
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:26 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Helping FM find graphics files

 

Framers,

 

I received translated .fm files (book file + several chapters) from my
translation company. When I plunk them into my FM folder and try opening
them, FM flags every referenced graphic file as missing, because the path
got messed up at the translation company. (It's almost but not just
right-my graphics folder is subordinate to the FM folder, while the
translation company put the graphics folder on the same level as the FM
folder.) Is there an easy way to re-map the references throughout the files.
I just can't do each one manually!

 

TIA

 

Menahem Rosen

Objet Ltd.

 

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Color libraries gone?

[Stuart Rogers]

FM 9.0p255, Win 7 64-bit
16GB RAM

Just getting things up to speed on a new PC and find that FM has lost 
its colour libraries.  In View  Color  Definitions, clicking the arrow 
button has no effect -- no dropdown list appears.  Double-clicking it 
opens the Crayon library.


Tried a reinstall, but no go.

Anybody had this problem and found a fix?

thanks,

--
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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RE: Helping FM find graphics files

[Alison Craig]

I had a similar problem about 2 years ago and was given the advice in the 
thread below...

Alison

-Original Message-
From: Ann Zdunczyk [mailto:azdunc...@triad.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:01 PM
To: Alison Craig
Subject: RE: Relative Path Problem for Linked Graphics

Hi Alison,

You can create MIF files and edit in wordpad or notepad. Look for:

ImportObFileDI c\FMc\Graphicsc\Graphic name'

Change to

ImportObFileDI c\Graphicsc\Graphic name'

**
Ann Zdunczyk
President
a2z Publishing, Inc.
Language Layout,  Translation Consulting,  Template Creation
Phone: (336)922-1271
Fax:   (888)523-2028
Cell:  (336)456-4493
Cell 2:(336)655-4783
http://www.a2z-pub.com
**

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Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 3:45 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Relative Path Problem for Linked Graphics

Version: FM9 (9.0p237)
Unstructured
OS: XP Pro with SP3

I received a set of Spanish files back from my LSP today and as I was making 
some adjustments within the files (I do the final format tweaking as DTP 
charges are outrageous) it became obvious that they had completely screwed up 
my graphics - which I import by reference. As the LSP is in Europe I am hoping 
there is a simple batch method to change the relative path for my all graphics 
rather than have to re-link by hand or wait for a set of corrected files.

The path is only out by one level.

The FM files sit directly above my Graphics (Linked) directory (which is 
further categorized by Chapters, Appendices, etc.). However, there is now 
another directory above Graphics (Linked) entitled FM

...\FM\Graphics (Linked)...

instead of

...\Graphics (Linked)\...

Is there a simple way I can get rid of the FM in the relative path (I don't 
have FrameScript) or am I screwed and need to wait for updated files from my 
LSP?

Alison

FYI: This isn't a mistake the LSP normally makes. I have no idea what they were 
playing at but I'll be having words with them!


Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
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RE: Helping FM find graphics files

[Menahem Rosen]

Ah, I neglected to mention that the graphics are organized (i.e., scattered) 
throughout a myriad of subfolders, depending on the products' modules, models, 
and conditions. So, I can't just do one or move the giant graphics folder 
structure.

Thanks for trying to help!

Menahem



 
 

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Re: Ventura encoded text files

[David Creamer]

Thank you, everyone for your on- and off-list responses.

Dave Creamer
IDEAS Training

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Re: Frame - MindTouch: WAS RE: Save as HTML causes unstructured FM10 to hang

[Robert Lauriston]

I'm not sure which of these are crucial:

[Options]
Output=XHTML

[Setup]
HTMLSuffix=.txt

[Graphics]
UseGraphicPreviews=Yes
StripGraphPath=No
UseOriginalGraphicNames=Yes
GraphPath=.\images

[HTMLOptions]
ObjectIDs=Referenced
NoFonts=Yes
AlignAttributes=No
AllowOverrides=No
StartingSplit=No
BodyContentOnly=Yes

[CSS]
UseCSS=Yes
WriteCssStylesheet=Once
CssFileName=local.css


On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:59 AM, John Sgammato jsgamm...@imprivata.com wrote:
 I'd love to get a look at that mif2htm file!

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
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 Subject: Re: Save as HTML causes unstructured FM10 to hang

 FWIW I've got a MIF2Go setup that exports MindTouch XHTML, I can paste that 
 into a MindTouch page with the editor in source mode and it's clean.
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Re: Disappearing Palettes

[Robert Lauriston]

I've had similar problems with FM10. Sometimes the problem is that
objects are appearing behind other objects (usually a document window,
sometimes another pod) instead of coming to the front. Try resizing
the document window or moving it around to see if there are things
hiding behind it.

Eventually I gave up on using floating windows and pods due to the many bugs.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Framers,

 I use Frame 9 (9.0p255) in Windows 7 via Parallels 6 on a Mac. I keep many
 palettes on-screen in one or two floating blocks.

 This morning I opened an existing Frame document and all palettes were
 missing. Multiple attempts at opening a palette with a menu item (such as
 FormatCharacterDesigner) or key combo (such as CTRL+D) also failed.

 After several tries and restarts (both Windows and Frame), clicking through
 the menus did begin to reveal some of the palettes. I am not sure if all are
 directly accessible from menus.
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Re: Ventura encoded text files

[Matanya Ophee]

On 23/04/2012 5:29 AM, David Creamer wrote:

I have a number of text  files that came from Ventura Publisher that look
like this:

@REF =  II.3:2
The means areF38978Me.F255D   to understand after the
@BOOK = T-4
@REF =  IV.2:6
is muchF38978Me.F255D   than trying to think against it.
@BOOK = T-6
@REF =  V.B.9:3
step isF38978Me.F255D   than the first because it follows.
@BOOK = T-19
@REF =  III.6:6
F38978Me.F255D   to believe that you have been mistaken
@BOOK = T-23
@REF =  II.21:5
another, nor that return from one isF38978Me..F255D
@BOOK = T-24
@REF =  VI.13:1
believe itF38978Me.F255D   to see your brother's body
@BOOK = T-25
@REF =  VI.2:3

(This is just a random example.)

I have Ventura Publisher 10 and it does not read them properly (although I
am far from a VP expert--I tried the open and import menus).
The client has Frame 6; I have Frame 8-10 on my system, but can install 7 on
an older system.
I know early versions of Frame has a Ventura import feature, but I don't
know if it will work with these files.

Is there any way to work with these files? Third-party program suggestions
are welcome too.



Let me know if you find any. In my recent experience with two rather 
large books that I did in Venture 4.1 some 20 years ago, there is no way 
to automatically import these files into FM (I am on v. 8). The way I 
did it eventually, was by copying the Ventura text files (in WordPerfect 
5.2) and pasting them into FM as text, codes and all. Then, manually 
searching and replacing the codes as necessary. Yes, a time consuming 
procedure, but a bit faster and safer than scanning the existing books 
with OCR and producing text files that are importable into FM. That 
procedure, which I also did for some chapters of a book that the Ventura 
files for it were too corrupted to be of any use, is more time consuming 
because of the spell checking that must be done before and after scanning.



Matanya Ophee
Editions Orphée Inc.,
1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
Columbus, OH 43235-1226
Phone: 614-846-9517
Fax: 614-846-9794
mailto:m.op...@orphee.com
http://www.editionsorphee.com
http://matanya.livejournal.com/
http://www.matanyaophee.com

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Re: Ventura encoded text files

[Lynn Gold]

When I had to do this I used Maker Markup Language.  I ran a few Emacs 
macros over the file and it converted easily.  One of the things to watch 
out for is VP and FM use colons and semicolons in Index markers the 
opposite way, so when replacing strings you have to make an intermediary 
step of replacing one of those to some random text string not likely to 
appear in your book.  To wit:

1. Replace : with murgatroyd.
2. Replace ; with :.
3. Replace murgatroyd wtih ;.

--Lynn



From:   David Creamer ideasli...@ideastraining.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date:   04/23/2012 02:33 PM
Subject:Ventura encoded text files
Sent by:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com



I have a number of text  files that came from Ventura Publisher that look
like this:

@REF =   II.3:2
The means are  F38978Me.F255D  to understand after the
@BOOK = T-4
@REF =   IV.2:6
is much  F38978Me.F255D  than trying to think against it.
@BOOK = T-6
@REF =   V.B.9:3
step is  F38978Me.F255D  than the first because it follows.
@BOOK = T-19
@REF =   III.6:6
F38978Me.F255D  to believe that you have been mistaken
@BOOK = T-23
@REF =   II.21:5
another, nor that return from one is  F38978Me..F255D
@BOOK = T-24
@REF =   VI.13:1
believe it  F38978Me.F255D  to see your brother's body
@BOOK = T-25
@REF =   VI.2:3

(This is just a random example.)

I have Ventura Publisher 10 and it does not read them properly (although I
am far from a VP expert--I tried the open and import menus).
The client has Frame 6; I have Frame 8-10 on my system, but can install 7 
on
an older system.
I know early versions of Frame has a Ventura import feature, but I don't
know if it will work with these files.

Is there any way to work with these files? Third-party program suggestions
are welcome too.

My only other thought is some GREP Find/Change work.

Thank you in advance,

David Creamer
IDEAS Training

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Re: automating FrameMaker 10 + RoboHelp 9 build

[Robert Lauriston]

For future reference, I posted full details in Adobe's RoboHelp 
FrameMaker Integration forum: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/980779

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 For future reference, with minor changes,
 FM_INSTALL_DIR\Samples\ScriptsAndUtilities\Conditional
 Text\FM_Outputs_CondText.jsx that comes with FM10 handles step 2. The
 rest isn't really relevant to this list.

 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com 
 wrote:
 I'm looking into automating a time-consuming build process and am
 curious if anyone has done this successfully. I know how to do it
 (I've done similar things in the past with DZbatcher, ANT, etc.), I
 just don't want to start the project if I know that it's not possible,
 or if these are the wrong scripting tools.

 1. Windows batch file: launch FrameMaker from command line and start
 ExtendScript

 2. FrameMaker ExtendScript: open project, set conditional text for
 PDF, update book, save as PDF, set conditional text for online help,
 update book, save

 3. return to batch file, delete the contents of the Web help target
 directory, launch RoboHelp from command line, and start ExtendScript

 4. RoboHelp ExtendScript: open RoboHelp project, update FrameMaker
 source, generate Web help

 5. return to batch file, create .zip file from Web help target
 directory, launch Cygwin and start script

 6. Cygwin script: cvs commit (I know it's possible to kick off a
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Re: Helping FM find graphics files

[Bill Swallow]

Sounds like Rick's $95 solution is the way you should go, if it's
going to be that much effort.

Definitely have a talk with your translation vendor if it's caused
this much rework.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Menahem Rosen menahem.ro...@objet.com wrote:
 Ah, I neglected to mention that the graphics are organized (i.e., scattered)
 throughout a myriad of subfolders, depending on the products' modules,
 models, and conditions. So, I can't just do one or move the giant graphics
 folder structure.

 Thanks for trying to help!

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RE: Helping FM find graphics files

[Sharon Burton]

Why can't you kick this back to the translation vendor to fix at no charge?
They broke it. Seems they should fix it. I assume your contract states
something like you get files back in a useable condition? These are not
usable.


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Subject: Re: Helping FM find graphics files

Sounds like Rick's $95 solution is the way you should go, if it's going to
be that much effort.

Definitely have a talk with your translation vendor if it's caused this much
rework.

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wrote:
 Ah, I neglected to mention that the graphics are organized (i.e., 
 scattered) throughout a myriad of subfolders, depending on the 
 products' modules, models, and conditions. So, I can't just do one or 
 move the giant graphics folder structure.

 Thanks for trying to help!

 Menahem

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RE: Helping FM find graphics files

[Combs, Richard]

Menahem Rosen wrote:
 
 Ah, I neglected to mention that the graphics are organized (i.e.,
 scattered) throughout a myriad of subfolders, depending on the
 products' modules, models, and conditions. So, I can't just do one or
 move the giant graphics folder structure.
 Thanks for trying to help!

So how did you supply all these widely-scattered graphics files to the 
translation vendor? To avoid breakage, they'd have to replicate your folder 
structure. 

Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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RE: Helping FM find graphics files

[Menahem Rosen]

They got the whole file structure to begin with. What I need to get back are 
only the translated fm files.

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Re: Helping FM find graphics files

[Lise Bible]

Ok, so here's a thought--can you make a copy of your whole original set of
files and graphic folders (untranslated), then delete the  fm files in
there, and copy and paste in the translated fm files? Would they then be
looking for the graphics in the right place?

-Lise

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 They got the whole file structure to begin with. What I need to get back
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RE: Helping FM find graphics files

[Combs, Richard]

Menahem Rosen wrote:
 
 They got the whole file structure to begin with. What I need to get
 back are only the translated fm files.

Didn't the translation vendor localize the graphics? 

It seems to me that for each translation language, you should be getting back a 
mirror image of your source-language folder structure. 

I just re-read your original post. When you said regarding the FM files that I 
plunk them into my FM folder, you didn't mean into the same folder holding 
your source-language FM files, did you? 

There should be a separate set of files and folders for each language, all with 
the same directory structure. The translation vendor shouldn't change the 
directory structure for the localized files -- but if it does, it must update 
the graphic file references. In that case, nothing is broken as long as you get 
back the entire structure, including the referenced graphics directories, not 
just the FM files. 

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Ventura encoded text files

[Yves Barbion]

Hi David

Ah, good old Ventura Publisher! Those were the days. We have used Maker
Markup Language (MML) for this type of conversion jobs. We just opened the
VP text files in Notepad++ or  EditPad Lite and replaced the VP markup (@REF
=) with maker markup (). Then, we simply imported the MML files into
our FrameMaker templates.

You can find a MML reference guide here:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/mml_reference.pdf

Cheers



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Helping FM find graphics files

[Menahem Rosen]

Framers,

I received translated .fm files (book file + several chapters) from my 
translation company. When I plunk them into my FM folder and try opening them, 
FM flags every referenced graphic file as "missing, because the path got messed 
up at the translation company. (It's "almost" but not "just" right-my graphics 
folder is subordinate to the FM folder, while the translation company put the 
graphics folder on the same level as the FM folder.) Is there an easy way to 
re-map the references throughout the files. I just can't do each one manually!

TIA


Menahem Rosen

Objet Ltd.





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Helping FM find graphics files

[Peter Hirons]

Wouldn't it be easier to move the graphics folder?  In any case, all you
need to do is find the first graphic and make sure "use new path for all
graphics" (may not be exact wording) is selected.



Peter



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Framers,



I received translated .fm files (book file + several chapters) from my
translation company. When I plunk them into my FM folder and try opening
them, FM flags every referenced graphic file as "missing, because the
path got messed up at the translation company. (It's "almost" but not
"just" right-my graphics folder is subordinate to the FM folder, while
the translation company put the graphics folder on the same level as the
FM folder.) Is there an easy way to re-map the references throughout the
files. I just can't do each one manually!



TIA



Menahem Rosen

Objet Ltd.







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Helping FM find graphics files

[David Spreadbury]

At the book level, highlight all of the chapter files and press Enter (opens 
all files). Frame will ask to reconcile the first "missing" graphic and 
remember this as it opens the other chapters. At least this has worked for me 
with Frame 7.2, as long as all of the graphics are in the same folder.

--- On Tue, 4/24/12, Menahem Rosen  wrote:

From: Menahem Rosen <menahem.ro...@objet.com>
Subject: Helping FM find graphics files
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 11:26 AM



















Framers, 

 ? 

I received translated .fm files (book file + several
chapters) from my translation company. When I plunk them into my FM folder and
try opening them, FM flags every referenced graphic file as ?missing,
because the path got messed up at the translation company. (It?s ?almost?
but not ?just? right?my graphics folder is subordinate to the
FM folder, while the translation company put the graphics folder on the same
level as the FM folder.) Is there an easy way to re-map the references
throughout the files. I just can?t do each one manually! 

 ? 

TIA 

 ? 




Menahem
 Rosen 

Objet Ltd. 



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Helping FM find graphics files

[Lise Bible]

Stab in the dark, as I'm not a Frame expert, but when I've encountered
this, when Frame tells me the graphic is missing and opens a dialog box
asking for me to indicate where the graphic is, if I find the first one, if
the rest of them are in the same folder, it'll re-link the rest of them.
I'm on Frame 8, don't know if it matters...

Thanks,
Lise

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Menahem Rosen wrote:

> **
>
> Framers,
>
> ** **
>
> I received translated .fm files (book file + several chapters) from my
> translation company. When I plunk them into my FM folder and try opening
> them, FM flags every referenced graphic file as ?missing, because the path
> got messed up at the translation company. (It?s ?almost? but not ?just?
> right?my graphics folder is subordinate to the FM folder, while the
> translation company put the graphics folder on the same level as the FM
> folder.) Is there an easy way to re-map the references throughout the
> files. I just can?t do each one manually!
>
> ** **
>
> TIA
>
> ** **
>
> **Menahem Rosen**
>
> Objet Ltd.
>
> ** **
>
>
>
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Disappearing Palettes

[Karen Robbins]

Thanks, Stuart, now I remember Workspaces--and even a fairly recent 
discussion about the .fws and .cfws files--but couldn't put them 
together. I will set this up and hope I don't have to use it often. 
:-)

Typically, running Windows under Parallels is no different, it's just 
more challenging for us Mac folks to figure out where stuff is (and 
why it doesn't work like a Mac).

--Karen

At 12:00 PM -0500 4/24/12, Stuart Rogers wrote:

>Karen,
>
>FM keeps track of your open palettes etc. in Workspace files with the
>extension .fws or .cfws.  It sounds like something got fried in
>whichever .cfws file you last used.
>
>The best way to restore your palettes is to set up the interface the way
>you like it and then save it as a custom workspace.  Then when things go
>haywire (or you've just managed to move everything around for various
>reasons), you can choose Reset from the workspace menu and everything
>will be restored.  (Assuming the .cfws file is OK.)
>
>(The .fws and .cfws files are in the WorkSpaces folder within fminit;
>you may find more than one instance of the fminit folder; I'm not sure
>how Parallels, Macs, etc. work this out.)
>
>HTH,
>
>--
>Stuart Rogers

>On 23/04/2012 3:04 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:
>  > Hello Framers,
>>
>>  I use Frame 9 (9.0p255) in Windows 7 via Parallels 6 on a Mac. I keep
>>  many palettes on-screen in one or two floating blocks.
>>
>>  This morning I opened an existing Frame document and all palettes were
>>  missing. Multiple attempts at opening a palette with a menu item (such
>>  as Format>Character>Designer) or key combo (such as CTRL+D) also failed.
>  >
>>  After several tries and restarts (both Windows and Frame), clicking
>>  through the menus did begin to reveal some of the palettes. I am not
>  > sure if all are directly accessible from menus.
>>
>>  What might cause this to happen? Is the best way (only way?) to restore
>>  disappearing palettes simply to call all of them from menus again?
>>
>>  thanks,
>  > Karen

Helping FM find graphics files

[Bill Swallow]

Lise's advice should work. Peter's advice to move the graphics folder
to where FM's looking for it also should work.

Of note, your LSP should not be altering your project like this in any
way. Make sure they know not to do this again going forward, as it
adds unnecessary additional work. You're paying them good money for a
job done right.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Lise Bible  wrote:
> Stab in the dark, as I'm not a Frame expert, but when I've encountered this,
> when Frame tells me the graphic is missing and opens a dialog box asking for
> me to indicate where the graphic is, if I find the first one, if the rest of
> them are in the same folder, it'll re-link the rest of them.
> I'm on Frame 8, don't know if it matters...

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GlobalScript, a division of LinguaLinx
http://globalscript.com
http://lingualinx.com

Helping FM find graphics files

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Menahem,



I have a set of FrameScript scripts for solving this problem. See



http://frameautomation.com/2010/02/23/managing-imported-images-solution/



Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very
much.



Rick



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

585-219-8959 fax

rick at frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com





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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Menahem Rosen
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:26 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Helping FM find graphics files



Framers,



I received translated .fm files (book file + several chapters) from my
translation company. When I plunk them into my FM folder and try opening
them, FM flags every referenced graphic file as "missing, because the path
got messed up at the translation company. (It's "almost" but not "just"
right-my graphics folder is subordinate to the FM folder, while the
translation company put the graphics folder on the same level as the FM
folder.) Is there an easy way to re-map the references throughout the files.
I just can't do each one manually!



TIA



Menahem Rosen

Objet Ltd.



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Color libraries gone?

[Stuart Rogers]

FM 9.0p255, Win 7 64-bit
16GB RAM

Just getting things up to speed on a new PC and find that FM has lost 
its colour libraries.  In View > Color > Definitions, clicking the arrow 
button has no effect -- no dropdown list appears.  Double-clicking it 
opens the Crayon library.

Tried a reinstall, but no go.

Anybody had this problem and found a fix?

thanks,

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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Helping FM find graphics files

[Alison Craig]

I had a similar problem about 2 years ago and was given the advice in the 
thread below...

Alison

-Original Message-
From: Ann Zdunczyk [mailto:azdunc...@triad.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:01 PM
To: Alison Craig
Subject: RE: Relative Path Problem for Linked Graphics

Hi Alison,

You can create MIF files and edit in wordpad or notepad. Look for:

FMGraphicsGraphic name'>

Change to

GraphicsGraphic name'>

**
Ann Zdunczyk
President
a2z Publishing, Inc.
Language Layout, ?Translation Consulting, & Template Creation
Phone: (336)922-1271
Fax: ??(888)523-2028
Cell: ?(336)456-4493
Cell 2:(336)655-4783
http://www.a2z-pub.com
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Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 3:45 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Relative Path Problem for Linked Graphics

Version: FM9 (9.0p237)
Unstructured
OS: XP Pro with SP3

I received a set of Spanish files back from my LSP today and as I was making 
some adjustments within the files (I do the final format tweaking as DTP 
charges are outrageous) it became obvious that they had completely screwed up 
my graphics - which I import by reference. As the LSP is in Europe I am hoping 
there is a simple batch method to change the relative path for my all graphics 
rather than have to re-link by hand or wait for a set of corrected files.

The path is only out by one level.

The FM files sit directly above my "Graphics (Linked)" directory (which is 
further categorized by Chapters, Appendices, etc.). However, there is now 
another directory above "Graphics (Linked)" entitled "FM"

...\FM\Graphics (Linked)...

instead of

...\Graphics (Linked)\...

Is there a simple way I can get rid of the "FM" in the relative path (I don't 
have FrameScript) or am I screwed and need to wait for updated files from my 
LSP?

Alison

FYI: This isn't a mistake the LSP normally makes. I have no idea what they were 
playing at but I'll be having words with them!


Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
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Helping FM find graphics files

[Menahem Rosen]

Ah, I neglected to mention that the graphics are organized (i.e., scattered) 
throughout a myriad of subfolders, depending on the products' modules, models, 
and conditions. So, I can't just do one or move the giant graphics folder 
structure.

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Ventura encoded text files

[David Creamer]

Thank you, everyone for your on- and off-list responses.

Dave Creamer
IDEAS Training

Helping FM find graphics files

[Bill Swallow]

Sounds like Rick's $95 solution is the way you should go, if it's
going to be that much effort.

Definitely have a talk with your translation vendor if it's caused
this much rework.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Menahem Rosen  
wrote:
> Ah, I neglected to mention that the graphics are organized (i.e., scattered)
> throughout a myriad of subfolders, depending on the products' modules,
> models, and conditions. So, I can't just do one or move the giant graphics
> folder structure.
>
> Thanks for trying to help!
>
> Menahem

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Bill Swallow
Content Solutions Manager
GlobalScript, a division of LinguaLinx
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Helping FM find graphics files

[Sharon Burton]

Why can't you kick this back to the translation vendor to fix at no charge?
They broke it. Seems they should fix it. I assume your contract states
something like you get files back in a useable condition? These are not
usable.


sharon

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:23 PM
To: Menahem Rosen
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Helping FM find graphics files

Sounds like Rick's $95 solution is the way you should go, if it's going to
be that much effort.

Definitely have a talk with your translation vendor if it's caused this much
rework.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Menahem Rosen 
wrote:
> Ah, I neglected to mention that the graphics are organized (i.e., 
> scattered) throughout a myriad of subfolders, depending on the 
> products' modules, models, and conditions. So, I can't just do one or 
> move the giant graphics folder structure.
>
> Thanks for trying to help!
>
> Menahem

. 

Helping FM find graphics files

[Combs, Richard]

Menahem Rosen wrote:

> Ah, I neglected to mention that the graphics are organized (i.e.,
> scattered) throughout a myriad of subfolders, depending on the
> products' modules, models, and conditions. So, I can't just do one or
> move the giant graphics folder structure.
> Thanks for trying to help!

So how did you supply all these widely-scattered graphics files to the 
translation vendor? To avoid breakage, they'd have to replicate your folder 
structure. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--

Helping FM find graphics files

[Lise Bible]

Ok, so here's a thought--can you make a copy of your whole original set of
files and graphic folders (untranslated), then delete the  fm files in
there, and copy and paste in the translated fm files? Would they then be
looking for the graphics in the right place?

-Lise

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Menahem Rosen wrote:

> They got the whole file structure to begin with. What I need to get back
> are only the translated fm files.
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Helping FM find graphics files

[Combs, Richard]

Menahem Rosen wrote:

> They got the whole file structure to begin with. What I need to get
> back are only the translated fm files.

Didn't the translation vendor localize the graphics? 

It seems to me that for each translation language, you should be getting back a 
mirror image of your source-language folder structure. 

I just re-read your original post. When you said regarding the FM files that "I 
plunk them into my FM folder," you didn't mean into the same folder holding 
your source-language FM files, did you? 

There should be a separate set of files and folders for each language, all with 
the same directory structure. The translation vendor shouldn't change the 
directory structure for the localized files -- but if it does, it must update 
the graphic file references. In that case, nothing is broken as long as you get 
back the entire structure, including the referenced graphics directories, not 
just the FM files. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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Helping FM find graphics files

[Robert Lauriston]

In that case, the translation agency screwed up. They should fix the
incorrect paths at no additional cost to your company.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Menahem Rosen  
wrote:
> They got the whole file structure to begin with. What I need to get back are
> only the translated fm files.