RE: FrameMaker 10.x and Windows 8?

2013-01-18 Thread Combs, Richard
Robert Lauriston wrote: It may be a slight exaggeration to say that no competent corporate IT department will approve the use of Windows 8 until next year. If then. Many companies grimly clung to Win XP until long after Vista had slunk from the stage and been replaced by Win 7. I suspect

RE: Add to Books

2013-01-18 Thread Oran Petersen
I teach book/composite functionality, use and operations on a regular basis. I show my students the Add to Books feature in the menu, and then tell them to forget it. The sort issue goes back to the beginning of books in FrameMaker in Windows. What I teach is: - Create the book, or open an

RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Craig Ede
Dov, I didn't initiate this conversation, but I'd like to chime in. Your points are well taken, but a problem I had with the Adobe PI substitution was that simple bullets were coming across as question marks in my PDFs. That would indicate a mapping problem that is pretty obvious. Also, you

Re: Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
I've looked at PDFs in a text editor and seen readable code. Maybe the non-binary format is extinct as of some version of Acrobat. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com wrote: Please repeat after me, “PDF is a binary file format!” You cannot create, edit, or in most

Re: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
Adobe Pi's character map is different than the Type 1 Zapf that used to be included with FrameMaker, so without the old font the solid, hollow, and square bullets in the template I inherited showed up as question marks in my online help and PDF. Maybe Adobe Pi was designed by the same morons who

comprehensive list of causes of blank pages?

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the three? five? FM settings that can cause blank pages? Every once in a while I need to clean them out of an inherited document but I always forget to make a list. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers

Re: Add to Books

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
That seems like unnecessary extra work to me. You can get the same results in FrameMaker: 1. open the book file 2. select the document after which you want the new documents to appear 3. select Add Files 4. select the .fm files in reverse of the order in which you want them to appear 5. click

RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Dov Isaacs
Craig, I will assume that the symptoms you are reporting are indeed occurring! That being the case, it would appear that FrameMaker is simply not mapping the Type 1 Zapf Dingbats character positions to the proper positions in Adobe Pi, a Unicode-based OpenType CFF font. In the old Type 1

RE: Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5

2013-01-18 Thread Dov Isaacs
It was extinct as of Acrobat 1.0! Just because some content in the PDF appears as clear, ASCII text, doesn't mean that the file in non-binary. Please trust me on this!!! - Dov [cid:image001.png@01CDF59F.A03BA100] Dov Isaacs Principal Scientist Adobe Systems Incorporated +1

RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Dov Isaacs
Robert, Please see the response I sent out a few minutes ago. There is nothing wrong with the Adobe Pi font, but rather, there is a nasty mapping issue that should have been resolved in FrameMaker if they in fact had a .ini file setting mapping Type 1 Zapf Dingbats to Adobe Pi or any other

RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Dov Isaacs
Maybe we can just stop labelling people as morons or incompetents ... And by the way, if you know anything about the real history of OS/2, you wouldn't be labelling them as incompetents. The fact was that OS/2 was supposed to be the enterprise OS for PCs as a joint Microsoft / IBM project

RE: Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5

2013-01-18 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi, Robert. There may well be _some_ readable text inside a PDF file, but the file is binary for sure - most of it will be unreadable in that regard. If you edit a PDF file with a standard ASCII text editor and save the file, it _may_ get quite corrupted (for example, if the editor adds life

FrameMaker 10.x and Windows 8?

2013-01-18 Thread Combs, Richard
Robert Lauriston wrote: > It may be a slight exaggeration to say that no competent corporate IT > department will approve the use of Windows 8 until next year. If then. Many companies grimly clung to Win XP until long after Vista had slunk from the stage and been replaced by Win 7. I suspect

Add to Books

2013-01-18 Thread Oran Petersen
I teach book/composite functionality, use and operations on a regular basis. I show my students the "Add to Books" feature in the menu, and then tell them to forget it. The sort issue goes back to the beginning of books in FrameMaker in Windows. What I teach is: - Create the book, or open an

Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Craig Ede
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Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
I've looked at PDFs in a text editor and seen readable code. Maybe the non-binary format is extinct as of some version of Acrobat. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Dov Isaacs wrote: > > Please repeat after me, ?PDF is a binary file format!? You cannot create, > edit, or in most cases readily

Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
Adobe Pi's character map is different than the Type 1 Zapf that used to be included with FrameMaker, so without the old font the solid, hollow, and square bullets in the template I inherited showed up as question marks in my online help and PDF. Maybe Adobe Pi was designed by the same morons who

comprehensive list of causes of blank pages?

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the three? five? FM settings that can cause blank pages? Every once in a while I need to clean them out of an inherited document but I always forget to make a list.

Add to Books

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
That seems like unnecessary extra work to me. You can get the same results in FrameMaker: 1. open the book file 2. select the document after which you want the new documents to appear 3. select Add > Files 4. select the .fm files in reverse of the order in which you want them to appear 5. click

Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Dov Isaacs
obat and Reader and then for other Adobe applications. Although the > design of each of the glyphs is not identical, Adobe Pi does do a > fairly good job as a substitute and in some cases, the glyphs are much > more modern looking than Zapf Dingbat's highly dated look. --

Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5

2013-01-18 Thread Dov Isaacs
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Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Dov Isaacs
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Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Dov Isaacs
?" Likewise, you may not like the UI makeover > of FrameMaker (maybe I don't either), but that doesn't make those who > designed and implemented it "morons." -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130118/7e85e0e9/attachment.html>

Random links in pdf don't work, but only on RHEL 5

2013-01-18 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi, Robert. There may well be _some_ readable text inside a PDF file, but the file is binary for sure - most of it will be unreadable in that regard. If you edit a PDF file with a standard ASCII text editor and save the file, it _may_ get quite corrupted (for example, if the editor adds life

Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
Yes, I figured that out. I believe I called Adobe tech support about the problem, so they should be aware of it. You're right, there's nothing wrong with the design of Adobe Pi. The moron was whoever did the Zapf > Pi mapping in FrameMaker 8. The UI makeover in FM9 was wrong in so many ways that

Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
I know a lot about OS/2. I covered operating systems for PC World from 1989 to 1993 and used every version from 1.0 to 4.0. It was technically advanced in certain ways but utterly unsuitable for the average users IBM somehow thought would buy it. Microsoft had no choice but to unchain themselves