RE: Annotating text in a cross-ref in a PDF
Hi Carol, I just did what you describe, and it works without any problems. I created a file with some text, created a cross-reference to this paragraph which lists only the paragraph text ($paratext) and created a PDF. Then I move the cursor to the right of the cross-reference. The cursor's appearance changes to an i-beam. Then I press the left mouse button and move the i-beam across the cross- reference. Then I press the Strikethrough symbol to apply this comment type. This also works when I press the Strikethough icon first and then start selecting. This works whether I start selecting from the left or the right side of the cross-reference. Maybe you should move the cursor farther away to get the i-beam cursor. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:29 PM To: fram...@omsys.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Annotating text in a cross-ref in a PDF I'm generating PDFs out of Frame 11 and opening them in Acrobat 11 Pro in a Windows environment. I've discovered that the text in cross-references created in Framemaker cannot be annotated in Acrobat using the Strikethrough Text tool or the Insert Text at Cursor tool, and probably other tools as well. Because the text is a cross-reference, the user sees a hand cursor rather than a cross-hair or I-beam and is thus unable to annotate the text. I've tried various combinations of holding the Control, Shift, and Alt keys down, but the hand cursor persists. Does anyone know a trick to force Acrobat to ignore the fact that text is a cross-reference and allow users to annotate the text? Carol This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: framers Digest, Vol 101, Issue 27
Thanks for trying, Winfried. Unfortunately, text in the middle of the cross-reference isn't annotatable. The I-beam cursor starts red-lining wherever it is placed and the user can't segregate just the text that they want to annotate from the surrounding text in the cross-reference. I think that either identifying the revision in a balloon or encircling it with an added explanation is the only option. Since cross-references exist on a layer above the text, I was hoping there was a nifty way to drill down below the cross-ref layer to get at the text. Worse case, I could teach my reviewers how to delete all cross-refs in the document, but that is too complex and also defeats the purpose of checking to ensure the cross-refs go to where they should. I'll add it to my list of feature requests. Carol At 11:00 AM 3/28/2014, you wrote: Hi Carol, I just did what you describe, and it works without any problems. I created a file with some text, created a cross-reference to this paragraph which lists only the paragraph text ($paratext) and created a PDF. Then I move the cursor to the right of the cross-reference. The cursor's appearance changes to an i-beam. Then I press the left mouse button and move the i-beam across the cross- reference. Then I press the Strikethrough symbol to apply this comment type. This also works when I press the Strikethough icon first and then start selecting. This works whether I start selecting from the left or the right side of the cross-reference. Maybe you should move the cursor farther away to get the i-beam cursor. Best regards ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
making stuff unconditional in FM12
Hi everyone I just went looking for the unconditional button in the revamped Conditional Tags pod in FM12. It ain't there. Am I just being blind? Or is there another one-or-two-click way to make stuff unconditional? At the moment, it looks like I either have to go the Copy Special route, or manually untick all the tick boxes. To add insult to injury, they go On As Is Off, so I have to click each tickbox *twice* to clear it. Seriously, Adobe?? Cheers Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Annotating text in a cross-ref in a PDF
That sounds like a sound solution. Craig From: jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Annotating text in a cross-ref in a PDF Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 20:13:26 + I think you're going to have to have them add a comment balloon next to the xref. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: March-27-14 3:49 PM To: Craig Ede; framers Subject: RE: Annotating text in a cross-ref in a PDF Craig, Of course I revise any annotated cross-ref in the source FM document. But the cross-references must be reviewed and annotated, if necessary, in Acrobat. I give these PDFs to my clients for review and THEY must be able to annotate them. Carol At 01:43 PM 3/27/2014, you wrote: If it is a cross reference, you'd want to edit that at the source text that is creating the cross reference text. I'd suggest adjusting your work flow. If your reviewers want to to edit the xref, they should click on the link and then make the edit at the source that is providing the text. If the text is edited there, the xref will take care of itself. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonasclub.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Annotating text in a cross-ref in a PDF
If it is a cross reference, you'd want to edit that at the source text that is creating the cross reference text. I'd suggest adjusting your work flow. If your reviewers want to to edit the xref, they should click on the link and then make the edit at the source that is providing the text. If the text is edited there, the xref will take care of itself. Craig Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:29:07 -0600 To: fram...@omsys.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com From: celk...@awrittenword.com Subject: Annotating text in a cross-ref in a PDF I'm generating PDFs out of Frame 11 and opening them in Acrobat 11 Pro in a Windows environment. I've discovered that the text in cross-references created in Framemaker cannot be annotated in Acrobat using the Strikethrough Text tool or the Insert Text at Cursor tool, and probably other tools as well. Because the text is a cross-reference, the user sees a hand cursor rather than a cross-hair or I-beam and is thus unable to annotate the text. I've tried various combinations of holding the Control, Shift, and Alt keys down, but the hand cursor persists. Does anyone know a trick to force Acrobat to ignore the fact that text is a cross-reference and allow users to annotate the text? Carol ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Framemaker-DITA group still active?
Hi Framers, Does anyone know if the Yahoo FrameMaker-DITA group is still active? I attempted to join the group and (eventually) got the message below as a response. Thanks, Peggy -Original Message- From: Yahoo Groups Notification [mailto:not...@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 3:10 AM To: Harvey, Peggy Subject: Request to join framemaker-dita denied Hello, Your request to join the framemaker-dita group was not approved. Your membership was automatically rejected because the moderator didn't approve it within 14 days. We do this to provide a high quality of service for our users. If you want, you may attempt to join this group again. This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient, please be advised that the content of this message is subject to access, review and disclosure by the sender's e-mail System Administrator. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker-DITA group still active?
Still active. Not sure who the moderator is though. Will try to find out. ...scott Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos or unexpected brevity. On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Harvey, Peggy peggy_har...@alliedtelesis.com wrote: Hi Framers, Does anyone know if the Yahoo FrameMaker-DITA group is still active? I attempted to join the group and (eventually) got the message below as a response. Thanks, Peggy -Original Message- From: Yahoo Groups Notification [mailto:not...@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 3:10 AM To: Harvey, Peggy Subject: Request to join framemaker-dita denied Hello, Your request to join the framemaker-dita group was not approved. Your membership was automatically rejected because the moderator didn't approve it within 14 days. We do this to provide a high quality of service for our users. If you want, you may attempt to join this group again. This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient, please be advised that the content of this message is subject to access, review and disclosure by the sender's e-mail System Administrator. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
