Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

2015-04-02 Thread David Spreadbury 
Dan,If you enter the URI with your address (a URI scheme name (such as "http", 
"ftp", "mailto", "crid" or "file") followed by a colon character) with all of 
your links in Frame , Acrobat should recognize them as links when you produce 
your PDF.Examples: http://{address}?or mailto:{address}, etc.
David Spreadbury 


 On Thursday, April 2, 2015 2:37 PM, "Harding, Dan"  wrote:


  Version: FrameMaker 12, Unstructured.  ? When generating 
PDFs, Frame automatically converts (SOME!) URLs to hyperlinks, which is great, 
but it?s not an exact science, and I?d like to be able to fine tune some things 
globally rather than manually inserting and editing a zillion hypertext links:  
? 1.??Frame recognizeswww. (without an http:// prefix) as a URL and 
converts it to a link. Fine. Spiffy. How do I get it to automatically recognize 
non-www domains, e.g. bit.ly, tinyurl.com, etc.? Where is this automatic 
conversion controlled?

 2.??Our formatting is such that we put urls in brackets, e.g., 
[www.fubar.com]. Problem: Frame automatically appends the closing bracket to 
the URL when creating the link, which of course breaks the link. Only the 
opening bracket, not the opening bracket. Adding a space, e.g., [www.fubar.com 
] does not fix the problem.

 3.??If I wanted to disable automatic link conversion in creation of the 
PDF (yet maintain conversion of manually created hypertext markers), where and 
how would I do this?

 Thanks,  ? -Dan 
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RE: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

2015-04-02 Thread Rick Quatro 
And with FrameMaker 12 regular expressions, it is easier to search for URLs
in the text so you can follow Fred's steps. It is really worth making the
URLs work correctly as links because there is an expectation that links like
these will work in a PDF. As I mentioned, the entire process could be
scripted; this would be beneficial if you have a lot of URLs in the text.

 

Rick

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 4:14 PM
To: Harding, Dan; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

 

The hyperlinks you are seeing in the PDF may not actually be there, and they
probably did not come from FrameMaker! For several years, now, Acrobat has
had the feature of inferring hyperlinks from text strings that look like
URLs. But the feature is a little dumb in just the ways you describe (being
unable to properly distinguish surrounding characters from the URL, and not
working on URLs that are broken across more than one line).

The right way to handle URLs in FrameMaker is to explicitly code them as
Hypertext markers of the Go To URL type. The marker contains the actual URL,
which can be different from what appears in the text of the document, and
the "hot-spot" area in the text is delimited by some character format that
you apply to the desired string. (The character format does not need to look
different than the regular text, but it must be applied or else FrameMaker
will treat the entire portion of the paragraph that follows the Hypertext
marker as the active area for the link.)

Then, when you create the PDF from the FrameMaker book, you need to ensure
that the "Include Acrobat Data" option is selected so that the real URL from
the marker will be passed into the PDF.  

It sounds more complicated than it is. The steps I use are:

1.  Select the text that will be the hot-spot. If it's the correct
string for the URL, copy it to the clipboard.
2.  Apply the character format you're using for hyperlinks.
3.  Go to the Hypertext window and choose "Go to URL" from the command
list; "message URL" will appear in the text box.
4.  In the text box, paste (or type) the URL after the pre-populated
string, then click Create Hypertext Marker.

-Fred Ridder



 

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RE: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

2015-04-02 Thread Tammy Van Boening 
I think Stuart has anointed himself as the Framemaker Archive historian! (I got 
called out on this yesterday myself!J)

 

TVB

 

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com

 

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harding, Dan
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 2:10 PM
To: framers
Subject: RE: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

 

Well in all fairness, that was 5 years and 3 versions ago. (a) I can’t remember 
that far back, and (b) who knows, the process/settings may have changed in the 
interim.

 

-Dan

 

From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 3:03 PM
To: Harding, Dan; framers
Subject: Re: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

 

On 2015-Apr-02 3:37 PM, Harding, Dan wrote:

Version: FrameMaker 12, Unstructured.

 

When generating PDFs, Frame automatically converts (SOME!) URLs to hyperlinks, 
which is great, but it’s not an exact science, and I’d like to be able to fine 
tune some things globally rather than manually inserting and editing a zillion 
hypertext links:

 

1.  Frame recognizes www. (without an http:// prefix) as a URL and 
converts it to a link. Fine. Spiffy. How do I get it to automatically recognize 
non-www domains, e.g. bit.ly, tinyurl.com, etc.? Where is this automatic 
conversion controlled?



2.  Our formatting is such that we put urls in brackets, e.g., 
[www.fubar.com]. Problem: Frame automatically appends the closing bracket to 
the URL when creating the link, which of course breaks the link. Only the 
opening bracket, not the opening bracket. Adding a space, e.g., [ www.fubar.com 
] does not fix the problem.



3.  If I wanted to disable automatic link conversion in creation of the PDF 
(yet maintain conversion of manually created hypertext markers), where and how 
would I do this?



Thanks,

 

-Dan

 


Hi Dan,

Seems you've run into this before!  
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-September/021218.html

HTH,

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
 
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RE: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

2015-04-02 Thread Fred Ridder 
The hyperlinks you are seeing in the PDF may not actually be there, and they 
probably did not come from FrameMaker! For several years, now, Acrobat has had 
the feature of inferring hyperlinks from text strings that look like URLs. But 
the feature is a little dumb in just the ways you describe (being unable to 
properly distinguish surrounding characters from the URL, and not working on 
URLs that are broken across more than one line).

The right way to handle URLs in FrameMaker is to explicitly code them as 
Hypertext markers of the Go To URL type. The marker contains the actual URL, 
which can be different from what appears in the text of the document, and the 
"hot-spot" area in the text is delimited by some character format that you 
apply to the desired string. (The character format does not need to look 
different than the regular text, but it must be applied or else FrameMaker will 
treat the entire portion of the paragraph that follows the Hypertext marker as 
the active area for the link.)

Then, when you create the PDF from the FrameMaker book, you need to ensure that 
the "Include Acrobat Data" option is selected so that the real URL from the 
marker will be passed into the PDF.  

It sounds more complicated than it is. The steps I use are:
Select the text that will be the hot-spot. If it's the correct string for the 
URL, copy it to the clipboard.Apply the character format you're using for 
hyperlinks.Go to the Hypertext window and choose "Go to URL" from the command 
list; "message URL" will appear in the text box.In the text box, paste (or 
type) the URL after the pre-populated string, then click Create Hypertext 
Marker.

-Fred Ridder


From: dhard...@illinois.edu
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 19:37:57 +









Version: FrameMaker 12, Unstructured.
 
When generating PDFs, Frame automatically converts (SOME!) URLs to hyperlinks, 
which is great, but it’s not an exact science, and I’d like to be able to fine
 tune some things globally rather than manually inserting and editing a zillion 
hypertext links:
 
1.  
Frame recognizes
www. (without an http:// prefix) as a URL and converts it to a link. 
Fine. Spiffy. How do I get it to automatically recognize non-www domains, e.g. 
bit.ly, tinyurl.com, etc.? Where is this automatic conversion controlled?




2.  
Our formatting is such that we put urls in brackets, e.g., [www.fubar.com]. 
Problem: Frame automatically appends the closing bracket to the URL when
 creating the link, which of course breaks the link. Only the opening bracket, 
not the opening bracket. Adding a space, e.g., [
www.fubar.com ] does not fix the problem.




3.  
If I wanted to disable automatic link conversion in creation of the PDF (yet 
maintain conversion of manually created hypertext markers), where and
 how would I do this?




Thanks,
 
-Dan




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RE: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

2015-04-02 Thread Harding, Dan 
Well in all fairness, that was 5 years and 3 versions ago. (a) I can’t remember 
that far back, and (b) who knows, the process/settings may have changed in the 
interim.

-Dan

From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 3:03 PM
To: Harding, Dan; framers
Subject: Re: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

On 2015-Apr-02 3:37 PM, Harding, Dan wrote:
Version: FrameMaker 12, Unstructured.

When generating PDFs, Frame automatically converts (SOME!) URLs to hyperlinks, 
which is great, but it’s not an exact science, and I’d like to be able to fine 
tune some things globally rather than manually inserting and editing a zillion 
hypertext links:


1.  Frame recognizes www. (without an http:// 
prefix) as a URL and converts it to a link. Fine. Spiffy. How do I get it to 
automatically recognize non-www domains, e.g. bit.ly, tinyurl.com, etc.? Where 
is this automatic conversion controlled?



2.  Our formatting is such that we put urls in brackets, e.g., 
[www.fubar.com]. Problem: Frame automatically appends the 
closing bracket to the URL when creating the link, which of course breaks the 
link. Only the opening bracket, not the opening bracket. Adding a space, e.g., 
[ www.fubar.com ] does not fix the problem.



3.  If I wanted to disable automatic link conversion in creation of the PDF 
(yet maintain conversion of manually created hypertext markers), where and how 
would I do this?


Thanks,

-Dan


Hi Dan,

Seems you've run into this before!  
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-September/021218.html

HTH,


--

Stuart Rogers

Technical Communicator

Phoenix Geophysics Limited

3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3

Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5

+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325



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Re: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

2015-04-02 Thread Stuart Rogers 

On 2015-Apr-02 3:37 PM, Harding, Dan wrote:


Version: FrameMaker 12, Unstructured.

When generating PDFs, Frame automatically converts (SOME!) URLs to 
hyperlinks, which is great, but it’s not an exact science, and I’d 
like to be able to fine tune some things globally rather than manually 
inserting and editing a zillion hypertext links:


1.Frame recognizes www.  (without an 
http:// prefix) as a URL and converts it to a link. Fine. Spiffy. How 
do I get it to automatically recognize non-www domains, e.g. bit.ly, 
tinyurl.com, etc.? Where is this automatic conversion controlled?


2.Our formatting is such that we put urls in brackets, e.g., 
[www.fubar.com]. Problem: Frame automatically appends the closing 
bracket to the URL when creating the link, which of course breaks the 
link. Only the opening bracket, not the opening bracket. Adding a 
space, e.g., [ www.fubar.com  ] does not fix the 
problem.


3.If I wanted to disable automatic link conversion in creation of the 
PDF (yet maintain conversion of manually created hypertext markers), 
where and how would I do this?


Thanks,

-Dan




Hi Dan,

Seems you've run into this before! 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-September/021218.html


HTH,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

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RE: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

2015-04-02 Thread Rick Quatro 
Hi Dan,

 

Actually, FrameMaker has nothing to do with the conversion of URLs to links;
it is done by Acrobat. It can be disabled in Acrobat's Preferences dialog
box under the General pane (uncheck Create links from URLs). The best
approach is to add Hypertext markers and character formatting to the URLs in
FrameMaker. This gives you control over what becomes a link, etc.

 

If you are interested in automating this, please contact me offlist. It can
be done with either ExtendScript (FrameMaker 10 and above) or FrameScript.
If you can provide a decent sample document, I may be able to do this as
part of my upcoming FrameMaker ExtendScript webinar. Thanks.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harding, Dan
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 3:38 PM
To: framers
Subject: Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

 

Version: FrameMaker 12, Unstructured.

 

When generating PDFs, Frame automatically converts (SOME!) URLs to
hyperlinks, which is great, but it's not an exact science, and I'd like to
be able to fine tune some things globally rather than manually inserting and
editing a zillion hypertext links:

 

1.   Frame recognizes www. (without an http:// prefix) as a URL
and converts it to a link. Fine. Spiffy. How do I get it to automatically
recognize non-www domains, e.g. bit.ly, tinyurl.com, etc.? Where is this
automatic conversion controlled?

2.   Our formatting is such that we put urls in brackets, e.g.,
[www.fubar.com]. Problem: Frame automatically appends the closing bracket to
the URL when creating the link, which of course breaks the link. Only the
opening bracket, not the opening bracket. Adding a space, e.g., [
www.fubar.com ] does not fix the problem.

3.   If I wanted to disable automatic link conversion in creation of the
PDF (yet maintain conversion of manually created hypertext markers), where
and how would I do this?

Thanks,

 

-Dan

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Controlling FrameMaker automatic link generation

2015-04-02 Thread Harding, Dan 
Version: FrameMaker 12, Unstructured.

When generating PDFs, Frame automatically converts (SOME!) URLs to hyperlinks, 
which is great, but it's not an exact science, and I'd like to be able to fine 
tune some things globally rather than manually inserting and editing a zillion 
hypertext links:


1.   Frame recognizes www. (without an http:// 
prefix) as a URL and converts it to a link. Fine. Spiffy. How do I get it to 
automatically recognize non-www domains, e.g. bit.ly, tinyurl.com, etc.? Where 
is this automatic conversion controlled?


2.   Our formatting is such that we put urls in brackets, e.g., 
[www.fubar.com]. Problem: Frame automatically appends the closing bracket to 
the URL when creating the link, which of course breaks the link. Only the 
opening bracket, not the opening bracket. Adding a space, e.g., [ 
www.fubar.com ] does not fix the problem.


3.   If I wanted to disable automatic link conversion in creation of the 
PDF (yet maintain conversion of manually created hypertext markers), where and 
how would I do this?

Thanks,

-Dan
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Baltimore area FrameMaker opportunities

2015-04-02 Thread Craig Ede 
If any of you have any information or tips about FrameMaker opportunities in 
the Baltimore, Maryland area, please let me know about them offlist.

The wife of "a friend" just got a job offer there.

Thank you.

Craig
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