RE: Utility for Book-Level Searches for Tracked Text Edits
Right! Of course. = Mike B -Original Message- From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:35 AM To: mbrad...@techpubs.com; Framers Subject: Re: Utility for Book-Level Searches for Tracked Text Edits I don't use the tracked changes, but I think it creates change bars. If so, you should be able to do a book-level search for the change bars. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 26-Apr-10 10:10 PM, mbrad...@techpubs.com wrote: Is there a utility/plug-in that does book-level searches for tracked edits in FM 8? It's darned annoying to have to open and search each file separately. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Utility for Book-Level Searches for Tracked Text Edits
-Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lief Erickson Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:05 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Utility for Book-Level Searches for Tracked Text Edits If you are using Special Track Text Edits, there is no change bar automatically. You must have change bars turned on, too. That's two things to turn on/off/clear. With lots of files that quickly becomes a hassle. Special Track Text Edits uses two hidden conditional text settings to show what was added or deleted. This has no change bar. And you can't search for these using Find, but you can locate them with the Track Edit tool bar or using this shortcut Esc s t n. Format Document Change Bars shows that something on the line changed, but isn't specific about what changed. Can be searched for using the Find dialog though. Pick your poison. -Lief [MB] Right. Having to use both the change bars and tracking is a nuisance, but at least you can toggle the change bars at the book level after you've used them to locate the tracked edits. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Running Headers
We had a somewhat similar problem, but with document names. We finally defined a variable for each doc name and imported all the variables into all our files. You might have to do the same sort of thing for the chapter titles in each manual; there might be a slicker way to go, but this way would certainly work. = mike bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Utility for Book-Level Searches for Tracked Text Edits
Right! Of course. = Mike B > -Original Message- > From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmuelw1 at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:35 AM > To: mbradley at techpubs.com; Framers > Subject: Re: Utility for Book-Level Searches for Tracked Text Edits > > I don't use the tracked changes, but I think it creates change bars. If > so, you should be able to do a book-level search for the change bars. > > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > On 26-Apr-10 10:10 PM, mbradley at techpubs.com wrote: > > Is there a utility/plug-in that does book-level searches for tracked > > edits in FM 8? It's darned annoying to have to open and search each file > > separately. > > > > = Mike Bradley > > www.techpubs.com
Utility for Book-Level Searches for Tracked Text Edits
> -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Lief Erickson > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:05 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Utility for Book-Level Searches for Tracked Text Edits > > If you are using Special > Track Text Edits, there is no change bar automatically. You must have > change bars turned on, too. That's two things to turn on/off/clear. With lots of files that > quickly becomes a hassle. > > Special > Track Text Edits uses two hidden conditional text settings to show what was added or > deleted. This has no change bar. And you can't search for these using Find, but you can locate > them with the Track Edit tool bar or using this shortcut Esc s t n. > > Format > Document > Change Bars shows that something on the line changed, but isn't > specific about what changed. Can be searched for using the Find dialog though. > > Pick your poison. > > -Lief [MB] Right. Having to use both the change bars and tracking is a nuisance, but at least you can toggle the change bars at the book level after you've used them to locate the tracked edits.
Running Headers
We had a somewhat similar problem, but with document names. We finally defined a variable for each doc name and imported all the variables into all our files. You might have to do the same sort of thing for the chapter titles in each manual; there might be a slicker way to go, but this way would certainly work. = mike bradley www.techpubs.com
RE: Online help generator using FM8
My current client uses Flare. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jim Owens Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:55 AM To: Stalwarts Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Online help generator using FM8 Besides Webworks Publisher, other options include Mif2Go (which we use) -- fast, powerful, highly configurable, extensively documented, and reasonably priced, but better for those with some scripting or programming experience; and Adobe RoboHelp (included with FrameMaker in Adobe's Technical Suite for Communications) -- intended for easy integration, but not as flexible as the other two. Stalwarts wrote: Hi - Can you list me the popular publishing tools for Online help generation using Framemaker 8? - Nithin ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mbrad...@techpubs.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mbradley%40techpubs.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Online help generator using FM8
My current client uses Flare. > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Jim Owens > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:55 AM > To: Stalwarts > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Online help generator using FM8 > > Besides Webworks Publisher, other options include Mif2Go (which we use) > -- fast, powerful, highly configurable, extensively documented, and > reasonably priced, but better for those with some scripting or > programming experience; and Adobe RoboHelp (included with FrameMaker in > Adobe's Technical Suite for Communications) -- intended for easy > integration, but not as flexible as the other two. > > Stalwarts wrote: > > Hi - > > Can you list me the popular publishing tools for Online help generation > > using Framemaker 8? > > > > - Nithin > > ___ > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as mbradley at techpubs.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mbradley%40techpubs.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: framers Digest, Vol 54, Issue 19
However, I finally cured it by completely deleting the following directory structure (which Frame 9 then recreates the next time you fire it up) (you will need to set Windows to show the hidden folder Application Data): C:\Documents and Settings\your_user_name\Application Data\Adobe This is the first solid solution that I've read about. The Adobe support people don't seem to know about it. They had no solution when I tried to install FM 9. I finally gave up, got a refund, and went back to FM 8. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
framers Digest, Vol 54, Issue 19
> However, I finally cured it by completely deleting the following directory > structure (which Frame 9 then recreates the next time you fire it up) (you > will need to set Windows to show the hidden folder "Application Data"): > > C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Adobe This is the first solid solution that I've read about. The Adobe support people don't seem to know about it. They had no solution when I tried to install FM 9. I finally gave up, got a refund, and went back to FM 8. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
RE: Generated TOC entries appear in wrong chapter
NOTE: This assumes that you didn't just add the chapter title text frame to the body page instead of the master page. If you did that, you'll have to reapply the First master page to fix it. [MB] Why is the chapter title in a text frame in the first place? Are you using effects that can't be created by character and paragraph tags? = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Generated TOC entries appear in wrong chapter
> NOTE: This assumes that you didn't just add the chapter title text frame to the body page > instead of the master page. If you did that, you'll have to reapply the First master page to fix it. [MB] Why is the chapter title in a text frame in the first place? Are you using effects that can't be created by character and paragraph tags? = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
RE: FM 8 - Can't Delete Color Definitions
This works, for sure. Thanks. Mif2go's MIF Wash might do nothing more than automate the same process. = Mike -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joy Kocar Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:56 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 8 - Can't Delete Color Definitions I've had problems with color definitions and this really worked: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/323/323771.html Joy On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:30 PM, mbrad...@techpubs.com wrote: Windows XP Service Pack 3 FrameMaker 8 Hi, I have some FM files that were created in Word some time ago, then imported into FM more recently. In FM, we were able to remove all the artifacts from Word except for the color definitions. We are not using any of the Word colors in the FM files, but we can't delete them from the files' color catalogs, either. The colors are listed in the Color Definitions window and in the Character Designer window. They are labeled RGB RGB_number, such as RGB 177,197,218. The usual FM procedure for deleting colors simply doesn't work; nor did Toolbox (it threw errors -17 and 12). It appears that the Word colors are embedded in the FM files in a unique way that prevents them from being deleted. Any ideas on how we can delete them? = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com -- Joy Kocar, EIT Technical Writer, Instructional Designer www.maptek.com +1-303-763-4919 ext 178 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mbrad...@techpubs.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mbradley%40techpubs.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 8 - Can't Delete Color Definitions
This works, for sure. Thanks. Mif2go's MIF Wash might do nothing more than automate the same process. = Mike -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joy Kocar Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:56 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 8 - Can't Delete Color Definitions I've had problems with color definitions and this really worked: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/323/323771.html Joy On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:30 PM, wrote: > Windows XP Service Pack 3 > FrameMaker 8 > > Hi, > > I have some FM files that were created in Word some time ago, then > imported into FM more recently. > > In FM, we were able to remove all the artifacts from Word except for the > color definitions. We are not using any of the Word colors in the FM > files, but we can't delete them from the files' color catalogs, either. > The colors are listed in the Color Definitions window and in the > Character Designer window. They are labeled "RGB ", such as > RGB 177,197,218. The usual FM procedure for deleting colors simply > doesn't work; nor did Toolbox (it threw errors -17 and 12). > > It appears that the Word colors are embedded in the FM files in a unique > way that prevents them from being deleted. Any ideas on how we can > delete them? > > = Mike Bradley > www.techpubs.com > > -- Joy Kocar, EIT Technical Writer, Instructional Designer www.maptek.com +1-303-763-4919 ext 178 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mbradley at techpubs.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mbradley%40techpubs.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: question about overrides
If I'm writing a typical user manual, my preferred solution for pagination overrides is to float tables and figures. Floating rarely produces pagination problems--that's the main purpose of floating, as far as I can tell. I give tables and figures numbered titles and I'm careful to cite each one in the text, whether by Xref alone or with an explanation of their contents, so that the reader can find it (floating is an option for tables but not frames, so I put all graphics in tables). Some clients are uncomfortable with floating. They insist that the table or figure must appear directly before or after the text to which they refer, but I've never had a user complain about it. Floating moves the table only a page away. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Floating figures and tables was RE: question about overrides
Floating figures and tables are useful for automating page breaks, but I too have encountered people who insist that the figure must always immediately follow the reference. Can anyone help me understand where this rule originated? I don’t know where the rule came from. Probably from the same people who said there needs to be lots of white space. I generally follow the usual tech doc rules, but I know, too, that other kinds of publications don’t follow them at all and their readers do fine. There’s very little white space in books yet people have managed to learn from books for a few years. Magazines place illustrations every which where, but their readers manage to understand them. Newspapers and magazines even use, gasp!, multi-column layouts. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
question about overrides
If I'm writing a typical user manual, my preferred solution for pagination overrides is to float tables and figures. Floating rarely produces pagination problems--that's the main purpose of floating, as far as I can tell. I give tables and figures numbered titles and I'm careful to cite each one in the text, whether by Xref alone or with an explanation of their contents, so that the reader can find it (floating is an option for tables but not frames, so I put all graphics in tables). Some clients are uncomfortable with floating. They insist that the table or figure must appear directly before or after the text to which they refer, but I've never had a user complain about it. Floating moves the table only a page away. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
Floating figures and tables was RE: question about overrides
> Floating figures and tables are useful for automating page breaks, but I too > have encountered people who insist that the figure must always immediately > follow the reference. Can anyone help me understand where this rule > originated? I don?t know where the rule came from. Probably from the same people who said there needs to be lots of white space. I generally follow the usual tech doc rules, but I know, too, that other kinds of publications don?t follow them at all and their readers do fine. There?s very little white space in books yet people have managed to learn from books for a few years. Magazines place illustrations every which where, but their readers manage to understand them. Newspapers and magazines even use, gasp!, multi-column layouts. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
RE: Import Formats - Document Properties List
Get ImportFormatsSpecial from Carmen Publishing. It's a low-cost replacement for the standard Import Formats window that gives you complete control over everything that can be imported. It comes in very handy when I have to update only one or two formats, such as user variables, without changing other formats. = mike bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Import Formats - Document Properties List
Get ImportFormatsSpecial from Carmen Publishing. It's a low-cost replacement for the standard Import Formats window that gives you complete control over everything that can be imported. It comes in very handy when I have to update only one or two formats, such as user variables, without changing other formats. = mike bradley www.techpubs.com
RE: How FM use impacts purchasing decisions
Um ... All of the Office 2007 software (including Project and Visio and Groove, etc.) works perfectly fine on my Windows XP system (and on my Vista system, of course). I should have written more clearly. It's not that Office 2007 doesn't run on an XP system, it's that it has the (abominable) Vista GUI, the default XML-whatever output, etc. Avoiding the OS is only half the battle; you have to avoid Office, as well. = Mike ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
How FM use impacts purchasing decisions
> Um ... All of the Office 2007 software (including Project and Visio and > Groove, etc.) works perfectly fine on my Windows XP system (and on my > Vista system, of course). I should have written more clearly. It's not that Office 2007 doesn't run on an XP system, it's that it has the (abominable) Vista GUI, the default XML-whatever output, etc. Avoiding the OS is only half the battle; you have to avoid Office, as well. = Mike
RE: How to automatically import index and cross-reference entries from Word 7 to FM 7.2 or 8?
You don't have to do anything. FM will pick them up.
The Xrefs are no problem at all. They will be either of these Xref formats:
Imported Format PageNum, Xref$pagenum
Imported Format ParaText, Xref$paratext
The index entries are a problem, but the solution is easy.
For every index entry in the Word document, FM creates a separate Index marker.
That's fine. But when it puts the markers in the FM file, it stacks them one on
top of the other instead one after the other. As a result, when you view text
symbols in FM, you see only one marker character. When you select it, you can
select only the marker that's on top of the stack; finding and editing the
markers under the top marker is a chore.
For instance, suppose the Word doc has two index terms in a paragraph: {XE
evaluation versions} {XE versions, evaluation}. FM would make two Index
markers and stack them on one top of the other. You could select only the first
entry's marker character when you viewed text symbols.
The only way to find a particular marker in a stack of markers is to search for
the marker text, if you know it, or locate the term in the index file and jump
to it.
My solution was to combine the stacked markers in the MIF file. It goes fairly
quickly. The stacked markers appear next to each other in the MIF code and can
be edited. For instance, this is the code for two stacked markers:
Marker
MType 2
MTypeName `Index'
MText `evaluation versions'
MCurrPage `1'
Unique 998679
# end of Marker
Marker
MType 2
MTypeName `Index'
MText `versions: evaluation'
MCurrPage `1'
Unique 998680
# end of Marker
It can be edited to this:
Marker
MType 2
MTypeName `Index'
MText `evaluation versions; versions: evaluation'
MCurrPage `1'
Unique 998679
# end of Marker
The result is a single Index marker in the FM that combines the two entries,
making them much easier to find and edit.
The index plugins that one can use with FM address this problem, but my clients
haven't wanted to use the plugins, so I improvised the MIF solution.
= Mike Bradley
www.techpubs.com
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How to automatically import index and cross-reference entries from Word 7 to FM 7.2 or 8?
You don't have to do anything. FM will pick them up.
The Xrefs are no problem at all. They will be either of these Xref formats:
Imported Format PageNum, <$pagenum>
Imported Format ParaText, <$paratext>
The index entries are a problem, but the solution is easy.
For every index entry in the Word document, FM creates a separate Index marker.
That's fine. But when it puts the markers in the FM file, it stacks them one on
top of the other instead one after the other. As a result, when you view text
symbols in FM, you see only one marker character. When you select it, you can
select only the marker that's on top of the stack; finding and editing the
markers under the top marker is a chore.
For instance, suppose the Word doc has two index terms in a paragraph: {XE
"evaluation versions"} {XE "versions, evaluation"}. FM would make two Index
markers and stack them on one top of the other. You could select only the first
entry's marker character when you viewed text symbols.
The only way to find a particular marker in a stack of markers is to search for
the marker text, if you know it, or locate the term in the index file and jump
to it.
My solution was to combine the stacked markers in the MIF file. It goes fairly
quickly. The stacked markers appear next to each other in the MIF code and can
be edited. For instance, this is the code for two stacked markers:
> # end of Marker
> # end of Marker
It can be edited to this:
> # end of Marker
The result is a single Index marker in the FM that combines the two entries,
making them much easier to find and edit.
The index plugins that one can use with FM address this problem, but my clients
haven't wanted to use the plugins, so I improvised the MIF solution.
= Mike Bradley
www.techpubs.com
RE: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document
It embarasses me to say, this, really it does, but … I looked in the Office online help!!! To enter a Unicode character, enter codeALT+X. For instance, to type €, the Euro symbol, type 20ac then press ALT+X. It works in Office 2007; I don't know about earlier versions. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document
It embarasses me to say, this, really it does, but ? I looked in the Office online help!!! To enter a Unicode character, enter ALT+X. For instance, to type ?, the Euro symbol, type "20ac" then press ALT+X. It works in Office 2007; I don't know about earlier versions. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
RE: Marketing a product: which language for the documentation
Assuming the GPS product will be marketed to general consumers, it would have to be translated. And you're right to ask if the European Union has regulations. I don't know if they do, but I wouldn't be surprised. I imagine there's an EU web site with the answer. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Marketing a product: which language for the documentation
Assuming the GPS product will be marketed to general consumers, it would have to be translated. And you're right to ask if the European Union has regulations. I don't know if they do, but I wouldn't be surprised. I imagine there's an EU web site with the answer. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
RE: Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was Re: defaultreply-to-all ]
May I simply suggest that you and Paul (and others who want that e-mail client behavior) simply do a Reply to All *each and every time* you want to reply to a Frame Users List message, and you will get the effect you want? Actually, it doesn't give us the effect we want at all. Not that I'm religious about it, but with Reply to All, the sender of the message to which I reply gets two copies, one sent to him/her and one to the list. This doubles the Internet traffic needlessly, whereas Reply to List sends only one message. Sometimes, as with this message, it quadruples the Internet traffic, because there were 3 cc's on the posting. Personally, I find getting duplicate replies annoying and I think sending them is rude, but if everyone who posts messages doesn't mind getting duplicate replies, so be it. Does this list have a moderator? Could you poll the list so that we can settle this the democratic way? = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was "Re: default"reply-to-all" "]
> May I simply suggest that you and Paul (and others who want that e-mail > client behavior) simply do a "Reply to All" *each and every time* you > want to reply to a Frame Users List message, and you will get the effect > you want? Actually, it doesn't give us the effect we want at all. Not that I'm religious about it, but with Reply to All, the sender of the message to which I reply gets two copies, one sent to him/her and one to the list. This doubles the Internet traffic needlessly, whereas Reply to List sends only one message. Sometimes, as with this message, it quadruples the Internet traffic, because there were 3 cc's on the posting. Personally, I find getting duplicate replies annoying and I think sending them is rude, but if everyone who posts messages doesn't mind getting duplicate replies, so be it. Does this list have a moderator? Could you poll the list so that we can settle this the democratic way? = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
RE: default reply-to-all (was Re: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available (POSSIBLE WORKAROUND))
Hedley is not asking for a reply-to-all. What he, I and, no doubt, others want is reply-to-list. In other words, when you click your Reply button, by default, messages are addressed to the list. I've been using lists since 1993 and running several since 1996, and Framers is the only list I've ever come across that works this way. Replying to list messages should be simple - click Reply and the addressing is done. The current setup is cumbersome and has tripped many of us up. If someone wants to reply privately, they will naturally be more careful and double-check the To address. I totally agree. Reply to List should be the default. It's a list, for goodness sake. It's supposed to go to everyone. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
The tutorials are already on the web, Lester. You may have to search for them a bit. I no longer have the URLs. Maybe others on this list do. And as another poster replied, it's essential that everyone who touches a Word doc knows how to handle the numbering (and uses the same Word template). = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
MS Word Numbering (was RE: FrameMaker uses)
The tutorials are already on the web, Lester. You may have to search for them a bit. I no longer have the URLs. Maybe others on this list do. And as another poster replied, it's essential that everyone who touches a Word doc knows how to handle the numbering (and uses the same Word template). = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com > I for one would appreciate understanding the 'proper' way to handle > numbering in Word. For me, it would help to fix garbaged numbers in > document I receive to convert to SGML - numbering is an issue because if > it's wrong, the structure requires a lot of manual correction.
RE: Framemaker Uses
I've used FM to write training documents for my union. I can't do it as much as I'd like to because, of course, not many folks have FM and they wouldn't be able to maintain the docs. But the union has a group of tech writer members, so when I write for them, I can use it. - Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
best method to store template version
If it's version number and date, you want it to be imported when you import the template. And handy for those wanting to check it. So I'd put it in a User Variable. The template author would have to remember to update the variable when s/he edited the template, but for everyone else the transfer of the information would be transparent and easily accessible. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com
