Re: realistic expectations in Pune, India

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MIF reference for FM 11 and 12

2014-03-14 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi All,

These documents are now online.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/mifreference/mifref.pdf  - FM 12 MIF
Reference


http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/11.0/FrameMaker/11.0/MIFReference/mifref.pdf
- FM 11 MIF Reference


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Re: MIF reference for FM 11 and 12

2014-03-14 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Thanks Simon!


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Simon BUCH simon.b...@m-ais.com wrote:

  Thanks for the notification on this.

 The FM11 MIF reference guide is actually located:
 http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/11.0/MIFReference/mifref.pdf

 Regards
 // Simon BUCH -- M-AIS


 On 14/03/2014 14:54, Gyanesh Talwar wrote:

 Hi All,

  These documents are now online.

 http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/mifreference/mifref.pdf  - FM 12
 MIF Reference


 http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/11.0/FrameMaker/11.0/MIFReference/mifref.pdf
  - FM 11 MIF Reference

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Re: Conditional text - looks like there are some big differences between 9 and 12

2014-03-12 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi David,

This page should help you understand states of conditional tags in FM 12:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSF778A159-48A7-4f26-B04E-79509DDB38E8.html

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On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:37 AM, David Downing david.h.down...@gmail.comwrote:

 That tutorial for FarmeMaker 9 has been working pretty well for me until
 now, because there appear to be some big differences in the interface for
 conditional text tags. The tutorial for FM9 says to click the Apply button
 at the top of the list of tags and select the in radio button -- but
 neither of these things are included on that window for 12. Also, FM 12
 includes a State check box that isn't in the FM9 interface. Is anyone
 familiar enough with FM12 to straighten me out?

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Re: Conditional build expressions?

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FrameMaker 10 licensing "fix"...

2013-01-02 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Thanks Scott.

This does the trick for me.

Regards,
Gyanesh


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Scott Prentice  wrote:

>  Here's one option for a temporary solution to this problem until Adobe
> provides a real fix. Just create the following batch file and put it in the
> FM folder and set up a shortcut to this batch file. It grabs the current
> date, changes the date to 2012, runs FM, then resets the date. You do have
> to "Press any key" at the PAUSE prompt so that FM has a chance to start up.
> There are ways to make this more elegant, but this seems to provide a
> reasonable workaround. If you're on Win7 or Vista, you'll likely need to
> run this "As Administrator".
>
> IMPORTANT: Use this "fix" at your own risk. I offer no warranty of fitness
> whatsoever!
>
> -
> @echo off
> rem ** get current date **
> for /f "tokens=2-4 delims=/ " %%a in ('date /T') do set year=%%c
> for /f "tokens=2-4 delims=/ " %%a in ('date /T') do set month=%%a
> for /f "tokens=2-4 delims=/ " %%a in ('date /T') do set day=%%b
> rem ** set bogus date **
> date 01-12-2012
> rem ** run framemaker **
> start framemaker.exe
> rem ** wait till FM starts **
> pause
> rem ** reset current date **
> date %day%-%month%-%year%
> --
>
> Cheers,
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Re: FrameMaker 10 licensing fix...

2013-01-01 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Thanks Scott.

This does the trick for me.

Regards,
Gyanesh


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com wrote:

  Here's one option for a temporary solution to this problem until Adobe
 provides a real fix. Just create the following batch file and put it in the
 FM folder and set up a shortcut to this batch file. It grabs the current
 date, changes the date to 2012, runs FM, then resets the date. You do have
 to Press any key at the PAUSE prompt so that FM has a chance to start up.
 There are ways to make this more elegant, but this seems to provide a
 reasonable workaround. If you're on Win7 or Vista, you'll likely need to
 run this As Administrator.

 IMPORTANT: Use this fix at your own risk. I offer no warranty of fitness
 whatsoever!

 -
 @echo off
 rem ** get current date **
 for /f tokens=2-4 delims=/  %%a in ('date /T') do set year=%%c
 for /f tokens=2-4 delims=/  %%a in ('date /T') do set month=%%a
 for /f tokens=2-4 delims=/  %%a in ('date /T') do set day=%%b
 rem ** set bogus date **
 date 01-12-2012
 rem ** run framemaker **
 start framemaker.exe
 rem ** wait till FM starts **
 pause
 rem ** reset current date **
 date %day%-%month%-%year%
 --

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Hello

2012-07-27 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi Mike,

Thanks for the encouraging words.

It may not be judicious of me to make big commitments, but the effort going
forward is going to be close to the things you have mentioned.

About Hunspell and Proximity dictionaries, I initially thought that these
are more like plugins that exist out of FrameMaker too, so their
explanation may not be a critical requirement. But since users like
yourself are looking for this information, let me add details about these
two dictionaries soon in documentation.

Your feedback is valuable. I'll first do something about the specifics you
have pointed out. But going forward, I'll keep in mind that I include
things that you have asked for.

Regards,
Gyanesh





On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Mike Wickham  wrote:

> Hi, Gyanesh,
>
> We are glad to have you participating here! In fact, since FM development
> moved to India, it has been nice to see that several members of the team
> have become active in the community and responsive to it. Thanks!
>
> One shortcoming that I have always found in Adobe documentation (and not
> just FM documentation) is that it so often fails to document some things
> that should obviously, and by default, be covered. For example, EVERY menu
> command, EVERY preference setting, and EVERY dialog option should be well
> described. Yet, these are often completely omitted from the help files.
>
> For example, FM11's Reviewer's Guide says that FM11 now includes a
> Hunspell dictionary option in preferences, in addition to the Proximity
> dictionary. But looking at the new FM11 online help, I searched for
> "Hunspell" and nothing could be found on it. There appears to be no
> information to tell users why they would choose one dictionary over the
> other. This is a preference setting, so it should be described in help.
>
> The Reviewer's Guide also talks about "Improved handling of placed
> graphics," and mentions the new "**RemoveGeneratedFacetsForTypes=**"
> setting in maker.ini. But searching online help for that setting turns up
> nothing. (Perhaps it is documented in maker.ini itself, but I'm still on
> FM10 and don't currently have FM11 to look.)
>
> The Reviewer's Guide also mentions, under "New Equations and Anchored
> Frame behavior," that anchored frames are now saved as individual MIF
> files, but there is a setting to revert to previous behavior: "**
> DefaultvVectorFormatForXMLExpo**rt=CGM". Again, a help search for this
> setting turns up nothing.
>
> Which reminds me, one thing FM help has always lacked is full
> documentation of maker.ini settings. Every setting in maker.ini should be
> documented. Some are documented in help. Some are documented in maker.ini
> itself (though often poorly). Many settings are documented in the
> Customizing_Frame_Products.**pdf-- but, if I recall correctly, that file
> is no longer included on distribution disks, so many FM users don't even
> know that it exists! (And the downloadable version that exists is labeled
> as for FM7!) But many settings remain completely undocumented, including
> settings that, by default, are not included in maker.ini. So users don't
> know the settings are available.
>
> I would also add that, while I do see the advantages of online
> documentation being updatable and searchable, I miss printed documentation.
> The nice thing about a printed version is you can sit down with a manual
> and just read it to learn about things you wouldn't have thought to browse
> for in help. Adobe should consider creating print-on-demand (POD) versions
> of its documentation to satisfy that need. I think they may have done this
> previously with Creative Suite documentation. There was a time you could
> order printed copies of CS documentation in the Adobe Store-- though often
> a ridiculous six months or more after the product release! I used to order
> those when they were available.
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Hello

2012-07-25 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi All,

I am thrilled to be writing to the group where I have learned so much.

I have been documenting FrameMaker for over one year now. I hope to get
your valuable feedback on FrameMaker 11 and FrameMaker Publishing Server
(yes, FrameMaker Server's new name) user guide.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/server/index.html

I am sure the passionate Frame users\developers have a lot to say. :)

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Hello

2012-07-25 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi All,

I am thrilled to be writing to the group where I have learned so much.

I have been documenting FrameMaker for over one year now. I hope to get
your valuable feedback on FrameMaker 11 and FrameMaker Publishing Server
(yes, FrameMaker Server's new name) user guide.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/server/index.html

I am sure the passionate Frame users\developers have a lot to say. :)

Regards,

Gyanesh Talwar
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Re: Diff/Merge tool

2011-10-24 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Doug,

Unstructured FrameMaker 10 is compatible with Sharepoint and Documentum for
diff and other versioning features:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html

With structured FrameMaker, the possibilities are much more. If you use
XML/DITA roundtripping, SVN will manage those files excellently. Just like
the code, multiple people will be able to work on the same files.

You can try doing a pilot  - it will give you a good idea if moving to
structured FrameMaker makes sense for you.


Cheers,
Gyanesh



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 McKinney, Doug wrote:

  Our Tech Pubs department (as well as our firmware group) are in the
  process of converting our versioning application from Visual
  SourceSafe to TortoiseSVN. I am looking for a Diff/Merge tool that is
  compatible with FrameMaker 9.

 There is none... Which is ok because when you add a Framemaker file to your
 Subversion repository, it'll be treated as a binary file and SVN won't
 diff/merge it anyway.

 SVN allows multiple developers to simultaneously modify line-based
 source-code files, but it will not allow multiple developers to
 simultaneously modify Framemaker files.  Under SVN, your editing process
 will be as it was under VSS: Frame files will be editable by only one person
 at a time.

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Diff/Merge tool

2011-10-24 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Doug,

Unstructured FrameMaker 10 is compatible with Sharepoint and Documentum for
diff and other versioning features:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html

With structured FrameMaker, the possibilities are much more. If you use
XML/DITA roundtripping, SVN will manage those files excellently. Just like
the code, multiple people will be able to work on the same files.

You can try doing a pilot  - it will give you a good idea if moving to
structured FrameMaker makes sense for you.


Cheers,
Gyanesh



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> McKinney, Doug wrote:
>
> > Our Tech Pubs department (as well as our firmware group) are in the
> > process of converting our versioning application from Visual
> > SourceSafe to TortoiseSVN. I am looking for a Diff/Merge tool that is
> > compatible with FrameMaker 9.
>
> There is none... Which is ok because when you add a Framemaker file to your
> Subversion repository, it'll be treated as a binary file and SVN won't
> diff/merge it anyway.
>
> SVN allows multiple developers to simultaneously modify line-based
> source-code files, but it will not allow multiple developers to
> simultaneously modify Framemaker files.  Under SVN, your editing process
> will be as it was under VSS: Frame files will be editable by only one person
> at a time.
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Re: Frame 8 crashing on opening

2011-10-11 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Ed,

Are you saying FrameMaker is crashing on launch everytime?

The following may just help:

Rename %appdata%\Adobe\*Linguistic* folder to any other name and relaunch
FM.

Regards,
Gyanesh


On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Ed Marshall ed.marsh...@verizon.netwrote:

 All,

 Any suggestions for this problem out of the blue?

 Internal Error 8004, 7072680, 7074223, 6295985. FrameMaker has detected a
 serious problem and must quit.

 FM 8 didn't crash with an open file previously. It was working fine until
 today. Now, it won't open either on several different FM files or just
 standalone.

 Hadn't changed anything Frame related recently. My os is Windows 7 64-bit
 Ultimate Edition.

 I uninstalled FM 8 and reinstalled.

 Still getting this error. Frame 10 does open fine but my client only has 8
 and they don't want to upgrade (not in the budget).

 Haven't had any issues in months w/ FM.

 Googled but haven't found anything that worked. Can't open Frame so several
 tricks can't be tried (like the corrupt user.dict).

 Suggestions?

 Thx,

 Ed


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Frame 8 crashing on opening

2011-10-11 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Ed,

Are you saying FrameMaker is crashing on launch everytime?

The following may just help:

Rename %appdata%\Adobe\*Linguistic* folder to any other name and relaunch
FM.

Regards,
Gyanesh


On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Ed Marshall wrote:

> All,
>
> Any suggestions for this problem out of the blue?
>
> Internal Error 8004, 7072680, 7074223, 6295985. FrameMaker has detected a
> serious problem and must quit.
>
> FM 8 didn't crash with an open file previously. It was working fine until
> today. Now, it won't open either on several different FM files or just
> standalone.
>
> Hadn't changed anything Frame related recently. My os is Windows 7 64-bit
> Ultimate Edition.
>
> I uninstalled FM 8 and reinstalled.
>
> Still getting this error. Frame 10 does open fine but my client only has 8
> and they don't want to upgrade (not in the budget).
>
> Haven't had any issues in months w/ FM.
>
> Googled but haven't found anything that worked. Can't open Frame so several
> tricks can't be tried (like the corrupt user.dict).
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thx,
>
> Ed
>
>
> Ed Marshall
>
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Re: Fm 10: Show Element Descriptive Tags

2011-10-08 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Yves,

This option is supposed to display definitions of the tags in the element
catalog. But you first need to insert these definitions in the structure.

Here's more about it:

http://blogs.adobe.com/tcs/2011/04/framemaker/framemaker-element-description.html

Regards,
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 Fm 10  Element Catalog Display Options: what is the option Show Element
 Descriptive Tags supposed to do?

 It's not explained in the Fm 10 Help (or I am unable to find it, but that
 applies to almost anything I search for in this Help).

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Fm 10: Show Element Descriptive Tags

2011-10-08 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Yves,

This option is supposed to display definitions of the tags in the element
catalog. But you first need to insert these definitions in the structure.

Here's more about it:

http://blogs.adobe.com/tcs/2011/04/framemaker/framemaker-element-description.html

Regards,
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> Fm 10 > Element Catalog Display Options: what is the option "Show Element
> Descriptive Tags" supposed to do?
>
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To Find+Replace on a text and its Paragraph tag to convert it to another Paragraph tag

2009-05-25 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Avraham,

You need Silicon Prairie's paragraph tool:

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Downloads.html

It will help you Find+Replace multiple para tags in one go.

Regards,
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On 5/24/09, Avraham Makeler  wrote:
>
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> How can I Find+Replace on a text and its Paragraph tag to convert it to
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Re: To Find+Replace on a text and its Paragraph tag to convert it to another Paragraph tag

2009-05-24 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Avraham,

You need Silicon Prairie's paragraph tool:

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Downloads.html

It will help you Find+Replace multiple para tags in one go.

Regards,
Gyanesh

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 Hi all,
 How can I Find+Replace on a text and its Paragraph tag to convert it to
 another Paragraph tag (but keep the original text)?

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Re: The case of dancing drop-downs

2008-09-25 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi Framers,
This is my second mail on this subject. See for yourself what my dancing
drop-downs look like:

http://www.screencast.com/users/Gyanesh_Talwar/folders/Jing/media/53131363-8f83-408e-ac20-6d0a334ba7af


I suspect this is a mouse issue more than a Frame issue. But I want to check
if anyone else also has faced it and if there is any fix to this.

Regards,
Gyanesh



On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Gyanesh Talwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi All,

 Frame 7.2b128
 Lenovo Thinkpad T61
 Windows XP

 I see the drop downs dancing (blinking) when I expand them in a particular
 template. As soon as I expand a drop-down, such as para formats and roll my
 mouse over it, it starts blinking. Is this a template specific problem?

 Anyone else also faced it?

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The case of dancing drop-downs

2008-09-25 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi Framers,
This is my second mail on this subject. See for yourself what my dancing
drop-downs look like:

http://www.screencast.com/users/Gyanesh_Talwar/folders/Jing/media/53131363-8f83-408e-ac20-6d0a334ba7af


I suspect this is a mouse issue more than a Frame issue. But I want to check
if anyone else also has faced it and if there is any fix to this.

Regards,
Gyanesh



On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Gyanesh Talwar wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Frame 7.2b128
> Lenovo Thinkpad T61
> Windows XP
>
> I see the drop downs dancing (blinking) when I expand them in a particular
> template. As soon as I expand a drop-down, such as para formats and roll my
> mouse over it, it starts blinking. Is this a template specific problem?
>
> Anyone else also faced it?
>
> Regards,
>
>


Re: Cross references in a text inset

2008-08-20 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Thanks all for the replies.

So this indeed is a bug. Thanks for the workarounds.

Regards,
Gyanesh

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Combs, Richard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Gyanesh Talwar wrote:

  I have a text inset with cross references in it (the destination of
 cross
  refs also is in the same text inset.). When I generate a PDF, the
 cross
  references do not work, the hypertext in the inset works though. After
  converting the text inset into text and then writing the PDF, the
 cross
  references start working in the PDF.
 
  Am I supposed to convert the text inset to text or am I missing
 something
  here? Is there another way to make the cross references work?

 Yep, that's the workaround for this particular bug:

 1. Save all files in the book.
 2. Convert all text insets to text.
 3. Create PDF.
 4. Close all files *without saving*.

 Step 4 is, of course, critical. If you have FrameScript, the whole
 process can be automated. If you have to do it manually, be careful and
 consider working on copies of your files.

 Richard


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Cross references in a text inset

2008-08-20 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Thanks all for the replies.

So this indeed is a bug. Thanks for the workarounds.

Regards,
Gyanesh

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Combs, Richard
wrote:

> Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
>
> > I have a text inset with cross references in it (the destination of
> cross
> > refs also is in the same text inset.). When I generate a PDF, the
> cross
> > references do not work, the hypertext in the inset works though. After
> > converting the text inset into text and then writing the PDF, the
> cross
> > references start working in the PDF.
> >
> > Am I supposed to convert the text inset to text or am I missing
> something
> > here? Is there another way to make the cross references work?
>
> Yep, that's the workaround for this particular bug:
>
> 1. Save all files in the book.
> 2. Convert all text insets to text.
> 3. Create PDF.
> 4. Close all files *without saving*.
>
> Step 4 is, of course, critical. If you have FrameScript, the whole
> process can be automated. If you have to do it manually, be careful and
> consider working on copies of your files.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
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> 303-777-0436
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Cross references in a text inset

2008-08-18 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi All,

I have a text inset with cross references in it (the destination of cross
refs also is in the same text inset.). When I generate a PDF, the cross
references do not work, the hypertext in the inset works though. After
converting the text inset into text and then writing the PDF, the cross
references start working in the PDF.

Am I supposed to convert the text inset to text or am I missing something
here? Is there another way to make the cross references work?

TIA,
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Cross references in a text inset

2008-08-18 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi All,

I have a text inset with cross references in it (the destination of cross
refs also is in the same text inset.). When I generate a PDF, the cross
references do not work, the hypertext in the inset works though. After
converting the text inset into text and then writing the PDF, the cross
references start working in the PDF.

Am I supposed to convert the text inset to text or am I missing something
here? Is there another way to make the cross references work?

TIA,
Gyanesh


The case of dancing drop-downs

2008-08-11 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi All,

Frame 7.2b128
Lenovo Thinkpad T61
Windows XP

I see the drop downs dancing (blinking) when I expand them in a particular
template. As soon as I expand a drop-down, such as para formats and roll my
mouse over it, it starts blinking. Is this a template specific problem?

Anyone else also faced it?

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The case of dancing drop-downs

2008-08-11 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi All,

Frame 7.2b128
Lenovo Thinkpad T61
Windows XP

I see the drop downs dancing (blinking) when I expand them in a particular
template. As soon as I expand a drop-down, such as para formats and roll my
mouse over it, it starts blinking. Is this a template specific problem?

Anyone else also faced it?

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Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)

2007-06-07 Thread Gyanesh Talwar

Thanks again Scott!

Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other
components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes
in system variables.

Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations...
DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are
pointing to the right locations.

When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related)
components are loaded.

I am trying to generate output from the ditafm.ditamap file...
haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open...
and just select Generate Output then also it crashes!

Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my
colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time.

Thanks for your patience! :)

Cheers,
Gyanesh



On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Gyanesh...

Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you
were using the Build FM book from ditamap (yeah, I know you clearly
said the Generate Output command). What happens if you save the map
before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the
file was unsaved. Also, you can say No to the OK to save dialog ..
try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that
there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like.

Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the
Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the
corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in
the console window?

Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the
App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit
installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate
Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no
CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack.

You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group
(http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the
forum where these things are discussed more regularly.

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
 Hey Scott.. thanks again.

 And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier.

 But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to
 say Generate Output and I hear that loud thud... everytime!

 I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine.

 But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA
 application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking
 because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development
 team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just
 asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support...
 one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack.

 Regards,
 Gyanesh

 On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Gyanesh...

  I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it ..
 you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd
 problems with the version you're using.


 
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows


 ...scott


 Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting
  this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup.
 
  7.2b144
  OT 1.2.2
 
  I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test
  example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame
  Application Pack for DITA PDF.
 
  However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the
  Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0.
 
  I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more
  room, but it did not help.
 
  Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and
  other plugins help?
 
  Thanks in Advance,
 
  Gyanesh
 









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Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)

2007-06-07 Thread Gyanesh Talwar

It worked! I can create CHM and HTML now.

Just implemented the same things on a fresh machine.

I tried the tutorial example, as well as created a new DITAMAP.

On my machine, it's probably conflicting with other DLLs, as I have
other plug-ins installed.

My next worry: the number of elements in DITA are too many. Can I just
go and delete un-necessary elements?

Regards,
Gyanesh


On 6/7/07, Gyanesh Talwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks again Scott!

Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other
components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes
in system variables.

Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations...
DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are
pointing to the right locations.

When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related)
components are loaded.

I am trying to generate output from the ditafm.ditamap file...
haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open...
and just select Generate Output then also it crashes!

Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my
colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time.

Thanks for your patience! :)

Cheers,
Gyanesh



On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Gyanesh...

 Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you
 were using the Build FM book from ditamap (yeah, I know you clearly
 said the Generate Output command). What happens if you save the map
 before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the
 file was unsaved. Also, you can say No to the OK to save dialog ..
 try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that
 there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like.

 Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the
 Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the
 corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in
 the console window?

 Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the
 App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit
 installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate
 Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no
 CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack.

 You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group
 (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the
 forum where these things are discussed more regularly.

 ...scott

 Scott Prentice
 Leximation, Inc.
 www.leximation.com
 +1.415.485.1892



 Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
  Hey Scott.. thanks again.
 
  And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier.
 
  But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to
  say Generate Output and I hear that loud thud... everytime!
 
  I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine.
 
  But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA
  application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking
  because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development
  team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just
  asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support...
  one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack.
 
  Regards,
  Gyanesh
 
  On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Gyanesh...
 
   I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it ..
  you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd
  problems with the version you're using.
 
 
  
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows
 
 
  ...scott
 
 
  Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting
   this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup.
  
   7.2b144
   OT 1.2.2
  
   I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test
   example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame
   Application Pack for DITA PDF.
  
   However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the
   Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0.
  
   I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more
   room, but it did not help.
  
   Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and
   other plugins help?
  
   Thanks in Advance,
  
   Gyanesh
  
 
 
 
 




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Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)

2007-06-07 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hey Scott.. thanks again.

And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier.

But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to
say "Generate Output" and I hear that loud thud... everytime!

I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine.

But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA
application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking
because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development
team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just
asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support...
one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack.

Regards,
Gyanesh

On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice  wrote:
> Hi Gyanesh...
>
>  I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it ..
> you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd
> problems with the version you're using.
>
>
> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows
>
> ...scott
>
>
> Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting
> > this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup.
> >
> > 7.2b144
> > OT 1.2.2
> >
> > I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the "test"
> > example, as explained in Adobe's "Using the DITA OT with Frame
> > Application Pack for DITA" PDF.
> >
> > However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the
> > Ditamap file and Crashes ? citing "7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0."
> >
> > I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more
> > room, but it did not help.
> >
> > Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and
> > other plugins help?
> >
> > Thanks in Advance,
> >
> > Gyanesh
> >
>
>


-- 
  Gyanesh Talwar
|~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~|
"Bunbu Itchi"
|~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~|



Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)

2007-06-07 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Thanks again Scott!

Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other
components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes
in system variables.

Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations...
DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are
pointing to the right locations.

When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related)
components are loaded.

I am trying to generate output from the "ditafm.ditamap" file...
haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open...
and just select "Generate Output" then also it crashes!

Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my
colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time.

Thanks for your patience! :)

Cheers,
Gyanesh



On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice  wrote:
> Hi Gyanesh...
>
> Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you
> were using the "Build FM book from ditamap" (yeah, I know you clearly
> said the "Generate Output" command). What happens if you save the map
> before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the
> file was unsaved. Also, you can say "No" to the "OK to save" dialog ..
> try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that
> there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like.
>
> Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the
> Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the
> corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in
> the console window?
>
> Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the
> App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit
> installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate
> Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no
> CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack.
>
> You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group
> (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the
> forum where these things are discussed more regularly.
>
> ...scott
>
> Scott Prentice
> Leximation, Inc.
> www.leximation.com
> +1.415.485.1892
>
>
>
> Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
> > Hey Scott.. thanks again.
> >
> > And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier.
> >
> > But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to
> > say "Generate Output" and I hear that loud thud... everytime!
> >
> > I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine.
> >
> > But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA
> > application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking
> > because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development
> > team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just
> > asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support...
> > one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gyanesh
> >
> > On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice  wrote:
> >> Hi Gyanesh...
> >>
> >>  I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it ..
> >> you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd
> >> problems with the version you're using.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows
> >>
> >>
> >> ...scott
> >>
> >>
> >> Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting
> >> > this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup.
> >> >
> >> > 7.2b144
> >> > OT 1.2.2
> >> >
> >> > I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the "test"
> >> > example, as explained in Adobe's "Using the DITA OT with Frame
> >> > Application Pack for DITA" PDF.
> >> >
> >> > However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the
> >> > Ditamap file and Crashes ? citing "7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0."
> >> >
> >> > I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more
> >> > room, but it did not help.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and
> >> > other plugins help?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in Advance,
> >> >
> >> > Gyanesh
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
  Gyanesh Talwar
|~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~|
"Bunbu Itchi"
|~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~|



Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)

2007-06-07 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
It worked! I can create CHM and HTML now.

Just implemented the same things on a fresh machine.

I tried the tutorial example, as well as created a new DITAMAP.

On my machine, it's probably conflicting with other DLLs, as I have
other plug-ins installed.

My next worry: the number of elements in DITA are too many. Can I just
go and delete un-necessary elements?

Regards,
Gyanesh


On 6/7/07, Gyanesh Talwar  wrote:
> Thanks again Scott!
>
> Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other
> components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes
> in system variables.
>
> Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations...
> DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are
> pointing to the right locations.
>
> When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related)
> components are loaded.
>
> I am trying to generate output from the "ditafm.ditamap" file...
> haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open...
> and just select "Generate Output" then also it crashes!
>
> Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my
> colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time.
>
> Thanks for your patience! :)
>
> Cheers,
> Gyanesh
>
>
>
> On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice  wrote:
> > Hi Gyanesh...
> >
> > Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you
> > were using the "Build FM book from ditamap" (yeah, I know you clearly
> > said the "Generate Output" command). What happens if you save the map
> > before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the
> > file was unsaved. Also, you can say "No" to the "OK to save" dialog ..
> > try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that
> > there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like.
> >
> > Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the
> > Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the
> > corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in
> > the console window?
> >
> > Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the
> > App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit
> > installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate
> > Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no
> > CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack.
> >
> > You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group
> > (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the
> > forum where these things are discussed more regularly.
> >
> > ...scott
> >
> > Scott Prentice
> > Leximation, Inc.
> > www.leximation.com
> > +1.415.485.1892
> >
> >
> >
> > Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
> > > Hey Scott.. thanks again.
> > >
> > > And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier.
> > >
> > > But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to
> > > say "Generate Output" and I hear that loud thud... everytime!
> > >
> > > I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine.
> > >
> > > But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA
> > > application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking
> > > because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development
> > > team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just
> > > asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support...
> > > one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Gyanesh
> > >
> > > On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice  wrote:
> > >> Hi Gyanesh...
> > >>
> > >>  I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it ..
> > >> you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd
> > >> problems with the version you're using.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ...scott
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
> > >> > Hi All,
> > >> >
> > >> > Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting
> > >> > this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup.
> > >> >
> > >

Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)

2007-06-06 Thread Gyanesh Talwar

Hey Scott.. thanks again.

And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier.

But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to
say Generate Output and I hear that loud thud... everytime!

I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine.

But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA
application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking
because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development
team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just
asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support...
one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack.

Regards,
Gyanesh

On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Gyanesh...

 I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it ..
you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd
problems with the version you're using.


http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows

...scott


Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
 Hi All,

 Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting
 this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup.

 7.2b144
 OT 1.2.2

 I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test
 example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame
 Application Pack for DITA PDF.

 However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the
 Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0.

 I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more
 room, but it did not help.

 Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and
 other plugins help?

 Thanks in Advance,

 Gyanesh






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Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)

2007-06-04 Thread Gyanesh Talwar

Hi All,

Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting
this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup.

7.2b144
OT 1.2.2

I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test
example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame
Application Pack for DITA PDF.

However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the
Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0.

I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more
room, but it did not help.

Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and
other plugins help?

Thanks in Advance,

Gyanesh
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Re: PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?

2007-05-26 Thread Gyanesh Talwar

Thanks Scott, Jeremy, and Linda,

Based on your advise, I've played around with conditional text a
little and my doubts are cleared.

One last question:
What is the best resource for Frame + DITA?

Regards,
Gyanesh

On 5/21/07, Linda G. Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've admittedly missed the beginning of this thread, but I would like to
comment on this:

The Index Tools Pro plug-in claims to provide for conditional index
entries .. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but it may perhaps
make the process of conditionalizing individual markers easier.

I've used this plug-in with conditions, and it does work to essentially
apply a condition to index markers. You can also use variables in index
entries with Index Tools Pro.

I'm just a satisfied user.


~
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TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 3:20 PM
To: Jeremy H. Griffith
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?

Thanks Jeremy .. good point! Now that I read what I wrote, I can see how
it could be misunderstood. I meant that even if you do duplicate and
conditionalize markers just to change one word in that marker, it will
become a mess to manage.  :)

The Index Tools Pro plugin claims to provide for conditional index
entries .. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but it may perhaps
make the process of conditionalizing individual markers easier. Our
plugin, MarkerTools, lets you insert a custom building block into
markers which maps to variables that are defined in your document .. in
essence allowing you to have variables within markers (not possible
without the plugin). This can give you a type of conditional control
within a marker (especially when used in conjunction with BookVars).

..scott


Jeremy H. Griffith wrote:
 On Sun, 20 May 2007 13:30:45 -0700, Scott Prentice wrote:


 It's a good practice to avoid conditional content within
 index entries .. it's one thing to include/exclude a marker
 in a specific output, but if you start messing with words
 within a marker, you'll go nuts.


 It's not only good practice, it's the law.  ;-)

 Frame *implements* conditional text using markers.  So it's
 flat-out impossible to conditionalize *within* a marker.
 As Scott says, the closest you can get to that is:


 you'd need to create duplicate markers with different text,
 and conditionalize each marker accordingly. However this
 is difficult to maintain ...



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PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?

2007-05-26 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Thanks Scott, Jeremy, and Linda,

Based on your advise, I've played around with conditional text a
little and my doubts are cleared.

One last question:
What is the best resource for Frame + DITA?

Regards,
Gyanesh

On 5/21/07, Linda G. Gallagher  wrote:
> I've admittedly missed the beginning of this thread, but I would like to
> comment on this:
>
>  entries" .. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but it may perhaps
> make the process of conditionalizing individual markers easier.>
>
> I've used this plug-in with conditions, and it does work to essentially
> apply a condition to index markers. You can also use variables in index
> entries with Index Tools Pro.
>
> I'm just a satisfied user.
>
>
> ~
> Linda G. Gallagher
> TechCom Plus, LLC
> lindag at techcomplus dot com
> www.techcomplus.com
> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
> User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
> WebWorks ePublisher templates
> 
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 3:20 PM
> To: Jeremy H. Griffith
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?
>
> Thanks Jeremy .. good point! Now that I read what I wrote, I can see how
> it could be misunderstood. I meant that even if you do duplicate and
> conditionalize markers just to change one word in that marker, it will
> become a mess to manage.  :)
>
> The Index Tools Pro plugin claims to provide for "conditional index
> entries" .. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but it may perhaps
> make the process of conditionalizing individual markers easier. Our
> plugin, MarkerTools, lets you insert a custom "building block" into
> markers which maps to variables that are defined in your document .. in
> essence allowing you to have variables within markers (not possible
> without the plugin). This can give you a type of conditional control
> within a marker (especially when used in conjunction with BookVars).
>
> ..scott
>
>
> Jeremy H. Griffith wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 May 2007 13:30:45 -0700, Scott Prentice wrote:
> >
> >
> >> It's a good practice to avoid conditional content within
> >> index entries .. it's one thing to include/exclude a marker
> >> in a specific output, but if you start messing with words
> >> within a marker, you'll go nuts.
> >>
> >
> > It's not only good practice, it's the law.  ;-)
> >
> > Frame *implements* conditional text using markers.  So it's
> > flat-out impossible to conditionalize *within* a marker.
> > As Scott says, the closest you can get to that is:
> >
> >
> >> you'd need to create duplicate markers with different text,
> >> and conditionalize each marker accordingly. However this
> >> is difficult to maintain ...
> >>
> >
> >
> > -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
> > http://www.omsys.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?

2007-05-20 Thread Gyanesh Talwar

Thanks Scott!

I think i will settle for show/hide. And if I do, is there a way to
handle index/toc/variables (such as name of the book) automatically?
Or do I do that manually?

And let's say I have to implement DITA. Can I still publish two
different PDFs selectively? And how will I carry out the selection of
text in Structured Frame?

Thanks again!

Gyanesh


On 5/18/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Gyanesh...

If your main goal is to publish two different sets of content from the
same FM source files, I'd think that your best bet is to just use
conditional text (show/hide) in unstructured FM files. There are
probably benefits you could gain by moving to structure and/or DITA (and
it can certainly be done with structure/DITA), but for what you're
talking about, conditional text is really all you need. Just create two
conditional tags and apply those tags to the content that is only for
one product or the other (just don't overlap conditions) .. anything
that is common to both would be left untagged. Use the conditional text
show/hide settings to show one and hide the other, then generate your PDF.

Cheers!

...scott



Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
 Hello Framers,

 (Frame 7.2b144)

 For my product, I have 2 guides with similar content across different
 chapters. Can I publish two different PDFs from the same source (with
 selective content obviously).

 - How will this be done? Using topic IDs?
 - Is Show/hide a better option for this than Structured Frame?
 - Is it viable to use DITA for this? Some other EDD ...or custome made?

 TIA,
 Gyanesh









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PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?

2007-05-20 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Thanks Scott!

I think i will settle for show/hide. And if I do, is there a way to
handle index/toc/variables (such as name of the book) automatically?
Or do I do that manually?

And let's say I have to implement DITA. Can I still publish two
different PDFs selectively? And how will I carry out the selection of
text in Structured Frame?

Thanks again!

Gyanesh


On 5/18/07, Scott Prentice  wrote:
> Hi Gyanesh...
>
> If your main goal is to publish two different sets of content from the
> same FM source files, I'd think that your best bet is to just use
> conditional text (show/hide) in unstructured FM files. There are
> probably benefits you could gain by moving to structure and/or DITA (and
> it can certainly be done with structure/DITA), but for what you're
> talking about, conditional text is really all you need. Just create two
> conditional tags and apply those tags to the content that is only for
> one product or the other (just don't overlap conditions) .. anything
> that is common to both would be left untagged. Use the conditional text
> show/hide settings to show one and hide the other, then generate your PDF.
>
> Cheers!
>
> ...scott
>
>
>
> Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
> > Hello Framers,
> >
> > (Frame 7.2b144)
> >
> > For my product, I have 2 guides with similar content across different
> > chapters. Can I publish two different PDFs from the same source (with
> > selective content obviously).
> >
> > -> How will this be done? Using topic IDs?
> > -> Is Show/hide a better option for this than Structured Frame?
> > -> Is it viable to use DITA for this? Some other EDD ...or custome made?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Gyanesh
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?

2007-05-18 Thread Gyanesh Talwar

Hello Framers,

(Frame 7.2b144)

For my product, I have 2 guides with similar content across different
chapters. Can I publish two different PDFs from the same source (with
selective content obviously).

- How will this be done? Using topic IDs?
- Is Show/hide a better option for this than Structured Frame?
- Is it viable to use DITA for this? Some other EDD ...or custome made?

TIA,
Gyanesh
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PDF Content reuse with Frame + DITA?

2007-05-18 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hello Framers,

(Frame 7.2b144)

For my product, I have 2 guides with similar content across different
chapters. Can I publish two different PDFs from the same source (with
selective content obviously).

-> How will this be done? Using topic IDs?
-> Is Show/hide a better option for this than Structured Frame?
-> Is it viable to use DITA for this? Some other EDD ...or custome made?

TIA,
Gyanesh



Conversion Table again : How to handle Root Element

2006-11-18 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Hi Framers,

Further to my mail on element ,  I've brought down my document and
EDD to three elements to zero-in on the problem and I believe it is about
Root Element not being handled.

In Frame 7.0:

EDD   Document


Chapter (Root Element)
 -ChapterNameChapterName
 -Overview   Overview
 -Para Para

In the conversion table, all elements are mapped to the proper para format
except the root element (Chapter). Apparently, the root element chapter is
not being handled and in place of that  is appearing. I can fix it
by Re-Wrapping the elements in the document but am not able to figure out
how I can avoid this problem altogether.

I am aware that in Frame 7.2, this can be handled with RE: , which is not
working in 7.0.

Please suggest.

Gyanesh Talwar

"Bunbu Itchi"



Conversion Table Error: Element comes out of nowhere

2006-11-09 Thread Gyanesh Talwar
Framers,

For a proof-of-concept, I am trying to convert a small unstructured document
to structured using conversion table and a basic EDD.

Although the conversion table is getting created perfectly, but when I apply
this conversion table to the document, the element  is getting
inserted at the top and spoiling everything.

What am I doing wrong?

The EDD is as follows:

EDD Version is 7.0
Automatically create formats on import.
Element (Container): Chapter
General rule:ChapterInfo, (Overview, Para), Para+,  (Option, Para,
Procedure)+
Valid as the highest-level element.
~~
Element (Container): ChapterInfo
General rule:ChapterNumber,ChapterName
Element (Container): ChapterNumber
General rule:
Text format rules
In all contexts.
~~
Use paragraph format: ChapterNumber
Element (Container): ChapterName
General rule:
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: ChapterName
~~
Element (Container): Overview
General rule:
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Overview
~~
Element (Container): Option
General rule:
Text format rules
Element paragraph format:
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Option
~~
Element (Container): Procedure
General rule:NumberedIntro,Step1,Step+
~~
Element (Container): NumberedIntro
General rule:
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: NumberedIntro
~~
Element (Container): Step1
General rule:
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Numbered1
~~
Element (Container): Step
General rule:
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Numbered
~~
Element (Container): Para
General rule:
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Body

Regards,
Gyanesh Talwar

"Bunbu Itchi"