Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-12 Thread Mike Wickham
Yes, it can still be an issue on Windows, if you are unaware of the steps necessary to prevent automatic conversion from CMYK to RGB. The latest versions of FrameMaker have improved CMYK support built-in, but there are still reports of it being tricky. So I have stuck with using EPS for

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-11 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 20:03 -0500 9/9/16, Mike Wickham wrote: >EPS is also the only way to keep Windows GDI from automatically converting >CMYK graphics to RGB. If your destination is printing press, CMYK is preferred >over RGB. EPS was also the only way to keep Windows from converting Pantone >colors to RGB.

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-09 Thread Mike Wickham
FrameMaker is an old program and EPS is an old all-purpose kind of format. It acts as an envelope for both vector and bitmap graphics, without automatically converting vector to bitmap. If you want maximum resolution on printing press, vector is preferable for line drawings because it is

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-09 Thread Craig Ede
). Craig From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:40 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Q

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-09 Thread Robert Lauriston
I don't like to give people bad advice, especially when it involves giving a big chunk of money to Adobe or Microsoft. On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Writer wrote: > Lately, every time I'm tempted to waste brain cells pondering why people do > stuff the way they do, I go

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-09 Thread Writer
ists.frameusers.com> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question If the source is in EPS and you don't have the originals, or the EPS files were created by somebody who thought that was a reasonable source format, that explains the odd requireme

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-09 Thread Robert Lauriston
If the source is in EPS and you don't have the originals, or the EPS files were created by somebody who thought that was a reasonable source format, that explains the odd requirement. It's kind of like having only PDFs and not the original source. On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Tammy Van

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-09 Thread Tammy Van Boening
] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 9:47 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question I'm still wondering why EPS is a requirement. That's not normally a source format, and as an exported format there's not usually no reason to prefer

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-09 Thread Tammy Van Boening
* com -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 5:59 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question I'd

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-09 Thread Robert Lauriston
I'm still wondering why EPS is a requirement. That's not normally a source format, and as an exported format there's not usually no reason to prefer it to alternatives. On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 6:32 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > Thanks All. I purchased a legal

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-09 Thread Art Campbell
2016 11:14 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question > > Xara may have issues with EPS. > > http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?66467-EPS-in-Designer-Pro-X9 > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain <sye

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-08 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 11:14 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question Xara may have issues with EPS. http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?66467-EPS-in-Designer-Pro-X9 On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-08 Thread Art Campbell
Subscription is $10 a month for Photoshop (and Lightroom, if you need/want it). Seriously not a big deal and cheaper and more reliable than the regular licenses, speaking after several year's experience as a beta and real user. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion,

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-08 Thread Tammy Van Boening
: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 2:17 AM To: Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question I read on inkscape's website that there is a plug

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-08 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I read on inkscape's website that there is a plug-in to open EPS files. -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 058-763-7133 On 07-Sep-16 7:53 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: Inkscape can't open EPS files, so you have to convert them:

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
sday, September 07, 2016 9:38 AM > To: Tammy Van Boening; 'Framers List' > Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question > > Tammy, Photoshop really isn't set up to handle vector graphics, such as line > drawings. But it can handle and output photos and screen captures. I use > both b

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
Xara may have issues with EPS. http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?66467-EPS-in-Designer-Pro-X9 On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > I highly recommend the Xara products. I use their image editing and video > products with good results. I

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
I highly recommend the Xara products. I use their image editing and video products with good results. I switched to their perpetual licensed tools when Adobe went cloud licensed based. Z Get Outlook for Android On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:05 AM -0700, "Shmuel Wolfson"

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
I don't know about Illustrator, but Photoshop CS 6 was the last one before Creative Cloud, as I recall. Z Get Outlook for Android On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 7:10 AM -0700, "Tammy Van Boening" > wrote:

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
Creative Suite 6 was the last version for which Adobe sells perpetual licenses. You can still download it and buy a license from Adobe but only by phone. https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/cs6-product-downloads.html On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Craig, Alison

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Craig, Alison
acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:25 AM To: 'Carol J. Elkins'; 'Framers List' Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question Thank you everyone. This list is invaluable. OK, I understand all the ins an

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Tammy Van Boening
. Thank you everyone again. TVB -Original Message- From: Carol J. Elkins [mailto:celk...@awrittenword.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 9:38 AM To: Tammy Van Boening; 'Framers List' Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question Tammy, Photoshop really isn't set up to handle vector

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
Inkscape can't open EPS files, so you have to convert them: https://inkscape.org/en/learn/faq/#how-to-open-eps-files-in-windows http://kristarella.com/2010/03/edit-eps-files-in-inkscape-on-mac Then exporting to EPS when you're done is problematic:

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Scott Prentice
I'd take a good look at Inkscape. It probably does all you need, is a good vector graphics editor, and is free (open source) .. https://inkscape.org/ Between PS and AI, you'd want to use AI for EPS. Assuming you're using EPS because you want vector graphics, AI is a vector graphics

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
Illustrator is for vector graphics, Photoshop is for bitmaps. EPS is a vector format, so you should use Illustrator to edit it. You can sort of edit EPS in Photoshop, but not really. If you really need to edit EPS, I would not mess around with anything but Illustrator. Is that really a hard

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Inkscape is free vector-based drawing program that can save as EPS. https://inkscape.org/en/ Xara is a cheap vector-based drawing program that can save as EPS. http://www.xara.com/eu/photo-graphic-designer/features/ -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 058-763-7133 On 07-Sep-16 4:36 PM, Tammy

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Tammy, Photoshop really isn't set up to handle vector graphics, such as line drawings. But it can handle and output photos and screen captures. I use both but prefer Illustrator. Illustrator's native .ai format is the same as .eps. I import .ai photos by reference into Framemaker and it works

Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-07 Thread Tammy Van Boening
What were the last versions of Photoshop and AI that were sold with a perpetual license before they got sucked up into this subscription mode as part of CS? Thank you! TVB -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On