Re: What end product should i give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what???
FrameMaker 11 and 12 have RoboHelp's core feature set built in, so they can generate HTML web help and EPUB without any additional software. You can avoid the IE security message for local HTML files by using the Add Mark of the Web option: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/robohelp/robohtml/WS1A5EA425-79A0-42b9-B53C-8C8C5E9BE0B4.html Help for tablet apps is usually HTML or PDF. You can experiment with EPUB but you'll probably find it's inferior. On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com wrote: As I mentioned some time ago, I am finally moving to a new computer. I tried to install on Windows 7, but the patch for Frame 7 wouldn't install, so I am working with virtual XP. I have Frame 7, and ePublisher pro version 9 build 5737 (maybe I have a patch for that too, as I thought I have version 9.2) As well as the PDF user guides which they want, I also create for them .chm files for one sort of application (which runs on C++) and html files in the format of WebWorks Help 5. These html files have a security message when you try to open them and only open in IE. The company has 2 applications which run on the person's computer, and all the others run in a web browser integrated with IBM Cognos. They are talking about soon making their applications available on a Tablet. I would like to request new versions of the software, but I would also like to make the ROI for this. i.e. I need to tell them that with the new software I can give them something better. I think that I would like to give ePub for when they use a tablet. For the html files, which application will be easy for me to move to, and what will the advantages be in the end result. Should I still give .chm? Or is something else used now? I am looking for something that is truly single sourcing (Today I just press a button.. once everything was set up). Any more insights etc will be helpful. -- Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Subject: RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what???
Adobe Technical Communications Suite 5 includes FrameMaker 12, RoboHelp 11, Acrobat XI, and Captivate 7. Also Presenter 9, but most people require PowerPoint so that's not adding much value. You can get a 30-day free trial to check it out. Do not import your FrameMaker book(s) into RoboHelp. Link them instead. I created a cheat sheet and sample project for doing that as it was not well documented: http://lauriston.com/fm10_link_to_rh9.zip I believe you can configure RoboHelp to use the same tags and CSH header file you've been using for WebWorks. On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Is Tech Comm Suite, RoboHelp? If so, is this still Single Sourcing, or do you have to fiddle a lot to put into RoboHelp. Thanks Message: 12 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:05:23 + From: Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what??? Message-ID: 8fe367d39ec94cb29af2b36d99d56...@exchmb01.gjonas.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 If you?re already happy with authoring in FM, I?d stick with it. Then I would get the Tech Comm Suite to produce your EPUB output and/or HTML5 responsive help that would work for tablets too ( look much better than an EPUB). Don?t get too suckered in by FM12?s claims that you can publish straight out of FM ? the level of control over output is still being worked on. Try the trial version first on a non-production machine to test it out. -- Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Subject: RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what???
TCS 4 included Illustrator; TCS 3 included Photoshop so or would be the more accurate conjunction. Prior version included neither, if memory serves. C- ..prior versions have included Photoshop and Illustrator... ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Subject: RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what???
TCS2 had Photoshop Bridge as its extras From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede Sent: June-12-14 11:48 AM To: framers Subject: RE: Subject: RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what??? TCS 4 included Illustrator; TCS 3 included Photoshop so or would be the more accurate conjunction. Prior version included neither, if memory serves. C- ..prior versions have included Photoshop and Illustrator... ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Subject: RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what???
Thanks. Is Tech Comm Suite, RoboHelp? If so, is this still Single Sourcing, or do you have to fiddle a lot to put into RoboHelp. Thanks Message: 12 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:05:23 + From: Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what??? Message-ID: 8fe367d39ec94cb29af2b36d99d56...@exchmb01.gjonas.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 If you?re already happy with authoring in FM, I?d stick with it. Then I would get the Tech Comm Suite to produce your EPUB output and/or HTML5 responsive help that would work for tablets too ( look much better than an EPUB). Don?t get too suckered in by FM12?s claims that you can publish straight out of FM ? the level of control over output is still being worked on. Try the trial version first on a non-production machine to test it out. -- Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Subject: RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what???
TCS is a bundle of products that have special integrations to work together over the standalone versions of the software. The lineup keeps changing with each release, but TCS5 has FM12, RH11, Captivate 7, Presenter 9, Acrobat Pro XI – prior versions have included Photoshop and Illustrator. Because I still have to produce PDFs, I use FM for all my content and then import it into RH for producing WebHelp. Very little fiddling needed. From: Carrie Baker [mailto:carrie...@gmail.com] Sent: June-12-14 2:44 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Subject: RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what??? Thanks. Is Tech Comm Suite, RoboHelp? If so, is this still Single Sourcing, or do you have to fiddle a lot to put into RoboHelp. Thanks Message: 12 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:05:23 + From: Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.commailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what??? Message-ID: 8fe367d39ec94cb29af2b36d99d56...@exchmb01.gjonas.commailto:8fe367d39ec94cb29af2b36d99d56...@exchmb01.gjonas.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 If you?re already happy with authoring in FM, I?d stick with it. Then I would get the Tech Comm Suite to produce your EPUB output and/or HTML5 responsive help that would work for tablets too ( look much better than an EPUB). Don?t get too suckered in by FM12?s claims that you can publish straight out of FM ? the level of control over output is still being worked on. Try the trial version first on a non-production machine to test it out. -- Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.commailto:carrie...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
What end product should i give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what???
As I mentioned some time ago, I am finally moving to a new computer. I tried to install on Windows 7, but the patch for Frame 7 wouldn't install, so I am working with virtual XP. I have Frame 7, and ePublisher pro version 9 build 5737 (maybe I have a patch for that too, as I thought I have version 9.2) As well as the PDF user guides which they want, I also create for them .chm files for one sort of application (which runs on C++) and html files in the format of WebWorks Help 5. These html files have a security message when you try to open them and only open in IE. The company has 2 applications which run on the person's computer, and all the others run in a web browser integrated with IBM Cognos. They are talking about soon making their applications available on a Tablet. I would like to request new versions of the software, but I would also like to make the ROI for this. i.e. I need to tell them that with the new software I can give them something better. I think that I would like to give ePub for when they use a tablet. For the html files, which application will be easy for me to move to, and what will the advantages be in the end result. Should I still give .chm? Or is something else used now? I am looking for something that is truly single sourcing (Today I just press a button.. once everything was set up). Any more insights etc will be helpful. -- Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What end product should I give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what???
If you’re already happy with authoring in FM, I’d stick with it. Then I would get the Tech Comm Suite to produce your EPUB output and/or HTML5 responsive help that would work for tablets too ( look much better than an EPUB). Don’t get too suckered in by FM12’s claims that you can publish straight out of FM – the level of control over output is still being worked on. Try the trial version first on a non-production machine to test it out. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carrie Baker Sent: June-11-14 5:40 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: What end product should i give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what??? As I mentioned some time ago, I am finally moving to a new computer. I tried to install on Windows 7, but the patch for Frame 7 wouldn't install, so I am working with virtual XP. I have Frame 7, and ePublisher pro version 9 build 5737 (maybe I have a patch for that too, as I thought I have version 9.2) As well as the PDF user guides which they want, I also create for them .chm files for one sort of application (which runs on C++) and html files in the format of WebWorks Help 5. These html files have a security message when you try to open them and only open in IE. The company has 2 applications which run on the person's computer, and all the others run in a web browser integrated with IBM Cognos. They are talking about soon making their applications available on a Tablet. I would like to request new versions of the software, but I would also like to make the ROI for this. i.e. I need to tell them that with the new software I can give them something better. I think that I would like to give ePub for when they use a tablet. For the html files, which application will be easy for me to move to, and what will the advantages be in the end result. Should I still give .chm? Or is something else used now? I am looking for something that is truly single sourcing (Today I just press a button.. once everything was set up). Any more insights etc will be helpful. -- Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.commailto:carrie...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What end product should i give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what???
Note: I am an MVP with WebWorks (the company that makes ePublisher). Carrie, I recommend that you stick with ePublisher, but upgrade to the latest version. ePublisher now has an HTML 5 output called Reverb. Reverb output is designed to resize on devices of different sizes without you having to use more than one template. That would be a great solution for both your tablet and desktop/browser targets. In addition, you can generate .chm, PDF, Eclipse help, ePub... The down side is that ePublisher does not support FM 7. That doesn't mean that it won't work; it's just not supported. You might want to consider upgrading FM, too. If you have more questions about ePublisher, you can also contact me offline. Nadine From: Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 5:40:10 AM Subject: What end product should i give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what??? As I mentioned some time ago, I am finally moving to a new computer. I tried to install on Windows 7, but the patch for Frame 7 wouldn't install, so I am working with virtual XP. I have Frame 7, and ePublisher pro version 9 build 5737 (maybe I have a patch for that too, as I thought I have version 9.2) As well as the PDF user guides which they want, I also create for them .chm files for one sort of application (which runs on C++) and html files in the format of WebWorks Help 5. These html files have a security message when you try to open them and only open in IE. The company has 2 applications which run on the person's computer, and all the others run in a web browser integrated with IBM Cognos. They are talking about soon making their applications available on a Tablet. I would like to request new versions of the software, but I would also like to make the ROI for this. i.e. I need to tell them that with the new software I can give them something better. I think that I would like to give ePub for when they use a tablet. For the html files, which application will be easy for me to move to, and what will the advantages be in the end result. Should I still give .chm? Or is something else used now? I am looking for something that is truly single sourcing (Today I just press a button.. once everything was set up). Any more insights etc will be helpful. -- Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
