RE: straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
 I don't need any flexibility. These are the only two tags that will ever need 
 icons.

Then, yes, my approach would be overkill for your case, I suppose. :)

FWIW, I have these paragraph formats available in all my documents. Including 
both the auto-number method (and which also involves using side-heads since I 
want the auto-number text to be at the left side of the paragraph) _and_ my 
character format method ... I have been using both for years now.

And, knowledge of the methods might benefit others (perhaps for new documents 
where the work to add them to existing documents is not large), since I have 
had a number of people ask for that sample FM file I had offered in a previous 
response.

Z

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:
 (I am not sure I _entirely_ understand what you mean.)

 If you mean one paragraph format and one character format (if you want to 
 use an icon), then, yes, that is true.

 But my approach gives you more flexibility in one way. Using an autonumber 
 requires a _separate_ paragraph format for each type of icon you want - i.e., 
 each with its own auto-number sequence. That can work, of course, but if you 
 have enough _different_ icons, then my approach is simpler, I believe (as 
 long as the icons are all from in a single given font - like ZapfDingbats for 
 example).


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straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
> I don't need any flexibility. These are the only two tags that will ever need 
> icons.

Then, yes, my approach would be overkill for your case, I suppose. :)

FWIW, I have these paragraph formats available in all my documents. Including 
both the auto-number method (and which also involves using side-heads since I 
want the auto-number "text" to be at the left side of the paragraph) _and_ my 
character format method ... I have been using both for years now.

And, knowledge of the methods might benefit others (perhaps for new documents 
where the work to add them to existing documents is not large), since I have 
had a number of people ask for that sample FM file I had offered in a previous 
response.

Z

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)  wrote:
> (I am not sure I _entirely_ understand what you mean.)
>
> If you mean "one paragraph format" and "one character format" (if you want to 
> use an icon), then, yes, that is true.
>
> But my approach gives you more flexibility in one way. Using an autonumber 
> requires a _separate_ paragraph format for each type of icon you want - i.e., 
> each with its own auto-number sequence. That can work, of course, but if you 
> have enough _different_ icons, then my approach is simpler, I believe (as 
> long as the icons are all from in a single given font - like ZapfDingbats for 
> example).




straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-04 Thread Robert Lauriston
Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.

For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a
table. I want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the
icon appears at the left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in
FrameMaker that's fine.

Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?
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Re: straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-04 Thread Robert Lauriston
Hmmm ... I could do it with Autonumber Format if I could find a
dingbat font with the right icons.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.

 For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a
 table. I want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the
 icon appears at the left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in
 FrameMaker that's fine.

 Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?
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Re: straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-04 Thread Robert Lauriston
OK, Autonumber Format works. Deja Vu Sans has the dingbat, if I set
the character tag to 24 pt and Subscript, it looks about right. I used
the Frame Above Pgf and Frame Below Pgf to add horizontal rules.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 Hmmm ... I could do it with Autonumber Format if I could find a
 dingbat font with the right icons.

 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com 
 wrote:
 Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.

 For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a
 table. I want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the
 icon appears at the left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in
 FrameMaker that's fine.

 Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?
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RE: straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-04 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
I use side-head paragraphs for this purpose all the time. Then I can enter 
whatever I want in the side-head - whether it is a large icon like you asked 
about, or other text (in red for example). With autonumber, you end up having 
to use the same autonumber text.

The process is to set the page format correctly to extend into the side-head 
region, and allow the defined side paragraph to go into the region of the page. 
If you want, I can send a small FrameMaker file along that shows this ...

Z

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Subject: straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no 
tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.

For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a table. I 
want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the icon appears at the 
left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in FrameMaker that's fine.

Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?
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RE: straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-04 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
(I am not sure I _entirely_ understand what you mean.)

If you mean one paragraph format and one character format (if you want to 
use an icon), then, yes, that is true.

But my approach gives you more flexibility in one way. Using an autonumber 
requires a _separate_ paragraph format for each type of icon you want - i.e., 
each with its own auto-number sequence. That can work, of course, but if you 
have enough _different_ icons, then my approach is simpler, I believe (as long 
as the icons are all from in a single given font - like ZapfDingbats for 
example).

Your choice, of course! :)

Z

 That would be two tags. I want just one tag since that's more straightforward 
 for single-sourcing to various outputs.

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:
  I use side-head paragraphs for this purpose all the time. Then I can enter 
  whatever I want in the side-head - whether it is a large icon like you 
  asked about, or other text (in red for example). With autonumber, you end 
  up having to use the same autonumber text.

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straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-04 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
I use side-head paragraphs for this purpose all the time. Then I can enter 
whatever I want in the side-head - whether it is a large icon like you asked 
about, or other text (in red for example). With autonumber, you end up having 
to use the same "autonumber" text.

The process is to set the page format correctly to extend into the side-head 
region, and allow the defined side paragraph to go into the region of the page. 
If you want, I can send a small FrameMaker file along that shows this ...

Z

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Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 11:36 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no 
tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.

For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a table. I 
want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the icon appears at the 
left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in FrameMaker that's fine.

Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?
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straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-04 Thread Robert Lauriston
That would be two tags. I want just one tag since that's more
straightforward for single-sourcing to various outputs.

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)  wrote:
> I use side-head paragraphs for this purpose all the time. Then I can enter 
> whatever I want in the side-head - whether it is a large icon like you asked 
> about, or other text (in red for example). With autonumber, you end up having 
> to use the same "autonumber" text.


straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-04 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
(I am not sure I _entirely_ understand what you mean.)

If you mean "one paragraph format" and "one character format" (if you want to 
use an icon), then, yes, that is true.

But my approach gives you more flexibility in one way. Using an autonumber 
requires a _separate_ paragraph format for each type of icon you want - i.e., 
each with its own auto-number sequence. That can work, of course, but if you 
have enough _different_ icons, then my approach is simpler, I believe (as long 
as the icons are all from in a single given font - like ZapfDingbats for 
example).

Your choice, of course! :)

Z

> That would be two tags. I want just one tag since that's more straightforward 
> for single-sourcing to various outputs.

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)  wrote:
> > I use side-head paragraphs for this purpose all the time. Then I can enter 
> > whatever I want in the side-head - whether it is a large icon like you 
> > asked about, or other text (in red for example). With autonumber, you end 
> > up having to use the same "autonumber" text.



straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-04 Thread Robert Lauriston
I already have a Caution paragraph tag. My goal was to add an icon to
it for PDF output by modifying the tag's format.

Modifying each occurrence of the tag would be a lot more work.

I don't need any flexibility. These are the only two tags that will
ever need icons.

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)  wrote:
> (I am not sure I _entirely_ understand what you mean.)
>
> If you mean "one paragraph format" and "one character format" (if you want to 
> use an icon), then, yes, that is true.
>
> But my approach gives you more flexibility in one way. Using an autonumber 
> requires a _separate_ paragraph format for each type of icon you want - i.e., 
> each with its own auto-number sequence. That can work, of course, but if you 
> have enough _different_ icons, then my approach is simpler, I believe (as 
> long as the icons are all from in a single given font - like ZapfDingbats for 
> example).


straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.

For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a
table. I want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the
icon appears at the left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in
FrameMaker that's fine.

Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?


straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
Hmmm ... I could do it with Autonumber Format if I could find a
dingbat font with the right icons.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Robert Lauriston  
wrote:
> Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.
>
> For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a
> table. I want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the
> icon appears at the left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in
> FrameMaker that's fine.
>
> Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?


straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

2013-06-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
OK, Autonumber Format works. Deja Vu Sans has the dingbat, if I set
the character tag to 24 pt and Subscript, it looks about right. I used
the Frame Above Pgf and Frame Below Pgf to add horizontal rules.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Robert Lauriston  
wrote:
> Hmmm ... I could do it with Autonumber Format if I could find a
> dingbat font with the right icons.
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Robert Lauriston  
> wrote:
>> Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.
>>
>> For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a
>> table. I want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the
>> icon appears at the left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in
>> FrameMaker that's fine.
>>
>> Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?