Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-11 Thread Steve Johnson
r success, it would have been stolen long back > > Regards, > NJ > http://www.neerajjain8.com > > > > > > From: Dov Isaacs > To: "dr_go...@pobox.com" > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Sent: Wed, 11 August, 2010 5:26:02 AM > Subject: RE: Acrobat 9 - a

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-11 Thread Alan T Litchfield
On 11/08/2010, at 11:56 AM, Dov Isaacs wrote: > Steve, > > Read the original thread. I am not going to repeat everything (and... Umm Dov, I had the same reaction as you when I first saw them, I think. But look at the date they were sent (25 July). These were the ones that were sent back the

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-11 Thread Dov Isaacs
ram (often not a very pretty site). - Dov From: Troy Fey [mailto:troy@opinicus.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:25 AM To: Dov Isaacs Cc: dr_go...@pobox.com; Framers E-mail List Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster Dov -- I save all your responses. Thanks for your cont

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-11 Thread Dov Isaacs
ram (often not a very pretty site). - Dov From: Troy Fey [mailto:troy@opinicus.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:25 AM To: Dov Isaacs Cc: dr_gonzo at pobox.com; Framers E-mail List Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster Dov -- I save all your responses. Thanks for your c

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-11 Thread Steve Johnson
r success, it would have been stolen long back > > Regards, > NJ > http://www.neerajjain8.com > > > > > > From: Dov Isaacs > To: "dr_gonzo at pobox.com" > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Sent: Wed, 11 August, 2010 5:26:02 AM > Subject: RE: Acrobat

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-11 Thread Neeraj Jain
Dov Isaacs To: "dr_go...@pobox.com" Cc: Framers E-mail List Sent: Wed, 11 August, 2010 5:26:02 AM Subject: RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster Steve, Read the original thread. I am not going to repeat everything (and it was quite a lot) that was discussed on this forum a few weeks ago, espec

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-11 Thread Neeraj Jain
aacs To: "dr_gonzo at pobox.com" Cc: Framers E-mail List Sent: Wed, 11 August, 2010 5:26:02 AM Subject: RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster Steve, Read the original thread. I am not going to repeat everything (and it was quite a lot) that was discussed on this forum a few weeks ago, espec

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-10 Thread Bill Swallow
> Umm Dov, I had the same reaction as you when I first saw them, I think. But > look at the date they were sent (25 July). These were the ones that were > sent back then. > > Technology is working to raise your blood pressure. Yep, looks like they were delayed from the server, though, because they

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-10 Thread Bill Swallow
> Umm Dov, I had the same reaction as you when I first saw them, I think. But > look at the date they were sent (25 July). These were the ones that were > sent back then. > > Technology is working to raise your blood pressure. Yep, looks like they were delayed from the server, though, because they

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-10 Thread Alan T Litchfield
On 11/08/2010, at 11:56 AM, Dov Isaacs wrote: Steve, Read the original thread. I am not going to repeat everything (and... Umm Dov, I had the same reaction as you when I first saw them, I think. But look at the date they were sent (25 July). These were the ones that were sent back then.

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-10 Thread Dov Isaacs
Johnson > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:10 AM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Show me in writing where Adobe says you should not install the same > version of Reader and Acrobat on the same system. I cannot find it. > It'

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-10 Thread Dov Isaacs
eve Johnson > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:10 AM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Show me in writing where Adobe says you should not install the same > version of Reader and Acrobat on the same system. I cannot find it. > I

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-10 Thread Dov Isaacs
cs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Since when? Is that by design or by accident? Doesn't installing > Acrobat also install Reader? > > How many of my users have Acrobat installed? Of course I want Reader > installed so I can see PDF

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-10 Thread Steve Johnson
as [mailto:g...@hiskeyboard.com] >> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:57 AM >> To: Dov Isaacs >> Cc: Framers E-mail List >> Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster >> >> But, Dov--- >> >> I have both installed so that when a reviewer runs into a problem, I can

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-10 Thread Dov Isaacs
Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Since when? Is that by design or by accident? Doesn't installing > Acrobat also install Reader? > > How many of my users have Acrobat installed? Of course I want Reader > installed so I can see PDF

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-10 Thread Steve Johnson
same version on a system is most unlikely to cause the > symptoms described. > >        - Dov > >> -Original Message- >> From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinask...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:19 AM >> To: Fei Min Lorente >> Cc: Dov

Acrobat 9 a disaster

2010-07-26 Thread Alison White
Just to thanks all who replied to my post. I must've been having one of those Fridays, as part of the mystery is now solved. I am working on a windows machine running XPPro 2002 SP3. When installing Acrobat 9 (v.9.3.3-CPSID_83708), I removed all prior instances of Acrobat and Acrobat Reader as req

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-26 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Tori, > Dov, we use this feature for 'testing' PDFs in which we have enabled > Acrobat Reader rights. We have a lot of clients who simply will not > spend the money to get Acrobat, so either we give them Reader-enabled > PDFs or they send us <> hardcopy edits. No idea why, but > sometime

Discussion of Acrobat & Reader Concurrent Installation (Was: Acrobat 9 - a disaster)

2010-07-26 Thread Alan T Litchfield
invoking rather complex >>> Javascript routines that invoke functions that are allowed in >>> Acrobat but not Reader, other than font issues (you should NEVER, >>> repeat NEVER, repeat once again NEVER generate PDF files with >>> unembedded fonts), you should not see

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-26 Thread ri...@inficon.com
Adobe has never understood how corporate IT departments work, and I've come to realize that Adobe doesn't understand how corporations handle multiple installations of Adobe products across a business network. Adobe is focused solely on one installation on one computer handled by one person who

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-26 Thread rinch
Adobe has never understood how corporate IT departments work, and I've come to realize that Adobe doesn't understand how corporations handle multiple installations of Adobe products across a business network. Adobe is focused solely on one installation on one computer handled by one person who

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-26 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Tori, > Dov, we use this feature for 'testing' PDFs in which we have enabled > Acrobat Reader rights. We have a lot of clients who simply will not > spend the money to get Acrobat, so either we give them Reader-enabled > PDFs or they send us <> hardcopy edits. No idea why, but > sometime

Re: Acrobat 9 a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Alison White
Just to thanks all who replied to my post. I must've been having one of those Fridays, as part of the mystery is now solved. I am working on a windows machine running XPPro 2002 SP3. When installing Acrobat 9 (v.9.3.3-CPSID_83708), I removed all prior instances of Acrobat and Acrobat Reader as req

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Guy K. Haas
But, Dov--- I have both installed so that when a reviewer runs into a problem, I can "see it their way". The interfaces of the two are so different that it's sometimes handy to be able to do this. Would it be any less "NOT RECOMMENDED" if one had the Reader on a removable drive (such as a U

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Steve Johnson
t; and using Firefox 3.6.4 and IE 8. > > Fei Min Lorente > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:39 PM > To: Framers E-mail List >

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Steve Johnson
[mailto:guy at hiskeyboard.com] >> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:57 AM >> To: Dov Isaacs >> Cc: Framers E-mail List >> Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster >> >> But, Dov--- >> >> I have both installed so that when a reviewer runs into a problem, I can

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Tori Muir
In terms of the ability to "see PDFs like they do," having Adobe Reader on the same system as Adobe Acrobat is not going to assist you. In terms of proper engineering and QA discipline, such testing should occur on a system that has only the operating system installed, no "extra fonts" installed

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Tori Muir
> In terms of the ability to "see PDFs like they do," having Adobe Reader > on the same system as Adobe Acrobat is not going to assist you. In terms > of proper engineering and QA discipline, such testing should occur on a > system that has only the operating system installed, no "extra fonts" > i

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Steve Johnson
same version on a system is most unlikely to cause the > symptoms described. > > ? ? ? ?- Dov > >> -Original Message- >> From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinaski69 at gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:19 AM >> To: Fei Min Lorente >> Cc: Dov

Re: Discussion of Acrobat & Reader Concurrent Installation (Was: Acrobat 9 - a disaster)

2010-07-25 Thread Alan T Litchfield
use "Standard" and thus, you'd better fix them if you want usable results!) - Dov -Original Message- From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinask...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:10 AM To: Dov Isaacs Cc: Framers E-mail List Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster Show me

Discussion of Acrobat & Reader Concurrent Installation (Was: Acrobat 9 - a disaster)

2010-07-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
inal Message- > From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinask...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:10 AM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Show me in writing where Adobe says you should not install the same > version of

Discussion of Acrobat & Reader Concurrent Installation (Was: Acrobat 9 - a disaster)

2010-07-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
inal Message- > From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinaski69 at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:10 AM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Show me in writing where Adobe says you should not install the same > version

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Art Campbell
.4 and IE 8. >> > >> > Fei Min Lorente >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com >> > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs >> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
age- > From: Guy K. Haas [mailto:g...@hiskeyboard.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:57 AM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > But, Dov--- > > I have both installed so that when a reviewer runs into a problem, I can > &q

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
age- > From: Guy K. Haas [mailto:guy at hiskeyboard.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:57 AM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > But, Dov--- > > I have both installed so that when a reviewer runs into a problem, I

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
ge- > From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:55 AM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Dov, > > Although this takes the thread off-topic a bit, is there any way to > configure Reader

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
ge- > From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:55 AM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Dov, > > Although this takes the thread off-topic a bit, is there any way to > configure Reader

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
quickly!) - Dov > -Original Message- > From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinask...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:37 AM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Since when? Is that by design or by accident? Doesn&

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
quickly!) - Dov > -Original Message- > From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinaski69 at gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:37 AM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Framers E-mail List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Since when? Is that by design or by accident? Doesn&

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Steve Johnson
t; and using Firefox 3.6.4 and IE 8. > > Fei Min Lorente > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:39 PM > To: Framers E-mail List &

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Alan T Litchfield
hmm yes. No point in complaining here. There are a few Adobe people but they would have interest mostly in FrameMaker, except Dov. I might also suggest you get in touch with Adobe Customer care if you have a corporate license. Oh and don't expect anyone here to forward your complaint for yo

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Guy K. Haas
But, Dov--- I have both installed so that when a reviewer runs into a problem, I can "see it their way". The interfaces of the two are so different that it's sometimes handy to be able to do this. Would it be any less "NOT RECOMMENDED" if one had the Reader on a removable drive (such as a USB

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Art Campbell
6.4 and IE 8. >> > >> > Fei Min Lorente >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com >> > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs >> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:39

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
om > > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs > > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:39 PM > > To: Framers E-mail List > > Subject: RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > Importance: High > > > > I heard my name used in vain (if not on-line!).

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Dov Isaacs
l List > Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster > > You CAN have Reader and Acrobat at the same time. You CANNOT have two > Acrobats; IOW, two PDF creators. > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Fei Min Lorente > wrote: > > Thanks, Dov! I was experiencing the same problem as Aliso

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Fei Min Lorente
24, 2010 11:39 PM To: Framers E-mail List Subject: RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster Importance: High I heard my name used in vain (if not on-line!). In terms of Alison's original posting ... The symptoms you describe with regards to Acrobat 9 are not standard Acrobat 9 behaviour. You did not post ex

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-25 Thread Fei Min Lorente
24, 2010 11:39 PM To: Framers E-mail List Subject: RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster Importance: High I heard my name used in vain (if not on-line!). In terms of Alison's original posting ... The symptoms you describe with regards to Acrobat 9 are not standard Acrobat 9 behaviour. You did not post ex

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-24 Thread Dov Isaacs
I heard my name used in vain (if not on-line!). In terms of Alison's original posting ... The symptoms you describe with regards to Acrobat 9 are not standard Acrobat 9 behaviour. You did not post exactly what Windows and/or browser versions you are using, but we currently are unaware of any no

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-24 Thread Dov Isaacs
I heard my name used in vain (if not on-line!). In terms of Alison's original posting ... The symptoms you describe with regards to Acrobat 9 are not standard Acrobat 9 behaviour. You did not post exactly what Windows and/or browser versions you are using, but we currently are unaware of any no

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-24 Thread Alan T Litchfield
hmm yes. No point in complaining here. There are a few Adobe people but they would have interest mostly in FrameMaker, except Dov. I might also suggest you get in touch with Adobe Customer care if you have a corporate license. Oh and don't expect anyone here to forward your complaint for

Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-24 Thread Steve Johnson
You should post this on the Adobe forum. In the paragraph "With Acrobat 9, I cannot..." have you tried distilling using Acrobat 6 or 7 compatibility? On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Alison White wrote: > I've just upgraded to Acrobat 9 and regret the decision. Not sure how to > post my complain

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-23 Thread Alison White
I've just upgraded to Acrobat 9 and regret the decision. Not sure how to post my complaints, so {sorry}. If you can on-forward, I'd be grateful. With Acrobat 9, I cannot open a pdf inside any mainstream browser without it (Acrobat + browser) failing completely (zilch). To get anything to happen

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-23 Thread Fei Min Lorente
nt: Friday, July 23, 2010 4:19 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Acrobat 9 - a disaster I've just upgraded to Acrobat 9 and regret the decision. Not sure how to post my complaints, so {sorry}. If you can on-forward, I'd be grateful. With Acrobat 9, I cannot open a pdf inside any mainstream br

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-23 Thread Fei Min Lorente
Friday, July 23, 2010 4:19 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Acrobat 9 - a disaster I've just upgraded to Acrobat 9 and regret the decision. Not sure how to post my complaints, so {sorry}. If you can on-forward, I'd be grateful. With Acrobat 9, I cannot open a pdf inside any ma

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-23 Thread Steve Johnson
You should post this on the Adobe forum. In the paragraph "With Acrobat 9, I cannot..." have you tried distilling using Acrobat 6 or 7 compatibility? On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Alison White wrote: > I've just upgraded to Acrobat 9 and regret the decision. Not sure how to > post my complai

RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-23 Thread Combs, Richard
Alison White wrote: > I've just upgraded to Acrobat 9 and regret the decision. Not sure how to > post my complaints, so {sorry}. If you can on-forward, I'd be grateful. On-forward? To anyone in particular? > With Acrobat 9, I cannot open a pdf inside any mainstream browser without > it > (Acro

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-23 Thread Combs, Richard
Alison White wrote: > I've just upgraded to Acrobat 9 and regret the decision. Not sure how to > post my complaints, so {sorry}. If you can on-forward, I'd be grateful. On-forward? To anyone in particular? > With Acrobat 9, I cannot open a pdf inside any mainstream browser without > it > (Acrob

Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-07-23 Thread Alison White
I've just upgraded to Acrobat 9 and regret the decision. Not sure how to post my complaints, so {sorry}. If you can on-forward, I'd be grateful. With Acrobat 9, I cannot open a pdf inside any mainstream browser without it (Acrobat + browser) failing completely (zilch). To get anything to happen