Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print
At 11:00 AM 3/21/2015, you wrote: I assume you are referring to commercial printing, where either CMYK process colors or similar spot colors are used. Well, no, actually. I do very little color work and am woefully ignorant on all things color. So far, the color photos and occasional color artwork that my clients give me print just fine commercially and output just fine to PDF without my knowing anything about color. My clients mainly use line drawings. I've had really good luck importing the Illustrator vector artwork directly by reference into my FM docs. For the past 20 years, I've converted all my artwork to .eps first, but now that Framemaker gets along with Illustrator, I can skip that entire step. And it is very convenient being able to double-click the imported file to open it, revise it in Illustrator, and save it right back out. Carol ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print
Fei Min said: > but the TIFF figures were all fuzzy and the PNG ones weren't This _may_ be due to the fact that your screen capture program that outputs the TIFF does not place a good "thumb-nail" inside the file. The actual printed output may be just fine, but displays (particularly when editing in FrameMaker) would not look good at all. My general observations: 1. JPG is fine for pictures, but terrible for graphics and line-art. Don't edit and save a JPG (multiple generations) and expect it to maintain quality each time you save! 2. PNG is fine for line-art and graphics - particularly when viewed on-screen. Loss-less and can also be used for pictures too. Since most of my "images" are drawings and business graphics, PNG suits me best. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print
Using SVGs in Frame works fine in all versions, except that in FM9 through FM11 and all but the latest version of FM12, you couldn't search for text in the graphic. The latest patch for FM12 has finally fixed the conversion, which has made my engineers very happy. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Craig, Alison wrote: > Fei Min: > > I do exactly the same thing, using Visio to PDF and PNGs. > > But I'm going to have a good look at the article that was sent and see if > I can improve upon things (both in image quality and PDF size). > > I'm also going to try the Visio to SVG option. I know I tried SVGs years > ago, but there was a problem - although I can't remember the details. > > Alison > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 10:18 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print > > Thanks for that article, Carol. > > I've been using PDF from Visio source (sometimes Illustrator or CAD > drawings), and I'm currently using PNG for screen captures. I used to use > TIFF, but then something changed. I'm not sure if it was going from Windows > XP to Windows 7 or changing my laptop, but the TIFF figures were all fuzzy > and the PNG ones weren't (when I look at PDF and HTML). I haven't tried > printing the PNG graphics; we just ship PDFs and since our customers > haven't complained, maybe they're not printing them either. > > Fei Min > -------------- > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:31:35 -0400 > From: Lin Sims > To: "Carol J. Elkins" > Cc: Frame Users > Subject: Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print > Message-ID: > < > ca+momcjh+ulvwh6zhjaaz1mlyxcqwgj8hzbhnctmvxcob50...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Where I work we use either PNGs (if we have a screenshot) or SVGs > (generated from Visio). We do a *lot *of Visio diagrams. > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Carol J. Elkins > > wrote: > > > Here is a really good article (I think) about the various graphic file > > formats and when to use and not use them. > > http://www.creativepro.com/article/how-to-choose-the- > > right-image-file-format-for-print > > I've read dozens of similar articles and this one stands out for its > > clarity. > > > > This past year I've been using native Illustrator files in my > > Framemaker documents almost exclusively and am really happy with the > > decision. I previously had used a lot of imported PDF files as > > graphics and although they generally did not cause any mishaps, > > occasionally I'd have some seriously wonky problems with PDFs > > generated from Framemaker files that had PDF files imported by > > reference. Just curious as to whether others are using native > > Illustrator or Photoshop files instead of traditional .tif, eps, or > (gasp) jpg formats. > > > > Carol > > > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > > ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20150319/45b92b97/attachment-0001.html > > > > -- > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:10:30 -0700 > From: Ed Nodland > To: "Carol J. Elkins" > Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" > Subject: Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print > Message-ID: > < > cajvfo7borozudhl84b_j5bpffhlwnzlukplnxyfb9guhbma...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > We use PDFs created in Illustrator. As I understand a single page > illustrator and PDF file created by illustrator are identical or at least > totally exchangeable. > > Ed Nodland > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Carol J. Elkins < > celk...@awrittenword.com> > wrote: > > > H
Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print
Carol, I assume you are referring to commercial printing, where either CMYK process colors or similar spot colors are used. Ed On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > Here is a really good article (I think) about the various graphic file > formats and when to use and not use them. > http://www.creativepro.com/article/how-to-choose-the- > right-image-file-format-for-print > I've read dozens of similar articles and this one stands out for its > clarity. > > This past year I've been using native Illustrator files in my Framemaker > documents almost exclusively and am really happy with the decision. I > previously had used a lot of imported PDF files as graphics and although > they generally did not cause any mishaps, occasionally I'd have some > seriously wonky problems with PDFs generated from Framemaker files that had > PDF files imported by reference. Just curious as to whether others are > using native Illustrator or Photoshop files instead of traditional .tif, > eps, or (gasp) jpg formats. > > Carol > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as enodl...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > enodland%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print
Fei Min: I do exactly the same thing, using Visio to PDF and PNGs. But I'm going to have a good look at the article that was sent and see if I can improve upon things (both in image quality and PDF size). I'm also going to try the Visio to SVG option. I know I tried SVGs years ago, but there was a problem - although I can't remember the details. Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 10:18 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print Thanks for that article, Carol. I've been using PDF from Visio source (sometimes Illustrator or CAD drawings), and I'm currently using PNG for screen captures. I used to use TIFF, but then something changed. I'm not sure if it was going from Windows XP to Windows 7 or changing my laptop, but the TIFF figures were all fuzzy and the PNG ones weren't (when I look at PDF and HTML). I haven't tried printing the PNG graphics; we just ship PDFs and since our customers haven't complained, maybe they're not printing them either. Fei Min -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:31:35 -0400 From: Lin Sims To: "Carol J. Elkins" Cc: Frame Users Subject: Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Where I work we use either PNGs (if we have a screenshot) or SVGs (generated from Visio). We do a *lot *of Visio diagrams. On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > Here is a really good article (I think) about the various graphic file > formats and when to use and not use them. > http://www.creativepro.com/article/how-to-choose-the- > right-image-file-format-for-print > I've read dozens of similar articles and this one stands out for its > clarity. > > This past year I've been using native Illustrator files in my > Framemaker documents almost exclusively and am really happy with the > decision. I previously had used a lot of imported PDF files as > graphics and although they generally did not cause any mishaps, > occasionally I'd have some seriously wonky problems with PDFs > generated from Framemaker files that had PDF files imported by > reference. Just curious as to whether others are using native > Illustrator or Photoshop files instead of traditional .tif, eps, or (gasp) > jpg formats. > > Carol > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20150319/45b92b97/attachment-0001.html> -------------- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:10:30 -0700 From: Ed Nodland To: "Carol J. Elkins" Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Subject: Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" We use PDFs created in Illustrator. As I understand a single page illustrator and PDF file created by illustrator are identical or at least totally exchangeable. Ed Nodland On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > Here is a really good article (I think) about the various graphic file > formats and when to use and not use them. > http://www.creativepro.com/article/how-to-choose-the- > right-image-file-format-for-print > I've read dozens of similar articles and this one stands out for its > clarity. > > This past year I've been using native Illustrator files in my > Framemaker documents almost exclusively and am really happy with the > decision. I previously had used a lot of imported PDF files as > graphics and although they generally did not cause any mishaps, > occasionally I'd have some seriously wonky problems with PDFs > generated from Framemaker files that had PDF files imported by > reference. Just curious as to whether others are using native > Illustrator or Photoshop files instead of traditional .tif, eps, or (gasp) > jpg formats. > > Carol > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as enodl...@gmail.c
Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print
Thanks for that article, Carol. I've been using PDF from Visio source (sometimes Illustrator or CAD drawings), and I'm currently using PNG for screen captures. I used to use TIFF, but then something changed. I'm not sure if it was going from Windows XP to Windows 7 or changing my laptop, but the TIFF figures were all fuzzy and the PNG ones weren't (when I look at PDF and HTML). I haven't tried printing the PNG graphics; we just ship PDFs and since our customers haven't complained, maybe they're not printing them either. Fei Min -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:31:35 -0400 From: Lin Sims To: "Carol J. Elkins" Cc: Frame Users Subject: Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Where I work we use either PNGs (if we have a screenshot) or SVGs (generated from Visio). We do a *lot *of Visio diagrams. On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > Here is a really good article (I think) about the various graphic file > formats and when to use and not use them. > http://www.creativepro.com/article/how-to-choose-the- > right-image-file-format-for-print > I've read dozens of similar articles and this one stands out for its > clarity. > > This past year I've been using native Illustrator files in my > Framemaker documents almost exclusively and am really happy with the > decision. I previously had used a lot of imported PDF files as > graphics and although they generally did not cause any mishaps, > occasionally I'd have some seriously wonky problems with PDFs > generated from Framemaker files that had PDF files imported by > reference. Just curious as to whether others are using native > Illustrator or Photoshop files instead of traditional .tif, eps, or (gasp) > jpg formats. > > Carol > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20150319/45b92b97/attachment-0001.html> -------------- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:10:30 -0700 From: Ed Nodland To: "Carol J. Elkins" Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Subject: Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" We use PDFs created in Illustrator. As I understand a single page illustrator and PDF file created by illustrator are identical or at least totally exchangeable. Ed Nodland On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > Here is a really good article (I think) about the various graphic file > formats and when to use and not use them. > http://www.creativepro.com/article/how-to-choose-the- > right-image-file-format-for-print > I've read dozens of similar articles and this one stands out for its > clarity. > > This past year I've been using native Illustrator files in my > Framemaker documents almost exclusively and am really happy with the > decision. I previously had used a lot of imported PDF files as > graphics and although they generally did not cause any mishaps, > occasionally I'd have some seriously wonky problems with PDFs > generated from Framemaker files that had PDF files imported by > reference. Just curious as to whether others are using native > Illustrator or Photoshop files instead of traditional .tif, eps, or (gasp) > jpg formats. > > Carol > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as enodl...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > enodland%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20150320/8a32730b/attachment-0001.html> -- ___
Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print
We use PDFs created in Illustrator. As I understand a single page illustrator and PDF file created by illustrator are identical or at least totally exchangeable. Ed Nodland On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > Here is a really good article (I think) about the various graphic file > formats and when to use and not use them. > http://www.creativepro.com/article/how-to-choose-the- > right-image-file-format-for-print > I've read dozens of similar articles and this one stands out for its > clarity. > > This past year I've been using native Illustrator files in my Framemaker > documents almost exclusively and am really happy with the decision. I > previously had used a lot of imported PDF files as graphics and although > they generally did not cause any mishaps, occasionally I'd have some > seriously wonky problems with PDFs generated from Framemaker files that had > PDF files imported by reference. Just curious as to whether others are > using native Illustrator or Photoshop files instead of traditional .tif, > eps, or (gasp) jpg formats. > > Carol > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as enodl...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > enodland%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print
Where I work we use either PNGs (if we have a screenshot) or SVGs (generated from Visio). We do a *lot *of Visio diagrams. On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > Here is a really good article (I think) about the various graphic file > formats and when to use and not use them. > http://www.creativepro.com/article/how-to-choose-the- > right-image-file-format-for-print > I've read dozens of similar articles and this one stands out for its > clarity. > > This past year I've been using native Illustrator files in my Framemaker > documents almost exclusively and am really happy with the decision. I > previously had used a lot of imported PDF files as graphics and although > they generally did not cause any mishaps, occasionally I'd have some > seriously wonky problems with PDFs generated from Framemaker files that had > PDF files imported by reference. Just curious as to whether others are > using native Illustrator or Photoshop files instead of traditional .tif, > eps, or (gasp) jpg formats. > > Carol > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
How to Choose the Right Image File Format for Print
Here is a really good article (I think) about the various graphic file formats and when to use and not use them. http://www.creativepro.com/article/how-to-choose-the-right-image-file-format-for-print I've read dozens of similar articles and this one stands out for its clarity. This past year I've been using native Illustrator files in my Framemaker documents almost exclusively and am really happy with the decision. I previously had used a lot of imported PDF files as graphics and although they generally did not cause any mishaps, occasionally I'd have some seriously wonky problems with PDFs generated from Framemaker files that had PDF files imported by reference. Just curious as to whether others are using native Illustrator or Photoshop files instead of traditional .tif, eps, or (gasp) jpg formats. Carol ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
