Re: Cursor key navigation in tables
The caveat here (as I just discovered) is that using those four Modify lines apparently turns cursor key navigation in the regular text OFF. On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Heiko Haida i...@heiko-haida.de wrote: Hi Rick, I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9 installations - table navigation was OFF. Your suggestion is to add: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down In FM 8, I had a modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I added these 4 lines to the existing custumui.cfg = table navigation via key arrows is now ON! In FM 9 there was no customui.cfg, so I created this file with these 4 lines as the only content = table navigation is now ON! So everything's fine and working in these older FM-versions. Thank you! Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Hi Fred, I specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the modify sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks. Rick From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM To: r...@rickquatro.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Thanks Rick and Syed. In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the KeySequence definition, or added a Modify command, those two MoveIP commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work, as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to reach for the mouse every damn time. What's frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on us with version 9.0. Sigh... I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it in the past has been an exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one and two hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15 minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was moved to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was that we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to work. Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another day... Thanks for your efforts, guys. Fred Ridder From: r...@rickquatro.com To: syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Hi Rick, I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to reset this each time. I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames? Thanks, Heidi -- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com To: 'Syed Zaeem Hosain' syed.hos...@aeris.net, 'Alison Craig' alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com, 'Fred Ridder' docu...@hotmail.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Message-ID: 001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using the arrow keys. Technical Author OCZ Technology Ltd 25B-25C Western Avenue Milton Park Abingdon Oxfordshire OX14 4SH Registered in England no 7806324 Registered Address: As Above Tel: +44 (0) 1235 824900 Fax: +44 (0) 1235 821141 Email: hbai...@ocztechnology.com Web: http://www.ocztechnology.com CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION: This communication including any attached file(s) is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient (s) above and contains trade secrets or other information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and any file attachments by anyone other than the named recipient (s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by reply electronic mail and permanently delete the original transmission and any attachments from your computer system and any copies of this message and file attachments. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular text. Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy they'd be willing to give you. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey hbai...@ocztechnology.com wrote: Hi Rick, I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to reset this each time. I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames? Thanks, Heidi -- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com To: 'Syed Zaeem Hosain' syed.hos...@aeris.net, 'Alison Craig' alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com, 'Fred Ridder' docu...@hotmail.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Message-ID: 001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using the arrow keys. Technical Author OCZ Technology Ltd 25B-25C Western Avenue Milton Park Abingdon Oxfordshire OX14 4SH Registered in England no 7806324 Registered Address: As Above Tel: +44 (0) 1235 824900 Fax: +44 (0) 1235 821141 Email: hbai...@ocztechnology.com Web: http://www.ocztechnology.com CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION: This communication including any attached file(s) is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient (s) above and contains trade secrets or other information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and any file attachments by anyone other than the named recipient (s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by reply electronic mail and permanently delete the original transmission and any attachments from your computer system and any copies of this message and file attachments. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
I'm sure the folder name was just a typo on Rick's part. The folder is configui. Create a text file called customui.cfg to hold the commands. The other files you mentioned can be edited, too, but it's best to put all your customizations in the customui.cfg file. FrameMaker reads it last, and overwrites definitions loaded from the other files. So if an entry doesn't work out, you can delete it and FrameMaker will return to default behavior without having to reenter the original values. It's much easier to test and make changes that way, and easier to move your customizations to future FM versions. Mike Wickham On 3/18/2013 8:40 AM, Heidi Bailey wrote: Hi Rick, I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Thanks! -Original Message- From: Harro de Jong [mailto:harro.dej...@triviewgroup.com] Sent: 18 March 2013 13:50 To: Heidi Bailey Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement) Heidi Bailey wrote: I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? configui is the correct folder name. If customui.cfg doesn't exist, you can create it in this folder. Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to reset this each time. I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames? No. I used to use QuicKeys to change this for all frames in a book, but sadly that isn't officially supported under Windows 7 anymore. Some people have got it to work though. Harro de Jong Triview CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION: This communication including any attached file(s) is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient (s) above and contains trade secrets or other information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and any file attachments by anyone other than the named recipient (s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by reply electronic mail and permanently delete the original transmission and any attachments from your computer system and any copies of this message and file attachments. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: [JUNK] Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Oh, odd. I missed that - not helpful! Thanks, Heidi -Original Message- From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 March 2013 14:02 To: Heidi Bailey Cc: r...@rickquatro.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [JUNK] Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement) Importance: Low I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular text. Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy they'd be willing to give you. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey hbai...@ocztechnology.com wrote: Hi Rick, I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to reset this each time. I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames? Thanks, Heidi -- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com To: 'Syed Zaeem Hosain' syed.hos...@aeris.net, 'Alison Craig' alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com, 'Fred Ridder' docu...@hotmail.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Message-ID: 001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using the arrow keys. Technical Author OCZ Technology Ltd 25B-25C Western Avenue Milton Park Abingdon Oxfordshire OX14 4SH Registered in England no 7806324 Registered Address: As Above Tel: +44 (0) 1235 824900 Fax: +44 (0) 1235 821141 Email: hbai...@ocztechnology.com Web: http://www.ocztechnology.com CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION: This communication including any attached file(s) is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient (s) above and contains trade secrets or other information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and any file attachments by anyone other than the named recipient (s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by reply electronic mail and permanently delete the original transmission and any attachments from your computer system and any copies of this message and file attachments. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail. com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION: This communication including any attached file(s) is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient (s) above and contains trade secrets or other information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and any file attachments by anyone other than the named recipient (s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by reply electronic mail and permanently delete the original transmission and any attachments from your computer system and any copies of this message and file attachments. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
One solution to this is to define the KeySequence for navigation within a table to use one or more modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, or Alt) in addition to the cursor keys. This change does not affect the function of the unmodified cursor keys in regular text. To specify a modifier key in a KeySequence string, just use a plus sign for Shift, a caret for Ctrl, or a tilde for Alt. The modifier key symbol(s) needs to appear at the start of the string with no space (i.e. immediately to the left of the slash). For example: Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence ^/Down would define the keystroke combination for moving down a row in a table to be the Ctrl key plus the down arrow cursor key. BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation. Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0. I would hope that this file is still available somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may be over-optimistic. -Fred Ridder Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:02:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement) From: ljsims...@gmail.com To: hbai...@ocztechnology.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular text. Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy they'd be willing to give you. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey hbai...@ocztechnology.com wrote: Hi Rick, I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to reset this each time. I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames? Thanks, Heidi -- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com To: 'Syed Zaeem Hosain' syed.hos...@aeris.net, 'Alison Craig' alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com, 'Fred Ridder' docu...@hotmail.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Message-ID: 001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using the arrow keys. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Klaus Daube has a bunch of good materials for later versions of FrameMaker. http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker00.html There is a link towards the bottom to Customising FrameMaker 11 (also valid for FM-9 and 10). Klaus is very thorough and generous with his information. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com At 10:39 -0400 18/3/13, Fred Ridder wrote: BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation. Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0. I would hope that this file is still available somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may be over-optimistic. I have a copy, but only the Mac version, which might not be the same. Try this: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Good idea.
What are the symbols for the ALT, CTRL, SHIFT and Windows Key?
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133
On 18-Mar-13 4:39 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:
One solution to this is to define the KeySequence for navigation
within a table to use one or more modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, or
Alt) in addition to the cursor keys. This change does not affect
the function of the unmodified cursor keys in regular text.
To specify a modifier key in a KeySequence string, just use a
plus sign for Shift, a caret for Ctrl, or a tilde for Alt. The
modifier key symbol(s) needs to appear at the start of the
string with no space (i.e. immediately to the left of the
slash). For example:
Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence ^/Down
would define the keystroke combination for moving down a row in
a table to be the Ctrl key plus the down arrow cursor key.
BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called
CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in
the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation.
Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker
7.0, and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0. I
would hope that this file is still available somewhere on the
Adobe website, but I suspect that may be over-optimistic.
-Fred Ridder
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:02:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and
another thing (graphic frame placement)
From: ljsims...@gmail.com
To: hbai...@ocztechnology.com
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the
fminit\configui folder
and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a
different
email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer
works in regular
text.
Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but
with his death
it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe
someone has a copy
they'd be willing to give you.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey
hbai...@ocztechnology.com wrote:
Hi Rick,
I'd love to apply what you describe below. However,
in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config
folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of
the files in there is the right one:
Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already
mentioned...)
Mathcmds.cfg
Sample.cfg
Wincmds.cfg
Or do I need to create a config folder and a file
called customui.cfg?
Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing
Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need
my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to
reset this each time.
I hunted through the maker.ini file but found
nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align
new graphic frames?
Thanks,
Heidi
--
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
From: "Rick Quatro" r...@rickquatro.com
To: "'Syed Zaeem Hosain'"
syed.hos...@aeris.net, "'Alison Craig'"
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com, "'Fred Ridder'"
docu...@hotmail.com,
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
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Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file
in a text editor and add
these lines:
Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence
/Right
Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left
Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up
Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down
Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able
to navigate cells using
the arrow keys.
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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Umm, I think I indicated that in my previous message. To designate modifier keys in a KeySequence string: - Shift key is + - Ctrl key is ^ - Atl key is ~ AFAIK, FrameMaker does not support any use of the Windows key. Note that when defining a KeySequence that uses a modifier key (or a combination of modifier keys), the modifier key(s) and the key that follows are pressed *in combination* rather than as a sequence of separate keystrokes. (Most existing KeySequence definitions start with the Esc key, which is denoted by \!, followed by several case-sensitive letters that are pressed in sequence.) -Fred Ridder Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:25:53 +0200 From: shmue...@gmail.com To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement) Good idea. What are the symbols for the ALT, CTRL, SHIFT and Windows Key? Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Mar-13 4:39 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: One solution to this is to define the KeySequence for navigation within a table to use one or more modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, or Alt) in addition to the cursor keys. This change does not affect the function of the unmodified cursor keys in regular text. To specify a modifier key in a KeySequence string, just use a plus sign for Shift, a caret for Ctrl, or a tilde for Alt. The modifier key symbol(s) needs to appear at the start of the string with no space (i.e. immediately to the left of the slash). For example: Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence ^/Down would define the keystroke combination for moving down a row in a table to be the Ctrl key plus the down arrow cursor key. BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation. Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0. I would hope that this file is still available somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may be over-optimistic. -Fred Ridder Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:02:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement) From: ljsims...@gmail.com To: hbai...@ocztechnology.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular text. Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy they'd be willing to give you. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey hbai...@ocztechnology.com wrote: Hi Rick, I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to reset this each time. I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames? Thanks, Heidi -- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com To: 'Syed Zaeem Hosain' syed.hos...@aeris.net, 'Alison Craig' alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com, 'Fred Ridder' docu...@hotmail.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Message-ID: 001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com Content-Type
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Fred Ridder wrote: Umm, I think I indicated that in my previous message. To designate modifier keys in a KeySequence string: - Shift key is + - Ctrl key is ^ - Atl key is ~ AFAIK, FrameMaker does not support any use of the Windows key. I don't know of any way to specify the Windows logo key in a KeySequence, but you can use /Apps to specify the Application key. For instance, my FM 7.2 customui.cfg file (based on the original MicroType customization kit) contains the following shortcuts for table navigation: Modify MoveIPToColumnTop KeySequence /Apps /Home Modify MoveIPToColumnBottom KeySequence /Apps /End Modify MoveIPToPreviousCell KeySequence /Apps /Left Modify MoveIPToNextCell KeySequence /Apps /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Apps /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Apps /Down Note that the Application key and the key that follows are pressed in sequence (as indicated by the space between them). (Actually, it works if you hold the Application key while pressing the following key, but then you have to release the Application key and press it again before you can repeat the action.) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Find the file here: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker/online_manuals.html This link also has a lot of FrameMaker info: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker.html Mike Wickham On 3/18/2013 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation. Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0. I would hope that this file is still available somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may be over-optimistic. - ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
The sequence posted by Rick, and modified by Fred, worked for me in FrameMaker 11 ... I decided to use the Alt key sequence that Fred outlined, because CTRL-arrow and shift-arrow has other cursor positioning purposes that I use in FrameMaker a lot. My thanks to Rick, Fred and Richard (and others) who made this thread be the _most_ useful one of this year for me! :) Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Heidi Bailey wrote: I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? configui is the correct folder name. If customui.cfg doesn't exist, you can create it in this folder. Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to reset this each time. I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames? No. I used to use QuicKeys to change this for all frames in a book, but sadly that isn't officially supported under Windows 7 anymore. Some people have got it to work though. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
Hi all, I checked with alt-key + shift-key + arrow-keys, that would work (alt/shift+arrow does not seem to have another function when the cursor is placed in the text). Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence ~+/Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence ~+/Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence ~+/Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence ~+/Down Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Hi Rick, I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9 installations - table navigation was OFF. Your suggestion is to add: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down In FM 8, I had a modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I added these 4 lines to the existing custumui.cfg = table navigation via key arrows is now ON! In FM 9 there was no customui.cfg, so I created this file with these 4 lines as the only content = table navigation is now ON! So everything's fine and working in these older FM-versions. Thank you! Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Hi Fred, I specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the modify sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks. Rick FROM: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] SENT: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM TO: r...@rickquatro.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com SUBJECT: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Thanks Rick and Syed. In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the KeySequence definition, or added a Modify command, those two MoveIP commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work, as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to reach for the mouse every damn time. What's frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on us with version 9.0. Sigh... I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it in the past has been an exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one and two hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15 minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was moved to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was that we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to work. Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another day... Thanks for your efforts, guys. Fred Ridder From: r...@rickquatro.com To: syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down -- Heiko Haida Brüsseler Str. 37a 13353 Berlin = ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
[JUNK] Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Oh, odd. I missed that - not helpful! Thanks, Heidi -Original Message- From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 March 2013 14:02 To: Heidi Bailey Cc: rick at rickquatro.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: [JUNK] Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement) Importance: Low I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular text. Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy they'd be willing to give you. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey wrote: > Hi Rick, > I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, > I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can > you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: > > Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg > Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg > > Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? > > > Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: > Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a > screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so > it is a pain to have to reset this each time. > I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of > setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames? > > Thanks, > Heidi > -- > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 > From: "Rick Quatro" > To: "'Syed Zaeem Hosain'" , "'Alison Craig'" > , "'Fred Ridder'" hotmail.com>, > > Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables > Message-ID: <001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor > and add these lines: > > > MoveIPToCellAtLeft > > > > > Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells > using the arrow keys. > > > > Technical Author > OCZ Technology Ltd > 25B-25C Western Avenue > Milton Park > Abingdon > Oxfordshire > OX14 4SH > Registered in England no 7806324 > Registered Address: As Above > Tel: +44 (0) 1235 824900 > Fax: +44 (0) 1235 821141 > Email: hbailey at ocztechnology.com > Web: http://www.ocztechnology.com > > > > CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION: This communication including any attached > file(s) is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient (s) above and > contains trade secrets or other information that is exempt from disclosure > under applicable law. Any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of > this communication and any file attachments by anyone other than the named > recipient (s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication > in error, please immediately notify us by reply electronic mail and > permanently delete the original transmission and any attachments from your > computer system and any copies of this message and file attachments. Thank > you. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims.ML at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail. > com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION: This communication including any attached file(s) is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient (s) above and contains trade secrets or other information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and any file attachments by anyone other than the named recipient (s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by reply electronic mail and permanently delete the original transmission and any attachments from your computer system and any copies of this message and file attachments. Thank you.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
Hi Fred, I specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the modify sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks. Rick From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM To: r...@rickquatro.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Thanks Rick and Syed. In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the KeySequence definition, or added a Modify command, those two MoveIP commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work, as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to reach for the mouse every damn time. What's frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on us with version 9.0. Sigh... I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it in the past has been an exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one and two hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15 minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was moved to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was that we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to work. Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another day... Thanks for your efforts, guys. Fred Ridder From: r...@rickquatro.com To: syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using the arrow keys. If you want the target cell selected when you move to it, you may have to substitute one of the other table commands. Here is a list of them: Command MoveIPToCellAtRight Label Move IP To Cell At Right KeySequence \!tmr Definition \xFB1 Command MoveIPToCellAtLeft Label Move IP To Cell At Left KeySequence \!tml Definition \xFB2 Command MoveIPToCellAbove Label Move IP To Cell Above KeySequence \!tmu Definition \xFB3 Command MoveIPUpAndSelectText Label Move IP Up And Select Text KeySequence \!tmua Definition \xFB3 \xFA4 Command MoveIPToCellBelow Label Move IP To Cell Below KeySequence \!tmd Definition \xFB4 Command MoveIPDownAndSelectText Label Move IP Down And Select Text KeySequence \!tmda Definition \xFB4 \xFA4 Command MoveIPToLeftmostCell Label Move IP To Leftmost Cell KeySequence \!tma Definition \xFB5 Command MoveIPToRightmostCell Label Move IP To Rightmost Cell KeySequence \!tme Definition \xFB6 Command MoveIPToNextCell Label Move IP To Next Cell KeySequence \!tmn Definition \xFB7 Command MoveIPToPreviousCell Label Move IP To Previous Cell KeySequence \!tmp Definition \xFB8 Command MoveIPToColumnTop Label Move IP To Column Top KeySequence \!tmt Definition \xFB9 Command MoveIPToColumnBottom Label Move IP To Column Bottom KeySequence \!tmb Definition \xFBA Command MoveIPToTopLeftCell Label Move IP To Top Left Cell KeySequence \!tmT Definition \xFB9 \xFB5 Mode All Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:26 PM To: Alison Craig; Fred Ridder; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables The sequence Escapetmda will move the Insertion Point down one cell and highlight the text in it. The sequence Escapetmd (i.e., without the 'a') is support to just move
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
Thanks, Rick, but using all the default configuration files, the *default* key sequences (Cmd,t,m,u and Cmd,t,m,d) don't work, eitherIf the underlying command isn't working with the default key sequence, I think the issue of the syntax of my modification sequences is moot. Fred From: r...@rickquatro.com To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 07:33:19 -0400 Hi Fred, I specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the modify sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks. Rick From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM To: r...@rickquatro.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Thanks Rick and Syed. In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the KeySequence definition, or added a Modify command, those two MoveIP commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work, as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to reach for the mouse every damn time. What's frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on us with version 9.0. Sigh... I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it in the past has been an exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one and two hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15 minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was moved to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was that we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to work. Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another day... Thanks for your efforts, guys. Fred Ridder From: r...@rickquatro.com To: syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using the arrow keys. If you want the target cell selected when you move to it, you may have to substitute one of the other table commands. Here is a list of them: Command MoveIPToCellAtRight Label Move IP To Cell At Right KeySequence \!tmr Definition \xFB1 Command MoveIPToCellAtLeft Label Move IP To Cell At Left KeySequence \!tml Definition \xFB2 Command MoveIPToCellAbove Label Move IP To Cell Above KeySequence \!tmu Definition \xFB3 Command MoveIPUpAndSelectText Label Move IP Up And Select Text KeySequence \!tmua Definition \xFB3 \xFA4 Command MoveIPToCellBelow Label Move IP To Cell Below KeySequence \!tmd Definition \xFB4 Command MoveIPDownAndSelectText Label Move IP Down And Select Text KeySequence \!tmda Definition \xFB4 \xFA4 Command MoveIPToLeftmostCell Label Move IP To Leftmost Cell KeySequence \!tma Definition \xFB5 Command MoveIPToRightmostCell Label Move IP To Rightmost Cell KeySequence \!tme Definition \xFB6 Command MoveIPToNextCell Label Move IP To Next Cell KeySequence \!tmn Definition \xFB7 Command MoveIPToPreviousCell Label Move IP To Previous Cell KeySequence \!tmp Definition \xFB8 Command MoveIPToColumnTop Label Move IP To Column Top KeySequence \!tmt Definition \xFB9 Command MoveIPToColumnBottom Label Move IP To Column Bottom KeySequence \!tmb Definition \xFBA Command MoveIPToTopLeftCell Label Move IP To Top Left Cell KeySequence \!tmT Definition \xFB9 \xFB5 Mode All Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun
Re: Cursor key navigation in tables
On 15 Mar 2013 at 14:30, Fred Ridder wrote: One of the things that is driving me completely nuts is the absence of cursor key navigation inside tables. Fred, have a look at http://www.i-frame.itl.info/en/feature-description/i-frame-modules/base-pack.html Table Navigation. Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
Hi Rick, I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9 installations - table navigation was OFF. Your suggestion is to add: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down In FM 8, I had a modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I added these 4 lines to the existing custumui.cfg = table navigation via key arrows is now ON! In FM 9 there was no customui.cfg, so I created this file with these 4 lines as the only content = table navigation is now ON! So everything's fine and working in these older FM-versions. Thank you! Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Hi Fred, I specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the modify sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks. Rick FROM: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] SENT: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM TO: r...@rickquatro.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com SUBJECT: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Thanks Rick and Syed. In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the KeySequence definition, or added a Modify command, those two MoveIP commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work, as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to reach for the mouse every damn time. What's frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on us with version 9.0. Sigh... I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it in the past has been an exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one and two hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15 minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was moved to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was that we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to work. Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another day... Thanks for your efforts, guys. Fred Ridder From: r...@rickquatro.com To: syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cursor key navigation in tables
Per an ancient (circa FM5) set of training materials,Control-Alt-TabControl-Alt-Shift-Tabare what the keys used to be, but they're so bad I never use them. I just checked, and FWIW, they don't work in FM11, Win7, structured mode.-MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.960.6840 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com@mattrsullivanLinkedInfacebookmattrsullivan.com On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:It's actually been nearly two years since I've used FrameMaker on a daily basis, and that was still FM8 (for a variety of reasons that don't matter here). But the project I'm working on now is based on a document that was done in FM9, so here I am trying to meet a deadline and come to terms with a completely unfamiliar UI at the same time.One of the things that is driving me completely nuts is the absence of cursor key navigation inside tables. The bulk of the document I'm working on is pin description tables for a SoC chip with 1243 pins, and having to reach for the mouse (or type Tab 6 times to step sequentially through the cells) to move the insertion point down one row several thousand times has *ZERO* appeal. I know that in older versions of FrameMaker there was a simple modification one could to to cmds.cfg (if I recall correctly) to make the cursor keys (or cursor keys plus a modifier key) work inside a Frame table just like they would inside a Word table or a spreadsheet, but I have had no luck putting my hands on that info. I did read the section on customizing commands in the FM7 (Windows) version ofCustomizing FrameMakerand tried a couple modifications of the FM9 cmds.cfg file, but no joy.Can someone enlighten me whether the cursor keys can be made to work inside tables, and if so how to make that happen? My mouse hand and arm will be eternally grateful.-Fred Ridder___You are currently subscribed to framers asm...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages toframers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visithttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions tolistad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
Fred Ridder wrote: Can someone enlighten me whether the cursor keys can be made to work inside tables, and if so how to make that happen? My mouse hand and arm will be eternally grateful. The key sequences Matt found in FM 5 training materials apparently ceased working prior to FM 7.2. My FM 7.2 installation has UI customizations from Microtype.com, and they enable table cell navigation by pressing the Application key followed by the desired arrow key. I'm guessing that feature is still available in later Microtype customization products -- along with scores of other changes you'll find you can't live without. :-) HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
I'd love to know the answer to this as well as I, too, use Frame 9 and hate the awful table navigation option of tab, tab, tab... Alison From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:30 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Cursor key navigation in tables It's actually been nearly two years since I've used FrameMaker on a daily basis, and that was still FM8 (for a variety of reasons that don't matter here). But the project I'm working on now is based on a document that was done in FM9, so here I am trying to meet a deadline and come to terms with a completely unfamiliar UI at the same time. One of the things that is driving me completely nuts is the absence of cursor key navigation inside tables. The bulk of the document I'm working on is pin description tables for a SoC chip with 1243 pins, and having to reach for the mouse (or type Tab 6 times to step sequentially through the cells) to move the insertion point down one row several thousand times has *ZERO* appeal. I know that in older versions of FrameMaker there was a simple modification one could to to cmds.cfg (if I recall correctly) to make the cursor keys (or cursor keys plus a modifier key) work inside a Frame table just like they would inside a Word table or a spreadsheet, but I have had no luck putting my hands on that info. I did read the section on customizing commands in the FM7 (Windows) version of Customizing FrameMaker and tried a couple modifications of the FM9 cmds.cfg file, but no joy. Can someone enlighten me whether the cursor keys can be made to work inside tables, and if so how to make that happen? My mouse hand and arm will be eternally grateful. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
The sequence Escapetmda will move the Insertion Point down one cell and highlight the text in it. The sequence Escapetmd (i.e., without the 'a') is support to just move the Insertion Point down one cell. But it does not seem to work ... :( And, of course, Escapetmua goes up one cell. Again, for some reason unknown to me, Escapetmu does not work ... What I have not been able to figure out is how to tie the arrow keys to this sequence of keystroke when in cells. None of the above sequences are short enough ... the arrow keys are the way to do it. FWIW, this is also one of _my_ pet peeves with FrameMaker ... and it is one thing that Word gets right, annoyingly. Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:53 PM To: Fred Ridder; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables I'd love to know the answer to this as well as I, too, use Frame 9 and hate the awful table navigation option of tab, tab, tab... Alison From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:30 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Cursor key navigation in tables It's actually been nearly two years since I've used FrameMaker on a daily basis, and that was still FM8 (for a variety of reasons that don't matter here). But the project I'm working on now is based on a document that was done in FM9, so here I am trying to meet a deadline and come to terms with a completely unfamiliar UI at the same time. One of the things that is driving me completely nuts is the absence of cursor key navigation inside tables. The bulk of the document I'm working on is pin description tables for a SoC chip with 1243 pins, and having to reach for the mouse (or type Tab 6 times to step sequentially through the cells) to move the insertion point down one row several thousand times has *ZERO* appeal. I know that in older versions of FrameMaker there was a simple modification one could to to cmds.cfg (if I recall correctly) to make the cursor keys (or cursor keys plus a modifier key) work inside a Frame table just like they would inside a Word table or a spreadsheet, but I have had no luck putting my hands on that info. I did read the section on customizing commands in the FM7 (Windows) version of Customizing FrameMaker and tried a couple modifications of the FM9 cmds.cfg file, but no joy. Can someone enlighten me whether the cursor keys can be made to work inside tables, and if so how to make that happen? My mouse hand and arm will be eternally grateful. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using the arrow keys. If you want the target cell selected when you move to it, you may have to substitute one of the other table commands. Here is a list of them: Command MoveIPToCellAtRight Label Move IP To Cell At Right KeySequence \!tmr Definition \xFB1 Command MoveIPToCellAtLeft Label Move IP To Cell At Left KeySequence \!tml Definition \xFB2 Command MoveIPToCellAbove Label Move IP To Cell Above KeySequence \!tmu Definition \xFB3 Command MoveIPUpAndSelectText Label Move IP Up And Select Text KeySequence \!tmua Definition \xFB3 \xFA4 Command MoveIPToCellBelow Label Move IP To Cell Below KeySequence \!tmd Definition \xFB4 Command MoveIPDownAndSelectText Label Move IP Down And Select Text KeySequence \!tmda Definition \xFB4 \xFA4 Command MoveIPToLeftmostCell Label Move IP To Leftmost Cell KeySequence \!tma Definition \xFB5 Command MoveIPToRightmostCell Label Move IP To Rightmost Cell KeySequence \!tme Definition \xFB6 Command MoveIPToNextCell Label Move IP To Next Cell KeySequence \!tmn Definition \xFB7 Command MoveIPToPreviousCell Label Move IP To Previous Cell KeySequence \!tmp Definition \xFB8 Command MoveIPToColumnTop Label Move IP To Column Top KeySequence \!tmt Definition \xFB9 Command MoveIPToColumnBottom Label Move IP To Column Bottom KeySequence \!tmb Definition \xFBA Command MoveIPToTopLeftCell Label Move IP To Top Left Cell KeySequence \!tmT Definition \xFB9 \xFB5 Mode All Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:26 PM To: Alison Craig; Fred Ridder; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables The sequence Escapetmda will move the Insertion Point down one cell and highlight the text in it. The sequence Escapetmd (i.e., without the 'a') is support to just move the Insertion Point down one cell. But it does not seem to work ... :( And, of course, Escapetmua goes up one cell. Again, for some reason unknown to me, Escapetmu does not work ... What I have not been able to figure out is how to tie the arrow keys to this sequence of keystroke when in cells. None of the above sequences are short enough ... the arrow keys are the way to do it. FWIW, this is also one of _my_ pet peeves with FrameMaker . and it is one thing that Word gets right, annoyingly. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
Thanks Rick and Syed. In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the KeySequence definition, or added a Modify command, those two MoveIP commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work, as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to reach for the mouse every damn time. What's frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on us with version 9.0. Sigh... I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it in the past has been an exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one and two hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15 minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was moved to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was that we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to work. Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another day... Thanks for your efforts, guys. Fred Ridder From: r...@rickquatro.com To: syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add these lines: Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using the arrow keys. If you want the target cell selected when you move to it, you may have to substitute one of the other table commands. Here is a list of them: Command MoveIPToCellAtRight Label Move IP To Cell At Right KeySequence \!tmr Definition \xFB1 Command MoveIPToCellAtLeft Label Move IP To Cell At Left KeySequence \!tml Definition \xFB2 Command MoveIPToCellAbove Label Move IP To Cell Above KeySequence \!tmu Definition \xFB3 Command MoveIPUpAndSelectText Label Move IP Up And Select Text KeySequence \!tmua Definition \xFB3 \xFA4 Command MoveIPToCellBelow Label Move IP To Cell Below KeySequence \!tmd Definition \xFB4 Command MoveIPDownAndSelectText Label Move IP Down And Select Text KeySequence \!tmda Definition \xFB4 \xFA4 Command MoveIPToLeftmostCell Label Move IP To Leftmost Cell KeySequence \!tma Definition \xFB5 Command MoveIPToRightmostCell Label Move IP To Rightmost Cell KeySequence \!tme Definition \xFB6 Command MoveIPToNextCell Label Move IP To Next Cell KeySequence \!tmn Definition \xFB7 Command MoveIPToPreviousCell Label Move IP To Previous Cell KeySequence \!tmp Definition \xFB8 Command MoveIPToColumnTop Label Move IP To Column Top KeySequence \!tmt Definition \xFB9 Command MoveIPToColumnBottom Label Move IP To Column Bottom KeySequence \!tmb Definition \xFBA Command MoveIPToTopLeftCell Label Move IP To Top Left Cell KeySequence \!tmT Definition \xFB9 \xFB5 Mode All Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:26 PM To: Alison Craig; Fred Ridder; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables The sequence Escapetmda will move the Insertion Point down one cell and highlight the text in it. The sequence Escapetmd (i.e., without the 'a') is support to just move the Insertion Point down one cell. But it does not seem to work ... :( And, of course, Escapetmua goes up one cell. Again, for some reason unknown to me, Escapetmu does not work ... What I have not been able to figure out is how to tie the arrow keys to this sequence of keystroke when in cells
