At 10:54 -0800 24/2/07, Guy K. Haas wrote:
I see nothing that spells out FrameMaker does not work at all Has anyone
TRIED it and reported this?
I was quoting from page 5 of the document 'How Adobe Products Support Windows
Vista':
Q. Does Adobe FrameMaker 7.2 run on Windows Vista? Does
The issue is that you are interpreting the statement that
FrameMaker 7.2 and earlier do not support Windows Vista
to mean FrameMaker does not work at all. What you
stated was your interpretation, not a direct quote.
If a vendor *knows* that a software combination doesn't
work at all, they will
At 11:00 -0500 25/2/07, Fred Ridder wrote:
What you stated was your interpretation, not a direct quote.
True. But stated immediately above a direct quote, namely:
'Adobe FrameMaker 7.2 and earlier do not support Windows Vista. However, Adobe
currently plans to release the next major version of
FYI.
Hope some of you will find it helpful. Good luck.
Tom Tang wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:24:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Tang
Subject: Fwd: Can you recommend someone for this job: Business Development
Manager at ForeignExchange
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FYI. Hope some of you
Is there anyone on this list who could answer a quick question about doing
video captures on SnagIt? Mine are really blurry and I don't know why or how to
fix it. Please respond to me individually so we don't take up Framers' time
with a SnagIt question.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks!
Karyn
On 24 Feb 2007, at 00:33, Michael Heine wrote:
Blaze sounds interesting (on vapour paper, so far). So, will it do
endnotes, and print 4/C ... ?
I don't know. Ask them. They seem to be a helpful company.
General: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sales: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perhaps we can work out a deal for
I've been lurking on this thread but I have a comment that might throw a
monkey wrench into the conversation.
It seems that sometimes people upgrade just to have the latest and
(hopefully) the greatest version of a sw product, car, music system, etc.
This includes Frame, Vista, and whatever. But
Good Day Diane,
Hope you are doing okay these days. Currently I am racing, both at work
and with our (spouse and my) business.
Unfortunately the situation is not always of the wait a bit situation. The
company where I work supplies several computer systems as software and
hardware controls of
On 21 Feb 2007, at 19:30, Dov Isaacs wrote:
What is true is that Adobe was certainly NOT going to
drop support for Windows in favour of a MacOS X-only
solution or start developing products exclusively for
MacOS X, a strategy that apparently at least some within
Apple would have liked Adobe to
On 21 Feb 2007, at 16:28, Dov Isaacs wrote:
Comparing the Macintosh version of FrameMaker to a Ford
Taurus is not a valid analogy. FrameMaker on Macintosh was
NEVER a best-seller. It was a very small fraction of the
FrameMaker user base, smaller than even Unix, that did not
justify the
On 21 Feb 2007, at 16:28, Dov Isaacs wrote:
Comparing the Macintosh version of FrameMaker to a Ford
Taurus is not a valid analogy. FrameMaker on Macintosh was
NEVER a best-seller. It was a very small fraction of the
FrameMaker user base, smaller than even Unix, that did not
justify the
At 12:58 PM -0800 2/25/07, Diane Gaskill wrote:
It seems that sometimes people upgrade just to have the latest and (hopefully)
the greatest version of a sw product, car, music system, etc. This includes
Frame, Vista, and whatever. But if the new version of a product does not have
a feature I
At 1:25 PM -0800 2/25/07, Denise L. Moss-Fritch wrote:
Currently our products are tested and approved for XP, however that operating
system is becoming harder and harder to obtain. Some of our customers have
reported they have been unable to obtain computers with XP. Certainly by later
this
How was that statement fear, uncertainty, and doubt?
I was stating FACT based on having been involved
personally in or as a direct witness to what was going
on at the time.
- Dov
-Original Message-
From: Paul Findon
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:25 PM
To: Wayne
-Original Message-
From: Paul Findon
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:26 PM
To: Free Framers List; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Chuck Hastings
Subject: Re: Frame's future
On 21 Feb 2007, at 17:28, Dov Isaacs wrote:
There is no reason for me to doubt the veracity
of
Yes, you should put your sarcasm aside.
(1) Even if we assumed that every licensed copy of
FrameMaker Macintosh were to immediately upgrade to a
new MacOS X version of FrameMaker and even if you
grew that number by 50%, the numbers just are not there
to justify the investment.
(2) Your
At 9:29 PM + 2/25/07, Paul Findon wrote:
Adobe could have pushed FrameMaker as a 1st class word processor and cut the
price. Throw in a spreadsheet, a cut-down version of Illustrator, and a
Powerpoint alternative and you have a whole new office platform. With
Microsoft encroaching more and
On 25 Feb 2007, at 22:02, Dov Isaacs wrote:
How was that statement fear, uncertainty, and doubt?
I was stating FACT based on having been involved
personally in or as a direct witness to what was going
on at the time.
Apple is one of Adobe's competitors. Competitors sometimes engage in
the
Paul, et. al.
Paul Findon wrote:
On 25 Feb 2007, at 22:02, Dov Isaacs wrote:
How was that statement fear, uncertainty, and doubt?
I was stating FACT based on having been involved
personally in or as a direct witness to what was going
on at the time.
Apple is one of Adobe's competitors.
With a bit of duct-tape, Excel worksheets, and Python scripts, the
future is now. We use 'out-of-band' index entries to produce
back-of-the-book indexes.
The index is authored separately from the body text, using simple Excel
worksheets as the exchange format, and associated to the body text
At 9:32 PM + 2/25/07, Paul Findon wrote:
There is no law or SEC regulation that stipulates a minimum profitability for
products, and Adobe could have simply raised the price if it really was such a
major draw on expenses.
And the really pathetic irony here is that Frame Technologies first
Eric Dunn wrote:
> Now what exactly is the difference between "hunt and peck" and "drill".
Drilling through a graphical user interface would involve pointing at hot
spots to get to the subsystem of interest, then working from a list of
commonly required process - Servicing, Repair Procedures,
At 10:54 -0800 24/2/07, Guy K. Haas wrote:
>I see nothing that spells out "FrameMaker does not work at all...". Has anyone
>TRIED it and reported this?
I was quoting from page 5 of the document 'How Adobe Products Support Windows
Vista':
>Q. Does Adobe FrameMaker 7.2 run on Windows Vista?
The issue is that you are interpreting the statement that
"FrameMaker 7.2 and earlier do not support Windows Vista"
to mean "FrameMaker does not work at all". What you
stated was your interpretation, not a direct quote.
If a vendor *knows* that a software combination doesn't
work at all, they
At 11:00 -0500 25/2/07, Fred Ridder wrote:
>What you stated was your interpretation, not a direct quote.
True. But stated immediately above a direct quote, namely:
'Adobe FrameMaker 7.2 and earlier do not support Windows Vista. However, Adobe
currently plans to release the next major version
FYI.
Hope some of you will find it helpful. Good luck.
Tom Tang wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:24:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Tang
Subject: Fwd: Can you recommend someone for this job: Business Development
Manager at ForeignExchange
To: sangdyyh at yahoo.com
FYI. Hope some of
Is there anyone on this list who could answer a quick question about doing
video captures on SnagIt? Mine are really blurry and I don't know why or how to
fix it. Please respond to me individually so we don't take up Framers' time
with a SnagIt question.
Karyn_Hunt at Hotmail.com
Thanks!
On 24 Feb 2007, at 00:33, Michael Heine wrote:
> Blaze sounds interesting (on vapour paper, so far). So, will it do
> endnotes, and print 4/C ... ?
I don't know. Ask them. They seem to be a helpful company.
General: info at madcapsoftware.com
Sales: sales at madcapsoftware.com
--
I've been lurking on this thread but I have a comment that might throw a
monkey wrench into the conversation.
It seems that sometimes people upgrade just to have the latest and
(hopefully) the greatest version of a sw product, car, music system, etc.
This includes Frame, Vista, and whatever. But
Good Day Diane,
Hope you are doing okay these days. Currently I am "racing", both at work
and with our (spouse and my) business.
Unfortunately the situation is not always of the "wait a bit" situation. The
company where I work supplies several computer systems as software and
hardware controls
On 21 Feb 2007, at 17:28, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> There is no reason for me to doubt the veracity
> of your claim vis-a-vis the order of appearance
> of FrameMaker on various platforms. However, you or
> I like it or not, rational business decisions are
> made on the basis of current market
On 21 Feb 2007, at 16:28, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> Comparing the Macintosh version of FrameMaker to a Ford
> Taurus is not a valid analogy. FrameMaker on Macintosh was
> NEVER a best-seller. It was a very small fraction of the
> FrameMaker user base, smaller than even Unix, that did not
> justify the
On 21 Feb 2007, at 16:28, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> Comparing the Macintosh version of FrameMaker to a Ford
> Taurus is not a valid analogy. FrameMaker on Macintosh was
> NEVER a best-seller. It was a very small fraction of the
> FrameMaker user base, smaller than even Unix, that did not
> justify the
At 12:58 PM -0800 2/25/07, Diane Gaskill wrote:
>It seems that sometimes people upgrade just to have the latest and (hopefully)
>the greatest version of a sw product, car, music system, etc. This includes
>Frame, Vista, and whatever. But if the new version of a product does not have
>a feature
At 1:25 PM -0800 2/25/07, Denise L. Moss-Fritch wrote:
>Currently our products are tested and approved for XP, however that operating
>system is becoming harder and harder to obtain. Some of our customers have
>reported they have been unable to obtain computers with XP. Certainly by later
>this
How was that statement "fear, uncertainty, and doubt?"
I was stating FACT based on having been involved
personally in or as a direct witness to what was going
on at the time.
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Findon
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:25 PM
> To: Wayne
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Findon
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:26 PM
> To: Free Framers List; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: Chuck Hastings
> Subject: Re: Frame's future
>
> On 21 Feb 2007, at 17:28, Dov Isaacs wrote:
>
> > There is no reason for me to doubt the
Yes, you should put your sarcasm aside.
(1) Even if we assumed that every licensed copy of
FrameMaker Macintosh were to immediately upgrade to a
new MacOS X version of FrameMaker and even if you
grew that number by 50%, the numbers just are not there
to justify the investment.
(2) Your
I gather you do not run a Unix box, but both Mac OSX and Windows come
close enough. I can't help with Mac OSX, but I'm willing to try
compiling those utilities for Cygwin (a *nix environment on top of
Windows) -- if you tell a bit more about what you intend to use it for.
Up-conversion of
On 25 Feb 2007, at 22:02, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> How was that statement "fear, uncertainty, and doubt?"
>
> I was stating FACT based on having been involved
> personally in or as a direct witness to what was going
> on at the time.
Apple is one of Adobe's competitors. Competitors sometimes engage
Paul, et. al.
Paul Findon wrote:
> On 25 Feb 2007, at 22:02, Dov Isaacs wrote:
>
>> How was that statement "fear, uncertainty, and doubt?"
>>
>> I was stating FACT based on having been involved
>> personally in or as a direct witness to what was going
>> on at the time.
>
> Apple is one of
At 9:32 PM + 2/25/07, Paul Findon wrote:
>There is no law or SEC regulation that stipulates a minimum profitability for
>products, and Adobe could have simply raised the price if it really was such a
>major draw on expenses.
And the really pathetic irony here is that Frame Technologies
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