installing Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Dave Reynolds
Hi Folks I'm the first in our team who will install Frame 8 - so I'm the lucky guinea pig who will be testing our templates to see how they behave in the new version. Although I've been keeping a record of bugs and problems reported on the list, I can't find anything about the actual installat

Framers Digest, Vol 30, Issue 2

2008-04-02 Thread John Pilla
Our Co. just went from FM 7 to FM 8. I've had no problems. We have templates and all seem to work. I kept FM 7 on my 'puter, just-in-case. (You might want to keep both FM 7 & FM 8 on for a while, if you think there might be some issues. Older FM 7 files seem to open just fine in FM 8. As far

extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread Gunnar Carlsson
Hi, One client ask me to extract all lines that have any changes (=marked with change bars) to get a rough idea about the amount of text to translate. Anyone has an idea? There are many many pages, so manual mark-copy-paste is not what I would like to do. Regards Gunnar

Moving from Frame 7.1 and Webworks to Adobe Technical Communication Suite

2008-04-02 Thread Jim Owens
Hello, I'm new to this list. A colleague forwarded kimwrites' question about migrating from FM 7.1 / WWP to ACTS. We're contemplating exactly the same migration, for the same reasons, and I've been evaluating ATCS with RH 7.0.1 for the past week. Our aim is to produce a merged context-sensitive

Upgrade to Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Jeff Schweiner
Hi Joyce, I've also experienced this "feature" and have come across a repeatable pattern of failure. Can others try this and report back whether it fails for them also? I'm experiencing problems with dropped characters in text lines. Also, I've noticed the history doesn't seem to log all change

extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread martin.sm...@golehtek.com
Hi Gunnar, This is rather easy to do if you have FrameScript. FrameScript is a powerful and easy-to-use internals programming language for FrameMaker. Using FrameScript you would would do the following: Loop for every chapter in a book: --Loop for every paragraph in a chapter: Inspect each

Upgrade to Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Jim Owens
I just tried this with my trial FM 8.0p273, and it is exactly as you describe. Jeff Schweiner wrote: > I've also experienced this "feature" and have come across a repeatable > pattern of failure. > Can others try this and report back whether it fails for them also? > > I'm experiencing problem

Frame 8 issues

2008-04-02 Thread Fred Wersan
Although I've had Frame 8 since last summer, I've only just now migrated my files to it. I've noticed three things that I don't recall seeing in other people's complaints these last few months. 1. in the graphics Tools palette, the display of the current line thickness and tint is busted. 2. S

extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Is there a way to search for text with a change bar, you could do the same thing with a simple AutoIt script. And AutoIt is free. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson martin.smith at golehtek.com wrote: > Hi Gunnar, > > This is rather easy to do if you have FrameScript. FrameScript is a > powerful and eas

Upgrade to Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
I see the same problem ... quite repeatable. Characters get "eliminated" from the text line following a carriage return (even later entries!). 1. Doing a control-L before the save does NOT show any problems. 2. Starting, saving a file, closing it, and then re-opening the file (no control-L) shows

Upgrade to Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
One additional observation: The previous line where you do the carriage return, has to be shorter than the next line to see the problem. I.e., "12345", , "1234567890" shows the problem, but "1234567890", , "12345" does NOT. Z -

PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks

2008-04-02 Thread Art Campbell
Referenced graphic file would be pretty standard. OLE isn't reliable, and copying the graphic in makes the files too large. Art On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Carole Johnson wrote: > > How do you import them into FrameMaker? Do you link or what! > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com

extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread Jim Owens
Hello, Gunnar. We have a REXX script that processes MIF files to extract only the changebar text. We use it to get a rough word counts for translation. You're welcome to it if you don't find anything else. To run the script you'd need to install a free REXX interpreter (I use Regina). Shmuel W

extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Gunnar: One approach that might work is to use File > Utilities > Document Reports > Word Count to compare the changed documents to their originals. If the originals aren't available, another approach might be to use Find/Replace to replace all change-bar-marked text with nothing, and compare

Error Window in Frame PC

2008-04-02 Thread Art Campbell
In File > Preferences > General, select Show File Translation Errors You may need to reboot FM after you change this, but when you do, the Console window should be available. Art On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Scott White wrote: > Is there a setting to turn on that lets you see errors while im

installing Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Pete Rourke
Mine came with 2 discs, I loaded the PDF Printer (from the 2nd) Following the standard installation, it would be wise to do the updates (at least 2) from the help menu before use. Pete Chandler, AZ -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lis

installing Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Dave: Dave Reynolds wrote: > Hi Folks > > I'm the first in our team who will install Frame 8 - so I'm the lucky > guinea pig who will be testing our templates to see how they behave in > the new version. > > Although I've been keeping a record of bugs and problems reported on the > lis

PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks

2008-04-02 Thread Art Campbell
My expience has been both prone to corruption, and because it's in the OS, able to crash the whole system, not just the application. Embedding graphics by reference works with the linked application just as OLE does -- a PDF opens in Acrobat, an AI or EPS in Illustrator, a PSD in Photoshop, and s

extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread Jim Owens
REXX is a general-purpose interpretive scripting language developed by IBM. They bundled it with OS/2, which is where I picked it up. As scripting languages go, it's not bad. Some of the commands are difficult to remember (if you want to open a file, you CALL STREAM), the syntax is a bit finick

Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Hi, all. In tables that do not "stretch" over the entire page width, table footnotes do not stretch to the page width either. They wrap --- pretty much at the right edge of the rightmost table column. Is there a way to change this? I.e., have the table be relatively narrow and yet have the table

extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread martin.sm...@golehtek.com
The primary difference between FrameScript and other scripting languages is that FrameScript provides direct access to the internals of FrameMaker itself. FrameScript exposes the FrameMaker API (which you can also manipulate by downloading the Frame Developers Kit and programming in C). Fr

installing Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
I have to chime in here. Am 02.04.2008 um 20:23 schrieb Peter Gold: > There have been issues related to FM8's UniCode support. Yes. > One example I > recall is that some Acrobat Bookmarks are garbled by UniCode that > didn't appear in FM 7.x conversions does appear in FM8 conversions. I do not

Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Syed: > In tables that do not "stretch" over the entire page width, table > footnotes do not stretch to the page width either. They wrap --- pretty > much at the right edge of the rightmost table column. > > Is there a way to change this? I.e., have the table be relatively narrow > and ye

Fwd: Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
Sent before complete Hi, Syed: > In tables that do not "stretch" over the entire page width, table > footnotes do not stretch to the page width either. They wrap --- pretty > much at the right edge of the rightmost table column. > > Is there a way to change this? I.e., have the table

Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Thanks! I will give this a shot. Z > -Original Message- > From: knowhowpro at gmail.com [mailto:knowhowpro at gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Peter Gold > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:26 PM > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); framers at > lists.frameusers.com > Subject: F

Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Hi, all. I decided not to try this one from Peter, because I received another suggestion off-line that did exactly what I wanted. Since it was a private communication, I will not identify who it came from, but the idea was very easy to do (in my own words here): Just add another column

Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
I like it, too! Simpler is usually better. Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On undefined, wrote: > Hi, all. > > I decided not to try this one from Peter, because I received another > suggestion off-line that did exactly what I wanted. Since it was a private > communication, I will n

PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks

2008-04-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Boone Severson had some questions for Art: > > Hello Art, > > > > Can you clarify "reliable"? Prone to corruption, crashing, > etc? After years of using FrameMaker's internal drawing tool, > we're going to adopt an external diagramming tool. To keep > the usability the same, we were going to us

PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks

2008-04-02 Thread Carole Johnson
How do you import them into FrameMaker? Do you link or what! "Art Campbell" Sent by: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 03/11/2008 03:47 PM To "Linda G. Gallagher" cc framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject Re: PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks I just ended a year-

PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks

2008-04-02 Thread Boone Severson
Hello Art, Can you clarify "reliable"? Prone to corruption, crashing, etc? After years of using FrameMaker's internal drawing tool, we're going to adopt an external diagramming tool. To keep the usability the same, we were going to use OLE. I've seen the file size grow quite a bit (172k .fm7 fi

Re: Framers Digest, Vol 30, Issue 2

2008-04-02 Thread John Pilla
Our Co. just went from FM 7 to FM 8. I've had no problems. We have templates and all seem to work. I kept FM 7 on my 'puter, just-in-case. (You might want to keep both FM 7 & FM 8 on for a while, if you think there might be some issues. Older FM 7 files seem to open just fine in FM 8. As far

extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread Gunnar Carlsson
Hi, One client ask me to extract all lines that have any changes (=marked with change bars) to get a rough idea about the amount of text to translate. Anyone has an idea? There are many many pages, so manual mark-copy-paste is not what I would like to do. Regards Gunnar __

Moving from Frame 7.1 and Webworks to Adobe Technical Communication Suite

2008-04-02 Thread Jim Owens
Hello, I'm new to this list. A colleague forwarded kimwrites' question about migrating from FM 7.1 / WWP to ACTS. We're contemplating exactly the same migration, for the same reasons, and I've been evaluating ATCS with RH 7.0.1 for the past week. Our aim is to produce a merged context-sensitive

Upgrade to Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Jeff Schweiner
Hi Joyce, I've also experienced this "feature" and have come across a repeatable pattern of failure. Can others try this and report back whether it fails for them also? I'm experiencing problems with dropped characters in text lines. Also, I've noticed the history doesn't seem to log all change

Re: extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread martin . smith
Hi Gunnar, This is rather easy to do if you have FrameScript. FrameScript is a powerful and easy-to-use internals programming language for FrameMaker. Using FrameScript you would would do the following: Loop for every chapter in a book: --Loop for every paragraph in a chapter: Inspect each

Re: Upgrade to Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Jim Owens
I just tried this with my trial FM 8.0p273, and it is exactly as you describe. Jeff Schweiner wrote: > I've also experienced this "feature" and have come across a repeatable > pattern of failure. > Can others try this and report back whether it fails for them also? > > I'm experiencing problem

Frame 8 issues

2008-04-02 Thread Fred Wersan
Although I've had Frame 8 since last summer, I've only just now migrated my files to it. I've noticed three things that I don't recall seeing in other people's complaints these last few months. 1. in the graphics Tools palette, the display of the current line thickness and tint is busted. 2. S

Re: extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Is there a way to search for text with a change bar, you could do the same thing with a simple AutoIt script. And AutoIt is free. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Gunnar, > > This is rather easy to do if you have FrameScript. FrameScript is a > powerful and easy-to-use in

RE: Upgrade to Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Syed.Hosain
I see the same problem ... quite repeatable. Characters get "eliminated" from the text line following a carriage return (even later entries!). 1. Doing a control-L before the save does NOT show any problems. 2. Starting, saving a file, closing it, and then re-opening the file (no control-L) shows

RE: Upgrade to Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Syed.Hosain
One additional observation: The previous line where you do the carriage return, has to be shorter than the next line to see the problem. I.e., "12345", , "1234567890" shows the problem, but "1234567890", , "12345" does NOT. Z -

Re: PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks

2008-04-02 Thread Art Campbell
Referenced graphic file would be pretty standard. OLE isn't reliable, and copying the graphic in makes the files too large. Art On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Carole Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you import them into FrameMaker? Do you link or what! > -- Art Campbell [EMAIL

Re: extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread Jim Owens
Hello, Gunnar. We have a REXX script that processes MIF files to extract only the changebar text. We use it to get a rough word counts for translation. You're welcome to it if you don't find anything else. To run the script you'd need to install a free REXX interpreter (I use Regina). Shmuel W

Re: extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Gunnar: One approach that might work is to use File > Utilities > Document Reports > Word Count to compare the changed documents to their originals. If the originals aren't available, another approach might be to use Find/Replace to replace all change-bar-marked text with nothing, and compare

Re: Error Window in Frame PC

2008-04-02 Thread Art Campbell
In File > Preferences > General, select Show File Translation Errors You may need to reboot FM after you change this, but when you do, the Console window should be available. Art On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Scott White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a setting to turn on that lets you

RE: installing Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Pete Rourke
Mine came with 2 discs, I loaded the PDF Printer (from the 2nd) Following the standard installation, it would be wise to do the updates (at least 2) from the help menu before use. Pete Chandler, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Reyno

Error Window in Frame PC

2008-04-02 Thread Scott White
Is there a setting to turn on that lets you see errors while importing a file into framemaker on the PC? On the MAC I see a window pop up when there is a problem importing a file, but on the PC I do not. I'm trying to trouble shoot a file a client has forwarded me and would like to see if I

Re: installing Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Dave: Dave Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Folks > > I'm the first in our team who will install Frame 8 - so I'm the lucky > guinea pig who will be testing our templates to see how they behave in > the new version. > > Although I've been keeping a record of bugs and problems rep

Re: PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks

2008-04-02 Thread Art Campbell
My expience has been both prone to corruption, and because it's in the OS, able to crash the whole system, not just the application. Embedding graphics by reference works with the linked application just as OLE does -- a PDF opens in Acrobat, an AI or EPS in Illustrator, a PSD in Photoshop, and s

Re: extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread Jim Owens
REXX is a general-purpose interpretive scripting language developed by IBM. They bundled it with OS/2, which is where I picked it up. As scripting languages go, it's not bad. Some of the commands are difficult to remember (if you want to open a file, you CALL STREAM), the syntax is a bit finick

Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread Syed.Hosain
Hi, all. In tables that do not "stretch" over the entire page width, table footnotes do not stretch to the page width either. They wrap --- pretty much at the right edge of the rightmost table column. Is there a way to change this? I.e., have the table be relatively narrow and yet have the table

Re: extract changed texts

2008-04-02 Thread martin . smith
The primary difference between FrameScript and other scripting languages is that FrameScript provides direct access to the internals of FrameMaker itself. FrameScript exposes the FrameMaker API (which you can also manipulate by downloading the Frame Developers Kit and programming in C). Fr

Re: installing Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
I have to chime in here. Am 02.04.2008 um 20:23 schrieb Peter Gold: > There have been issues related to FM8's UniCode support. Yes. > One example I > recall is that some Acrobat Bookmarks are garbled by UniCode that > didn't appear in FM 7.x conversions does appear in FM8 conversions. I do not

Re: Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Syed: > In tables that do not "stretch" over the entire page width, table > footnotes do not stretch to the page width either. They wrap --- pretty > much at the right edge of the rightmost table column. > > Is there a way to change this? I.e., have the table be relatively narrow > and ye

Re: installing Frame 8

2008-04-02 Thread Dave Reynolds
Thanks to those who have replied. It might have seemed like an odd question, now that I know there are 2 discs. However, we've bought some sort of corporate licence and all I have is an exe file that our IT people have provided - I assume they have downloaded it. I will see if I can get hold

Fwd: Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
Sent before complete Hi, Syed: > In tables that do not "stretch" over the entire page width, table > footnotes do not stretch to the page width either. They wrap --- pretty > much at the right edge of the rightmost table column. > > Is there a way to change this? I.e., have the table

RE: Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread Syed.Hosain
Thanks! I will give this a shot. Z > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Gold > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:26 PM > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Fwd: Stretching a table footno

RE: Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread Syed.Hosain
Hi, all. I decided not to try this one from Peter, because I received another suggestion off-line that did exactly what I wanted. Since it was a private communication, I will not identify who it came from, but the idea was very easy to do (in my own words here): Just add another column

Re: Stretching a table footnote to the column width ...

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Gold
I like it, too! Simpler is usually better. Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On undefined, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, all. > > I decided not to try this one from Peter, because I received another > suggestion off-line that did exactly what I wanted. Since it was a private > comm

RE: PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks

2008-04-02 Thread Combs, Richard
Boone Severson had some questions for Art: > > Hello Art, > > > > Can you clarify "reliable"? Prone to corruption, crashing, > etc? After years of using FrameMaker's internal drawing tool, > we're going to adopt an external diagramming tool. To keep > the usability the same, we were going to us